So I understand at this point that the P580 has not just a pen included but also has a layer under the screen to make it work with the S-pen. I'm wondering if I could buy a bluetooth pen and if it would work with the tablet, and how different the performance would be.
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So I understand at this point that the P580 has not just a pen included but also has a layer under the screen to make it work with the S-pen. I'm wondering if I could buy a bluetooth pen and if it would work with the tablet, and how different the performance would be.
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Need the make and model of what you are calling a "bluetooth pen" before that question can be answered. If you are asking if there are Pens, other than the ones from Samsung, that will work with the P580, then the answer is yes. If you are asking if there are Pens that will will work with a T580 with the fine lines of an S-Pen, then I've never heard of one other than experimental attempts.
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Need the make and model of what you are calling a "bluetooth pen" before that question can be answered. If you are asking if there are Pens, other than the ones from Samsung, that will work with the P580, then the answer is yes. If you are asking if there are Pens that will will work with a T580 with the fine lines of an S-Pen, then I've never heard of one other than experimental attempts.
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I've just been looking around for a decent tablet and stylus combination that I could use to take notes, all the good ones I've seen are really expensive unless I just want to go the non pressure sensitive route and use a capacitive stylus with any tablet. I haven't bought anything so I don't have an exact pen I'm asking about. Are S-Pens really that good? I've never really used one let allowed compared it to a regular capacitive stylus.
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I've just been looking around for a decent tablet and stylus combination that I could use to take notes, all the good ones I've seen are really expensive unless I just want to go the non pressure sensitive route and use a capacitive stylus with any tablet. I haven't bought anything so I don't have an exact pen I'm asking about. Are S-Pens really that good? I've never really used one let allowed compared it to a regular capacitive stylus.
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Any new tablet with a Smart Pen, one that write with a line like a ballpoint pen, is going to be several hundred dollars. But you can get a used P580 on eBay for about $200. Or you can get a Galaxy Note 2014 10.1", which was originally about a $600 tablet, for under a $150. Any model Galaxy Note, is going to have an S-Pen.
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Seidio 3 in 1 pen stylus for Tilt/Kaiser/TyTN II/8925 available
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=883
Its funny what their third "feature" is.
It is a three in one:
-Stylus
-Pen
-Phone resetter!!! LOL I guess we need a special tool to stick into the bottom of your device to reset it. Didn't know a stylus itself wouldn't do that lol
I bought these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/For-ATT-8925-Ti...oryZ3311QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I bought these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/For-ATT-8925-Ti...oryZ3311QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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excellent find, thank you
I've always had success with seidio products. I'm wary of buying a "cheaper" solution because I've heard plenty of stories of leaky pens...
Are there any actual sized pen's that can be used as a stylus too?
I use a pen a work and school a lot and I don't want to keep putting down my pen and picking up my stylus and vise versa.
The ones on ebay seem to small. I need to write a lot so I would prefer like a pen size.
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I've always had success with seidio products. I'm wary of buying a "cheaper" solution because I've heard plenty of stories of leaky pens...
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Seidio Pens are good at leaking too trust me.
Plus you can not get more than a sentence or two before it runs "out of ink" for a few minutes..
DVS_WiNdz said:
Are there any actual sized pen's that can be used as a stylus too?
I use a pen a work and school a lot and I don't want to keep putting down my pen and picking up my stylus and vise versa.
The ones on ebay seem to small. I need to write a lot so I would prefer like a pen size.
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Sure, there are lots of them. One place to start, just to give you an idea, would be Stylus Central:
http://www.styluscentral.com/index.html
Their pages about 2, 3 and 4 Point Multi Pens would have some pen/stylus combos.
I've been through many multi pens and the one I'm using right now is the Cross Matrix. I didn't see it on Stylus Central anymore and I think Cross has stopped producing it (though the refills are still made.) It is, however, available on ebay. In my experience it has the smoothest Stylus point I've used.
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Plus you can not get more than a sentence or two before it runs "out of ink" for a few minutes..
