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Every four minutes really...
I am an electrical engineer, with 9 years experience in the field of PCB layout, design, and programming.
I have information to share which is valuable to this community. I guess I will share it in a few days when its relevance has diminished.

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Every four minutes really...
I am an electrical engineer, with 9 years experience in the field of PCB layout, design, and programming.
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Here is my third post, yay, 7 to go before I can get to my point!

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You can guess my point though if you search the title of this thread. There is a youtube video which I will link in 6 posts which I find fascinating.
This smart watch has android, is inexpensive, has a pulse monitor, and "e-ink" screen. I wanted to know if it is any good. It has the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 but is much thinner 9.5 mm.
Thoughts?

No SIM or WiFi, 320mAh battery. Android 4.2.
I'm sure it's a good piece for those that prefer notifies. I guess someone will have to buy it and test it.

simple1i said:
No SIM or WiFi, 320mAh battery. Android 4.2.
I'm sure it's a good piece for those that prefer notifies. I guess someone will have to buy it and test it.
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Yeah no SIM sucks, or WiFi, no Compass, no GPS. But it does have Bluetooth 4.0/2.0 whatever that is... anyone know if that is a mistranslated 4.2?
That is a small battery true 320mAh but that possibly leads to the lighter weight, lower height of the watch which is 9.5mm thick.
It does have Android 4.3 actually, and it uses the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 which is already ported. It only has 512 megs rom and 512 megs ram, which will be a problem for adding apps, that right there is almost enough to kill it.
The big thing it does have is.
Pulse Monitor
E-Ink Background, it switches between e-ink and TFT seamlessly, there is a youtube video that makes me want to buy this watch.
Run time is 7 days on paper, while displaying time 100% of the time using e-ink (very cool)
It has android so it can be upgraded at some point by the ppl in this forum!!!
If there is something similar / better out there for the same money let me know before I buy this one! I am leaning toward this one mainly because it is so thin, its actually thinner than the apple watch (10.5mm)

vanionbb said:
Yeah no SIM sucks, or WiFi, no Compass, no GPS. But it does have Bluetooth 4.0/2.0 whatever that is... anyone know if that is a mistranslated 4.2?
That is a small battery true 320mAh but that possibly leads to the lighter weight, lower height of the watch which is 9.5mm thick.
It does have Android 4.3 actually, and it uses the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 which is already ported. It only has 512 megs rom and 512 megs ram, which will be a problem for adding apps, that right there is almost enough to kill it.
The big thing it does have is.
Pulse Monitor
E-Ink Background, it switches between e-ink and TFT seamlessly, there is a youtube video that makes me want to buy this watch.
Run time is 7 days on paper, while displaying time 100% of the time using e-ink (very cool)
It has android so it can be upgraded at some point by the ppl in this forum!!!
If there is something similar / better out there for the same money let me know before I buy this one! I am leaning toward this one mainly because it is so thin, its actually thinner than the apple watch (10.5mm)
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So, there is the Reedone X1 which is interesting but does not have the low power e-ink TFT thing going for it. I like the specs but dont like the 11mm thickness and lack of e-ink TFT.
Reedone website shows the Reedone X2 (there would be a link here, but you have to find it yourself because reasons!) The Reedone X2 is the same watch as the X2 Smartwatch from IQI, with same pictures and stats.

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So, there is the Reedone X1 which is interesting but does not have the low power e-ink TFT thing going for it. I like the specs but dont like the 11mm thickness and lack of e-ink TFT.
Reedone website shows the Reedone X2 (there would be a link here, but you have to find it yourself because reasons!) The Reedone X2 is the same watch as the X2 Smartwatch from IQI, with same pictures and stats.
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a smart watch then?

This looks the same as GearBest are selling as Atongm WO13 http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_166847.html and has the same display as he MiMi Mi-W3/Podoor PW305II http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_139964.html
I looked at this a few weeks ago but could see no advantages over the Mi-W3 I already own plus the following disadvantages:
Not waterproof - the MiMi is IP67 rated.
Much larger in height.
Proprietary charging cradle - what is the point when it isn't waterproof and uses exposed electrodes? Just something else to lose or break.
Edited to add: The BT 4.0/2.0 is because it uses a dual module that connects with either 2.0 or 4.0 protocols dependent on the device it is connecting to.

