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Replacement Stylus

I recently lost my stylus, at a park I think. I put the pen in my pocket instead of putting it back in my phone. That was a dumb mistake
Does anyone have a suggestion on where to buy a replacement stylus from?
Seems the price can range from 5 for $8($1.60 per Stylus) to 3 for $20($6.70 per Stylus). Is there any advantage to buying the more expensive ones or are the cheap ones just as good?
I couldn't find a thread that addressed this issue, if I missed it a re-direct would be appreciated

I've bought my replacements for my tilt at eforcity
http://www.eforcity.com/metal-stylu...-ii-chtc4550st02.html?int=efsechtxtrigos-item
they do a lot of business on ebay and carry a whole range of other stuff too. They also give you a $5 coupon for your next purchase for giving a review on reseller ratings
but there are many other sellers out there, i've seen no difference in the quality of the stylus, though I did have problems with a Nintendo DS stylus I bought from a Chinese vendor once. but then again 90% of this kind of stuff comes from china.

I am also in need of a replacement stylus, i lost my original one, the replacement i purchased seems to have a rougher tip than the original, i'm afraid it will scratch the screen.

I've seen them before in a Best Buy store, look around the phone accessories, or, if all else fails, ask someone.

Thanks for the replies.
I ordered some off ebay. 3 for $7. Seem decent enough. Weight a little more than the originals, which I think is a good thing.
All I have to do is hope the pens don't explode now

Looks Like a Good Buy, the only thing you might have to worry about is 1) the ink leaks out into the phone( i don't think the kaiser battery would generate enough heat), 2) losing the cap for the pen since it is the snap of type, can remember where i got mine from , it actually screws off first time i ever tried to use the pen side(lol). just mentioned eforcity since i bought all my cases and stuff from them, guess i didn't buy my stylus from them since they have the same type with the snap off. they sell some strange stuff at notebook.egde, i might pick up the 15 pc screwdriver set for 4.99, gotta replace the buttons on my tilt.

Me too. lost 2 stylus and now after using new finger friendly ROM since few months I dont feel need of stylus.

Unlosable stylus
Instead of getting a "stick" stylus, why not get a object that acts like a stylus? sounds like a funny riddle, but when you own one, the stick styluses do seem funny.
look at the link provided
http://triforce.se/

Have a look on marketplace
some users are selling parts

zyphuris55 said:
Instead of getting a "stick" stylus, why not get a object that acts like a stylus? sounds like a funny riddle, but when you own one, the stick styluses do seem funny.
look at the link provided
http://triforce.se/
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Cool, thanks for the link!

No Excuse for Shoddy Build Quality

As the title says:
I was so utterly disappointed with the 10.1
The first one I got Friday Morning had dead pixels on the black status bar at the bottom of the screen. I returned it a couple hours later to Best Buy.
The second one has dust under the middle of the screen. You could see black spots while surfing the web.
Finally, the third one had 8 pieces of dust under the right side of the screen.
I decided to return it and wait for a rumored Nexus Tab or Ice Cream.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE Android. I have the Nexus S 4g, and I have always had android phones. I had the Xoom, but it was too heavy and large. I really had high hopes for the Galaxy Tab. Yet, its sad that the build quality is lacking..
And... lets be honest, Honeycomb needs a LOT of polishing. Its laggy, and has none of the media consumption apps people crave(i.e. netflix, Hulu, HBO Go, etc.)
If you like the Tab do yourself a favor and try not to look at the screen too close.. I fear that there are imperfections on most of them... which is inexcusable

Sounds like you may have had a string of bad luck with the devices. Remember stuff like that gets shipped in bulk so it may have been just an issue with the one shipment to that Best Buy.
I haven't had any issues with build quality on mine. Was worried about the plastic backing but it doesn't dent in like the aluminum on my iPad so it's actually a plus (and it makes the thing lighter). I won't disagree with the Honeycomb needing polish however. For the most part it works fine but there is a significant lack of tablet optimized apps out there and the input lag in the stock browser is annoying at best.

Word...
I just got frustrated man. when you are dropping that much cash on a tab it should be flawless. ya know

Flawless is debatable... there is no such thing.. my $80k car (AMG C63 if anyone cares) is far from flawless, my house.. far from flawless. I have purchased $100+ software/hardware packages (Arcsight.. ridiculously expensive), far from flawless....
If you had asked me 10 or 20 years ago, then I would have agreed, but these days, everything is released with flaws and bugs, it is just how it is these days, and you will have to accept it, or you will never buy anything again..

Yeah man, I understand. I'd be pretty pissed to if I had to return my brand new shiny three times. But it's what all early adopters have to put up with; higher prices, untested technology, new waters and the like. It's what makes it fun,

This would be more shoddy QA than shoddy build quality wouldn't it? I actually quite like the build quality on the thing but could see getting pissed off if I had dust under the screen.

My experience that some people who are hyper-sensitive to "flaws" in devices are those that were truly unsure about their purchase in the first place. When they experience buyer's remorse, they suddenly find "flaws" in the device rather than admit that they made a poor purchasing decision. This bad behavior is unfortunately reinforced by the return policies of the retailers that charge restocking fees except in case of defects.
I'm not saying this is the case with OP. Just an observation.

jvanbrecht said:
Flawless is debatable... there is no such thing.. my $80k car (AMG C63 if anyone cares) is far from flawless, my house.. far from flawless. I have purchased $100+ software/hardware packages (Arcsight.. ridiculously expensive), far from flawless....
If you had asked me 10 or 20 years ago, then I would have agreed, but these days, everything is released with flaws and bugs, it is just how it is these days, and you will have to accept it, or you will never buy anything again..
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totally OT: $80k for a C63??? how cheap are those cars in the states?? for a normal configuration we have to pay at least about $95k (~67k €).

