Atoto A6 or Dasaita HA2100-V600 - Opinions please - Android Head-Units
Hello eveyone. I'm looking for a new 7" universal Android head unit. I've narrowed it down to the non-physical button model because I like the flush look. I had it narrowed down to the Atoto A6 until I found the XDA forum. I've read that the Dasaita may have a little better support and that the HA2100-V600 may be a little brighter. And now, I've found the Dasaita with 4GB of RAM. I Think this could be useful in the future.
I've spend hours reading all 84 pages of the MCU update forum that has spanned over the past 7 to 9 months. During that period, there were several reports of problems with the Dasaita Blue tooth, GPS and other things. However, the people still seem to stand behind their brand. Are the problems with the Dasaita as bad as it sounds, or is it just a few people having these problems?
I like the idea of the Atoto A6 having Dual Bluetooth. This will allow me to Pair with my phone and the OBDII adapter at the same time. None of the other head units mention this. I keep reading that these units are basically the same, so it seems that they all should be able to do this. But I don't know if they do. Any one have a Dasaita HA2100 that can verify it? Could it be an Android 7.1 feature? The Atoto also has the external wireless antenna and multiple USB outlets, one of which is 2 amp for quick phone charging.
If anyone has either of these models and wants to elaborate on what they like about it (or don't like), I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for your help.
The Atoto is one of the few that uses a MediaTek SoC instead of a Rockchip or Intel Sofia. That means for right now, there's no community support.
I've got the 2gb touch-only version, had it since just before Christmas. It's reasonably responsive (think 2012-2013 high-end tablet/phone responsive), it gets really bright (I'm in Florida with a sunroof and non-tinted windows, never had a problem seeing the screen), colors are a bit muted but viewing angles are good. 2 second boot is true, it comes alive very fast, backup camera activates quickly.
Dual BT was the main selling point for me, and it works as advertised, phone is paired for phone/contacts/media, OBD2 is paired, and phone is can paired again for BT tethering. BT tethering works decent, there's plenty of bandwidth for running Maps/Waze while streaming Spotify, but you'll of course want to switch back to WiFi tethering/hotspot for video streaming or even installing apps from the Play Store.
The microSD card slot works well, I've use a NTFS formatted 128gb SanDisk with no issues. The "fast charge" USB connector puts out just under 2a, so it does charge quicker than most, but still no comparison to an QC 2, 3, or Power Delivery charger. That same USB port is the only USB 2.0 port, the other two USB ports (on one dongle) are USB 1.1
The combination of on-device and external microphones seems to work well enough for voice activation and calling (my callers say I sound fine, no worse than any other speakerphone). Google Assistant does NOT work on this device (or just about any tablet for that matter), but Google Now/Voice Search does work, along with OK Google voice detection. (and OK Waze detection if you're Wazing).
I've only had one crash, and that may have been a launcher problem, or a Spotify problem as much as an Atoto problem.
Audio quality is good, with a half-decent EQ, fader/balance controls, loudness. Power is lacking, so you'll want to run this through an amp.
Steering wheel interface works (though I needed both a PAC CANBUS harness/box, and at PAC SW-1 RC to make them work). Pro-tip if you go with the PAC stuff, program the SW-1 as a Pioneer, and then use the Kenwood wire (instead of the 3.5mm plug) to Key + on the A6. There's also no provision on the A6 for dual button mapping, you get one function per button (some units allow for double press or long press for more options).
Wifi reception is solid, the included remote antenna is the key to this (mine is mounted on the edge of my windshield, partially tucked under the headliner, and practically invisible.
GPS reception is also very good, I almost always get 10+ satellites and quick locks.
So far, so good.
But...the A6 has three big problems.
The first is that the distance between the outer glass screen with the touch layer, and the actual LCD is pretty wide, and that causes parallax issues, where you touch on the glass doesn't match up with the screen, especially annoying with small buttons and hamburger menus. The physical button version doesn't seem to have this issue, because the touch screen and the LCD are closer (at the cost of having the whole display inset and not flush.). If I had to do it over, I'd opt for the PB model.
The second issue is that there's always some electronic noise heard when the unit is powered up, similar to putting a mobile phone next to speakers, and it varies with CPU load and Wifi activity. You don't notice it when music is playing but if there's a pause (or you pause), there it is again. Doesn't seem to be affected by volume settings though.
The last major issue (and there's maybe a fix coming for this in the next firmware update from Atoto) is that when the device has been off for more than oh, ten minutes, when it comes back on, it automatically loads the AM/FM tuner and plays. Which is annoying enough on its own (the FM tuner app is hideous, for one thing), but for some reason, the volume from the tuner is 2x the volume of MP3, internet streaming, or BT streaming music, so if you were rocking out even just a little when you parked the car, when you get back, your eardrums will be bleeding from the FM blast. So far, nobody has figured a way to disable the FM app, it's part of the system, and tied to the MCU.
Overall, I'm not unhappy with the A6, since I went into it knowing that all the Chindroid head units are flawed...but for $179 (Lightning deal), I figured it was worth the risk.
Croak said:
The Atoto is one of the few that uses a MediaTek SoC instead of a Rockchip or Intel Sofia. That means for right now, there's no community support.
I've got the 2gb touch-only version, had it since just before Christmas. It's reasonably responsive (think 2012-2013 high-end tablet/phone responsive), it gets really bright (I'm in Florida with a sunroof and non-tinted windows, never had a problem seeing the screen), colors are a bit muted but viewing angles are good. 2 second boot is true, it comes alive very fast, backup camera activates quickly.
Dual BT was the main selling point for me, and it works as advertised, phone is paired for phone/contacts/media, OBD2 is paired, and phone is can paired again for BT tethering. BT tethering works decent, there's plenty of bandwidth for running Maps/Waze while streaming Spotify, but you'll of course want to switch back to WiFi tethering/hotspot for video streaming or even installing apps from the Play Store.
The microSD card slot works well, I've use a NTFS formatted 128gb SanDisk with no issues. The "fast charge" USB connector puts out just under 2a, so it does charge quicker than most, but still no comparison to an QC 2, 3, or Power Delivery charger. That same USB port is the only USB 2.0 port, the other two USB ports (on one dongle) are USB 1.1
The combination of on-device and external microphones seems to work well enough for voice activation and calling (my callers say I sound fine, no worse than any other speakerphone). Google Assistant does NOT work on this device (or just about any tablet for that matter), but Google Now/Voice Search does work, along with OK Google voice detection. (and OK Waze detection if you're Wazing).
I've only had one crash, and that may have been a launcher problem, or a Spotify problem as much as an Atoto problem.
Audio quality is good, with a half-decent EQ, fader/balance controls, loudness. Power is lacking, so you'll want to run this through an amp.