Pseud O'Nym said:
This looks the same as GearBest are selling as Atongm WO13 http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_166847.html and has the same display as he MiMi Mi-W3/Podoor PW305II http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_139964.html
I looked at this a few weeks ago but could see no advantages over the Mi-W3 I already own plus the following disadvantages:
Not waterproof - the MiMi is IP67 rated.
Much larger in height.
Proprietary charging cradle - what is the point when it isn't waterproof and uses exposed electrodes? Just something else to lose or break.
Edited to add: The BT 4.0/2.0 is because it uses a dual module that connects with either 2.0 or 4.0 protocols dependent on the device it is connecting to.
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I have been researching this over the past day.
It appears to be sold under 3 different brands
As Antogm W013 through gearbest,, geekbuying, lightinthebox, everbuying/dealsmachine, coolicool/efoxshop, Ebay and Aliexpress - but no stainless version
As IQI X2 on Aliexpress
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...32324780280.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.tnhc0X
As Simptech X2 on Lightinthebox and Aliexpress -
http://www.lightinthebox.com/simpte...kers-waterproof-for-andriod-ios_p2863209.html
Cheapest I found was mobile version of aliexpress for $72 (simptech version)
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32334308627.html?spm=2114.32010308.0.47.u2PDkj
There are two videos on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-_uypACBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJO-_JkKDGc
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).

sambutler86 said:
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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I don't believe it is Android based, apart from the splash screen there is nothing in the videos or adverts to suggest that it is. As it uses an Ingenics XBurst CPU I would guess it uses a version of their MIPS compiled Linux.

Although on Pandawill and Geekbuying, it clearly states Android 4.3 as the OS. Also, didn't the smart Q run on the same JZ4775 chip and run Android? i'll check with all the china shops tommorow and see what they say about the OS.

LightInTheBox says Android too, I was just going on the videos and screenshots, neither of which look like any Android I've seen, but of course it could be heavily customised.

Read the reviews of the NO.1 G2. Doesn't sound like a good buy. I'd definitely wait to see what the S7ler or others reviews have to say about the Sun.

maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?

JarlSX said:
maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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Thats what I'm thinking. I'll check with them both later today and see.

sambutler86 said:
I have been researching this over the past day.
It appears to be sold under 3 different brands
As Antogm W013 through gearbest,, geekbuying, lightinthebox, everbuying/dealsmachine, coolicool/efoxshop, Ebay and Aliexpress - but no stainless version
As IQI X2 on Aliexpress
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...32324780280.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.tnhc0X
As Simptech X2 on Lightinthebox and Aliexpress -
http://www.lightinthebox.com/simpte...kers-waterproof-for-andriod-ios_p2863209.html
Cheapest I found was mobile version of aliexpress for $72 (simptech version)
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32334308627.html?spm=2114.32010308.0.47.u2PDkj
There are two videos on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-_uypACBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJO-_JkKDGc
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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I saw a video of the No. 1 S2 and the screen goes to the edges and beyond. I saw lettering go past the screen, which looks glitchy. I was tempted because of how slick it looks but they didn't do any work on switching the square scene to a round screen.

JarlSX said:
maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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Geekbuying claims it has Android 4.3 on it....but still not 100% convinced.

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parrotgeek1 said:
Yes, It does. that video shows the Android boot animation, plus Android is the only OS JZ4775 supports.
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I am torn between this one and the Reedone HG-X1.
ISI X2 :
72.08 - Lowest Price
TFT Screen, Heart Rate Monitor, Pedometer, etc...
Reedone HG-X1:
80.99 - Lowest Price (black plastic?) at
Same as ISI X2
+GPS
+Waterproof
+Built in USB Connector
- 1mm thicker at dial
They are very similar. I have not seen a video on the Reedone yet though.
Any thoughts on these? Do they actually run Android? Would android gear be portable to these?

Watch geek, new to smartwatches -HALP!

Loved watches all my life, and want a smartwatch so I can flip through all the different faces. That's all I'm interested in...for now. So, some questions that'll seem dumb to most of you:
1. I want faces like Rolex, Breitling, Omega, etc., so that means a round smartwatch.
2. My phone is an LG V10 running Android 6.0 and stock Verizon ROM.
3. What's the difference between cheap Bluetooth watches in the $50 range on eBay, and a smartwatch? (Or are they the same thing?)
4. Programs in the Google Play store like Watch Faces for Android and Watchmaker seem pretty attractive to me in that they simplify things for guys like me. (I've found a lot of the luxury watch faces I want already in the WF for Android catalog, and installed them on the widget on my phone).
I'm on the fence as to whether I get a black watch or stainless, (so, knowing me, I'll prolly get two!) :laugh: And remember, I'm buying for the sole, express purpose of having numerous choices in watch faces. All the other gadgetry in a smartwatch is, to me, meh. Maybe I'll use it, maybe I'll grow into it, I really don't know.
Help me find a watch that suits me, please?
Thanks, folks!
Donny

