Stay with Nougat vs Go on with Oreo? - Huawei Mate 9 Pro Questions & Answers

Hello fellow Mate 9 Pro users,
I have just received an update notification that my Mate 9 Pro is ready for Oreo (with EMUI 8).
There is only one thing that's holding me back; I'm afraid that the update will give me performance hit.
Currently I'm still fine with Nougat, everything is smooth and zero issue.
For some of you who have updated, do you regret or happy?
Do you experience any lag that was not present in Nougat?
I want to hear from you.
Thanks.

I'm on c636, Oreo update is there but still not approved for my phone.
The only way your really going to find out if there's any lag that your satisfied or not satisfied with is by updating and seeing for yourself I guess and you should be safe because there are rollback packages. Just make sure your region is compatible with the rollback. If there are no roll backs ( I haven't checked ) for your region then sit tight.
Personally I like to wait quite a long time before I update because when I do update I know that what I'm updating with has as many bugs or issues ironed out as possible. I only updated my mate 8 to nougat a few days ago. It's pretty much tip top.
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48385858490 said:
Hello fellow Mate 9 Pro users,
I have just received an update notification that my Mate 9 Pro is ready for Oreo (with EMUI 8).
There is only one thing that's holding me back; I'm afraid that the update will give me performance hit.
Currently I'm still fine with Nougat, everything is smooth and zero issue.
For some of you who have updated, do you regret or happy?
Do you experience any lag that was not present in Nougat?
I want to hear from you.
Thanks.
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Mine has got better battery life and performance with nougat.
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HellRoot said:
Mine has got better battery life and performance with nougat.
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how many days have passed since you updated? did it had time to settle? a few discharge recharge cycles? did you do a factory reset after the update?

lev04 said:
how many days have passed since you updated? did it had time to settle? a few discharge recharge cycles? did you do a factory reset after the update?
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I was in the beta project so it is over a month or two. I did not factory reset. It is great, I only face one bug with my business calendar widget not updating.
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Should Huawei Skip Lollipop alltogether and focus instead on Marshmallow ?

So what do you think ?
I think they should not waste any more time in Lollipop.
Its september 1 , they did not release as they told us.We are becoming mate 2 users they are waiting 2 yrs for update.I think mate 7 will stay on kitkat, if we get 5.1.1 that will be last update for sure just my opinion
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Right now im on closed beta 5.1.1 B320 ( its for chinese Mate 7 only), its good and stable enough for daily use, i think Huawei will release the final build soon, be patient
gunlock4real said:
Right now im on closed beta 5.1.1 B320 ( its for chinese Mate 7 only), its good and stable enough for daily use, i think Huawei will release the final build soon, be patient
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Soon??? What about soon?? 1 year...2 year...3 year???? Hihihihihi
B-143 is working v.stable for me.
KitKat to lollipop is a big jump, but tbh I don't really see big hype or changes at the back end to really have much end user impact and tbh sometimes I wonder with all the OEM mutations, how much of optimisations really carry over.
1.IMO the big MM feature is more optimised deep sleep, frankly alot of that is already built into the current build or you could always use greenify.
2. Current build already reports mAH consumption, another feature being cooked in MM.
3. Material skin: download lollipop theme, use nova launcher, use ex dialer, Google keyboard, messenger and you're not that far away.
Hopefully Huawei nexus has the same amazing battery life and hopefully we could steal the fingerprint scanner drivers and hope they work on the one we got. It works amazing right now.
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Hopefully Huawei nexus has the same amazing battery life and hopefully we could steal the fingerprint scanner drivers and hope they work on the one we got. It works amazing right now.
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Bingo. I was thinking exactly the same thing this morning on the way to work. We'll have to see how close the Nexus comes to our beloved decives, but I'd love to see a port of the Nexus firmware for the Mate 7.
blackinfinity said:
So what do you think ?
I think they should not waste any more time in Lollipop.
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Try B317.. seems to be cool..
With apex launcher yes
blackinfinity said:
With apex launcher yes
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What? Never used that..no need..
XDADEVX said:
What? Never used that..no need..
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ever since I did install I have shut up about lollipop I simply do not care any more, Apex gives the speed I did want from day 1.
No more frustrating slow animations that looks like crap..apps open faster with apex for sure...
It felt like an cpu/gpu upgrade for sure..
what a silly question, if they're not bothering with pushing out lollipop, what makes you think they'll even consider pushing out M to the mate7?
Because they did that with mate 2. They skiped kitkat for lolipop
Why would they skip something they are currently (and have already currently) spent money and work hours on aka. Lollipop for another Android version that isn't even officially released? On top of that, the Ascend mate 7 will soon be replaced for a newer Huawei phone.
blackinfinity said:
ever since I did install I have shut up about lollipop I simply do not care any more, Apex gives the speed I did want from day 1.
No more frustrating slow animations that looks like crap..apps open faster with apex for sure...
It felt like an cpu/gpu upgrade for sure..
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Set all animation speeds in developer options to 0,5 and the stock launcher will work faster

