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Hello,
I am looking to buy a Smartwatch. I saw very good reviews of the Moto 360 1st gen (good price too) but I have small wrists so it would look huge on me. I recently stumbled upon Finow X5 and No. 1 D5 (and G4) but since they are not as popular I couldn't find as much information... Now I just found another one - K9 3G. That's why I am seeking your help. Which one should I go for? It saw that No. 1 tends to look weird on the hand, so for me now is mostly down to X5 vs K9. I don't know if the X1 / X3 models of Finow are worth over X5.
I am open to any smartwatch suggestions in the budget of £100-150, which means I also consider the Moto 360 2nd gen (42mm), but there are so many options in this market, I am just confused.
Also, I will plan to use the Smartwatch with no SIM inside (who uses a sim with that anyway? I need it in my phone), I live in the UK and I got an Android phone with 5.1. Will i be able to get full functionality out of the above models?
If you can drop your 2 cents here, I would greatly appreciate.
If you can afford it moto 360 2nd gen especially if it's for watch faces as they are much easier to install over the full Android watches. Android wear is a bit like Apple it just works well and more apps come out daily.
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snake65 said:
If you can afford it moto 360 2nd gen especially if it's for watch faces as they are much easier to install over the full Android watches. Android wear is a bit like Apple it just works well and more apps come out daily.
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Thanks for the reply. Sorry for being such a noob, Finow devices don't use android wear? So if they use stock android, there might be some advantages in that too I guess.
You would say Moto 2nd gen 42mm over Finow X5 for functionality? Cause regarding design, Moto has that little black strip unfortunately, a bit of turn off)
I had the Moto 360 1st gen and loved it but wanted something more powerful. Don't get me wrong from what I've seen here the finow is exceptional value for money , I have an i2 but stuck at bootloader and waiting on the arrival of the kw88, but you need to look around and read for yourself.
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The 2nd gen Moto 360 has appalling battery life apparently, which is a thing to be wary of. I'd love for the Chinese manufacturers to up their game when it comes to companion watches, I understand the advantages of a standalone, but I think they've underestimated what a large market segment they could tap into by pressuring the mainstream brands (I also understand this is down to Google licensing of android wear, but what happened to AWC? Shows there are workarounds?).
That said, watches like the X5 etc. Show massive potential, the Ticwatch 2 looks very interesting as well.
PS. Just to add that Motorola's customer service and repair centres are woeful also if you're in the UK
letrix42 said:
Thanks for the reply. Sorry for being such a noob, Finow devices don't use android wear? So if they use stock android, there might be some advantages in that too I guess.
You would say Moto 2nd gen 42mm over Finow X5 for functionality? Cause regarding design, Moto has that little black strip unfortunately, a bit of turn off)
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Take a look here - https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109827242607524552712
We have done a lot of work with these devices and when it comes to custom watch faces the X5, X3 (which is the same as K9) and X1 (same as D5) is a fantastic watch.
It is really a stand alone watch at the moment though. It takes a sim card and works exactly like a mobile phone.
pablo11 said:
Take a look here - https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109827242607524552712
We have done a lot of work with these devices and when it comes to custom watch faces the X5, X3 (which is the same as K9) and X1 (same as D5) is a fantastic watch.
It is really a stand alone watch at the moment though. It takes a sim card and works exactly like a mobile phone.
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Wow, just awesome!! Finow X5 looks like a great great device. I see you know what you are talking about, so maybe you can help me out a little.
My main concern is that I won't be able to get the most out of my Finow if I don't use it with its own SIM - and really, who would ditch the phone over a smart watch? I can only think how much you lose: web browsing with ease on bigger screen, private phone calls (you keep it to your ear, not on speaker), writing messages a lot easier, photos/videos on decent screen etc.
Will I be able to do the following with the X5?