Ok, let me put it another way. Which chipset or operating system, (besides Android Wear, which is too expensive), is easiest to add custom watch faces?

sixbennetts said:
Ok, let me put it another way. Which chipset or operating system, (besides Android Wear, which is too expensive), is easiest to add custom watch faces?
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By considering only ease of installation and the availability of custom watchfaces, the best choice is on the following "full Android" round smartwatches:
- No.1 D5 or his twin Finow X1
- K9 or Finow X3
- Finow X5
They all share the same watchface engine, easy to use and with an already big number of custom watchfaces available.
You can get an idea by looking at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sma...es/clockskin-extracted-1-d5-firmware-t3295297
Or even better, following this G+ community:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109827242607524552712

if you can buy the D5 the x5 the k9 the i2 the z9 the s99 i would if i could i love watches as you if not more

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By considering only ease of installation and the availability of custom watchfaces, the best choice is on the following "full Android" round smartwatches:
- No.1 D5 or his twin Finow X1
- K9 or Finow X3
- Finow X5
They all share the same watchface engine, easy to use and with an already big number of custom watchfaces available.
You can get an idea by looking at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sma...es/clockskin-extracted-1-d5-firmware-t3295297
Or even better, following this G+ community:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109827242607524552712
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This helps immensely, Cyrux. Thanks! Now, when you say they're full Android, you don't mean Android Wear, right? And can you just roughly describe the process, please? Is it like other devices, (phones, tablets, etc), where it's as simple connecting to a PC and drag/dropping files?
Once I've chosen a watch and have it home, I'll obviously do my due diligence and read, read, read! I promise.
And thanks again.

sixbennetts said:
This helps immensely, Cyrux. Thanks! Now, when you say they're full Android, you don't mean Android Wear, right? And can you just roughly describe the process, please? Is it like other devices, (phones, tablets, etc), where it's as simple connecting to a PC and drag/dropping files?
Once I've chosen a watch and have it home, I'll obviously do my due diligence and read, read, read! I promise.
And thanks again.
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These smartwatches are like wrist smartphone, with an user interface optimized for their mini display and you can do almost everything you can do with an Android smartphone.

Please advise - Finow X5 vs. K9

Hello,
I am looking to buy a Smartwatch. I saw very good reviews of the Moto 360 1st gen (good price too) but I have small wrists so it would look huge on me. I recently stumbled upon Finow X5 and No. 1 D5 (and G4) but since they are not as popular I couldn't find as much information... Now I just found another one - K9 3G. That's why I am seeking your help. Which one should I go for? It saw that No. 1 tends to look weird on the hand, so for me now is mostly down to X5 vs K9. I don't know if the X1 / X3 models of Finow are worth over X5.
I am open to any smartwatch suggestions in the budget of £100-150, which means I also consider the Moto 360 2nd gen (42mm), but there are so many options in this market, I am just confused.
Also, I will plan to use the Smartwatch with no SIM inside (who uses a sim with that anyway? I need it in my phone), I live in the UK and I got an Android phone with 5.1. Will i be able to get full functionality out of the above models?
If you can drop your 2 cents here, I would greatly appreciate.

If you can afford it moto 360 2nd gen especially if it's for watch faces as they are much easier to install over the full Android watches. Android wear is a bit like Apple it just works well and more apps come out daily.
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snake65 said:
If you can afford it moto 360 2nd gen especially if it's for watch faces as they are much easier to install over the full Android watches. Android wear is a bit like Apple it just works well and more apps come out daily.
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Thanks for the reply. Sorry for being such a noob, Finow devices don't use android wear? So if they use stock android, there might be some advantages in that too I guess.
You would say Moto 2nd gen 42mm over Finow X5 for functionality? Cause regarding design, Moto has that little black strip unfortunately, a bit of turn off)

