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We know that Samsung has signed a multi-year contract with Wolfson, and that past phones, such as the Note 2, have used Wolfson DAC's. Now, all we know about the audio on the Note 3 is that it will be "hi-def" being 24bit and 192khz. From what I've read, this spec is for both versions of the Note 3. Now, do you all think that both the Snapdragon 800 version and the Exynos 5420 version will have a Wolfson DAC? Or will the 800 have crappy integrated qualcomm audio as the S3 did?
I've tried contacting both Samsung and Wolfson, but to no avail. As soon as any information is available on the subject, I'll update this post.
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We know that Samsung has signed a multi-year contract with Wolfson, and that past phones, such as the Note 2, have used Wolfson DAC's. Now, all we know about the audio on the Note 3 is that it will be "hi-def" being 24bit and 192khz. From what I've read, this spec is for both versions of the Note 3. Now, do you all think that both the Snapdragon 800 version and the Exynos 5420 version will have a Wolfson DAC? Or will the 800 have crappy integrated qualcomm audio as the S3 did?
I've tried contacting both Samsung and Wolfson, but to no avail. As soon as any information is available on the subject, I'll update this post.
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S800 has a the Qualcomm DAC at least from my experience with the xperia z ultra, but I might be wrong .
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hiya,
from what iv heard so far the s800 version will have the qualcom chip. I tried getting in contact with the editors from engadget who were at IFA 2013 to ask this very question &got zilch. iv tried tweeting Samsung & Sony about the audio DACs in the zperia z1 &the galaxy note 3 &u guessed it..... nothing. the person I have spoken to is a recognised Dev here at xda &he says that the sound for the note 3 will be as good as u can get, but probably for the exynos version.
I hope this helps
Guys, I have a question developed since the release of S800 devices i.e., Ultra, S4 LTE-A (and coming I9506), G2 etc which will have the audio solution that Qualcomm provides. GSMArena already praised S600 (S4 I9505) audio quality. And since the S800 is a faster and improved version of slapdragon devices I think slapdragon does not seat idle. I mean they also continue to improve their audio part. That said, should not be the difference between exynos 5 octa and a slapdragon s4/note 3 minimal?
I dont get any much response from LTE-A owners.
It is not like crappy yamaha DAC against Exynos powered Wolfson chips.
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Guys, I have a question developed since the release of S800 devices i.e., Ultra, S4 LTE-A (and coming I9506), G2 etc which will have the audio solution that Qualcomm provides. GSMArena already praised S600 (S4 I9505) audio quality. And since the S800 is a faster and improved version of slapdragon devices I think slapdragon does not seat idle. I mean they also continue to improve their audio part. That said, should not be the difference between exynos 5 octa and a slapdragon s4/note 3 minimal?
I dont get any much response from LTE-A owners.
It is not like crappy yamaha DAC against Exynos powered Wolfson chips.
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Well, it should still support that "hifi" audio, so it can't be that bad. Plus, at E3 Qualcomm was showing off the audio of the SD800 which sounded pretty damn impressive to me at the time. I don't doubt that the audio quality will be good, but I'm worried that I won't be able to use audio mods like voodoo or viper4android.
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We know that Samsung has signed a multi-year contract with Wolfson, and that past phones, such as the Note 2, have used Wolfson DAC's. Now, all we know about the audio on the Note 3 is that it will be "hi-def" being 24bit and 192khz. From what I've read, this spec is for both versions of the Note 3. Now, do you all think that both the Snapdragon 800 version and the Exynos 5420 version will have a Wolfson DAC? Or will the 800 have crappy integrated qualcomm audio as the S3 did?
I've tried contacting both Samsung and Wolfson, but to no avail. As soon as any information is available on the subject, I'll update this post.
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Whatever... all that awesome audio quality will go to waste if the phone has a crappy speaker on the back, like old Note 2.
I'm so spoiled by my Nexus 10 front facing stereo speakers.
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Whatever... all that awesome audio quality will go to waste if the phone has a crappy speaker on the back, like old Note 2.
I'm so spoiled by my Nexus 10 front facing stereo speakers.
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The speaker is on the bottom for the Note 3. But, ummm.... When people talk about audio quality, they are talking about it with headphones. Nobody expects speakers to sound like a 7.1 surround sound system on a phone.
rodrigorajao said:
Whatever... all that awesome audio quality will go to waste if the phone has a crappy speaker on the back, like old Note 2.
I'm so spoiled by my Nexus 10 front facing stereo speakers.