Steering wheel interface works (though I needed both a PAC CANBUS harness/box, and at PAC SW-1 RC to make them work). Pro-tip if you go with the PAC stuff, program the SW-1 as a Pioneer, and then use the Kenwood wire (instead of the 3.5mm plug) to Key + on the A6. There's also no provision on the A6 for dual button mapping, you get one function per button (some units allow for double press or long press for more options).
Wifi reception is solid, the included remote antenna is the key to this (mine is mounted on the edge of my windshield, partially tucked under the headliner, and practically invisible.
GPS reception is also very good, I almost always get 10+ satellites and quick locks.
So far, so good.
But...the A6 has three big problems.
The first is that the distance between the outer glass screen with the touch layer, and the actual LCD is pretty wide, and that causes parallax issues, where you touch on the glass doesn't match up with the screen, especially annoying with small buttons and hamburger menus. The physical button version doesn't seem to have this issue, because the touch screen and the LCD are closer (at the cost of having the whole display inset and not flush.). If I had to do it over, I'd opt for the PB model.
The second issue is that there's always some electronic noise heard when the unit is powered up, similar to putting a mobile phone next to speakers, and it varies with CPU load and Wifi activity. You don't notice it when music is playing but if there's a pause (or you pause), there it is again. Doesn't seem to be affected by volume settings though.
The last major issue (and there's maybe a fix coming for this in the next firmware update from Atoto) is that when the device has been off for more than oh, ten minutes, when it comes back on, it automatically loads the AM/FM tuner and plays. Which is annoying enough on its own (the FM tuner app is hideous, for one thing), but for some reason, the volume from the tuner is 2x the volume of MP3, internet streaming, or BT streaming music, so if you were rocking out even just a little when you parked the car, when you get back, your eardrums will be bleeding from the FM blast. So far, nobody has figured a way to disable the FM app, it's part of the system, and tied to the MCU.
Overall, I'm not unhappy with the A6, since I went into it knowing that all the Chindroid head units are flawed...but for $179 (Lightning deal), I figured it was worth the risk.
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Thank you, that is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. I had read about the radio coming on with each startup. I'm glad you said something about the touchscreen. The flush screen was one of the selling points for me, but if the actual lcd is still recessed, I may go for the PB. Prices have skyrocketed since just before Christmas.
On the Dasaita, I had asked if the 4GB HA2100-V600 they have on Aliexpress would be updated to Android 7.1 (it's currently Android 6.0). They told me that unit would not be able to run Android 7.1 because of hardware incompatibility issues. He said they had an Android 8.0 unit with 4GB RAM if I wanted to pay the Price. I didn't even ask how much because the 6.0 unit was already at the upper price range I want to spend for one of these. However, Hot Audio is saying they are working on a 8.0 upgrade for the HA2100 and it should be out any time now. Who Do I Believe? I feel pretty sure the android 6.0 unit will be upgraded since there are several other brands already running 7.1. Anybody?
Thing about the flush screen/body is that most car kits end up making the whole thing recessed anyway. PB version wouldn't have looked any worse, and it would have operated a bit better. Also, turns out the PB model is a much more recent hardware revision, released in November, whereas the touch-only model came out almost six months earlier.
Here's a shot of mine using a Schoshe double-din mounting kit.
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Does the Dasaita HA2100 have dual BT? I'm in the same position as OP - I currently have a Joying 2GB unit and it's a pain to BT tether (still not reliable after root). The Atoto A6 blog says there is a pro version coming by Feb 2018 end with "hand gestures recognition control", whatever that means. http://www.myatoto.com/index.php?m=...FjAFegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw0vQxQJxnoYd_2loGxiT1vf
Till then I'm looking at the Atoto A6 a61721p.
Great ATOTO using experience.
Croak said:
The Atoto is one of the few that uses a MediaTek SoC instead of a Rockchip or Intel Sofia. That means for right now, there's no community support.
I've got the 2gb touch-only version, had it since just before Christmas. It's reasonably responsive (think 2012-2013 high-end tablet/phone responsive), it gets really bright (I'm in Florida with a sunroof and non-tinted windows, never had a problem seeing the screen), colors are a bit muted but viewing angles are good. 2 second boot is true, it comes alive very fast, backup camera activates quickly.
Dual BT was the main selling point for me, and it works as advertised, phone is paired for phone/contacts/media, OBD2 is paired, and phone is can paired again for BT tethering. BT tethering works decent, there's plenty of bandwidth for running Maps/Waze while streaming Spotify, but you'll of course want to switch back to WiFi tethering/hotspot for video streaming or even installing apps from the Play Store.
The microSD card slot works well, I've use a NTFS formatted 128gb SanDisk with no issues. The "fast charge" USB connector puts out just under 2a, so it does charge quicker than most, but still no comparison to an QC 2, 3, or Power Delivery charger. That same USB port is the only USB 2.0 port, the other two USB ports (on one dongle) are USB 1.1
The combination of on-device and external microphones seems to work well enough for voice activation and calling (my callers say I sound fine, no worse than any other speakerphone). Google Assistant does NOT work on this device (or just about any tablet for that matter), but Google Now/Voice Search does work, along with OK Google voice detection. (and OK Waze detection if you're Wazing).
I've only had one crash, and that may have been a launcher problem, or a Spotify problem as much as an Atoto problem.
Audio quality is good, with a half-decent EQ, fader/balance controls, loudness. Power is lacking, so you'll want to run this through an amp.
Steering wheel interface works (though I needed both a PAC CANBUS harness/box, and at PAC SW-1 RC to make them work). Pro-tip if you go with the PAC stuff, program the SW-1 as a Pioneer, and then use the Kenwood wire (instead of the 3.5mm plug) to Key + on the A6. There's also no provision on the A6 for dual button mapping, you get one function per button (some units allow for double press or long press for more options).
Wifi reception is solid, the included remote antenna is the key to this (mine is mounted on the edge of my windshield, partially tucked under the headliner, and practically invisible.
GPS reception is also very good, I almost always get 10+ satellites and quick locks.
So far, so good.
But...the A6 has three big problems.
The first is that the distance between the outer glass screen with the touch layer, and the actual LCD is pretty wide, and that causes parallax issues, where you touch on the glass doesn't match up with the screen, especially annoying with small buttons and hamburger menus. The physical button version doesn't seem to have this issue, because the touch screen and the LCD are closer (at the cost of having the whole display inset and not flush.). If I had to do it over, I'd opt for the PB model.
The second issue is that there's always some electronic noise heard when the unit is powered up, similar to putting a mobile phone next to speakers, and it varies with CPU load and Wifi activity. You don't notice it when music is playing but if there's a pause (or you pause), there it is again. Doesn't seem to be affected by volume settings though.