I had the Moto 360 1st gen and loved it but wanted something more powerful. Don't get me wrong from what I've seen here the finow is exceptional value for money , I have an i2 but stuck at bootloader and waiting on the arrival of the kw88, but you need to look around and read for yourself.
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The 2nd gen Moto 360 has appalling battery life apparently, which is a thing to be wary of. I'd love for the Chinese manufacturers to up their game when it comes to companion watches, I understand the advantages of a standalone, but I think they've underestimated what a large market segment they could tap into by pressuring the mainstream brands (I also understand this is down to Google licensing of android wear, but what happened to AWC? Shows there are workarounds?).
That said, watches like the X5 etc. Show massive potential, the Ticwatch 2 looks very interesting as well.
PS. Just to add that Motorola's customer service and repair centres are woeful also if you're in the UK

letrix42 said:
Thanks for the reply. Sorry for being such a noob, Finow devices don't use android wear? So if they use stock android, there might be some advantages in that too I guess.
You would say Moto 2nd gen 42mm over Finow X5 for functionality? Cause regarding design, Moto has that little black strip unfortunately, a bit of turn off)
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Take a look here - https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109827242607524552712
We have done a lot of work with these devices and when it comes to custom watch faces the X5, X3 (which is the same as K9) and X1 (same as D5) is a fantastic watch.
It is really a stand alone watch at the moment though. It takes a sim card and works exactly like a mobile phone.

pablo11 said:
Take a look here - https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109827242607524552712
We have done a lot of work with these devices and when it comes to custom watch faces the X5, X3 (which is the same as K9) and X1 (same as D5) is a fantastic watch.
It is really a stand alone watch at the moment though. It takes a sim card and works exactly like a mobile phone.
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Wow, just awesome!! Finow X5 looks like a great great device. I see you know what you are talking about, so maybe you can help me out a little.
My main concern is that I won't be able to get the most out of my Finow if I don't use it with its own SIM - and really, who would ditch the phone over a smart watch? I can only think how much you lose: web browsing with ease on bigger screen, private phone calls (you keep it to your ear, not on speaker), writing messages a lot easier, photos/videos on decent screen etc.
Will I be able to do the following with the X5?
- get notifications from the phone on the watch (SMS, Emails, Whatsapp, Facebook)
- disable notifications / reply to messages received on phone with the X5
- accept calls from the watch (again, no SIM inside, call received on the phone)
Also, is the Moto360 (2nd gen, 42mm) more limited compared to the Finow X5 from other points of views? Will I be able to load any watchface on the Moto 360, as I see we are able to do with the X5? Will I be better off using a SIM in my phone and one in my X5? Does the X5 communicate with my smartphone whatsoever - do they share any notifications?

letrix42 said:
Wow, just awesome!! Finow X5 looks like a great great device. I see you know what you are talking about, so maybe you can help me out a little.
My main concern is that I won't be able to get the most out of my Finow if I don't use it with its own SIM - and really, who would ditch the phone over a smart watch? I can only think how much you lose: web browsing with ease on bigger screen, private phone calls (you keep it to your ear, not on speaker), writing messages a lot easier, photos/videos on decent screen etc.
Will I be able to do the following with the X5?
- get notifications from the phone on the watch (SMS, Emails, Whatsapp, Facebook)
- disable notifications / reply to messages received on phone with the X5
- accept calls from the watch (again, no SIM inside, call received on the phone)
Also, is the Moto360 (2nd gen, 42mm) more limited compared to the Finow X5 from other points of views? Will I be able to load any watchface on the Moto 360, as I see we are able to do with the X5? Will I be better off using a SIM in my phone and one in my X5? Does the X5 communicate with my smartphone whatsoever - do they share any notifications?
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To be honest - looking at your list of requirements - I would suggest Android Wear.
All you really want is a companion watch - these X5 etc etc are stand alone.
Not good for pairing with phones - although some people do manage to work through it with app like M2D and similar

pablo11 said:
To be honest - looking at your list of requirements - I would suggest Android Wear.
All you really want is a companion watch - these X5 etc etc are stand alone.
Not good for pairing with phones - although some people do manage to work through it with app like M2D and similar
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Well I will definitely take the X5 over Android Wear if I could get paring to work too. The no flat tire display just looks better. Can you please tell me which are, in your opinion, the 1-2 major functionalities of X5 over Android Wear (Moto 360) and one major downside?
And hold on a minute, I got an idea. What if I put my SIM in the X5 and use this M2D app on the phone to get notification from the watch on the phone. Will that improve the communication between the devices? I mainly use my phone for browsing on a big screen (over WiFi, no SIM use), taking pictures (no SIM use) and making calls (SIM use). So how do you cope with phone calls on the speaker of the X5? Aren't you concerned about other people hearing the person you are speaking to / the quality of the X5 microphone?
Honestly, I incline more for the X5 at this point, but I still want to clarify the above points before making a decision. Thank you so much Pablo!

