It is very upsetting that the sound quality on this phone is not even close to the rich sound found on the Samsung S4 made 3 years before.
Is there anyway I can upgrade the sound chip on this phone? I mostly listen to Music on Youtube, Soundcloud and other streams.
for having the s4 also, I find the g6 much better, either via headphones or via the speaker (which is really good for a mono positioned on one side)
I selected the equalizer "QuadBeat", the sound is rich and detailed, yet my model is the h870, it does not have the quad DAC but the quality is superb
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What? You are comparing Galaxy S4 and G6? ? H870 (without quad DAC) have pretty solid DAC and AMP, and detailed test showed that even the Galaxy S8 Exynos haven't better audio chip than G6 H870 with standard DAC. Bottom firing speaker is also crispy and very detailed. Galaxy S4, oh man please don't...
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How do the speakers compare to those of the Note 2? I'm discussing in terms of both loudness and audio quality. Are there distortions at maximum volume? Is the quality comparable to the top HTC phones?
The Note 3 had some pretty lackluster speakers, and they were a downgrade compared to those of the Note 2.
On that note, will the DAC for the Qualcomm version be their integrated sound solution and the Wolfson DAC again for the Exynos versions?
Of course you know not a single one of these has been sold yet, so how can you ask a question like this?
If it's like S5 it will be louder than my z2. Let's wait and see.
I hope it's at least as good as the Note 2. I felt like the Note 3 speaker was a downgrade in the loudness department.
In that Russian review they stated the Note 4 speaker was louder then the Note 3 one.
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In that Russian review they stated the Note 4 speaker was louder then the Note 3 one.
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thats a huge achievement LOL
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How do the speakers compare to those of the Note 2? I'm discussing in terms of both loudness and audio quality. Are there distortions at maximum volume? Is the quality comparable to the top HTC phones?
The Note 3 had some pretty lackluster speakers, and they were a downgrade compared to those of the Note 2.
On that note, will the DAC for the Qualcomm version be their integrated sound solution and the Wolfson DAC again for the Exynos versions?
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I just checked out the Note 4 at a local Best Buy and I'm happy with everything, but the speaker.
It is indeed louder than the Note 3's, but not by much. It has great highs, but the midrange is tinny sounding and nowhere as full or as loud as my LG G3's speaker. I rely heavily on the speakerphone so this was a disappointment, but I'll buy the phone anyways.
It's wishful thinking on my part, but I'd like to not have to use an external DAC for my JH16's custom IEM's and instead just use the headphone out of my next phone.
Any early impressions on the SQ of the Note 4's headphone out? At least in comparison to other galaxy note/s lines or any of the iphones?
I am also very interested. I use now an LG g3 for flac files, I hope note 4 will be better.
I have used the Samsung S2, S3, S4, S5, Note, Note II, and Note 3 and the headphone output has been the same on each phone. It's not that great. IT could go way louder. I am sure the Note 4 will be untouched in this department.
I believe historically the Exynos versions have better sound quality due to the wolfson DAC.
S1 and s3 international had Wolfson Dacs. Good,very good audio. S2 was yamaha- a disappointment. Aafter that all comes with snapdragon integrated Dacs but...while sound was very clean there was better implementation on others for the same SOC. Take a look at htc one m8 sound, htc mini 2 (the best sound of any smartphone) LG G3 AND...LG PAD 7.0. All of them give better audio quality despite the fact that are using the same SOC.
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From my point of view is not that important the loudness of a headphone out but the stereo crosstalk and the noise that comes with decoding/amplification of the sound. For the power you can always add an external headphone amplifier or an external dac/amplifier. But it's much easier to have a good output from the phone itself than using external solution ( USB otg+external Dacs or external amplifier with one more cable).
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S1 and s3 international had Wolfson Dacs. Good,very good audio. S2 was yamaha- a disappointment. Aafter that all comes with snapdragon integrated Dacs but...while sound was very clean there was better implementation on others for the same SOC. Take a look at htc one m8 sound, htc mini 2 (the best sound of any smartphone) LG G3 AND...LG PAD 7.0. All of them give better audio quality despite the fact that are using the same SOC.
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From my point of view is not that important the loudness of a headphone out but the stereo crosstalk and the noise that comes with decoding/amplification of the sound. For the power you can always add an external headphone amplifier or an external dac/amplifier. But it's much easier to have a good output from the phone itself than using external solution ( USB otg+external Dacs or external amplifier with one more cable).