The last major issue (and there's maybe a fix coming for this in the next firmware update from Atoto) is that when the device has been off for more than oh, ten minutes, when it comes back on, it automatically loads the AM/FM tuner and plays. Which is annoying enough on its own (the FM tuner app is hideous, for one thing), but for some reason, the volume from the tuner is 2x the volume of MP3, internet streaming, or BT streaming music, so if you were rocking out even just a little when you parked the car, when you get back, your eardrums will be bleeding from the FM blast. So far, nobody has figured a way to disable the FM app, it's part of the system, and tied to the MCU.
Overall, I'm not unhappy with the A6, since I went into it knowing that all the Chindroid head units are flawed...but for $179 (Lightning deal), I figured it was worth the risk.
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Thanks a lot for your honest reivew. After find your honest using feedback, I placed the Order for one ATOTO product: A62721PB. It seems like their products is hot-sale. There are just left 3 to sell now. So lucky for me to find this great Chinese head unit. However, I am not so lucky enough to catch their lightning deal. So I paid $249.:crying::crying::crying:
Anyway, I am very happy with ATOTO product. I noticed that you pointed out an using issue: radio automatically turn on. Based on my experience, please make sure you exit our radio, turn off the car then turn on car, the radio will not showing up. If the radio still turning on after the car is on, please open AUX then exit it. I am sure you will solve the problem.
I also have the same problem. I know it is a nuisance. So I registered on their support website and found this way. Hope it will help you. What's more, I have sent mail to their support team, they feedback to me the same method within 1 hours. I had to say: They have a great and professional support team. I will get another ATOTO product for my GF.
bluemind497 said:
Thanks a lot for your honest reivew. After find your honest using feedback, I placed the Order for one ATOTO product: A62721PB. It seems like their products is hot-sale. There are just left 3 to sell now. So lucky for me to find this great Chinese head unit. However, I am not so lucky enough to catch their lightning deal. So I paid $249.:crying::crying::crying:
Anyway, I am very happy with ATOTO product. I noticed that you pointed out an using issue: radio automatically turn on. Based on my experience, please make sure you exit our radio, turn off the car then turn on car, the radio will not showing up. If the radio still turning on after the car is on, please open AUX then exit it. I am sure you will solve the problem.
I also have the same problem. I know it is a nuisance. So I registered on their support website and found this way. Hope it will help you. What's more, I have sent mail to their support team, they feedback to me the same method within 1 hours. I had to say: They have a great and professional support team. I will get another ATOTO product for my GF.
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The trick with switching to AUX and exiting does not work on my unit.
But I've found a fix and it will work 100% of the time. I'm arranging a return of the Atoto unit with Amazon. The radio issue is not something I can live with, having to do half a dozen button presses when starting the car, I may as well use a mobile phone.
Also, if the radio does not get turned on at startup, the MCU isn't initialized, which means there's no audio, no backup camera, etc. My return period expires in a week, and I have no faith that Atoto will fix this before then, so I'm returning it, and finding a different unit. I'll take a look at Atoto again with their next generation of units, they're on the right track, but they're not there yet.
There is supposed to be a "pro" version coming out before March, which will include hand gestures control. ATOTO support says you'll be able to control the unit without touching the screen/steering wheel. I'm guessing the price for the current premium version will go down so I'm going to wait. If you find another unit with dial Bluetooth or easy tethering let us know pls.
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car_dude_123 said:
There is supposed to be a "pro" version coming out before March, which will include hand gestures control. ATOTO support says you'll be able to control the unit without touching the screen/steering wheel. I'm guessing the price for the current premium version will go down so I'm going to wait. If you find another unit with dial Bluetooth or easy tethering let us know pls.
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Sounds great! I will buy the next version. Hope they can give me some discounts! Let's waiting!
Just got an email from ATOTO - new model coming in March. I'm waiting...
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I own a Dasaita HA2100A-V600.
I own a Dasaita HA2100A-V600. It differs from the HA2100-V600. It has a capacitive home button, lacks a micro sd slot, and is 178mm wide. The dasaita is not compatible with Bluetooth game pads nor my obdlink mx obd2 scanner. I suspect that the ATOTO A6 is compatible with these BT accessories. I had to use the much cheaper and faster usb obdlink sx on my dasaita. Honestly, if dasaita makes a direct fit product for your car, it is more economical than getting a dash kit, canbus to analog converter for reverse trigger and (retained) accessory power, in addition to steering wheel control adapter. Dasaita units have built in canbus capabilities where ATOTO units do not. Dasaita doesn't make a direct fit for the Ford Focus MK3. If I were to do it all over again. I would've gone with the Atoto unit from the start, only because fitment of an ATOTO 173mm unit has to be easier than the larger Dasaita units.
Croak said:
The Atoto is one of the few that uses a MediaTek SoC instead of a Rockchip or Intel Sofia. That means for right now, there's no community support.
But...the A6 has three big problems.
The first is that the distance between the outer glass screen with the touch layer, and the actual LCD is pretty wide, and that causes parallax issues, where you touch on the glass doesn't match up with the screen, especially annoying with small buttons and hamburger menus. The physical button version doesn't seem to have this issue, because the touch screen and the LCD are closer (at the cost of having the whole display inset and not flush.). If I had to do it over, I'd opt for the PB model.
The second issue is that there's always some electronic noise heard when the unit is powered up, similar to putting a mobile phone next to speakers, and it varies with CPU load and Wifi activity. You don't notice it when music is playing but if there's a pause (or you pause), there it is again. Doesn't seem to be affected by volume settings though.
The last major issue (and there's maybe a fix coming for this in the next firmware update from Atoto) is that when the device has been off for more than oh, ten minutes, when it comes back on, it automatically loads the AM/FM tuner and plays. Which is annoying enough on its own (the FM tuner app is hideous, for one thing), but for some reason, the volume from the tuner is 2x the volume of MP3, internet streaming, or BT streaming music, so if you were rocking out even just a little when you parked the car, when you get back, your eardrums will be bleeding from the FM blast. So far, nobody has figured a way to disable the FM app, it's part of the system, and tied to the MCU.
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Actually, full root and a custom recovery is available for this now. As for custom roms and stuff, nothing for that right now. My unit is fully rooted but I have not yet installed TWRP custom recovery as its not something I am going to be using at the moment. FlashFire is working just fine for my needs.
I will address your issues number 2 and number 3.
As for the "electrical noise" when powered up or when no sound is present, I am not experiencing that what so ever. Make sure you have good solid ground. If you are using a PAC device (You mentioned that earlier about the steering wheel controls), make sure its not the PAC device its self causing the problem. I am using the PAC RP5-GM11 in my 2004 Chevy Tahoe and there is zero electrical noise/hiss what so ever.
As for the radio always turning on, that I will agree with, it is super annoying as is the SD card or anything other than the radio, playing at what seem like half volume that the radio plays at. The best way to stop the radio from playing when you first turn on your car/power, is to turn off the head unit with the power button before you remove power/turn off your key. Now when you turn the car back on, the head unit is off and you will have to turn it back on. But be ready to turn the volume down if you had it up pretty high when you turned off the unit.