letrix42 said:
Well I will definitely take the X5 over Android Wear if I could get paring to work too. The no flat tire display just looks better. Can you please tell me which are, in your opinion, the 1-2 major functionalities of X5 over Android Wear (Moto 360) and one major downside?
And hold on a minute, I got an idea. What if I put my SIM in the X5 and use this M2D app on the phone to get notification from the watch on the phone. Will that improve the communication between the devices? I mainly use my phone for browsing on a big screen (over WiFi, no SIM use), taking pictures (no SIM use) and making calls (SIM use). So how do you cope with phone calls on the speaker of the X5? Aren't you concerned about other people hearing the person you are speaking to / the quality of the X5 microphone?
Honestly, I incline more for the X5 at this point, but I still want to clarify the above points before making a decision. Thank you so much Pablo!
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As far as a companion, Wear is a much better choice. Of Wear, skip the 360 and get the original LG (square). You can find the LG for as little as $50 these days. And even though the LG might not look cool to you, it has the same CPU, RAM, storage and features the Asus, LG R and many others.
In a X5 vs Wear;
Readability of the font- Wear (the UI is designed for smartwatches)
Notification interaction- Wear (X5 requires third party apps for notification interactions)
Notification logs- X5
Wearable Apps- Wear (while limited in features, all apps for Wear are designed for smaller screens)
Voice Commands- Wear
Navigation- tie
Remote music and camera control- Wear
Phonecalls on watch from phone- neither work
Phonecalls on watch (no phone)- X5 *requires a SIM in the watch* (but about 2 hours is the best you will get)
Custom watchfaces- Wear has something like 100,000, X5 couple hundred
Watchface features- Wear, by a long shot if you use WatchMaker
Battery life- As a companion using BT, same
The best way to look at this is Wear is designed to be a companion out of the box. The X5 (D5, K9, etc) are tiny little phones for your wrist with tiny little batteries, and not really designed to be a full companion device.

Lokifish Marz said:
As far as a companion, Wear is a much better choice. Of Wear, skip the 360 and get the original LG (square). You can find the LG for as little as $50 these days. And even though the LG might not look cool to you, it has the same CPU, RAM, storage and features the Asus, LG R and many others.
In a X5 vs Wear;
Readability of the font- Wear (the UI is designed for smartwatches)
Notification interaction- Wear (X5 requires third party apps for notification interactions)
Notification logs- X5
Wearable Apps- Wear (while limited in features, all apps for Wear are designed for smaller screens)
Voice Commands- Wear
Navigation- tie
Remote music and camera control- Wear
Phonecalls on watch from phone- neither work
Phonecalls on watch (no phone)- X5 *requires a SIM in the watch* (but about 2 hours is the best you will get)
Custom watchfaces- Wear has something like 100,000, X5 couple hundred
Watchface features- Wear, by a long shot if you use WatchMaker
Battery life- As a companion using BT, same
The best way to look at this is Wear is designed to be a companion out of the box. The X5 (D5, K9, etc) are tiny little phones for your wrist with tiny little batteries, and not really designed to be a full companion device.
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Alright, I just bought a second hand LG Urbane W150 in good condition for $130. I hope I made the right choice, looking for your opinion. I didn't go for the square LG cause I don't like the design... and the Moto 360 has that flat tire on the bottom that I don't like.

The new Lemfo Lem X

Check this new Android Smartwatch from Lemfo go AliExpress Lemfo store or google it for Lemfo Lem X just I will give some of the specifications; design like the Lem 7 but removable straps, 2.03 inches full around Amoled display, the SoC mtk6739 with power VR GPU, 1/16 Gb, Bluetooth 4.2 , 4G capability , better camera and Android 7.1, but not Bluetooth calling feature, to bad.
It’s in presell right now .
Bigger is better

Once again, AliExpress is a bit sloppy with the details.
From the "Item Specifics": battery 450mAh, camera 5MP
From the "Product Description": battery 900 mAh, camera 8MP.
Which is correct?

900Mah and the price went down

The watch looks promising but I do not trust the render pictures. On official pictures the Lem7 is almost bezelless but in reality there is a big bezel. If the watch has also such a bezel and a 2inch screen it will be huge...