- get notifications from the phone on the watch (SMS, Emails, Whatsapp, Facebook)
- disable notifications / reply to messages received on phone with the X5
- accept calls from the watch (again, no SIM inside, call received on the phone)
Also, is the Moto360 (2nd gen, 42mm) more limited compared to the Finow X5 from other points of views? Will I be able to load any watchface on the Moto 360, as I see we are able to do with the X5? Will I be better off using a SIM in my phone and one in my X5? Does the X5 communicate with my smartphone whatsoever - do they share any notifications?
letrix42 said:
Wow, just awesome!! Finow X5 looks like a great great device. I see you know what you are talking about, so maybe you can help me out a little.
My main concern is that I won't be able to get the most out of my Finow if I don't use it with its own SIM - and really, who would ditch the phone over a smart watch? I can only think how much you lose: web browsing with ease on bigger screen, private phone calls (you keep it to your ear, not on speaker), writing messages a lot easier, photos/videos on decent screen etc.
Will I be able to do the following with the X5?
- get notifications from the phone on the watch (SMS, Emails, Whatsapp, Facebook)
- disable notifications / reply to messages received on phone with the X5
- accept calls from the watch (again, no SIM inside, call received on the phone)
Also, is the Moto360 (2nd gen, 42mm) more limited compared to the Finow X5 from other points of views? Will I be able to load any watchface on the Moto 360, as I see we are able to do with the X5? Will I be better off using a SIM in my phone and one in my X5? Does the X5 communicate with my smartphone whatsoever - do they share any notifications?
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To be honest - looking at your list of requirements - I would suggest Android Wear.
All you really want is a companion watch - these X5 etc etc are stand alone.
Not good for pairing with phones - although some people do manage to work through it with app like M2D and similar
pablo11 said:
To be honest - looking at your list of requirements - I would suggest Android Wear.
All you really want is a companion watch - these X5 etc etc are stand alone.
Not good for pairing with phones - although some people do manage to work through it with app like M2D and similar
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Well I will definitely take the X5 over Android Wear if I could get paring to work too. The no flat tire display just looks better. Can you please tell me which are, in your opinion, the 1-2 major functionalities of X5 over Android Wear (Moto 360) and one major downside?
And hold on a minute, I got an idea. What if I put my SIM in the X5 and use this M2D app on the phone to get notification from the watch on the phone. Will that improve the communication between the devices? I mainly use my phone for browsing on a big screen (over WiFi, no SIM use), taking pictures (no SIM use) and making calls (SIM use). So how do you cope with phone calls on the speaker of the X5? Aren't you concerned about other people hearing the person you are speaking to / the quality of the X5 microphone?
Honestly, I incline more for the X5 at this point, but I still want to clarify the above points before making a decision. Thank you so much Pablo!
letrix42 said:
Well I will definitely take the X5 over Android Wear if I could get paring to work too. The no flat tire display just looks better. Can you please tell me which are, in your opinion, the 1-2 major functionalities of X5 over Android Wear (Moto 360) and one major downside?
And hold on a minute, I got an idea. What if I put my SIM in the X5 and use this M2D app on the phone to get notification from the watch on the phone. Will that improve the communication between the devices? I mainly use my phone for browsing on a big screen (over WiFi, no SIM use), taking pictures (no SIM use) and making calls (SIM use). So how do you cope with phone calls on the speaker of the X5? Aren't you concerned about other people hearing the person you are speaking to / the quality of the X5 microphone?
Honestly, I incline more for the X5 at this point, but I still want to clarify the above points before making a decision. Thank you so much Pablo!
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As far as a companion, Wear is a much better choice. Of Wear, skip the 360 and get the original LG (square). You can find the LG for as little as $50 these days. And even though the LG might not look cool to you, it has the same CPU, RAM, storage and features the Asus, LG R and many others.