Myself, other than the clunky factory UI/Launcher and the radio issue I mentioned and the quoted post, that are my only real issues but far from deal breakers for me. The launcher is easy, just install a different one. And now that my unit is rooted, its just a little bit better for me. Overall, after 2 months now, I am very happy with mine so far.
I have installed the Atoto A6Y2721PB on my 2017 Honda Accord Sport. I am having an issue with the ASWC-1. I have updated both firmwares to the most recent versions. When I go to program the Steering Wheel Controls through the Atoto system, it is only recognizing no more than 3 of the buttons on the Steering Wheel. Right now it is configured for Pioneer/Jensen as that is what Atoto Customer Service recommended. However, the only buttons recognized are Volume Up, Seek forward, and Seek Backward. It does not recognize volume down, source, or any of the lower buttons: Pick Up Phone, Hang Up Phone/Back, or Voice Command. I tried every brand available on the ASWC-1 manual stereo program, as well as the Auto stereo program, and some recognize the source and volume down buttons, but none recognize the lower (Pick Up Phone, Hang Up Phone/Back, or Voice Command) buttons. I have tried wiring the Atoto to the 3.5mm female multiple ways as well, sometimes different buttons will work, but no more than 3. I am not getting any errors while setting up the ASWC-1, I get the 7 Green LED blinks, and the Red Solid LED as well. Any ideas or recommendations?
This is installed with the Metra 99-7804 kit for my vehicle.
Any update? How is the unit after 6 months? Is the radio turn off problem better now?
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Any update? How is the unit after 6 months? Is the radio turn off problem better now?
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Firmware update in early February made it a tiny bit less annoying, in that the "Aux trick" works more reliably. But you still have to frequently manually select AUX after starting the car, or you get either no audio using speaker wire output or muted audio with no onboard controls (fader/balance, EQ, SWC etc) if using RCA outputs to an external amp. There's been no firmware updates since then.
Also, on mine, the backup camera stopped working in late January. Atoto sent me a replacement camera/harness, still not working. Reverse trigger works (it mutes audio when in reverse) and the dedicated camera power and ground connections in my car meter out correct, but it gets no signal from the camera...even took both cameras to an audio shop, and they both work on the shop's test devices, so it's something in the input side of the Atoto that went bad. And yes, I installed a relay on the PAC harness, so it's not the 1 amp limitation that's causing the problem.
Updating apps from the Play Store is painfully slow...it's not a bandwidth issue, it's once the app update has finished downloading, it takes many, many minutes for the update to process. Things like Waze or Maps can take 20 minutes to update AFTER downloading.
Finally, the biggest reason I went with the A6 in the first place, dual Bluetooth for tethering, is a feature I ended up not using much after the first month, because I have an in-car hotspot now, and don't need to tether my phone for data.
But other than that, it's working mostly fine for what I use it for, which is Waze, MP3, Spotify, with CarWebGuru as the launcher. And, it only cost me $179 for the unit itself. Still looking for that "great" double-din universal Android head unit, but at this point, I'm probably just going to go with a 2018 model major brand head unit with capacitive display and Wireless Android Auto (the Alpine HALO9 unit looks very interesting).
As soon as I saw MediaTek.....
Keep away.
Perfect, thanks for this. I ordered the 2 gig Physical button, 239 minus the 15 clipon off amazon. I also ordered the steer wheeling control (even though I don't really like the way it looks but I care more that it's made and seems to work for it), a highly rated backup camera for $25 and the Atoto Bluetooth OBD2 reader.
This is for a 2005 Hyundai Elantra, which I already have the Scorsche DoubleDin kit and the Metric Harness.
I'm particularly excited because there has always been this huge gap in tech between my home life and my car. I've spent the last 3 years using a bluetooth headset as my audio source from my phone. (audiobooks mainly, physical control buttons on headset). Though I could never get my S7 Edge to root I should be able to use one of the paid tethering apps of the playstore hopefully. (I want faster speeds than BT tether - I "watch" a lot of information videos on Youtube that are more or less audio productions.
Always use a PX cpu. never go for mediatek or allwinner unless you cannot fint a PX unit.
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Umecity (VW): Allwinner T3, 2GB/16GB, 6.0.1, 1024x600, Shallow 2DIN [2017/04]
Just picked up what appears to be a newly designed (or redesigned) Volkswagen headunit using the Allwinner T3 Quadcore from Umecity. I didn't see any threads matching the hardware listed, so I thought I'd start a discussion thread for it. The unit I purchased is only a few centimeters deep, and seems to use several upgraded ICs (radio and amp, specifically). The images of the system indicate a hardware date of March 31st, 2017 (printed on the board), and a system date of April 10th, 2017.
Product Link: Umecity Allwinner T3
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CPU: Allwinner T3 Quad-Core, 1.6GHZ
MEMORY: 2GB DDR3 / 16GB
GPU: DUAL Mali 400*400MHZ
RADIO: TDA7786 IC (Not 6624)
AMPLIFIER: TDA7851 IC (Not 7388)
[SIZE="+1"]FACTORY FIRMWARE[/SIZE]
OS: Android 6.0.1 (Marshmallow)
MCU: T5.3.19-145-10-C06101-170413, SYSTEM: V8.2.1_20170410.135936_JP1
MCU: T5.3.EQ-145-13-C06101-170417, SYSTEM: V8.2.1_20170410.135936_JP1
2017-06-21 Firmware/MCU Update
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Extra Settings password: 123456
Developer & Factory reset password: 7890
FIRST IMPRESSIONS
This is probably one of the nicest car stereo designs I've seen. Very thin and light, with what look to be well thought out button placement for a 9" unit (capacitive buttons in the bottom bezel). The unit was well packed, and arrived in good shape with no damage. The vendor has also been super responsive and helpful.
INSTALL COMMENTARY
The unit is incredibly shallow, giving you way more space for cabling. Unfortunately, it didn't come with any documentation, or even a wiring diagram. Luckily, most of the connections are pretty obvious.
The combined the VW ISO1, and ISO2 connector harness is a nasty spaghetti cable, but manageable with some careful sorting, and zip ties. If you use CANBUS, don't connect the orange power connector to your ISO of choice. This will make the stereo not shut off when the car does.
USAGE REVIEW
Startup time: Took about 30 seconds from no power to radio on the first boot. Unit will stay in standby for up to an hour, then power down to preserve battery.
Responsiveness: Touch screen and capacitive hardware buttons are very responsive.
Display Quality: Screen is super clear and bright, with good viewing angles. Brightness and panel lights come up or down based on the headlights.
GPS: GPS found lock after only a few seconds.
Wireless: Wireless range could be stronger. That said, the unit did eventually see my home AP from the street and connected with 2 bars.