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Yes - However the Exynos S4, Note 3 and S5 have Wolfson DACs. This is because the exynos doesn't have built in DAC like the snapdragon, so therefore they have to use a external wolfson DAC.
I know that, I owned every one of the galaxy and note phones. It was too long to post all that. After all even the S3 has 2 editions ( exynox and snapdragon) note 3, gs5. I just hope that samsung will pay more attention to the sound quality. It could be done because htc and lg did it alredy.
It seems that we have to wait for gsmarena review to see how it is. Hope to have good news...
I remember that there was an app for rooted deviced that reconfigured the Wolfson allowing for example turning on headphones pre-amp. I used it on some tablet (Asus Transformer I think, the first one) and it was quite useful.
The Note 4 that I have is the Exynos version, and it had the Wolfson WM5110 chip in it.
Comparing it to the Note 3 Exynos, the Note 4 is noticeably better than the Note 3, had much more detail in it.
and comparing it to my friend's S5, the bass on the Note 4 is not as punchy as the S5 and S5 had a slightly warmer tone to the music but I liked the Note 4 more.
Any word if the audio chip is improved on snapdragon version??
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The GSMarena review was somewhat disappointing as far as audio goes, the results were no where near as good as the G3 or IPhone 6+.
I have both the G3 and the 6+ and in terms of music playback quality the IPhone is a bit better.
Note 3 didn't have Wolfson DAC. It was Yamaha. Galaxy S used WA, S II used Yamaha, S III used WA, S IV used SD, Yamaha, Octa Core being the only variant with WA. Note 2 was WA. Note 3 was Yamaha. Note 4 still needs confirmation, with so many models and configurations (LTE CAT 4, LTE CAT 6, HSPDA+) it's hard to know. My best guess is LTE CAT 4 model (Ericsson Modem) might get WA. All the others will be SD and Yamaha.
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Note 3 didn't have Wolfson DAC. It was Yamaha. Galaxy S used WA, S II used Yamaha, S III used WA, S IV used SD, Yamaha, Octa Core being the only variant with WA. Note 2 was WA. Note 3 was Yamaha. Note 4 still needs confirmation, with so many models and configurations (LTE CAT 4, LTE CAT 6, HSPDA+) it's hard to know. My best guess is LTE CAT 4 model (Ericsson Modem) might get WA. All the others will be SD and Yamaha.
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The CAT 6 version is also Exynos (in Korea at least). AFAIK it uses a Intel LTE modem
I was using the headsets that came with my phone yesterday and they sound pretty amazing compared to the ones that came with my Note 2. I was also surprised to see that if you record a video with the headsets plugged in, it will use the mic on the headset, which is amazing for vlogging. I didn't notice that at all on my Note 2, so I'm not sure if it's a new feature or what.
I've got the Exynos version, so I'm not sure if the headphones are the same as what you'd get in North America.
Exynos variants have WM5110. Confirmed! So yeah, good audio will be definitely there once we have a custom kernel to support the DAC AMP parameter modifications.
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Audio codec in the note 4 snapdragon 805 is the WCD 9330, S5 has the WCD 9320.
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Audio codec in the note 4 snapdragon 805 is the WCD 9330, S5 has the WCD 9320.
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Was listening to the external audio on a snapdragon version earlier ,, audio sounds louder and a bit clearer than my Note 3, not much better tho,, in fairness I was trying it in store, hardly scientific..
Apparently Note 4 doesn't have much power 0.41 volts, guess I will have to use a DAC/AMP or just double amp with my Fiio E6.
According to ifixit, I realize Galaxy S5 mini has a Wolfson WM1811AE hifi DAC in it. https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S5+Mini+Teardown/27579
S5 mini is running on Exynos 3470 processor which is the same as Tab 4 7.0 LTE (SM-T235) so I was wondering if T235 has a wolfson DAC as well? I wish i will be able to find out the audio DAC using the software method. Hopefully someone will develop a kernel with engine like voodoo sound/ boeffla sound for T235 if it is really running on wolfson WM1811AE.
Same question here.
I'm just about to replace my T230 with T235 and I'm really hoping for that Wolfson DAC. I love the deep super detailed sound it produces .
I think I've found somewhere on Wolfson web that all Exynos driven boards have Wolfson DAC, but I'm not sure now.