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I've gone through 6 cheap pens so far. They run out of ink way too fast, and always at a bad time.
Does anyone know of one that lasts like a regular pen?
BE CAREFUL with all in one pens from anyone. The Kaiser gets very hot and will make any sealed ball point pen leak. I have tried a few and every one of them burst.
My friend has a Kaiser also and the same issue happened to him.
There is nothing you can do to keep a sealed hot ball point pen form leaking... END OF STORY!
I recently bought a target stylus at Best Buy for 20$ and didn't find it to be as good as I thought it would be.
I was doing some research and I stumbled across this bluetooth stylus for the galaxy tab...
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-bluetooth-stylus-29-09-2010/
Does anyone know if this would work with our a500?
Anyone have thoughts?
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Anyone have thoughts?
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Did not find the specs, you want one for capacitive screen.
the stylus is capacitive, but there are sensors om the pen as well, transmitting data via bluetooth. This is why I want to know if it works, anyone can test this?
Pretty sure you'd need some driver or other software on the tab to understand the data coming from the stylus...
could I copy the drivers from the galaxy tab? I'm no dev but I think what I want to do is possible
Sure, if you can identify what the correct files are. You'll probably need some kind of IME from the tab, too.
I wouldn't have to edit a driver? Hmmmm like I said, I'm no dev but I'm good at copy and paste! Lol
I honestly don't know. You could always try one of the custom ROM's based on the tab...
We have a rom based on the tab?? Can you point me to it?
It's in the dev section. It's quite old though, might even still be a 3.0.1 version ROM...
Sweet... Thanks for the heads up. I also realized that I do not have a samsung galaxy stylus laying around lol.....
Anybody know of anybody else with a samsung galaxy stylus wanting to help me find out if this works??
This is just a stylus with a built-in Bluetooth handsfree or vice-versa if you so prefer. So Bluetooth technology in this accessory has nothing to do with character recognition, it's just for answering calls. So don't bother.
Anyway, Samsung never released it. They have released a Bluetooth-less version.
Sucks. I figured that out haha. Hmmmmm. I'm still seeking an inexpensive way to find decent handwriting via a stylus on my a500.... Any suggestions.
I'm on that quest too. Nothing good so far... iPad has much better options. uPad, for instance... I mean, software. As fow hardware, I was using a plain $3 rubber-tip stylus with a built-in ballpoint pen from China.
What about using the SAMSUNG Galaxy Note Stylus Touch S stylus with the Pen Holder Kit?
The Galaxy Note S Pen Stylus can only be used on a Galaxy Note and, perhaps, on an HTC Flyer. The tablet has to have certain touch screen hardware to be able to recognize input from such styli.
That's a pity. All the other stylii I've found or seen have to wide a tip for me to use drawing & writing apps.
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That's a pity. All the other stylii I've found or seen have to wide a tip for me to use drawing & writing apps.
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I have used the bamboo stylus, alupen and a cheapo kensignton sylus I picked up at Staples (Can with a crappy pen on the other side too!)
All three are great for taking notes and such on the tablet.
I think the Bamboo has the smallest tip if you need the finer point.
So I ordered my 16gb Note 10.1 last week and went and picked it up yesterday afternoon. I opened the box at the store to check the "body" of the device to make sure it wasn't split along the sides and no odd creaking or anything. Everything looked good.
I get it home and discover that there's no S-Pen. It's not in the box, not in the back of the device, nowhere to be found.
The unit shipped directly from Samsung. I called the store and they said I could return it, and they'd order another one if I wanted or I could have my money back. The other option was that I could call Samsung directly and give them the low down and have them send me another S-Pen.
I chose to call Samsung and they apologized and said they'd send out an S-Pen right away. Sounds good, except that it's going to take 7 - 14 working days to arrive! Really?!?!?!
I specifically bought the Note 10.1 FOR the S-Pen and note taking capabilities. I am involved with multiple activities (my job included) that require me to take notes. This is a significant problem for me.