ISSUES WITH UNIT
Fender Audio: Individual audio channels are way too loud. Listening to car on volume 3-4 starts to get painful. Volume control goes up to 40 or so.
Can't install Android Auto through the Play Store directly. Will need to be side loaded.
Please post screenshots of how Waze looks on this unit. I have an unit from them, generally happy with it but since last FW update, they made the fonts in apps smaller, i'm waiting for them to revert to previous settings...DPI/PPI, whatever..
zerozoneice said: Please post screenshots of how Waze looks on this unit. I have an unit from them, generally happy with it but since last FW update, they made the fonts in apps smaller, i'm waiting for them to revert to previous settings...DPI/PPI, whatever.. Click to expand... Click to collapse Will do. Is your unit one of the updated models? Which system firmware date are you running? I'm curious if this is a wholly new unit, or compatible with some of the older models.
Rottgrub said: Will do. Is your unit one of the updated models? Which system firmware date are you running? I'm curious if this is a wholly new unit, or compatible with some of the older models. Click to expand... Click to collapse Check HERE
Okay, cool. Looks like you have the earlier hardware, before the refresh. Is that a full depth unit?
Hi, how does it support steering wheel control buttons?
Updated with unbox, first impressions, and install notes.
did you get the antenna amplifier in the box or you bought on your own? that connector should clamp to the exposed end of the 12V blue wire after you take the cap off. I guess not to make an old fashioned wire knot out of it...use isolation tape anyway to cover the connection. yes, mine is a full depth unit, but not that deep compared to others. ---------- Post added at 11:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:02 AM ---------- thanhvx said: Hi, how does it support steering wheel control buttons? Click to expand... Click to collapse if you have VW/Skoda/Audi and use canbus, more or less all chinese stuff recognize and use the wheel buttons out of the box. left button block controls the unit, while right button block controls the MFD. usually default pre-installed apps (radio/music) work perfect, volume being a global thing anyway, but some 3rd party players have probs with the fwd/rev prev/next buttons and therefore u need to script it.
zerozoneice said: did you get the antenna amplifier in the box or you bought on your own? that connector should clamp to the exposed end of the 12V blue wire after you take the cap off. I guess not to make an old fashioned wire knot out of it...use isolation tape anyway to cover the connection. yes, mine is a full depth unit, but not that deep compared to others. Click to expand... Click to collapse I mentioned I needed a dual pole antenna connector, so they sent the antenna amplifier with the unit. It's nicely made, but the connector kinda threw me. I verified with the vendor, and it just needs to be cut off and patched to the ANT CONT line, like I suspected. I have to say, this vendor is totally on the ball with responses. Just wish they hadn't included this dumb ISO1/ISO2 cable. It's really messing with my OCD. I should have some info on the running unit tomorrow with any luck.
i'm curious how do you find it compared to the 9" Joying which imho make the best units at the moment. Both functionality-wise and look of the UI.
zerozoneice said: ---------- Post added at 11:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:02 AM ---------- if you have VW/Skoda/Audi and use canbus, more or less all chinese stuff recognize and use the wheel buttons out of the box. left button block controls the unit, while right button block controls the MFD. usually default pre-installed apps (radio/music) work perfect, volume being a global thing anyway, but some 3rd party players have probs with the fwd/rev prev/next buttons and therefore u need to script it. Click to expand... Click to collapse Thank Zerozoneice! My vehicle is outlander 2007 with Rockford Fosgate amp. I have exactly the same problem that you have mentioned. The fwd/rev and prev/next buttons are overlapped with answer and hangup buttons - I mean when I setup buttons I press answer then unit removes fwd and so on with hangup. Im noob to swc, do you know where I can find how-to script it to solve the problem? Thank you!
Rottgrub said: Just picked up what appears to be a newly designed (or redesigned) Volkswagen headunit using the Allwinner T3 Quadcore from Umecity. I didn't see any threads matching the hardware listed, so I thought I'd start a discussion thread for it. The unit I purchased is only a few centimeters deep, and seems to use several upgraded ICs (radio and amp, specifically). The images of the system indicate a hardware date of March 31st, 2017 (printed on the board), and a system date of April 10th, 2017. Product Link: Umecity Allwinner T3 PHOTOS View attachment 4148838 View attachment 4148839 View attachment 4148840 View attachment 4148841 View attachment 4148929 [SIZE="+1"]HARDWARE SPECS[/SIZE] CPU: Allwinner T3 Quad-Core, 1.6GHZ MEMORY: 2GB DDR3 / 16GB GPU: DUAL Mali 400*400MHZ RADIO: TDA7786 IC (Not 6624) AMPLIFIER: TDA7851 IC (Not 7388) [SIZE="+1"]FACTORY FIRMWARE[/SIZE] OS: Android 6.0.1 (Marshmallow) MCU: T5.3.19-145-10-C06101-170413, SYSTEM: V8.2.1_20170410.135936_JP1 [SIZE="+1"]Advanced Settings Password: 123456[/SIZE] FIRST IMPRESSIONS This is probably one of the nicest headunit designs I've seen. Very thin and light, with what look to be well thought out button placement for a 9" unit (capacitive buttons in the bottom bezel). The unit was well packed, and arrived in good shape with no damage. The vendor has also been super responsive and helpful. INSTALL COMMENTARY In theory, installing this unit should be super simple. It's incredibly shallow, giving you way more space for cabling. Also, it's a Volkswagen quadlock connector, so there shouldn't be many cables needed. Unfortunately, I hit my first problem right out of the box. No documentation. Not even a wiring diagram to show where things get plugged in. Most of the connections are pretty obvious, but some make no sense at all since the back of the unit uses a completely custom set of ports. Complicating this, they combined the VW ISO1, and ISO2 connectors onto the same harness. This makes for a nasty spaghetti cable where half the wires aren't used, and the rest are routed into a nasty tangle. I'll probably end up cutting the ISO2 connector off, just to keep things sane. I have requested that Umecity send a ISO1 only cable to replace this mess. View attachment 4148910 So, the antenna power cable is pretty obvious, and connects to the "ANT CONT" lead, but WHY DOES IT HAVE THIS END ON IT? Makes me think it should plug into a molex harness of some sort. UPDATE: Got feedback from the vendor that the end should just be cut off, and connected to "ANT CONT" like I suspected. View attachment 4148930 Will try to get the unit installed tomorrow, and update with more/better pics, etc. Click to expand... Click to collapse It looks very nice indeed. Please post some picture when installed and powered on and comment on radio reception , audio quality and touch responsiveness.