The 2011 C63 AMG starts at < $60k in the US (though realistically, $70k is the cheapest you'll find it). I'm not sure what the differences are vs the euro models.

rmmorse81 said:
As the title says:
I was so utterly disappointed with the 10.1
The first one I got Friday Morning had dead pixels on the black status bar at the bottom of the screen. I returned it a couple hours later to Best Buy.
The second one has dust under the middle of the screen. You could see black spots while surfing the web.
Finally, the third one had 8 pieces of dust under the right side of the screen.
I decided to return it and wait for a rumored Nexus Tab or Ice Cream.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE Android. I have the Nexus S 4g, and I have always had android phones. I had the Xoom, but it was too heavy and large. I really had high hopes for the Galaxy Tab. Yet, its sad that the build quality is lacking..
And... lets be honest, Honeycomb needs a LOT of polishing. Its laggy, and has none of the media consumption apps people crave(i.e. netflix, Hulu, HBO Go, etc.)
If you like the Tab do yourself a favor and try not to look at the screen too close.. I fear that there are imperfections on most of them... which is inexcusable
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Ice creams starts at 59 cents

Berner said:
I'm not saying this is the case with OP. Just an observation.
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My experience has been that some people who try to insinuate that any issues someone may have with a product are actually problems with the person rather than the device, are actually just trying to defend their own purchases.
I'm not saying this is the case with you. Just an observation.

hebbe said:
totally OT: $80k for a C63??? how cheap are those cars in the states?? for a normal configuration we have to pay at least about $95k (~67k €).
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They are definitely cheaper in the US then in most other places (even DE.. which is odd since they are made there...)
Base model runs around 60k, once you start adding options.. it goes up fast, I have everything but the Performance Package, and the number I through out is the avg for a model configured as mine, I did not pay that much (who ever pays MSRP anyways), as I picked mine up used (Certified Pre Owned model from MB).
You want horrible.. check out the C63 in Australia.. they run almost $200k AU. Half of that is I believe a luxury tax penalty....

jvanbrecht said:
Flawless is debatable... there is no such thing.. my $80k car (AMG C63 if anyone cares) is far from flawless, my house.. far from flawless. I have purchased $100+ software/hardware packages (Arcsight.. ridiculously expensive), far from flawless....
If you had asked me 10 or 20 years ago, then I would have agreed, but these days, everything is released with flaws and bugs, it is just how it is these days, and you will have to accept it, or you will never buy anything again..
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Come on now - the GTab and C63 have a lot of stuff in common - especially their use of copious amounts of cheap plastic. At least for the Tab, it's only $500

matt310 said:
Come on now - the GTab and C63 have a lot of stuff in common - especially their use of copious amounts of cheap plastic. At least for the Tab, it's only $500
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Yeah.. and it rattles alot.. drives me nuts.. granted that may have something to do with the monster V8 they shoehorned into the little C class.. but still, at the price point, they should have used better materials. At least in EU, and most of the rest of the world, you can get the option of leather dash/console/etc which replaces much of the plastic.. but that is not available on the C class for US AMG models, it is on the E and up classes though.

jvanbrecht said:
Yeah.. and it rattles alot.. drives me nuts.. granted that may have something to do with the monster V8 they shoehorned into the little C class.. but still, at the price point, they should have used better materials. At least in EU, and most of the rest of the world, you can get the option of leather dash/console/etc which replaces much of the plastic.. but that is not available on the C class for US AMG models, it is on the E and up classes though.
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The rattles are caused by a combination of low-profile tires, punishing suspension, and clips that hold dashboard components in place instead of screws. Also, the torsional rigidity of the C isn't as stiff as the E so when you go up driveways and the chassis flexes, that eventually takes its toll on tight tolerance components. Sometimes covering them with leather helps; sometimes not.
The greater concern to me is why MB didn't include an LSD with that car as standard equipment. It's part of the P30 package or a $2,000 standalone option, which to me makes next to no sense. All that power needs a way to get it reliably to the pavement!

rmmorse81 said:
As the title says:
I was so utterly disappointed with the 10.1
The first one I got Friday Morning had dead pixels on the black status bar at the bottom of the screen. I returned it a couple hours later to Best Buy.
The second one has dust under the middle of the screen. You could see black spots while surfing the web.
Finally, the third one had 8 pieces of dust under the right side of the screen.
I decided to return it and wait for a rumored Nexus Tab or Ice Cream.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE Android. I have the Nexus S 4g, and I have always had android phones. I had the Xoom, but it was too heavy and large. I really had high hopes for the Galaxy Tab. Yet, its sad that the build quality is lacking..
And... lets be honest, Honeycomb needs a LOT of polishing. Its laggy, and has none of the media consumption apps people crave(i.e. netflix, Hulu, HBO Go, etc.)
If you like the Tab do yourself a favor and try not to look at the screen too close.. I fear that there are imperfections on most of them... which is inexcusable
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Sounds like you had really bad luck. Did you exchange them from the same place? It might be the batch the store received was the problem, either tampered in production or in transportation. Overall, people seem to be happy with the build, including myself, so it seems you're case was exceptional, and you may give it another try at a different store or vendor.
Nexus Tab/Ice Cream are at best Q4, which can be 4-6 months away, and I wouldn't be surprised if they only came out next year. Honeycomb will definately improve before then, especially in a few weeks we should have custom ROMs too.