EMUI 5 (update and downgrade) for Chinese Honor 8

Open Hicare and click on update, apply and go to settings and open updater.
To downgrade: Install HiSuite in Pc. Downgrade through pc.
Nice someone have any ideea when this will come for FRD-L09 too ?
Sheldd said:
Nice someone have any ideea when this will come for FRD-L09 too ?
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February
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shook187 said:
February
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Have u checked with Huawei firmware finder ?
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Honor said so, I've seen in an article on GSMarena
dinoypeter said:
Open Hicare and click on update, apply and go to settings and open updater.
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Thanks for the tip. I just upgraded it yesterday :
supamike said:
Thanks for the tip. I just upgraded it yesterday :
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How it's treating you?!
CronaMell said:
How it's treating you?!
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Quite well for the moment, I am pretty happy with it, I didn't have any big issue yet
supamike said:
Quite well for the moment, I am pretty happy with it, I didn't have any big issue yet
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:good:
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:good:
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My first observations after upgrade:
- system is smooth and fast, but the fact is that it was such before upgrade as well;
- smart battery saving leave you less options as before; you can't use it with screen off time adjustment any more; my impression is that with no battery saving you achieve less uptime than before and with smart battery the same as before but with more restrictions;
- overall color specter moved toward blue and a lot of white; light color letters on white background are sometimes difficult to read;
- safetynet (indicator of secure applications like Android Pay and Pokemon) fails wit the last upgrade; it passed with MM and first N upgrade 336;
- still no trace of wifi calling.
Camera is subject to more deep and demanding analyze which may follow latter.
Overall I'll be glad to get safetynet back and wifi calling sometimes soon.
piskr said:
My first observations after upgrade:
- system is smooth and fast, but the fact is that it was such before upgrade as well;
- smart battery saving leave you less options as before; you can't use it with screen off time adjustment any more; my impression is that with no battery saving you achieve less uptime than before and with smart battery the same as before but with more restrictions;
- overall color specter moved toward blue and a lot of white; light color letters on white background are sometimes difficult to read;
- safetynet (indicator of secure applications like Android Pay and Pokemon) fails wit the last upgrade; it passed with MM and first N upgrade 336;
- still no trace of wifi calling.
Camera is subject to more deep and demanding analyze which may follow latter.
Overall I'll be glad to get safetynet back and wifi calling sometimes soon.
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That's comprehensive, thanks
Perfect, bit I think I have no look, so for my al10 there is any another way to get thi b356 update?
Iaa85 from Brazil with Honor 8
iaa85 said:
Perfect, bit I think I have no look, so for my al10 there is any another way to get thi b356 update?
Iaa85 from Brazil with Honor 8
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other guy had al10, he did what i did, u have to be on the latest software, and then register on hicare
I also upgraded to 5.0 and then I did a factory reset to set all from the beginning...It seems to me that battery runs out a bit faster (first thoughts) and I agree with all written before this post....
I fell in love with new quick tools panel quickly, so dont feel about downgrading so far))
I will wait till our russian coleagues make up a clean EMUI 5.0 (without bloat and perhaps with some customizations) as they did for 4.1 (author: greatslon at 4pda)
Or maybe our honor devs will give us some cure in new builds...
Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
supamike said:
Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
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It says something like:
This update optimizes the system and stability and makes the phone run more smooth. It repairs Taobao app text dialog box on order to prevent blocking input method. It also repairs the problem that call recording can’t add the specific contact. Further, the problems that outgoing call can’t be placed and phone can’t be connected to WIFI are fixed as well. Removed error that Talkback can’t be used. Fixed HuaweiShare autolaunch after WIFI download rate is reduced. Fixed issues with 123006?? and banking (shopping??) apps like Taobao. Power consumption is optimized in order to extend battery life. Screen brightness parameters optimization.
The translate is result of mutual efforts of me and GoogleTranslate and it is far from perfect.
My first impressions after update:
The system is stable and ready for the transition from beta to the production version. It is responsive, smooth and fast. No substantial deficiencies could be detected. There are still some glitches that should be improved though:
1. In order to make the outlook white as a snow (combined with sea blue) the producer made some application text hard to read (white on the bright)
2. Using the power saving mode gives you insane 6 hours of SOT. But the mode fixes screen on when passive to 30 secs time and it can't be adjusted. What could be really annoying in some situations. I would have easily sacrificed 1 hour of SOT if I had option to turn off the screen manually.
3. SafetyNet (connected with payment and other safety apps) fails after every upgrade. Thankfully so far I had it back in a few days and I hope that it will happen this time too. I think that the failure is connected to beta status of the upgrade: Google might consider upgrade as a test version of the system (safe applications don't work on the rooted phone, custom recovery, unlocked bootloader or test versions of the system). I don't understand the mechanism on which the functionality suddenly returns: is it by Huawei's intervention, Google app upgrade or simply recognizing the upgrade as real, not test version.
Finally, there is an improved custom ROM for AL10 and AL00 (HRT-Kangvip) if someone with rooted phone wanna try: http://club.huawei.com/thread-11821416-1-1.html (use GoogleTranslate).
binuralka said:
I also upgraded to 5.0 and then I did a factory reset to set all from the beginning...It seems to me that battery runs out a bit faster (first thoughts) and I agree with all written before this post....
I fell in love with new quick tools panel quickly, so dont feel about downgrading so far))
I will wait till our russian coleagues make up a clean EMUI 5.0 (without bloat and perhaps with some customizations) as they did for 4.1 (author: greatslon at 4pda)
Or maybe our honor devs will give us some cure in new builds...
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It will come shortly. Maybe this month.
supamike said:
Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
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next time use google translate app to translate text in pictures. battery is better on this update as well as performance. i aslo noticed that the camera takes better photos in nougat as compared to 6.0
supamike said:
Got a new upgrade yesterday, the version B368.
This time the change log is in Chinese so I have no idea what it is about. At least it still works fine, no complain so far
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Where r u based mate.
I have read that were getting out update sooner rather than later
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johnhux7 said:
Where r u based mate.
I have read that were getting out update sooner rather than later
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I am in China, I already got 3 updates since I bought it (3 weeks ago).
That's why I can't really compare with marshmallow as I didn't use it much.
I just found out they still didn't fix the bug when we use the fingerprint to slide photos in the gallery. It works but it's not as smooth as before.

Thinking of buying this phone but...