In a X5 vs Wear;
Readability of the font- Wear (the UI is designed for smartwatches)
Notification interaction- Wear (X5 requires third party apps for notification interactions)
Notification logs- X5
Wearable Apps- Wear (while limited in features, all apps for Wear are designed for smaller screens)
Voice Commands- Wear
Navigation- tie
Remote music and camera control- Wear
Phonecalls on watch from phone- neither work
Phonecalls on watch (no phone)- X5 *requires a SIM in the watch* (but about 2 hours is the best you will get)
Custom watchfaces- Wear has something like 100,000, X5 couple hundred
Watchface features- Wear, by a long shot if you use WatchMaker
Battery life- As a companion using BT, same
The best way to look at this is Wear is designed to be a companion out of the box. The X5 (D5, K9, etc) are tiny little phones for your wrist with tiny little batteries, and not really designed to be a full companion device.
Lokifish Marz said:
As far as a companion, Wear is a much better choice. Of Wear, skip the 360 and get the original LG (square). You can find the LG for as little as $50 these days. And even though the LG might not look cool to you, it has the same CPU, RAM, storage and features the Asus, LG R and many others.
In a X5 vs Wear;
Readability of the font- Wear (the UI is designed for smartwatches)
Notification interaction- Wear (X5 requires third party apps for notification interactions)
Notification logs- X5
Wearable Apps- Wear (while limited in features, all apps for Wear are designed for smaller screens)
Voice Commands- Wear
Navigation- tie
Remote music and camera control- Wear
Phonecalls on watch from phone- neither work
Phonecalls on watch (no phone)- X5 *requires a SIM in the watch* (but about 2 hours is the best you will get)
Custom watchfaces- Wear has something like 100,000, X5 couple hundred
Watchface features- Wear, by a long shot if you use WatchMaker
Battery life- As a companion using BT, same
The best way to look at this is Wear is designed to be a companion out of the box. The X5 (D5, K9, etc) are tiny little phones for your wrist with tiny little batteries, and not really designed to be a full companion device.
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Alright, I just bought a second hand LG Urbane W150 in good condition for $130. I hope I made the right choice, looking for your opinion. I didn't go for the square LG cause I don't like the design... and the Moto 360 has that flat tire on the bottom that I don't like.
hi guyz... am going to buy my first smart watch...i have sorted out some good watches after little research... now am confused which watch should i buy from the following..
1. Finow x5
2.Finow x3+
3.NO.1 D5+
i am impressed from amoled screen of finow x5 but i dont like its three large buttons :/ does amoled screen really make it better from other watches ? plz suggest me so that i can buy the good one...
thanks ,
rehanmumtaz said:
hi guyz... am going to buy my first smart watch...i have sorted out some good watches after little research... now am confused which watch should i buy from the following..
1. Finow x5
2.Finow x3+
3.NO.1 D5+
i am impressed from amoled screen of finow x5 but i dont like its three large buttons :/ does amoled screen really make it better from other watches ? plz suggest me so that i can buy the good one...
thanks ,
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X3+ is the best opinion if u like a real watch look of Smartwatch. Im using it with total satisfaction.
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They ar very similar... If you make sport buy x3 plus, if you use suit at work buy d5+.. Thats my opinion because the bracelet. They are nor replaced in this smartwatchs
X3+ for running
ziaulh.ch said:
X3+ is the best opinion if u like a real watch look of Smartwatch. Im using it with total satisfaction.
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Hi,
I am interested on buying x3+ for running. I have doubts, maybe you could help me?
Are running apps running well?
Is a problem de round shape? On running apps?
Does gps have good precision?
Finally. Is heart rate sensor working good? Even running? Can you keep it on during long time?
Thanks for all,
Luis Puig
did you know if it works with running apps ?
nike running or endomondo ?
is it water resistant ? so it would be sweat resistant ?
The new X5 Plus
https://finowatch.es.aliexpress.com....12010408.0.0.jS7Bc7&tracelog=newarrivals_tab
lpuig said:
Hi,
I am interested on buying x3+ for running. I have doubts, maybe you could help me?
Are running apps running well?
Is a problem de round shape? On running apps?
Does gps have good precision?
Finally. Is heart rate sensor working good? Even running? Can you keep it on during long time?
Thanks for all,
Luis Puig
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Running apps work perfect.
There are many apps compatible with round shape. so no worries.
GPS is good. gets locked fast.