Dead pixels AND dust under the screen! I agree 100% with the OP. If you really got three in a row with screen defects that is not acceptable. You can ignore virtually any nick, ding or scratch on the body of a tablet, but it's really hard to ignore screen defects. Especially central ones. In many respects a tablet IS the screen. It's what you interact with all day long.
I'm not that surprised. Samsung sometimes has quality control issues. I ended up returning three Samsung projection TV's in a row once. One of them actually had a picture that was physically tilted so that one side was higher than the other - can't quite understand how that got past quality control. And then there is the recent GPS disaster with the Galaxy S phones - I had one of those and finally ended up getting rid of it because It was impossible to navigate with it.
Samsung is a strange company. They produce cutting edge products that have lots of rough edges. But when you finally get one of Samsung's devices that works correctly, they are sometimes really good. When I finally got a working TV from Samsung, after my fourth try, it lasted forever - superb picture and no problems. Love my Tab 7. And even the Galaxy S was a great phone, as long as you didn't have to get anywhere on time.
I'm surprised that Best Buy didn't give you a hard time with the dead pixels. Every once in a while you get a smart-assed salesman who likes to quote a dead pixel rule: "we can only exchange it if there are 5 or more dead pixels. Just because there's a big black one dead center in the middle of your screen isn't sufficient cause for an exchange!") Had circuit city try this with me on an LCD TV. Course stuff like that is probably the reason they went bankrupt.
This is one reason I prefer buying from brick and mortar stores with items like this. If Best Buy gave you no trouble with 3 returns, thats really commendable on their part. They would get my repeat business just for that.

jvanbrecht said:
Flawless is debatable... there is no such thing.. my $80k car (AMG C63 if anyone cares) is far from flawless, my house.. far from flawless. I have purchased $100+ software/hardware packages (Arcsight.. ridiculously expensive), far from flawless....
If you had asked me 10 or 20 years ago, then I would have agreed, but these days, everything is released with flaws and bugs, it is just how it is these days, and you will have to accept it, or you will never buy anything again..
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??? You have got to be kidding, right ? You may have low expectation and willing to take flaws, but not me, not now, not ever. Doing so just tells the manufactur we will accept the flaws and be done with it. Goodness, accept it ? No way

rmmorse81 said:
As the title says:
I was so utterly disappointed with the 10.1
The first one I got Friday Morning had dead pixels on the black status bar at the bottom of the screen. I returned it a couple hours later to Best Buy.
The second one has dust under the middle of the screen. You could see black spots while surfing the web.
Finally, the third one had 8 pieces of dust under the right side of the screen.
I decided to return it and wait for a rumored Nexus Tab or Ice Cream.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE Android. I have the Nexus S 4g, and I have always had android phones. I had the Xoom, but it was too heavy and large. I really had high hopes for the Galaxy Tab. Yet, its sad that the build quality is lacking..
And... lets be honest, Honeycomb needs a LOT of polishing. Its laggy, and has none of the media consumption apps people crave(i.e. netflix, Hulu, HBO Go, etc.)
If you like the Tab do yourself a favor and try not to look at the screen too close.. I fear that there are imperfections on most of them... which is inexcusable
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Did you clean your glasses before you inspected the tablet?
(J/k I returned one due to back light bleeding)

OP, if you got all of those from the same place, I suggest giving it one more shot and buying it somewhere else.

Transformer vs Galaxy tab 10.1

I literally just put my order in about 3 days ago and will see my TF on Thursday, but I'm having second thoughts. A friend of mine just got his TF in today, and - well I dunno, I'm not all that impressed.
Out of the box came with the speaker issue (one side is louder than the other). The sound wasn't all that loud
Screen brightness was kind of low
The sharp edges were cutting my fingers
So I started to have a read about the differences between the Transformer & the Galaxy tab in the Galaxy Tab section. However, I think everyone posting there is biased toward the tab because they are now tab fanboys posting in their forum.
A few things I do like about the TF. Price of $399 (unbeatable) Expandable ports, dock option, memory slot, hdmi out, 5mpx camera. Do I think I'll use all of that (except price)? Probably not.
A few things I like about the Tab. Same size screen with less bulk, thinner, lighter, rounded edges, very solid build quality. Do I think its worth an extra $100 for these items? I think so. Plus I know the resale value will definitely be there because its a well known brand.
I haven't made up my mind completely on this but im about 80% of the way there in returning my TF and going with the Tab.
Thoughts, comments?

Nobody can decide for you. Do whatever you are happiest with.

Having used a hybrid tablet/netbook like the Transformer, I would never buy a tablet-only device.

^x2
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It's more than $100 (or here in germany 100€). You don't have a MicroSD Slot and HDMI-out. Do you need both options you must pay way more. And for the same price you can get a Transformer+Dock.
I don't see, why anybody would pay more for less...