I have checked this phone in two different stores in retail mode. Both phones presented a weird slowness when coming back from an app to the home screen. Not always but sometimes. It took 2-3 seconds to load the home screen and icons. It was very weird from an otherwise snappy phone. Have any of you experienced this?
I have never experienced it. Own it for 5 months now. Lightning fast.
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Governa said:
I have never experienced it. Own it for 5 months now. Lightning fast.
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I second this. Hardware is top notch including the display. All the bells and whistles included.
Can you buy from somewhere you can return if not happy.
Slow has never been associated with the Mate 9. Software design is their main issue nowadays. They change/remove things without any real reason. Getting better with every version.
Lag, Stutter, freezing. Definitely NOT an issue with this phone. Best phone out. Buy it.
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holopainen said:
I have checked this phone in two different stores in retail mode. Both phones presented a weird slowness when coming back from an app to the home screen. Not always but sometimes. It took 2-3 seconds to load the home screen and icons. It was very weird from an otherwise snappy phone. Have any of you experienced this?
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I would go for the one plus 3t software updates are gonna be a pain on this mate 9 already regret the purchase. Software always over hardware.
possible demo mode?
i agree software is going to be a pain, but this phone is amazing out of the box.
a little tweaking and youd never have to worry about updates...just the dev of this phone is going to be really slow until huawei release binaries...
virtyx said:
possible demo mode?
i agree software is going to be a pain, but this phone is amazing out of the box.
a little tweaking and youd never have to worry about updates...just the dev of this phone is going to be really slow until huawei release binaries...
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Yeah but who likes sticking to an old version of android? Sorry new updates = security patches and overall a better experience with new features. I could not see myself recommending this phone to anyone on xda, maybe other people who do not care about updates and development.
Jaimesco12 said:
Yeah but who likes sticking to an old version of android? Sorry new updates = security patches and overall a better experience with new features. I could not see myself recommending this phone to anyone on xda, maybe other people who do not care about updates and development.
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I've came from Nexus 6p, OP3T knowing there wouldn't be much development as those phones had. But I would say this phones​ software isn't that bad, or as heavy as Samesung or LG. Ive rooted and returned back to stock which I am using now on the US version. It's an amazing phone as is and the camera blows out the OP3T and screen size is a must. I hate little phones​ (personal preference I know) so yeah the Nexus and OP do have the development communities but for the price and how well the phone is made and the smoothness of which the processor handles the work load it is definitely a great phone.
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It was probably running an early build. My Mate 9 has had 3 updates since I got it. No lag whatsoever.
Same here, no lag in any situation. Buttery smooth. Though I got rid of the stock launcher as soon as possible.
I get it sometimes. Coming out of an app and the screen will be blank for a couple of seconds (just the wallpaper) then the apps appear
Lag is normal on my 156 fw. No double tap to wake up. And other things. But one is fine battery.
No issues here. Smoothest phone I have ever had.
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Never had a glitch, 4th month in.

How's the performance after a year?