Hear rate monitor is nice and fast but it doesnt rate continuously.
I recommend this watch if you want a real watch like feel.
Hi:
I'm also considering one of these 2 watch to buy (the X5+ or the D5+), or even other to buy. The X5+ has the advantage to have the amoled screen, but the no.1 seems to have more support (or at least i can't seem to find any support and firmware page on the finow website).
The watch will be used for receiving notifications from my Android phone and to track my sports activity (running), using sports tracker and C25K applications (heart rate will be monitored by an heart rate band - polar HR-7).
So, what do you guys suggest?
ilgincix said:
hi watch face, launcher and app archive
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What you have done here is collected just about all the copyright protected faces and launchers ever made and distributed them without permission.
You do not own any of them. You did not make any of them and you have been reported - not just to the XDA admin team but to outside agencies as well.
What did you think you were doing ? It's a blatant act of piracy .......
Hey guys and girls,
I want to buy a full android watch and spent the afternoon reading through the forum and watching the YouTube videos where all the watches are presented...
Now I narrowed it down to the Lemfo Lem5, the Finow X5 Plus and the No.1 D5+...
As far as I understand the Lemfo and the Finow are pretty much the same, right??
The main reason for this thread is, that I landed on a big smartwatch selling page and there it said that both the Limfo and the Finow DONT have WIFI... But everywhere else it says that both models have WiFi on board... So to be 100% sure I wanted to ask you guys who own the watches...
Thanks in advance for your help...
Greet Ric
About Finow X5 Plus
Smartwatch mit Android OS h__ps://___.techreviewer.de/finow-x5-plus/
Überblick
Hersteller
Finow
Produktbezeichnung
Finow X5 Plus
Spezifikationen
Displaytyp: AMOLED
Displaydiagonale: 1.39 Zoll
Displayauflösung: 400 x 400 Pixel
CPU: MTK6580
RAM: 1GB
Interner Speicher: 8GB
Speichererweiterung: Nein
Bluetooth: 4.0
WiFi: 802.11 b/g/n
GPS: Ja
Pedometer: Ja
Herzfrequenzmesser: Ja
Netz:
*GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
*WCDMA: 850/1900/2100MHz
OS: Android 5.1
Akku: 450mAh
I am the same, I do not know which of these three models to choose, which one has the best after-sales service and best community? What is the best of the three?
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Three of them are very similar, so you have to take the visual aspect into consideration, I am most in favor of LEM5 it looks the best for me.
I have one question regarding FINOW X5 Plus.
Is it waterproof? Or just IP55/54?
I can`t find this info...
Lemfo has IP55.
1- LEM5 and X5+ are the same watch under different brands
2- All three are supported by a +8000 member community specifically geared towards these round full android watches. This includes a large number of custom faces, firmware, custom apps, tech support and so on.
3- The D5+ is part of a larger family of watches spread across multiple brands as well.
4- All three of them have wifi. Most of those selling sites couldn't get the specs right if their life depended on it.
So what it comes down to really picking is 1 button vs 3, LCD vs OLED, smaller watch vs larger watch.
EDIT
About that IPx4 or x5 rating, don't trust it. IPx5 is 12L/minute water jets from any direction with no issue. Basically this;
Lokifish Marz said:
1- LEM5 and X5+ are the same watch under different brands
2- All three are supported by a +8000 member community specifically geared towards these round full android watches. This includes a large number of custom faces, firmware, custom apps, tech support and so on.
3- The D5+ is part of a larger family of watches spread across multiple brands as well.
4- All three of them have wifi. Most of those selling sites couldn't get the specs right if their life depended on it.
So what it comes down to really picking is 1 button vs 3, LCD vs OLED, smaller watch vs larger watch.
EDIT
About that IPx4 or x5 rating, don't trust it. IPx5 is 12L/minute water jets from any direction with no issue. Basically this;
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Thanks Lokifish for the very comprehensive answer! To be honest I am not sure anymore if I really should buy a full android watch atm. The reason why I wanted this is that I am using windows phone and the app situation is not really awesome... I thought a full android watch could fill that gap in some situations. But now I figured that NFC is necessary for some apps (e.g. mobile payment at my local grocery shop). Do you know a full android watch with NFC?