Hi mate,
I have had the TF since release day and to be honest I'm very happy with it. It does what I need it to do very well: reading books, browse internet, playing games, plays movies (although there are some issues).
On the other hand I don't need and I will never get the dock, simply because if I wanted a netbook there are much better options on the market. And I have one of them as well.
Because of that I'm waiting to see the Galaxy Tab in real life, hold it in my hands. And if that offers everything that I need and is better than the TF I might go for it.
So good luck choosing! Let us know what you go for.
rio
PS: Actually what I'm considering at the moment is the small Galaxy tab 8.9 (I think). That one was on the Samsung website for a while, but I'm not sure what is the current status

rio911 said:
PS: Actually what I'm considering at the moment is the small Galaxy tab 8.9 (I think). That one was on the Samsung website for a while, but I'm not sure what is the current status
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Actually that is the "MEDIUM" Galaxy Tab. THe "small" one is the 7 inch versions and there are two of them. The powerful 3G/Wifi one and the neutered and less power Wifi only version.
The MAJOR downside to any Galaxy Tabs are :
1.) Updates are so slow....MONTHS behind the others.
2.) 10 inchers have no expansion slots.....and the 8.9 as well I think.
Get whatever YOU decide to be happy with. Others cannot make that choice for you. Only YOU can.

Some people like smaller I would not be able to stand a 7" tablet or laptop without optical media. My motto has always been its the size/shape that makes it portable it doesn't matter if its 20lbs its still light and easy to move around. But then again I compare it with moving around 300-400lbs.

Digiguest said:
Actually that is the "MEDIUM" Galaxy Tab. THe "small" one is the 7 inch versions and there are two of them. The powerful 3G/Wifi one and the neutered and less power Wifi only version.
The MAJOR downside to any Galaxy Tabs are :
1.) Updates are so slow....MONTHS behind the others.
2.) 10 inchers have no expansion slots.....and the 8.9 as well I think.
Get whatever YOU decide to be happy with. Others cannot make that choice for you. Only YOU can.
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Gtab. 10.1 also with build issues. Many are suffering from Newton rings. Dust under screen. Colors are way oversaturated.....
If u want android in an ipad like body then go Samsung. If Samsung would have made the device 1 or 2 mm thicker and put in micro SD and HDMI they also would have been able to prevent the Newton ring issue and have the one killer tablet.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Digiguest said:
1.) Updates are so slow....MONTHS behind the others.
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I don't know how you can say that really.... there hasn't been any major updates for Samsung to pass onto the Tablets. The only time when you'll be able to use that point is when Ice Cream Sandwich comes out. I'd say that 1/2 months is a good enough turn around for manufacturers to update their devices a major version.
I'd also like to note that I have a Galaxy S. While Americans are still using Eclair because of their crappy carriers wanting to hack the firmware to bits, us using unbranded european devices got Gingerbread before any other device (bar the Nexus devices). Samsung know what they are doing.

The way I see it, from my experience with the TF is this:
16GB is not enough. My music alone is near this and more. Since there is no additional storage options on the GT, you are going to have to opt for a 32GB or more which equals greater $$$ to spend. But sacrifices could be made...
So, I would say the dock is the real reason to get this thing. If you are not too excited about the dock, I wouldn't bother. The GT excels in design, but the TF excels in utility and value.

If the "sharp edges" of the Transformer are really "cutting [your] fingers," that's a physical problem with the device (or your fingers, I guess!).

Buy sleeve m8,than will be perfect

Your not the first to have these concerns. I bought the tf and was considering selling it for a tab. But what you've stated (price, microsd, HDMI out, and KB option) kept me from doing so.
I played with the tab for an hour or so and still prefer my tf. I didn't like the button placement on the tab, (they're in a more natural placement on the tf.
I did have the speaker issue on my tf but it was an easy fix. Just root it (there's a very well written guide by yours truly ;-)) and read up on the thread in the development section and it's as easy as editing a txt file.
If the edges bother you, grab a case, I'm currently using the roocase multi-angle which I got from amazon for under $30.
Other than that the only downside of the tf I see is the charger. Proprietary connection, short cable and sometimes the adapter doesn't want to work.
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I was in the same boat. I traded my iPad2 for an Android tablet and had lots of offers. I was looking at the Galaxy Tab and thought it was for me until I found that it didn't have any expansion ports like the iPad2. It is one of the reasons why I HATED the iPad2 because you had to carry around the special USB cable to sync it... then you needed special software for it to work...
Screw all that. I need to be able to quickly get files on and off the my tablet. I don't want to have to rely on another computer or a computer with special software to read my stuff.
90% of the time you'll have access to a Home or Work PC which you will probably have setup properly... but trust me... you WILL find yourself somewhere needing to pull a picture off or text or an attachment or something and you'll be stuck. It will happen more often the more you use it.
Plus the price point. I was trading my iPad2 for whichever I wanted. Did I need the keyboard dock? No. Will I use the keyboard dock often? No. Is it badass? Yes.
The keyboard dock has an additional battery that will charge the tablet battery when docked. It also increases the functionality of the tab.
Both tablets are identical in hardware except the Transformer has lots of additional ports. microSD is a must and HDMI out is actually very handy for throwing pictures, movies, games, etc on a larger screen.
I just can't see buying the Galaxy Tab 10.1 for the same price as you could buy the Transformer + Dock.