Yes, I know I can just buy a stylus and wait it out but it irritates me that the unit got shipped without one of the "selling-points" of the product. I understand they can't QA every single unit but come on, a CORE part of the device not being included? Really?!
Okay, I'm done ranting now.
I really like the unit and I'm sure I'll enjoy it, ONCE I get the S-Pen!
Buzz
You are missing the whole thing. lol it is all about the S-Pen.
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So I ordered my 16gb Note 10.1 last week and went and picked it up yesterday afternoon. I opened the box at the store to check the "body" of the device to make sure it wasn't split along the sides and no odd creaking or anything. Everything looked good.
I get it home and discover that there's no S-Pen. It's not in the box, not in the back of the device, nowhere to be found.
The unit shipped directly from Samsung. I called the store and they said I could return it, and they'd order another one if I wanted or I could have my money back. The other option was that I could call Samsung directly and give them the low down and have them send me another S-Pen.
I chose to call Samsung and they apologized and said they'd send out an S-Pen right away. Sounds good, except that it's going to take 7 - 14 working days to arrive! Really?!?!?!
I specifically bought the Note 10.1 FOR the S-Pen and note taking capabilities. I am involved with multiple activities (my job included) that require me to take notes. This is a significant problem for me.
Yes, I know I can just buy a stylus and wait it out but it irritates me that the unit got shipped without one of the "selling-points" of the product. I understand they can't QA every single unit but come on, a CORE part of the device not being included? Really?!
Okay, I'm done ranting now.
I really like the unit and I'm sure I'll enjoy it, ONCE I get the S-Pen!
Buzz
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So I'm curious. If your job and activities require all this what we're you doing before you got your note? Under performing?
Not saying it's not messed up you didn't get a pen, but if you've been doing your all your job functions and activities for X time before you had a note I'm sure you'll survive another 5-7 days.
I got a note that when I pulled the pen out the little plastic tension piece inside the slot came out and then the pen would fall out if it was in the holder. Shoulda made Samsung ship it overnight.
Well THAT would irritate me too, since it´s not a 299.- $ device.
Even if they sell 20 million devices no single one with faults should pass QC.
I bought 1 SII, two SIII, 1 Note, 2 Note 10.1´s and they came all PERFECT, no broken seals, no creaking, no scratches, mechanically and by the hardware in perfect function and no faults by the software (never ever had one single firmware related crash or update probs out of the box with no single Sammy device)
In mobile electronics a defect rate of 5% or below is considered outstanding performance. The missing S-Pen is bad QC as it obviously shouldn't have shipped without it. But to put it in perspective, Samsung's sold 30MM SGS3's so it would be excellent if no more than 1.5MM had a defect. Someone who got one of the 1.5MM probably would disagree.
Is it a HUGE deal? No. Is it going to prevent me from doing my job? No. I can use pen & paper like I've been doing or I can go buy a 3rd party stylus. It's more of a convenience thing AND the fact that it SHOULD have been packaged with it. By my counting on / planning on / looking forward to being able to use the device, it just made it more of an irritation.
I completely agree that 5% being "jacked up" (hardware, software, defects, missing parts, etc) is acceptable. It would have just been better if someone else experienced the 5%.
As for Samsung products in general, never had an issue with them before. Home theater equipment, cell phones, etc.
Sorry, you're within the 5%.
The opinion that Samsung is solid in all their mobile devices is not correct at all. I also have a Samsung 7 Series slate and this thing came with its screen lifted big time as soon as I took it from the box. Getting it fixed by them was a [email protected], and this was not an isolated case. If you go to TabletPCReview.com, you'll notice that around 35% of all these slates came with the screen defected. I was in that big margin.
Being inside an even smaller margin should feel really crappy...
Now, for a solution, these tablets work with any WACOM pen, so if you have one for any other tablet or convertible then that should work flawlessly. It will no feel as nice as the one that comes with the tablet (as this one has a rubber tip and all others I know come with a hard one) but it should work the same way.