thanhvx said: Thank Zerozoneice! My vehicle is outlander 2007 with Rockford Fosgate amp. I have exactly the same problem that you have mentioned. The fwd/rev and prev/next buttons are overlapped with answer and hangup buttons - I mean when I setup buttons I press answer then unit removes fwd and so on with hangup. Im noob to swc, do you know where I can find how-to script it to solve the problem? Thank you! Click to expand... Click to collapse no idea myself, i remember reading about it somewhere, i'll try to find a link if your unit was rk3066/3188, you could use the RK3066 HeadUnit app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.petrows.mtcservice&hl=en and is important to know what headunit you have, not just the car model
Connector layout wanted Rottgrub said: Just picked up what appears to be a newly designed (or redesigned) Volkswagen headunit using the Allwinner T3 Quadcore from Umecity. I didn't see any threads matching the hardware listed, so I thought I'd start a discussion thread for it. The unit I purchased is only a few centimeters deep, and seems to use several upgraded ICs (radio and amp, specifically). The images of the system indicate a hardware date of March 31st, 2017 (printed on the board), and a system date of April 10th, 2017. Click to expand... Click to collapse I'm interested in the same unit but with a 7" screen, it comes with an ISO cable for Toyota or one for universal use. I want the last one and asked them for the pin layout of that connector. We exchanged about 10 messages but I got no answer. They are not able or willing to provide those details. Did you get a manual with the details? If you have them can you share them with me? I'm not able to show a pic of the unit because I'm a new user. I want the pin layout of the black connector.
I have that unit installed on my VW Tiguan 2012 Sound is okay, but there is too much high frequencies if you ask me (i have weird sensation in my ears because of that hi-hat clicks in rock/metal music. Sounds much better with club music.) EQ is only 3 band, so you can't cut specific frequencies - only "bass" "mid" and "high". Tried to root with KingRoot to install ViperFX and polish sound - without any success.
zerozoneice said: i'm curious how do you find it compared to the 9" Joying which imho make the best units at the moment. Both functionality-wise and look of the UI. Click to expand... Click to collapse Sorry for the long delay in replying. After using it for a few weeks, and really getting a feel for the unit, I have to say that it stacks up well against the Joying. Both units are quick, and have a smooth interface. I think the default UI in all of these units looks like crap. One of the first things I do is swap to a custom launcher. Automate is really nice, IMHO. Joying Pros: Handles sleep properly when car is off. Unfortunately, the Umecity powers off after an hour or so. Exposes more advanced controls to the user. (This can also be a con, considering some users...) Compatible with Android Auto directly from the store. (At least when running Android 5.1.1.) Allows you to set default volume levels for things like System, Alarm, Voice, etc. Firmware is available, so you can futz about with the OS, and restore when you break it. Umecity Pros: Super small design, which makes it trivial to install, and leaves lots of room for airflow behind the unit. Capacitive hardware controls built into the bezel. Upgraded radio and amplifier chips, which helps reception, and audio quality. Simplified advanced controls, which makes configuration fairly straightforward. Firmware is unavailable, so you won't be tempted to futz about with the OS and break it. =) Things both get wrong (Ownice C500 quad as well): No HD Radio support in the US. Super shiny screen surface. Should be matte to reduce glare. Bluetooth media audio sounds terrible. No source code released.
georgebest said: It looks very nice indeed. Please post some picture when installed and powered on and comment on radio reception , audio quality and touch responsiveness. Click to expand... Click to collapse Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get any pics of the interface that didn't look like crap. I blame my camera. That said, the unit is a perfect fit for the dash on my 2015 Beetle, so I would imagine it would be the same for any other unit that uses the same style head units. The UI, and OS, was completely smooth, with no stuttering or other slowdowns, even when running multiple applications at the same time (Automate, Google Maps, PowerAmp, etc). The screen was sharp and bright. I just wish they'd gone with a matte screen. With my convertible top down, all I see is glare. (To be fair, this was also the case with the Joying 9", Ownice C500, and even the factory units.) As far as the radio goes, the unit picked up every station in my area immediately, and never seemed to wander or lose reception. I was even able to receive a low power college station all the way across town where it's usually just static. Audio quality was clear, and without distortion. Though, as mentioned in the main review, I did encounter "too much volume" problems with my Fender amped vehicle. Unfortunately, while I could adjust the volume levels with a third party application, it would reset to max volume across the board every reboot.
Hardy62 said: I have that unit installed on my VW Tiguan 2012 Sound is okay, but there is too much high frequencies if you ask me (i have weird sensation in my ears because of that hi-hat clicks in rock/metal music. Sounds much better with club music.) EQ is only 3 band, so you can't cut specific frequencies - only "bass" "mid" and "high". Tried to root with KingRoot to install ViperFX and polish sound - without any success. Click to expand... Click to collapse That's interesting. I didn't have any issue with too much high end. If anything, the sound was a little flat with defaults EQ settings, and I ended up bumping both the lows and highs a bit (The "rock" defaults actually sounded okay). Do you have the factory VW audio system, or one of the OEM amplified systems (Fender/Dynaudio)?
Frank1401s said: I'm interested in the same unit but with a 7" screen, it comes with an ISO cable for Toyota or one for universal use. I want the last one and asked them for the pin layout of that connector. We exchanged about 10 messages but I got no answer. They are not able or willing to provide those details. Did you get a manual with the details? If you have them can you share them with me? I'm not able to show a pic of the unit because I'm a new user. I want the pin layout of the black connector. Click to expand... Click to collapse Unfortunately, the unit didn't come with any wiring diagram, or manual, and the pin out that's usually printed on the unit is missing since the hardware is only 2" thick. Let me look at the connector. There is a chance it could line up with other units which use the same ISO connector... So, from what I can suss out looking at the wiring harness, this is what I have. Keep in mind that this is for the VW model, and may be entirely different from the universal. Wires are labeled with my looking into the wiring harness end, 1 is top left, 16 is bottom right. 1/2 - (white&w/stripe) Front left speaker 3/4 - (grey&w/stripe) Front right speaker 5 - (Pink) Key 1 6 - (Brown) Canbus 7 - (Red) Canbus bypass + 8 - (Black) Ground 9/10 - (Purple&w/stripe) Rear right speaker 11/12 - (Green&w/stripe) Rear left speaker 13 - (Blue) Ant Cont 14 - (Green) Key 2 15 - (Orange) Canbus bypass - 16 - (Yellow) 12v ACC
Rottgrub said: Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get any pics of the interface that didn't look like crap. I blame my camera. That said, the unit is a perfect fit for the dash on my 2015 Beetle, so I would imagine it would be the same for any other unit that uses the same style head units. The UI, and OS, was completely smooth, with no stuttering or other slowdowns, even when running multiple applications at the same time (Automate, Google Maps, PowerAmp, etc). The screen was sharp and bright. I just wish they'd gone with a matte screen. With my convertible top down, all I see is glare. (To be fair, this was also the case with the Joying 9", Ownice C500, and even the factory units.) As far as the radio goes, the unit picked up every station in my area immediately, and never seemed to wander or lose reception. I was even able to receive a low power college station all the way across town where it's usually just static. Audio quality was clear, and without distortion. Though, as mentioned in the main review, I did encounter "too much volume" problems with my Fender amped vehicle. Unfortunately, while I could adjust the volume levels with a third party application, it would reset to max volume across the board every reboot. Click to expand... Click to collapse All in all, would you say that it's better than Joying 9" Intel sofia 2gb ??