sontin said:
It's more than $100 (or here in germany 100€). You don't have a MicroSD Slot and HDMI-out. Do you need both options you must pay way more. And for the same price you can get a Transformer+Dock.
I don't see, why anybody would pay more for less...
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I wouldn't exactly call the Samsung as "less" than the Transformer. I think they're different enough that it's gonna come down to how you personally use it.
One thing I'd like to point out - the Gtab is much easier to hold in your hand than the Transformer. Corners aren't as sharp, it's lighter, and seems better balanced. The texture on the back of the Gtab is easier to grab, though this could be solved with a sleeve on the Transformer.
Another point is screen reflection. The Transformer's glass is much farther away from the LCD than the glass on the Samsung. IPS screens are nice, but unless you're always going to be in a optimally lit room, you'll see a lot more reflections with the Transformer than with the Samsung Tab. Some Samsung Tab's have issues with the screen actually touching the LCD and making oil marks, but most don't.
So - the differences are definitely there. I don't you can write off the Gtab's advantages. The reflection and ergonomics itself might be worth $100.

My experience is that I just bought the Galaxy Tab 10.1 16GB about 5 days ago. I played with it over night and returned it the next day.
The following day, I purchased the Transformer 16GB and a dock for $50.00 more.
Now that I've owned the TF for 3-4 days, I'm very satisfied with it for many reasons:
- Multiple media input/out options: mini HDMI out, x2 USB ports, and SD/MMC card reader. - Will work perfectly with my Nikon P100's SD card and I can use a external HDD and plug it right into the USB port if I want to watch my movies.
- Dock acts as extended battery: I also tether my HTC Thunderbolt and plug it into the dock to keep a charge on my Thunderbolt while tethering my 4G to the Transformer.(SO MUCH WIN!!!)
- Having a keyboard when I want to compose an email is x100 better than thumbing my words through the tab. - I still use the touchscreen kb for somethings.
- Dock/keyboard has shortcut buttons which I take advantage of all the time.
- Textured casing makes handling the tablet/net book very secure and eliminates any smudges.
*I do not see where in the world you could cut your hand/finger on the tablet or the docking station. - You should tell your friend to get an RMA because there's something wrong with the one he has. Either that or he may need to see a dermatologist about amyloidosis, Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.
Re: Samsung Galaxy 10.1
I chose that tablet first because of the sleek design. I was extremely impressed with the way that Samsung engineered the design.
HOWEVER, no more than 1-2 hours after playing with it, I came back to my senses and see how limited I was with any options. Not only does it look like an iPad but it also has all the shortcomings in hardware that the iPad does.
I have had a few Android devices and so it's practically a religion to have a microSD card for my stuff. Samsung decided to cut back on adding any option to extend storage and that was a the biggest decider for me. - All the selling points that a Android tablet has in terms of hardware-media expansion was nerfed on latest Galaxy Tab. Did Samsung want to imitate Apple so much that they even decided to try and sell a tab that requires additional parts to make it comparable to all other tablets?
In the end, this is only my real life opinion having owned both devices and what I still have now is the Asus Transformer.
Once I used the keyboard/dock with my tablet, I can not imagine another tablet without this option. Asus did a decent job in engineering the look/feel of the tab with the dock/keyboard.
*I did have to return both tab and dock/keyboard to Best Buy until I found the right Best Buy which had B60 as my previous ones were B50.
Good lucking in making your decision. If you buy it at Best Buy, you can at least return it in 14 days without restocking fee and get the other one. If you felt that first one was better than you can simply return it again and go back to the other model. I am in NO WAY suggesting to abuse a return policy but it's there and it works as mentioned.

coachclass said:
I wouldn't exactly call the Samsung as "less" than the Transformer. I think they're different enough that it's gonna come down to how you personally use it.
One thing I'd like to point out - the Gtab is much easier to hold in your hand than the Transformer. Corners aren't as sharp, it's lighter, and seems better balanced. The texture on the back of the Gtab is easier to grab, though this could be solved with a sleeve on the Transformer.
Another point is screen reflection. The Transformer's glass is much farther away from the LCD than the glass on the Samsung. IPS screens are nice, but unless you're always going to be in a optimally lit room, you'll see a lot more reflections with the Transformer than with the Samsung Tab. Some Samsung Tab's have issues with the screen actually touching the LCD and making oil marks, but most don't.
So - the differences are definitely there. I don't you can write off the Gtab's advantages. The reflection and ergonomics itself might be worth $100.
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Of course the closer together glass in the gtab has led to the oil blob effect for Many
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I've had my TF since right after it launched in the US and I do love it. With that being said, I do plan on picking up a galaxy tab tomorrow, the last day that you can use the $50 off coupon for any tablet at staples.
The TF definately has the advantage when it comes to storage, because of the SD card and dock if you want to buy it, which I have no interest in. The galaxy tab however has a great form factor and from my limited use with one seems to have snappier performance than my TF, even though they have almost idendical specs, and my TF is overclocked. I also prefer the screen on the tab compared to the TF.
Honestly I think that the OP will be happy with either one. My only real gripe against the TF is that the majority of them seem to suufer from light bleed or some manufacturing defect, thankfully I only have minimal bleed, and that Asus has been slow with delivering on most of the official accessories that they promised months ago. I really want the desktop dock, which is readily available for the GT at a reasonable price.
I will say that if the galaxy tab disappoints me in any way during my return window, I will gladly buy a second TF after returning it.