Anyway, T235 according to official manual has 2 mics instead of 1mic as T230, maybe this is a hint for someone with better knowledge to answer that question?
T235 sounds amazing! (like Wolfson)
OK so I've just replaced T230 with T235 (lte version).
Sound quality in T235 is amazing compared to T230, the high frequencies are most noticeable difference between these models, in T235 sound is much more deep, overall ambiance of sound is far more detailed, bass is deep and smooth.
I mean its like orgasm to my ears so it is very likely that this actually is Wolfson DAC.
With T230 I felt like there's something missing in sound.
The Exynos processor is much more powerful, UI works far more fluid - I've tested with animated wallpaper (Lattern Festival) - T230 was laggy, UI was chopping when swiping through the screens, this does not happen with T235 it is butter smooth.
T235 also has 2 mics, and vibration.
There's no problem with microphone like the one I've faced using T230 - people were not able to hear me on hangouts when I've used headphones without mic included....
There was also bugs with sound on T230 related to audio output. The problem was that when notification arrived it triggered tablet speaker, so currently applied sound effects are not supported by speaker and were turned off. This does not happen with T235, seems like there's more audio channels or something like that.
Yes, The audio sounds fantastic, but I wish we could get root on this device.
Need to enable LTE bands 4 and 17 for us stateside users.
Understand you have the 235 but wondering if anyone can comment on the SM-T235 versis the T235Y (has the Snapdragon 600)? Wondering which is faster/snappier? Any display differences? (color etc) Thanks
Hi!
I'm looking to upgrade from my ancient LG G2, and since I'm listening to music a lot (!), I am looking for a phone that could also be an upgrade in terms of audio quality. Other than that, I'm looking for 5.5 inch QHD screen, 3k+ ma/h battery, expandable storage.
Should I go ahead and buy the Edge, or would I be better off waiting for the LG V20, which is rumored to have superior audio quality?
P.S, I'm listening to MP3 files through my Beyerdynamic DX i30.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi!
I'm looking to upgrade from my ancient LG G2, and since I'm listening to music a lot (!), I am looking for a phone that could also be an upgrade in terms of audio quality. Other than that, I'm looking for 5.5 inch QHD screen, 3k+ ma/h battery, expandable storage.
Should I go ahead and buy the Edge, or would I be better off waiting for the LG V20, which is rumored to have superior audio quality?
P.S, I'm listening to MP3 files through my Beyerdynamic DX i30.
Thanks in advance!
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The S7 Exynos has a pretty good DAC. The Snapdragon version, not so much.
GSMArena tested the audio output of the S7 Edge and turned out pretty neat.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_edge-review-1409p8.php
They tested the Exynos variant (European site).
:confused...I think the audio could be better. If it could put 2 speakers in the front like the HTC would be more ideal
I previously owned HTC m7 with stereo speakers. The Samsung s7 is mono and barley ok. Use an external Bluetooth speaker work very well.
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Its not very good, very quiet in my opinion, it's a nightmare when trying to use it as a satnav
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Great with dual speaker mod
Use bt like jabra. Sound better. But not from s7 edge.
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It's "eh". Really nothing special. Not bad, but it definitely doesn't stand out. I would hold off and wait for the V20 if that's your main focus with a device.
S7 Edge has a a wolfson DAC (Exynos). Its good, but its not HTC 10 or Axon 7 good.
Just flash the soundmod and use "viper4android" and you will have a georgeous sound!
I am completely satisfied with the sound. Go for it.
I found several spec sheets that claim differently.
I understand that the SNAPDRAGON QUALCOMM Model supports Qualcomm Aptx-HD.
And Quickcharge qualcomm 3.0
that SM-G950F i dont know if supports.
nobody?
nobody?
I don't know for sure but what notice 2 days I'm having the Exynos variant is that sound quality while using my LG Tone Platinum Bluetooth stereo is better with Galaxy S8 compared to my Axon 7.
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there is a definite difference between using my aptx capable $15 bluetooth headphones vs using the supplied "$99" headphones that sound like complete crap compared to the cheap bluetooth. I'm using the exynos so im guessing something is working right.
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there is a definite difference between using my aptx capable $15 bluetooth headphones vs using the supplied "$99" headphones that sound like complete crap compared to the cheap bluetooth. I'm using the exynos so im guessing something is working right.
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Try wearing the stock / AKG headphones upside down, with the cable facing up and going behind your ear - it locks into your ear canal and boosts bass and increases isolation