Anyone have any experience with Panlelo units?
I'm thinking about buying one of these. I need a standard universal dual din head unit to replace my old sony that is a pos. I just recently discovered android head units. My main concern is app compatibility because these come with an older version of android. I don't see any development on xda for them either. The one I'm looking at is here https://www.amazon.com/Panlelo-Android-Navigation-Steering-Control/dp/B072N85KW8
Do yourself a big favour and buy a unit with 2GB or ram. 1g will be too slow no matter what unit you get. The ones that seem to have the most support are Joying. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I agree I purchased this radio and I’m now regretting it. I was trying to be cheap and save money but I don’t think it was worth it should of paid the extra money for one with more ram. Don’t get me wrong it works but certain things lag like switching between apps and Spotify... like if I’m using radio it takes 10 seconds for Spotify to load even if it was already open.
I think I found a better alternative. Looking at Dasaita... It is a px5 octacore with 2gb ram. looks like they keep their stuff updated as well
I had the Panlelo PA09AN, it was a decent budget option, but the Play store was restrictive, it didn't let me sideload APKs, and it only had capacitive touch buttons. Which for a car from 2001 with no steering wheel controls was terrible, had to use a Wireless USB remote to skip songs and change volume while driving, not good. Also took forever to turn on, but the backup camera will switch over right away if you go in reverse, seems to be a changing video inputs rather than android handling it. Music playing through AUX would cut out when the display switched to the backup camera. Also, only allowed me to pair bluetooth to phones, wouldn't let me pair my OBDII adapter, or a Bluetooth media remote that I bought, tiny little circle with music controls that stuck to my steering wheel, great solution if it worked.... I have the Panlelo PA-012 S2 right now. It boots up really fast, like it's resuming from sleep, probably has some sort of battery. has android 6.0, Play store is wide open. PHYSICAL BUTTONS! So happy that it has a volume knob, but the other buttons have quirks... There's Home, Radio, and Navigation buttons. Each one takes forever between the press and the action actually taking place. Also, can't rebind the radio button to be any other app, kinda silly... Music from AUX continues to play when the backup camera is in use, but.. if i change the default launcher to something else, and i switch out of the AUX app, it stops playing music, very annoying. The bluetooth music app on this version is bad, it doesnt show track name, only playback controls. The other Panlelo head unit actually gave the music info. Also claims to have capatability with Bluetooth OBDII adapters, can't seem to get it to work. Overall, you get good value for the money with Panlelo, but there's a lot of usability hurdles with them... I just ordered the JOYING 7, has Android 8.0, 4GB RAM, physical volume knob (though I wish it also had physical playback buttons) Also seems to have android auto and apple carplay, very cool. we'll see how this head unit actually turns out.
I find the answers in this thread to be quite misleading. Everyone thus far has compared the cheapest and nastiest versions of the Panlelo headunit. I've got an S13, which is considered their top of the line (doesn't break your bank account), with Android 8.1 and 4gb of ram. It runs like a dream, it's faster than my Samsung Galaxy 5.
Turbine1991 said: I find the answers in this thread to be quite misleading. Everyone thus far has compared the cheapest and nastiest versions of the Panlelo headunit. I've got an S13, which is considered their top of the line (doesn't break your bank account), with Android 8.1 and 4gb of ram. It runs like a dream, it's faster than my Samsung Galaxy 5. Click to expand... Click to collapse Got the same unit, but mine is full of bugs. How did you updated to 8.1?
It came with it. Their support hasn't responded to firmware updates. Mine is full of bugs. But nothing too major. The most buggy thing is the theme - nav bad cannot be seen in some apps and the text in a few apps have white text on a white background.
Panlelo PA 09 Ciao ho bisogno di aiuto non riesco a bruciare firmware su sd card con Phoenix. Phoenixcard arriva a metà e si blocca. Io ho windows X64. Aiutatemi Lo stereo non mi va in recovery
Panlelo S10 - is it any good?
Hi guys, I know you can buy a decent head unit for $300+, but I can spend only $150. So is there any "not that bad" radio I can buy? I only want it for GPS and music playback + reverse camera. Best would be shipping from Europe, because tax here is 21% + $20 and that would ruin my wallet . I have found this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Panlelo-S10-Plus-2-Din-Android-Car-Stereo-2G-32G-7-1080P-Autoradio-Quad-Core-2din/32909908899.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.136.130d81d9nKqHaw&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_204_318_10059_10884_10887_10696_100031_10084_10083_10103_452_10618_10304_10307_10820_532_10821_10302,searchweb201603_60,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=a972cd81-c671-41c1-a8dc-9bd13b7e13a3-19&algo_pvid=a972cd81-c671-41c1-a8dc-9bd13b7e13a3&priceBeautifyAB=0 (Panlelo S10 Plus) 2 gigs of RAM, some quadcore CPU, 32GB ROM, RDS (I won't listen to a radio very often).. I only don't like sensor volume buttons, but I can live with that. What do you guys think? Or it's not worth it and I should just buy some 1 din classic and parking sensors, leaving GPS to a phone? Thanks for answers
I would say what is the worst that could happen with the device? Maybe it is useful that you inform what MCU there is and if it is mtcd mtce whatsoever. Then you can look if there is any custom ROM that you could flash to this. I prefer to have hardware buttons for volume and next back etc. But I know I can also use my steering wheel for that (which I do in 99 percent of the time) Verstuurd vanaf mijn ZUK Z2121 met Tapatalk
The worst would be it not being able to run GPS and music at the same time? Or very bad audio output? I don't know what to expect from these devices. I'm not sure if it has any microcontroller, specs says only "Allwinner quadcore 1.2 GHz". I though it was just a tablet in different body with amp. But I'm sure there will not be any custom ROM for this. I can even find many reviews. Sorry if I'm not very clear, I'm new to this.