I own the TF since late May...only problem I have with it is that the right speaker is louder than the left.
This past Sunday I bought the Galaxy Tab for someone and yeah it looks very nice it's thinner and lighter, but it seemed to have less options than the TF (specially within the browser settings.) The browser actually froze up on me and didn't want to display any pages. Didn't like that fact that it doesn't have an external microSD slot! I ended up returning it 2 hours later because the person preferred a laptop! My short experience with it wasn't good

Using a Stylus

I downloaded the SketchBook Express app from Autodesk. It's a great app for sketching and drawing, highly recommend. I wanted the ability to get more precise so I picked up a stylus from BB for way too much. while I was there I also took a look at the stylus for the Flyer. JEALOUS! That is a slick stylus and you can get such a very fine point that I do not believe is attainable with the Galaxy 10.1. It would be great if we could someday though. Anyone else play around with a stylus? Aside from the drawing aspect, it's a great way to keep finger grease from smearing all over your tab.

I would love a stylus like the flyer has, but those have digitizers in them or something so there's almost no delay

If you can wait a few weeks for the slow shipping, Deal Extreme has several to choose from. The one I got was comparable to a $12 Targus model.
It's not really possible to use a stylus like the one included with the HTC Flyer since the Flyer's screen also has a built-in digitizer.

Can you even draw without an insane amount of lag on the tab? The tab seems too sluggish to draw on, as you have to put your finger on the touchscreen, and drag it about 1 cm until the input is registered.
Comparing the Galaxy Tab with Asus Transformer (with Sketchbook Pro on both), the Galaxy Tab seems almost unusable for this. Perhaps the Touchwiz UX is the culprit?

I picked up a stylus by the the BB house brand, Rocketfish, for an inexpensive stylus for a trip...hoping to take notes with it. Talk about a disappointment. it's okay in place of a finger for navigation around the UI or even for use with Swype, but absolutely worthless for my intended purpose...very slow and inaccurate. I'm not sure how much is the stylus's fault vs the Galaxy Tab, but i'm returning it. Samsung's website has the official one for $20 and if you look around online, you can get a promo code for 15% off...but I don't know if that would be any better.

xenokira said:
I picked up a stylus by the the BB house brand, Rocketfish, for an inexpensive stylus for a trip...hoping to take notes with it. Talk about a disappointment. it's okay in place of a finger for navigation around the UI or even for use with Swype, but absolutely worthless for my intended purpose...very slow and inaccurate. I'm not sure how much is the stylus's fault vs the Galaxy Tab, but i'm returning it. Samsung's website has the official one for $20 and if you look around online, you can get a promo code for 15% off...but I don't know if that would be any better.
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A good quality stylus helps, but won't give you smooth note-taking. I have tried a couple and definitely a cheap one (like rocketfish) gives you significantly worse results than a higher end one (like boxwave).

Flaco05 said:
A good quality stylus helps, but won't give you smooth note-taking. I have tried a couple and definitely a cheap one (like rocketfish) gives you significantly worse results than a higher end one (like boxwave).
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That's good to know. Part of the issue, I think, is the extraordinarily wide tip if this stylus. I feel like I can't see exactly where on the screen it's making contact. I'll check out the boxwave one...any thoughts on the official Samsung stylus?

Adonit Jot & Jot Pro
As u guys know capacitive stylus have a very wide point so that it can be recognized by the device, therefore affecting precision. Thankfully some people already came up with a solution. U have to options.
1) DIY fine ponit stylus with materials u can find in ur house... for FREE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhB2BF5yQM
I found a blog where someone made a more precise intructions .... but I don't
remember the site!
2) Someone took the idea to kickstarter and know they are commercializing there
version of a fine point stylus.... only that it cost around 20-30 bucks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpwfoEk0-bY
http://adonit.net/product/7
I just pre ordered one of these bad boys!!!

Pedraso XDA said:
As u guys know capacitive stylus have a very wide point so that it can be recognized by the device, therefore affecting precision. Thankfully some people already came up with a solution. U have to options.
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They're still not the same as the digitizer/pen set-up on the likes of the HTC Flyer or the Galaxy Note, both the items you linked to still have a pad of sorts on the end.
They both seem very similar to the oStylus, just dressed up to look a bit more like they have a fine point.

I have a few different stylii, and I mainly use them to keep the fingerprints and smudges off the screen.
For anything more than basic taps and swipes, though, they're pretty useless.

I had pick up one of the Rockfish styluses too. Not what I had hope but about what I expected. Better to be disappointed for $9 than $20+.
I ordered a Jot over the weekend. It will probably be a couple a weeks before it arrives but I will post a review if and when it does.

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I had pick up one of the Rockfish styluses too. Not what I had hope but about what I expected. Better to be disappointed for $9 than $20+.
I ordered a Jot over the weekend. It will probably be a couple a weeks before it arrives but I will post a review if and when it does.
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It's funny you mentioned Jot--I just found this stylus this morning and ordered the Jot Pro. Hopefully it's a fast 4 weeks!

xenokira said:
I picked up a stylus by the the BB house brand, Rocketfish, for an inexpensive stylus for a trip...hoping to take notes with it. Talk about a disappointment. it's okay in place of a finger for navigation around the UI or even for use with Swype, but absolutely worthless for my intended purpose...very slow and inaccurate. I'm not sure how much is the stylus's fault vs the Galaxy Tab, but i'm returning it. Samsung's website has the official one for $20 and if you look around online, you can get a promo code for 15% off...but I don't know if that would be any better.
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Bought of these at BB also for $8. Didn't expect much, but I do agree that it's horrible for memo/note taking. Great for surfing the web and other task though.