If it’s like that I will cancel the order, I don’t think that they will do like that because the Lem 7 has a lot feedback about it, will see

I bought one on pre sale. Specs are really good! Can’t wait!! Game changer compared to other watches!
Replaceable straps, nice resolution, big screen, nice cpu. Like it!

Bstard said:
I bought one on pre sale. Specs are really good! Can’t wait!! Game changer compared to other watches!
Replaceable straps, nice resolution, big screen, nice cpu. Like it!
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Ip67 waterproof,900Mah battery capacity , but maybe if you notices its going to have the flat tire,but small,because is the resolution is 640 x 590 just 48 for full around i believe so????
https://www.omnicalculator.com/othe...ght_res:640,width_res:590,diag_size:2.03!inch
428.8ppi density
one more other things no buttons so i am wandering , beside the red one on the left side,maybe power on/off

Think the button is a “home button” have to wait for a review on youtube for real life experience. All we got now is the rendered images from alieexpress(photoshopped)
But it’s only 140 euro. So worth a gamble

Didn’t get the flat tire remark, but you are right, comes due to the resolution. Hopefully there are some nice dials, so it won’t be that obvious.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nXmzvZ6twn4

No bad the video good idea, they replay couples of my messages and the flat tire it’s there.

look a this the first video of the Lem X
https://youtu.be/GjAjX0ctHMQ

https://www.xiaomitoday.com/lemfo-lem-x-review
But looks nice. Guy in the video got thin arms. Or the watch is enormous

Bstard said:
https://youtu.be/GjAjX0ctHMQ
Oops, didn’t see your post
But looks nice. Guy in the video got thin arms. Or the watch is enormous
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yeah thats what i said is a monster device in RASC forums roundandroidsmartwatched proboard,go over there be a member nice peoples,but remember those chinese peoples have smaller wrist. you know the style is identical to the moto 360

Why do they never implement NFC payments?!
Such great specs, but for lack of NFC. I know QR code payments are the most common in China, but why not add this feature and broaden the appeal of the watch?
I'm not familiar with these smartwatches - from the description it appears that you can install apps from the Play store... is this correct?

LEM X question
Any one know the strap size?
Who every has one, want are you getting on the average for battery life?

not in market yet, we will know everything after august 28
First look
https://youtu.be/w5qd5MBhB6o

ac25kV said:
Such great specs, but for lack of NFC. I know QR code payments are the most common in China, but why not add this feature and broaden the appeal of the watch?
I'm not familiar with these smartwatches - from the description it appears that you can install apps from the Play store... is this correct?
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This companies, not being racist or anything, they think of the market margins....2 billion people/customers in China vs, what, about 700 million in Europe. That's how Huawei started and that's why they toped Samsung on sales.
There are more people that can afford a £100 watch then a £300 one.
It won't cost more to add NFC and Bluetooth calling but it takes time to implement the software feature and to sort the bugs, as all the developers on this site will know.
This componies there are about quantity and new models as soon as possible.
What they do is watch the big companies watch/phone tech leaks and they will try to implement them first. 1 penny plus 1 penny makes 8.7 trillion $.

Lemfo lem x screen bubble
I just got my watch and like it but I seem to have a type of air bubble in the top left of the screen, has anyone else had this and if so can I fix or do I need a replacement.
Cheers

kukuchobi said:
I just got my watch and like it but I seem to have a type of air bubble in the top left of the screen, has anyone else had this and if so can I fix or do I need a replacement.
Cheers
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There should be No Air bubble. Post a Screen shot.

Linux on TicWatch Pro?