I got the panlelo S10 plus a week ago and it's a good upgrade to the stock stereo (installed it on a Ford freestyle) -google maps GPS works great by using hotspot from my phone, I have not tried off line Gps apps -audio app for air radio stations sounds just like the stock stereo but has equilizer feature which will help it to sound better than the stock stereo, and the reception for air radio is just as the stock stereo -it will let you play music (music app, google play music, Amazon music, YouTube music) and use Google maps at the same time but you have to go to settings and whilelist the apps you want to keep running in the background after you get back to the main screen or switch to maps -it does boot up in like 2-3 secs for me -it is not standard size as the regular 2 din, you need to make sure it's going to fit, also you need to shave the sides opening for the car kits you buy for double din car installation -quality is meh, my screen has a corner lifting up, it is very small but it's there, it might be because the opening I did to the car kit plate it's making pressure on that corner. -touch screen is responsive but is plastic not glass like a phone or tablet, the specs make the stereo to be responsive when moving thru apps -screen brightness it's adequate for a car stereo, don't expect it to be like a phone - update - after connecting the illumination wire the brightness adjusts automatically down when turning on the headlights, you can set how low to go on the settings menu -I don't have a back up camera so I can't comment on that -side capacitive buttons do no light up (at least I haven't found out how to enable it or if there is a cable connection that I'm missing) so at night you won't be able to see the volume buttons, you have to rely on pulling down the notification bar to move the volume - update - my car does not have an illumination dedicated wire so I connected the stereo illumination wire to a cable that turns on the ac panel backlight and now the menu capacitive buttons light up when I switch the headlights on -I haven't play with the steering wheel controller, I haven't research my car to see how to connect them to the stereo, I installed it in a rush because I was going in a trip so I just connected the basic stuff, so far I am enjoying it a lot for this trip. - update - connected the stereo key1 cable to the car swc+ cable and the steering wheel controls worked fine after programing them on the stereo settings Overall I think is worth the $147 I paid for it, hopefully it lasts long.
Help me choose a new Android Head Unit - What I have now vs What I am looking for
Hi All - I've had a Joying Sofia 3GR head unit since March 2017. I need to replace it. I currently have a 2008 Nissan 350Z without Bose or navigation, if this helps in the discussion. I like, but certainly do not love my Sofia unit, overall the experience has gotten far, far too frustrating not to replace this head unit. So here's what I do not like about the unit, and what I'd like to fix with new hardware. 1 - Right off the bat, the unit doesn't fit into any double-din dash kits I have found for this car. I've tried Metra and Scosche kits for the 350z, and the unit is a few mm too wide and too tall for it. Given the way the Z's center stack is designed, going with a unit where the display sticks out and is wider and taller than double-din likely won't work as I only have about 10mm of wiggle room before it touches the HVAC controls or prevents me from opening the center console compartment. 2 - I'm looking for a new unit with capacitive or no buttons. My Joying unit's NAVI button mechanism has failed, so it's stuck in. In addition, the volume encoder randomly adjusts the volume without me touching it. I'll be driving and all of a sudden the volume rises quickly and drastically, I can't have that obviously, it's too large of a distraction. Ideally, I'd like to get my factory steering wheel volume controls back. This has proven difficult as the standard aftermarket steering wheel control modules in the industry are frustrating and there's little documentation about it at all, and I don't believe my car has a CANbus or anything similar. I don't want to stick a BT remote on the wheel, that's silly. 3 - GPS randomly dies completely and bringing it back is luck of the draw. If I go into the Car Settings app or any GPS utility app, it cannot reach satellites. Ever. I've tried a reboot, I've tried manual A-GPS refreshes, I've tried making sure the date/time is correct, I've tried factory resetting it. Nothing, absolutely nothing fixes it with consistency, factory resets have gotten it back sometimes, but not always, and not currently. I guess this could be hardware, I just don't know. Navigation is a big part of why I decided to get one of these units in the first place. 4 - Poor performance. I'm trying to have to interact with the unit as little as possible. I'd like to be able to quickly set the music I want to hear, or the navigation destination of my choice, and have it work as reasonably well as say, my phone does. Currently, the Sofia unit hiccups, gets stuck, crashes, sound glitches, etc often. Usually at least once a day. 5 - Poor sound quality. It just doesn't sound as good as my factory CD player did. Not even close. I was able to get it sounding great with Viper4Android, but that takes up too much CPU headroom, so everything else will glitch, heat up, etc so it's not viable. Also since the 6.0 update, I can't use the EQ function in Viper, which is a large reason of why I was able to get it sounding good previously. Does anyone have an Android unit that they love, and that actually works with consistency?
I wrote up a review here [Review] ATOTO A6 Install in Subaru WRX, but the bottom line is that i'm happy with ATOTO A6 Pro. I wont repeat the details here, but it addresses most of your needs and I was able to get the steering wheel controls working in my older car.
Audi A6 C5 Shenzhen Hualingan (HLA) brief review
Quick review of the subject unit, which is an Android 8.0 Octa Core Car DVD GPS Player For Audi A6 1997–2004 Radio Navigation unit. It is the one found on dvdplayer.c0m.cn although updated. Not too many choices for the C5 Audi A6 (1998 -- 2004 in the US), so went with this one since it looks fairly like the RNS-E I had in there previously. It's a bit too deep black, not too noticeable except when directly lit by sunlight. I bought mine through Top Navi off of eBay, quick shipping and good communication. They asked for confirmation photo of dashboard and a description of installed equipment (existing navigation, with or without Bose). Unit came set up with Bose-level outputs (between line-out and fully amplified, from what I understand) and signal to power on the amp. Also came with an antenna amplifier, which is apparently required if the vehicle has a shark-fin antenna (Maybe all VWs? Don't know for sure.) Initially my car battery was being drained overnight, which was just a bit annoying. On the Pumpkin forum, Pumpkin recommended cutting the yellow wire (always hot) to the CAN gateway, which worked. Apparently some interaction between the gateway and the vehicle CAN system prevents the car's CAN system from shutting down. I wanted the head unit to operate as much like the stock unit as possible, such as shutting down only when opening the door (key off). I found the wires running from the car's Comfort and Convenience unit to the driver's side window control panel and spliced the head unit's Aux power feed to that, rather than key-on Aux power. Radio shuts down now (soft shutdown) when the door is opened, rather then when turning off the key. (The wires are red w/ gray stripe, red connector under the footwell side cover.) I have no steering wheel buttons (It's an RS6, so no buttons), so haven't done anything else with CAN or KEY wires so far, but intend to add hard buttons for radio station change at some point -- can't stand touch screen for that type of thing. The launcher is pretty ugly, and there doesn't seem to be a way to change the Music button to launch A2DP, which I would much prefer. The unit uses an ST 7851 amplifier, and sounds every bit as good as the RNS-E (well, it's feeding the Bose amp, so no reason why it wouldn't.) Radio reception is good, no worse than the RNS-E. The screen is most often bright enough in daylight, but is low-contrast and can get washed out. the buttons feel solid. The IGO nav kept looking to the SD to finish installing, although the seller swears that it should be looking at internal storage. I deleted IGO for now, will re-download and start from scratch at some point. The internal mic works well enough, as in I'm intelligible, although apparently I sound like I'm in a small, echoe-y room. I'll hard-wire an external mic at some point. Overall, it's a pretty good unit for the money, if a bit unpolished.