While I'm growing used to the e.stylo, I'm still wishing for something with a fine point. Ordered a Jot Pro; hopefully it's all that and more.
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Just wanted to toss my 2 cents in. I just got my Jot a few days ago. Works great. The biggest issue I have with drawing now is the lag between drawing a stroke and having it show up on the screen.
Any tips for fixing this issue?

Just got my Jot Pro. I should have thought this through...I have a Zagg Invisible Shield on my tablet. Anyone who's used one before knows that it has it's own stickiness characteristic. I should have considered it before ordering the stylus. It just doesn't work well at all. The screen has far too much grip with the protector on it. Now i'm faced with 1) returning the stylus (sad face because it works awesome on other devices), 2) removing my Invisible Shield and forfeiting the $30 it costs, or 3) or just hold into the stylus and deal with the problem later.
Like I said though, the Jot Pro does work really well on other devices without the Zagg screen protector. I was very presently surprised when trying it on a Nexus S. The accuracy is fantastic!

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Can you even draw without an insane amount of lag on the tab? The tab seems too sluggish to draw on, as you have to put your finger on the touchscreen, and drag it about 1 cm until the input is registered.
Comparing the Galaxy Tab with Asus Transformer (with Sketchbook Pro on both), the Galaxy Tab seems almost unusable for this. Perhaps the Touchwiz UX is the culprit?
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was the transformer on 3.2? Just wondering because I saw a video of a person using the stylus on the old Galaxy tab (running gingerbread) and it writes smooth as butter. Just curious

i have the jot pro and the tab is still hopeless at handwriting due to lag. I don't mind if my writing looksawful but there are big gaps in letters where it can't keep up. Frustrating as I have heard and read this doesn't happen on transformer/ipad.

Jake-CT said:
i have the jot pro and the tab is still hopeless at handwriting due to lag. I don't mind if my writing looksawful but there are big gaps in letters where it can't keep up. Frustrating as I have heard and read this doesn't happen on transformer/ipad.
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I tried my Jot Pro on a friend's Galaxy Tab last night and can confirm this. Glad I didn't rip my Invisible Shield off. I wonder what causing it...

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was the transformer on 3.2? Just wondering because I saw a video of a person using the stylus on the old Galaxy tab (running gingerbread) and it writes smooth as butter. Just curious
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Yes, it was 3.2. However, having flashed BroodComb, used Titanium Backup to freeze all unnecessary bloatware and applied the V6 supercharger seems to have reduced the lag considerably -- it could be better though. (I don't know why you would compare Gingerbread with Honeycomb though?)
I have tried the touchscreen booster app as well, but it does nothing (or at least, I've noticed no difference).

Ergonomics (in-hand feel)

Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I had a good hour hands on time today at Samsung 837. I like the feel. It's a more professional feel. Premium all the way around. Solid. Sturdy. These are just a few words to describe how it felt. Slightly larger than the S8+ (current device) I get my free Note 8 sometime in September. From the sound I should get it a few days or maybe a week before normal consumers. Feel free to ask my any questions. I'll be glad to answer what I can.
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pestilencec11 said:
I had a good hour hands on time today at Samsung 837. I like the feel. It's a more professional feel. Premium all the way around. Solid. Sturdy. These are just a few words to describe how it felt. Slightly larger than the S8+ (current device) I get my free Note 8 sometime in September. From the sound I should get it a few days or maybe a week before normal consumers. Feel free to ask my any questions. I'll be glad to answer what I can.
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How bad is the fingerprint reader placement? I've come to like the simplicity of the front mounted fingerprint reader (easier to unlock my phone when it's on my car dock). And what do you think of Bixby?

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How bad is the fingerprint reader placement? I've come to like the simplicity of the front mounted fingerprint reader (easier to unlock my phone when it's on my car dock). And what do you think of Bixby?
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I assume it depends on the size of your hand. I already have 2 TPU cases and its going to be a non-issue for me because I have somewhat large hands. My current device is the LG V20 and with it side by side to the Note 8 cases the V20 can completely eat the Note 8.

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Fingerprint sensor is a none issue for me. I have probably smaller than average hands. It's a little further than the S8+. We had a chance to speak to the leader software dev for Bixby. I got put on the spot and was asked how I liked it. I told them that I understand that it's still being developed and will get better with time. They didn't accept that and so I said day to day tasks it still needs help and Google is much faster and more accurate with the results. He said thank for the feed back and that they are working tirelessly to make just as good if not better than Google voice. Iris is near instant and same with the FP sensor.
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That's my concern as well. I think the scanner is too far up and for Samsung to say they listen to their customers is really taking the biscuit, because this has and is an issue with the s8+. They don't care as long as as it's design happy for them to be honest.