Thanks a lot!
Lokifish Marz said:
1- LEM5 and X5+ are the same watch under different brands
2- All three are supported by a +8000 member community specifically geared towards these round full android watches. This includes a large number of custom faces, firmware, custom apps, tech support and so on.
3- The D5+ is part of a larger family of watches spread across multiple brands as well.
4- All three of them have wifi. Most of those selling sites couldn't get the specs right if their life depended on it.
So what it comes down to really picking is 1 button vs 3, LCD vs OLED, smaller watch vs larger watch.
EDIT
About that IPx4 or x5 rating, don't trust it. IPx5 is 12L/minute water jets from any direction with no issue. Basically this;
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I`m only curious about waterproof during heave rain or washing my hands, not more.
On LEM5 spec it`s mentioned about it, but not as it comes to X5+. But for me, X5+ looks better and I`m keen on it more. I only need some proof I can use it during washing hands or heavy rain.
ricola7 said:
Thanks Lokifish for the very comprehensive answer! To be honest I am not sure anymore if I really should buy a full android watch atm. The reason why I wanted this is that I am using windows phone and the app situation is not really awesome... I thought a full android watch could fill that gap in some situations. But now I figured that NFC is necessary for some apps (e.g. mobile payment at my local grocery shop). Do you know a full android watch with NFC?
Thanks a lot!
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If you want contactless payment you don't need NFC. Hexxa Atenea has chip & PIN support via an insert in the band. If you live in the U.S. though, forget it. The U.S. only recently started using the decade old older chip & signature system, which is incompatible with chip & PIN.
If you want NFC, you will not find a single smartwatch with fully working NFC. Not Apple, Wear, Samsung, or full Android.
having the same doubts, I bought three and teste: D5+, Finow X3+, and LEM5.
LEM5:
the good: it's prettier, larger, has three buttons and I really like the interface.
the bad: the battery. it last for 8 hours when I basically do not use it
D5+: ,
the good: battery life. this lasts forever.
the bad: only one button. the interface is not that cool
Finow X3 Plus:
the good: battery lasts ovefr a day with regular use. the two buttons make it easy to use.
the bad: visually my least favorite one, screen is a bit small for my eyes, not a fan of silicon band.
ilgincix said:
hi watch face, launcher and app archive
click and download
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What you have done here is collected just about all the copyright protected faces and launchers ever made and distributed them without permission.
You do not own any of them. You did not make any of them and you have been reported - not just to the XDA admin team but to outside agencies as well.
What did you think you were doing ? It's a blatant act of piracy .......
hello
I gave the same dilema... I want of those, but don't know which one to choose...
is their thickness the same as below? Is the screen from the No.1 D5+ the IPS or OLED one?
Lemfo lem5 1,39"-400*400 48*48*12mm
No.1 D5+ 1 1,3"-360*360 46*46*13mm
Finow X5 plus 1,39"-400*400 48*48*13mm
tks
I gathered some information in this forum and around the internet and I've found that there are 2 possibilities for me: android wear devices (but the price is higher) and Chinese smartwatches, which seems to be more "complete" as they run a modified version of android (so that play store and other common android features work on the watch). Plus, I'd like to know more about rooting and flashing smartwatches... I see some kingwear, or lemfo lem5 (currently my favourite by design).
Now, is this correct? And if so, what smartwatch would you suggest right now?
I've also found these: FINOW X5: http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watch-phone/pp_576172.html NO.1 D5+: http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watch-phone/pp_446744.html
GoldenGallade said:
I gathered some information in this forum and around the internet and I've found that there are 2 possibilities for me: android wear devices (but the price is higher) and Chinese smartwatches, which seems to be more "complete" as they run a modified version of android (so that play store and other common android features work on the watch). Plus, I'd like to know more about rooting and flashing smartwatches... I see some kingwear, or lemfo lem5 (currently my favourite by design).