Ron
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Now, for a solution, these tablets work with any WACOM pen
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There's another solution. Many Best Buy stores stock the replacment pen. You can buy one there and keep it as a spare or return it when your missing one arrives.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...p03-14?id=1218734648372&skuId=6329995&st=note 10.1 stylus&cp=1&lp=1
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Now, for a solution, these tablets work with any WACOM pen, so if you have one for any other tablet or convertible then that should work flawlessly. It will no feel as nice as the one that comes with the tablet (as this one has a rubber tip and all others I know come with a hard one) but it should work the same way.
Ron
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That is incorrect. There may be some Wacom pens which work with the GNote 10.1 but not all. I have an Intuos 3 and the pen for it will not work on my GNote 10.1 it has no effect what so ever. With that said you can use your finger. It is surprising how presice you can be on the GNote 10.1 with your finger.
Yeah, if there was a big hole on the bottom right of my tablet where the s-pen is stored, I'd be annoyed too.
sadly, it's all academic now... my kayscase flip case really doesn't allow me to get to it, muchless see it.
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That is incorrect. There may be some Wacom pens which work with the GNote 10.1 but not all. I have an Intuos 3 and the pen for it will not work on my GNote 10.1 it has no effect what so ever. With that said you can use your finger. It is surprising how presice you can be on the GNote 10.1 with your finger.
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I've heard indeed of some intuos and bamboo series pens not working on WACOM enabled screens. But I was referring to those that come with other tablets or convertible PCs. I've heard around that the intuos 5 pens work. I have a lil babmoo touch tablet and it doesn't work at all too.
In my last two weeks of ownership I've probably only used the pen less than 10 minutes and still love the tablet!
troed said:
well that would irritate me too, since it´s not a 299.- $ device.
Even if they sell 20 million devices no single one with faults should pass qc.
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what faults?
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Even if they sell 20 million devices no single one with faults should pass QC.
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Get a grip. That doesn't exist for any product manufactured anywhere.
wich sylus pen is the best for the note pro?
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wich sylus pen is the best for the note pro?
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I use the Bamboo Stylus Feel Carbon made by Wacom. https://store.wacom.com/us/en/product/CS400UK/
Nonmetal one the standard Bamboo Stylus Feel. https://store.wacom.com/us/en/product/CS300UK2/
I like a heavier feeling, sturdy pen. I love mine. I draw, read/highlight/do chem/math on mine and using it for hours at a time, that little dinky thing it comes with just wasn't cutting it. It also makes my hand cramp.
I've seen plenty of recommendations here for the 8pi as well http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009PJN1U8/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
If you want the best, go with Wacom. Aside from the fact that the original Spen tech is Wacom, it's also the brand used for drawing tablets in the professional industry. (Nearly all of Hollywood's special effects departments use Wacom's Intuos or Cintiq tablets.)
I've personally got the Wacom stylus feel for Note, the normal one. (Didn't have the cash for the carbon.)
Be sure to read my post here about which one is which, if you plan to get one. There are multiple versions, and not all are designed for the Note. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55099106&postcount=21 (Also read the rest of the tread if you encounter issues with it or the Spen.)
I know they're releasing an S-Pen version of this model, but I got one without the S Pen. I wanted to know though, if I could add in a manual S-Pen or a Pen that's compatible, like one of those Wacom versions.
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I know they're releasing an S-Pen version of this model, but I got one without the S Pen. I wanted to know though, if I could add in a manual S-Pen or a Pen that's compatible, like one of those Wacom versions.
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No. The S-Pen requires additional hardware in the tablet. There is a fine mesh metal screen behind the LCD, and the electronics that go with it, that your tablet doesn't have. Also, the only way I know of to charge the battery in a S-Pen, is via the built in charger in the tablet. That's why the S-Pen tablets cost so much more. The pens themselves a fairly cheap. BTW, the S-Pen IS a type of Wacom stylus.