I m interested in Linux watch. I cam across the TicWatch Pro 2020.
I compaired the specifications of the PinePhone, the PineTime and the TicWatch Pro:
The PinePhone uses an Allwinner A64 processor, which has four Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 1.152GHz and a Mali-400 MP2 GPU. Its frame and case cover is made of plastic. It contains a 5 megapixel back camera and a 2 megapixel front camera and a USB-C port with USB 2.0 that supports DisplayPort alt-mode
PineTime Smartwatch
Display: IPS capacitive touchscreen, 1.3 inches (240 x 240 resolution)
Communication: Bluetooth 5 Low Energy.
Sensors: Accelerometer and Heart Rate Sensor.
Battery: LiPo 170-180 mAh.
CPU: 64MHz ARM Cortex-M4F.
SoC: NORDIC Semiconductor nRF52832 (or nRF52840)
TicWatch Pro 2020 specifications
Processor: Qualcomm Snapdragon Wear 2100
Display: 1.39 inches AMOLED with 400x400 pixels resolution Gorilla Glass 3
Operating system: Google Wear OS
RAM: 1GB
Storage: 4GB internal storage
Bands: 22mm leather/silicone hybrid
Connectivity: Bluetooth 4.2 LE, 801.11 b/g/n WiFi, GPS/Galileo/GLONASS/Beidou, NFC
Sensors: Accelerometer, Heart Rate Sensor, Gyro Sensor, Geomagnetic Sensor, Ambient Light Sensor
Rugged ratings: IP68 dust/water resistant rating and MIL-STD 810G shock resistance
Battery: 415 mAh non-removable
Dimensions: 45 x 45 x 12.6mm and 222 grams
Colors: Shadow Black and Liquid Metal Silver
There is custom ROM for the TicWatch Pro available. It is quiet advanced with currently 402 pages:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/rom-kernel-t3821013
The TicWatch Pro has a touch display, and it should be possible to run Linux on Android Wear on it, With such an advanced custom ROM, it should also be possible to access the watch buttons and control those from Linux.
With the current PineTime, it is not possible in an easy way to implement a Linux sports watch:
https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?...e+computer
with the Ticwatch Pro and Linux on Android, it would be easier.
Linux on Android wear:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rjvs4aFS5g
I started this discussion also in the PineTime forum:
https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=11570
and there is also a discussion on hackaday:
https://hackaday.com/2019/10/07/ask-hackaday-whats-the-perfect-hacker-smart-watch/

Someone already tried to install Linux Postmarked OS on the Tickwatch Pro:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sm.../wip-postmarketos-development-thread-t4149253

In terms of Ticwatch, the Pro 3 has just been annouced based on the Wear 4100 so that will be much more powerful and capable as a device as well.

Ticwatch Pro with wear 4100 with more power and longer battery life from octobre 1th. 2020, that sounds exciting, and it is worth waiting for.

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Ticwatch Pro with wear 4100 with more power and longer battery life from octobre 1th. 2020, that sounds exciting, and it is worth waiting for.
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For sure,
I have ordered it from their website and am excited for it to arrive. I've been watching / reading all the reviews and by all accounts its actually a smoothly operating watch out of the box on Wear OS without needing to be rooted and tweaked. That is before the Fall Wear OS update which is focusing on performance and stability which should make it better.
For this context of putting Linux on it, it just gives you a much more powerful platform to build on.

Happy that the Ticwatch Pro is updated regularly. For me personally, it is the most promising watch to run Linux on it. There are several options available for the Pinephone which sould also on a Linux Ticwatch Pro to make a professional sports watch out of it:
https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=10172&highlight=ble+bike+computer

Youtube always knows what I'm interested in the most. Today Youtube showed me a new review of the Ticwatch Pro with Snapdragon 4100:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byc-ERIcgK4
The reviewer says it is the most useful smartwatch to this date. It is a review of the new model with four separate optical sensors units, with twelve sensors. It shows what is possible to this date, and shows what Garmin watch users only can dream about. I dream about a flagship smartwatch with Linux, which is fully user configurable. I hope you too.

Only few are currently interested in a Linux Ticwatch Pro watch. But don't forget John Lennons words in "imagine":
"You, you may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you will join us
And the world will live as one"

Peter Gamma said:
Only few are currently interested in a Linux Ticwatch Pro watch. But don't forget John Lennons words in "imagine":
"You, you may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you will join us
And the world will live as one"
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I wish my TWP 4G would even work right to try and put Linux on it

I'm sorry for you. I hope your wish comes true and your TWP 4G will work again to put Linux on it, so thal all our dreams can come true.

Peter Gamma said:
I'm sorry for you. I hope your wish comes true and your TWP 4G will work again to put Linux on it, so thal all our dreams can come true.
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Doubt it I need the stock firmware and I can't find it anywhere

Did you see this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVcu8fEJ0pU&t=167s
I did not go trough it completely, but you should be able to download the stock ROM somewhere.

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Did you see this?
&t=167s
I did not go trough it completely, but you should be able to download the stock ROM somewhere.
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Lol yes that's the ROM I'm trying to get off of. Waiting for the OP to post said stock images he may have. Thank you for even looking, appreciated.