Now, is this correct? And if so, what smartwatch would you suggest right now?
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The only problem i have with the chinese smartwatches (i have 3 different types) is battery life (with the exeption of LEM4 / DM98). I can't get thru the day with one charge. And what good is a smartwatch if it runs out of battery in the middle of the day. It's like wearing a rock around your wrist.
Android wear smartwatches get thru the day on one charge, sometimes even two or three days (i have the LG G watch R, and only have to charge it once in two days). I'm waiting untill the Android Wear 2.0 smartwatches will hit the marked in a few weeks/month to really replace my LG g watch R. Yes, they will be more expensive then the chinese "full android" smartwatches but battery life is important to me.
froggerman said:
The only problem i have with the chinese smartwatches (i have 3 different types) is battery life (with the exeption of LEM4 / DM98). I can't get thru the day with one charge. And what good is a smartwatch if it runs out of battery in the middle of the day. It's like wearing a rock around your wrist.
Android wear smartwatches get thru the day on one charge, sometimes even two or three days (i have the LG G watch R, and only have to charge it once in two days). I'm waiting untill the Android Wear 2.0 smartwatches will hit the marked in a few weeks/month to really replace my LG g watch R. Yes, they will be more expensive then the chinese "full android" smartwatches but battery life is important to me.
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I don't think battery life would be a problem for me, I would not make an intense use of it. It's more like -when my phone battery runs out, I still have my watch. But ye when the battery runs out the watch becomes a rock. So I should consider battery life of: NO.1 D5+, FINOW X5 PLUS and LEMFO LEM5 (my 3 choices for now). Do you have any of them?
GoldenGallade said:
I don't think battery life would be a problem for me, I would not make an intense use of it. It's more like -when my phone battery runs out, I still have my watch. But ye when the battery runs out the watch becomes a rock. So I should consider battery life of: NO.1 D5+, FINOW X5 PLUS and LEMFO LEM5 (my 3 choices for now). Do you have any of them?
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No i don't have those. I have a Q1, LEM4 (sold it recently) and DM368(LF16). And i'm about to sell them all and i will probably wait for the android wear 2.0 smartwatches (although i kinda like the full android type of watches). I did a lot of searching and internet browsing before i bought my watches. And spend a lot of time tweaking them (also rooting them). But as a said, the battery life is a bit of a party crasher for me. I'm looking for a smartwatch that can replace my smartphone on some days. The LEM4 came close, but it's not a very appealing smartwatch, and the Android 4.4 version that i bought (android 5.1 is also available) had a very small app installation partition.
My perfect smartwatch isn't out there yet...
froggerman said:
No i don't have those. I have a Q1, LEM4 (sold it recently) and DM368(LF16). And i'm about to sell them all and i will probably wait for the android wear 2.0 smartwatches (although i kinda like the full android type of watches). I did a lot of searching and internet browsing before i bought my watches. And spend a lot of time tweaking them (also rooting them). But as a said, the battery life is a bit of a party crasher for me. I'm looking for a smartwatch that can replace my smartphone on some days. The LEM4 came close, but it's not a very appealing smartwatch, and the Android 4.4 version that i bought (android 5.1 is also available) had a very small app installation partition.
My perfect smartwatch isn't out there yet...
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I see, since this would be my first smartwatch ever, I will get the NO.1 D5+ I think cause i like the band and the hardware is really powerful for the price. Who knows, maybe one day i will try one with android wear 2.0 like you. Thanks
I had had Samsung watches and still have my Active 2. I just got a Ticwatch Pro 3 and I love the watch but WearOS watch faces has a very terrible selection. Can't find a good basic Military Time with Zulu and Julian all on the same face. Tizen offers a few. What gives with Wear OS. Seems to be just a bunch of toy faces to me.
I think I might go for a Watch 4 instead. Love the TicWatch but don't care for the watch face selection. Maybe try a watch face maker? Most I see get not so good reviews.
Rant Over. LOL