Guys I'm considering buying Honor 8 and I want to know how long you've been using this phone and have you experienced any lags/crashes/slow-downs on stock firmware during this time? Thanks!
Buy the Honor 8 Pro instead as you will get Oreo guaranteed. I have had the 8 for 13 months now and didn't like Nougat till B394 update due to the **** battery life. I stuck to MM till B394 where on heavy usage too I could easily get 5 hours of screen on time.
There hasn't been any noticeable slowdown or such. The phone still runs smoothly.
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Buy the Honor 8 Pro instead as you will get Oreo guaranteed. I have had the 8 for 13 months now and didn't like Nougat till B394 update due to the **** battery life. I stuck to MM till B394 where on heavy usage too I could easily get 5 hours of screen on time.
There hasn't been any noticeable slowdown or such. The phone still runs smoothly.
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Thanks. Have you used Honor/Huawei phones before and how have they held up over time? I have a 5X that was slow and laggy on stock (EMUI 4 sucks) and didn't improve much even with custom roms (all Nougat roms become unusable after few weeks, CM13 is better but hangs randomly).
I bought this phone last December. I've taken every update and I have yet to be the least bit disappointed in this phone. It has been a fantastic device. I would but it again in a heartbeat for the right price.
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I bought this phone last December. I've taken every update and I have yet to be the least bit disappointed in this phone. It has been a fantastic device. I would but it again in a heartbeat for the right price.
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Good to know! Are you on stock?
The Honor 8 has been great since I bought it in September 2016. the battery took a hit with 7.0 though. I feel its time to move on, but i can't find anything to replace it TBH. I've got a mate 10 Pro which is nice, but it doesn't feel like spending £700 will make THAT much of a different experience to the H8.
It is a really good device. From February the antutu benchmark has dropped a lot but the performance is exactly the same as always, no lags with max graphics on hard to run 3d games. Has held up pretty well.
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It is a really good device. From February the antutu benchmark has dropped a lot but the performance is exactly the same as always, no lags with max graphics on hard to run 3d games. Has held up pretty well.
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Why has the benchmark score dropped?
mwatson said:
The Honor 8 has been great since I bought it in September 2016. the battery took a hit with 7.0 though. I feel its time to move on, but i can't find anything to replace it TBH. I've got a mate 10 Pro which is nice, but it doesn't feel like spending £700 will make THAT much of a different experience to the H8.
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Thanks. What's your battery life like with the latest update?
hsanjay19 said:
Why has the benchmark score dropped?
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I guess it happens with every phone. The performance in use hasn't dropped at all however, so it is just fine.
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Thanks. What's your battery life like with the latest update?
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I'm still on B384 from September. Battery still not great.
mwatson said:
I'm still on B384 from September. Battery still not great.
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Thanks. You didn't receive B394? How much SOT are you usually getting?
hsanjay19 said:
Thanks. You didn't receive B394? How much SOT are you usually getting?
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With Facebook , Messenger, WhatsApp, telegram, YouTube, browser (Samsung), and a little bit game (Marvel contest of Champion ) 5.30h or 6h max. With also maps....... 4h or less
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Don't buy anything Huawei or honor phone because the are so bat at support and update , if I were you I would buy a OnePlus 3T or a galaxy s7/edge
or any other phone because they are cheaper and better than the honor 8 and and any Huawei/honor phones.
Silvio92 said:
With Facebook , Messenger, WhatsApp, telegram, YouTube, browser (Samsung), and a little bit game (Marvel contest of Champion ) 5.30h or 6h max. With also maps....... 4h or less
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sorry, i'm on 394 with August security patch. 2:30 ave SOT?
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sorry, i'm on 394 with August security patch. 2:30 ave SOT?
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Whoa that's pretty bad. I feel sorry for you. Could it be that your battery has gone bad? Still not acceptable.
By the way, is gyroscope working for you guys?
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By the way, is gyroscope working for you guys?
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Yes with Vr
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sorry, i'm on 394 with August security patch. 2:30 ave SOT?
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Idem but I dont do 2.30h o.o
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It's ****ing great .... Still managed to get done what I need ... no lag
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It's ****ing great .... Still managed to get done what I need ... no lag
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Cool! How long have you had the phone and are you taking any battery-saving measures?

How to BLOCK update to Oreo

I keep reading horror stories about what happens when an S8 is "upgraded" to Oreo. I'm REALLY afraid of what would happen to my phone. How can I BLOCK the update?
Well, I've set the "update" to occur between 2 am and 5 am. I leave the phone off during that time. Keeping my fingers crossed that the update won't happen.
Horror? Just update the damn phone man.. i love my oreo update!
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Horror? Just update the damn phone man.. i love my oreo update!
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I don't see ANY love for Oreo expressed here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/oreo-battery-life-t3749459
That's horrible.
If you don't like it you can always go back to nougat if you want..
You can't keep avoiding it forever.. no more updates.. no new features.. no security patches..
The features don't impress me. What's the difference between obtaining updates based on not getting oreo at all vs. reverting back to nougat? BTW, you didn't say if you've had any battery issues with Oreo.
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The features don't impress me. What's the difference between obtaining updates based on not getting oreo at all vs. reverting back to nougat? BTW, you didn't say if you've had any battery issues with Oreo.
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I don't have any issues.. it's the same as with nougat so..
Can confirm, having no issues at all with oreo, neither with battery nor anything other. I really don't understand why everyone hates oreo. But I also have to admit i'm on Renovate ICE and not stock.
if you stop oreo update, the notification of update will be always displayed and very annoying. even i am unsatisfacted by oreo, more lags, battery drain more and partial incompatibility with whatsapp (even confirmed by whatsapp team)... but the persistent notification update constricred me to update. it's true that can downgrade to nougat, but the same problem will be represented....
Well, the update was forced on me this morning. I'm keeping an eye on battery life.
Ok, so I've had Oreo for a day, and I have to say that I'm not seeing any noticeable problem with battery life. So it looks like there was no reason for my angst. I wonder why other people have such problems?

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