I have a large enough hand that I can reach my thumb to the other side of the screen on a large phone.
The Note 8, felt great in my hand, as a former Note 7 owner (I still have one but stopped using it) this phone simply builds on the Note 7 feel, the phone is sturdy, anything that moves only because they engineered it to. It feels refined and looks great. I can't help but want to throw a case at it the minute I receive mine.
However, the placement of the fingerprint reader makes little sense to me.
The fact that it's off to the side isn't even the issue, it was simply difficult to locate, sure I'm sure i'll get used to it, but I currently have the V20 and it took me no effort to locate the scanner in the back to turn on my screen.
I wish the Note 8 fingerprint scanner was also a button.

I would read a comment from Donald Trump on this topic

I was in the store today, wanted to compare to my 6p. It's barely taller and a smidge thinner, was surprised it's so small. Next to the Galaxy 8+it's almost the same size but without the rounded corners. Very manageable if you've been using a large phone
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Samsung is buying back Note 7 at full price no questions asked
Ryuichi.Aig said:
I have a large enough hand that I can reach my thumb to the other side of the screen on a large phone.
The Note 8, felt great in my hand, as a former Note 7 owner (I still have one but stopped using it) this phone simply builds on the Note 7 feel, the phone is sturdy, anything that moves only because they engineered it to. It feels refined and looks great. I can't help but want to throw a case at it the minute I receive mine.
However, the placement of the fingerprint reader makes little sense to me.
The fact that it's off to the side isn't even the issue, it was simply difficult to locate, sure I'm sure i'll get used to it, but I currently have the V20 and it took me no effort to locate the scanner in the back to turn on my screen.
I wish the Note 8 fingerprint scanner was also a button.
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you are in luck if you want to sell your Note 7 as samsung is currently buying them back for around 800 no questions asked. i didn't send mine in either and i just sold it via craigslist to a guy who is about 3 hops from samsung. now, you can't get 800 for it yourself - has to be shipped specially and has to get to the right dealer but, this is a quiet little factoid that is not very well known and i thought i would post it here. i got 380 for mine - it helps offset the note 8 i pre-ordered.

serusaert said:
you are in luck if you want to sell your Note 7 as samsung is currently buying them back for around 800 no questions asked. i didn't send mine in either and i just sold it via craigslist to a guy who is about 3 hops from samsung. now, you can't get 800 for it yourself - has to be shipped specially and has to get to the right dealer but, this is a quiet little factoid that is not very well known and i thought i would post it here. i got 380 for mine - it helps offset the note 8 i pre-ordered.
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That's crazy, is that really true? So what do I need to do, call Samsung?

Ryuichi.Aig said:
That's crazy, is that really true? So what do I need to do, call Samsung?
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i don't think so - i'm pretty sure you have to sell to a person who deals in phones. i found a dude on craigslist specifically looking for them. he resells them to someone who resells them to a dealer that then ships them to korea. like i said, this seems to be a quiet thing - i don't think you would have much luck trying to approach samsung directly, but you never know.
if you do look on craigslist for phone buyers, be safe - only meet them where there are cameras and people. it's a good sign if they are just as careful as you.

serusaert said:
i don't think so - i'm pretty sure you have to sell to a person who deals in phones. i found a dude on craigslist specifically looking for them. he resells them to someone who resells them to a dealer that then ships them to korea. like i said, this seems to be a quiet thing - i don't think you would have much luck trying to approach samsung directly, but you never know.
if you do look on craigslist for phone buyers, be safe - only meet them where there are cameras and people. it's a good sign if they are just as careful as you.
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I reckon calling Samsung is absolutely worth a try. It's a product recall due to safety concerns. I wouldn't be surprised if they took it back at full price.
If you bought the phone via a third party, you should probably try them first.
Nothing to lose, right?

Back to the topic 'in hand', just received my Note and while I love the phone overall it's WAYYY too big in the hand. Can't reach anything (I have probably normal sized hands), and it's two hands all the way. Real disappointment. Even this keyboard on the screen looks like it's for the hard of sight, it's so large. Almost the size of my kindle. Oh well, will be returning and going back to my S8...

alexkaye said:
Back to the topic 'in hand', just received my Note and while I love the phone overall it's WAYYY too big in the hand. Can't reach anything (I have probably normal sized hands), and it's two hands all the way. Real disappointment. Even this keyboard on the screen looks like it's for the hard of sight, it's so large. Almost the size of my kindle. Oh well, will be returning and going back to my S8...
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use swiftkey for keyboard and resize it smaller or just resize the Samsung keyboard

Is it very slippery?

Don't have the phone yet, but I bought a case. The case is almost exactly the same width as my Note 4 in a Commuter case. It's about a half an inch taller. I'm more concerned with the width, so glad that it is what I'm used to. Now I just need to get the phone, so that I can put it in the case.

Anyone else think the phone feels heavy? Came from a note 3 and this thing feels way heavier to me.

I will say wish the phone was wider. Overall the phone feels well balanced to the point you don't have to hold it tight.
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I owed any note for eu avaible. Actuelly note 4. Yesterday my 8 arrived. Im sorry but its a complete design (handeling) failure. The benefit of the note seriaes was to use thw spen to do notes, sketches etc. For this you need space to do the input. For this reason you need some kind of widthnees of the inputplace. Any of the manual notebooks, sketchbooks or any other kind note papers, even postit, do have an format like din, 1:1, 4:3, 3:2 but nothing you are doing your notes on is 16:whatever...