Peter Gamma said:
Youtube always knows what I'm interested in the most. Today Youtube showed me a new review of the Ticwatch Pro with Snapdragon 4100:
The reviewer says it is the most useful smartwatch to this date. It is a review of the new model with four separate optical sensors units, with twelve sensors. It shows what is possible to this date, and shows what Garmin watch users only can dream about. I dream about a flagship smartwatch with Linux, which is fully user configurable. I hope you too.
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Yeah I've seen that review.
I got my shipping notification last night and should have my phone arriving on Wednesday by the end of the day.
I'm not sure if I'm going to root it but one thing I'm seeing is that if possible, you should keep a backup of the original stock ROM before doing anything to customise it.
This will be my first smart watch so not sure of the procedure but I'm guessing once there is a twrp IMG, we would fastboot boot it, take a backup of the ROM and then save it externally on computer and cloud just in case?
If it's working from pogo sticks for the charger (as opposed to microUSB or USB C) I wonder if it can be connected to the computer for data transfer and if it can, how fast/ slow that would be?
Sent from my OnePlus 7 Pro using XDA Labs

Is there no option to download the stock ROM?
I’m happy to find here friends interested in the project of Linux on Ticwatch Pro. After many years of using Garmin watches, and not being able to access the sensor data in an easy way, after all of my feature requests where ignored by Garmin, for instance the option to be able to use the watch while charging, after all of my posts about a tool which would allow easy access to sensor data where deteted in the Garmin forum, after my Garmin account was inactivated completely after criticism about post deletion, I gave up these trials. I’ m currently using the android application a training tracker:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atrainingtracker
but it is quiet uncomfortable to import .csv data every day into a database software. I probably will change soon to Matlab. After many posts in the Matlab forum, Matlab finally gave in and added Bluetooth low energy support for sports sensors:
https://ch.mathworks.com/help/matlab/import_export/collect-data-from-fitness-monitoring-devices.html
Matlab has all the options I need. But who wants to carry around a laptop for sporting activities? I became interested in the Linux PinePhone, and there was good support in the Pine64 community which advised me what could be done with the Linux Pinephone.
The Pinetime which was promoted as a Linux Pinephone companion was not the device I’m looking for, since it does not allow an easy way to add external Bluetooth low energy sensors.
The time is here for a real Linux watch, and all sports watch options which run on the Pinephone should also run on a Linux Ticwatch Pro.
I’m not in a hurry to realize all these options, but still I’m very interested the development of the PinePhone an a Linux TicWatch Pro. Sports watch sensors have become my daily companions, and I suppose they will be companions for the rest of my life. Therefore I’m watching carefully the development in this field, and I’m happy to find here new friends who are sharing with me a passion for a Linux Ticwatch pro:good:.

Just a heads up that my watch arrived this morning.
First impressions are really positive although I've never used a Wear OS or other smart watch before so don't really have a baseline for comparison.
It's not too heavy given the weight that has been shaved off, it's not too bulky (now looks like a normal bulky watch) and it's pretty smooth.
Excited to see what Google's upcoming update can do for this watch and what happens with custom ROM development!
Sent from my OnePlus 7 Pro using XDA Labs

rav101 said:
Just a heads up that my watch arrived this morning.
First impressions are really positive although I've never used a Wear OS or other smart watch before so don't really have a baseline for comparison.
It's not too heavy given the weight that has been shaved off, it's not too bulky (now looks like a normal bulky watch) and it's pretty smooth.
Excited to see what Google's upcoming update can do for this watch and what happens with custom ROM development!
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That is a phat looking watch!!!!!!

There are many new reviews on youtube for the new snapdraon 4100 Ticwatch pro. I recommend also this review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZUm4c6zp5Q
but for my personally, all these feature become really interesting when they can be fully controlled by the user, for instance in combination with sensor data streaming to an MQTT brocker, etc.
There are so many smartwatches available with similar features. But would a Linux smartwatch which is fully user configurable not make sense the most? Having Python libraries and all the options of desktop developement tools, would that not be wonderful?

Peter Gamma said:
There are many new reviews on youtube for the new snapdraon 4100 Ticwatch pro. I recommend also this review:
but for my personally, all these feature become really interesting when they can be fully controlled by the user, for instance in combination with sensor data streaming to an MQTT brocker, etc.
There are so many smartwatches available with similar features. But would a Linux smartwatch which is fully user configurable not make sense the most? Having Python libraries and all the options of desktop developement tools, would that not be wonderful?
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Is this 4G also?

No, its is not 4G. But the reviewer made a ranking of the smartwatches, if I got it wright it is about speed, and the snapdragon 4100 is at the second position, which is great. For Linux I would choose the fastest Ticwatch Pro with the biggest RAM memory.