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LOL! Audio quality and phone/ tablet/laptop speakers! Ever heard quality stereo set up?
you know what guys.... I'm tired of all this audio chip crap, at IFA 2013 it was all about oooh display this &wow camera that, yet the bigwigs just don't bother with discussing audio. I don't know why they don't get that the reason why apple make millions on the iphone every year is because they do their audio quite well across the whole range. hell, I'd get an iPhone if it wasn't for wretched iTunes. its purely logical to assume that people will use the one item they have pretty much ALL the time as a music player rather than a video player (software permitting) isn't it? I mean who cares if you've got a 5 inch screen that can display 1080p? really? you'd have to have 21/20 vision to pick up all the tiny details anyway. but sound, that's different, different phones, even by the same company or even in the same product line seem to be miles apart in terms of audio quality. its ridiculous. &I, like a lame ass, have spent the last week trying to figure out what audio capabilities the note 3 has. more fool me. I might as well buy a decent USB DAC, connect it to my phone &let that handle all the audio. these companies are taking the mick.....
I have not listen to music on my phone since I've upgraded to the GN1.
I'm always paranoid that the power will run out on me before I get home since I listen to quite a lot of music when I'm out.
So I'm using a sansa + portable amp atm, and it's great!
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you know what guys.... I'm tired of all this audio chip crap, at IFA 2013 it was all about oooh display this &wow camera that, yet the bigwigs just don't bother with discussing audio. I don't know why they don't get that the reason why apple make millions on the iphone every year is because they do their audio quite well across the whole range. hell, I'd get an iPhone if it wasn't for wretched iTunes. its purely logical to assume that people will use the one item they have pretty much ALL the time as a music player rather than a video player (software permitting) isn't it? I mean who cares if you've got a 5 inch screen that can display 1080p? really? you'd have to have 21/20 vision to pick up all the tiny details anyway. but sound, that's different, different phones, even by the same company or even in the same product line seem to be miles apart in terms of audio quality. its ridiculous. &I, like a lame ass, have spent the last week trying to figure out what audio capabilities the note 3 has. more fool me. I might as well buy a decent USB DAC, connect it to my phone &let that handle all the audio. these companies are taking the mick.....
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If a phone is equipped with the Wolfson DAC and powered by voodoo sound and /or other tweaks, you will get one of the best sound quality, a PORTABLE device can have, including standalone portable music players .
That's what I got from my Galaxy S1 and Note 2 devices..
That could be a reason for a user to go for the exynos version of the Note3 instead of Snapdragon's...that's all
When I decide to finally purchase the Note 3, I will first take my headsets to a showroom and compare the Note 3's sound against my GNote2 among other things
Not being in a hurry to purchase yet another very expensive gadget, is a good thing ...
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betoNL said:
If a phone is equipped with the Wolfson DAC and powered by voodoo sound and /or other tweaks, you will get one of the best sound quality, a PORTABLE device can have, including standalone portable music players .
That's what I got from my Galaxy S1 and Note 2 devices..
That could be a reason for a user to go for the exynos version of the Note3 instead of Snapdragon's...that's all
When I decide to finally purchase the Note 3, I will first take my headsets to a showroom and compare the Note 3's sound against my GNote2 among other things
Not being in a hurry to purchase yet another very expensive gadget, is a good thing ...
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agreed Mr beto. I was on a serious rant that day lol. iv decided to bide my time. any phone company would be all too happy to sign me to yet another contract for another 2 years. I think I might just wait until my good old nexus one completely gives up before I use another phone. the isn't actually too bad with viper4audio lol. I don't actually think the exynos one will be available on any carrier on my country, as its only 3g enabled as far as I'm aware? the snapdragon one is lte enabled which is what the great communication gods of the united kingdom are deciding to push as hard as they can. I don't think I could afford to buy it outright. ~£700 is alot of money.... thank you for your advise anyway.
No bad choice.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p5.php
This what what GSMArena said in their latest preview of the Note 2, with their audio testing as well:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3_preview-review-986p5.php
The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 showed exceptionally clean audio output in our audio quality test. The phablet posted some of the best scores we have seen in both parts of the test and garnished them with decent volume levels. It's not the loudest we have seen, but it's loud enough for 99% of the occasions.
Impressively, there's virtually no distortion when you plug in a pair of headphones. Except for the minor bump in stereo crosstalk the output is barely affected.
And here go the results so you can see for yourselves.
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Hard to believe the DAC of the Snapdragon model can match the Wolfson one
I prefer to wait and see what Supercurio will say about it and then I will be doing my own comparisons at the showrooms.
I hope it will get close...
Here is Holland it will be much easier to get the S800.
If I decide to go for the Exynos, I will probably need to make a short trip to Germany...
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wow, if what gsmarena say is correct then Mr Barry is indeed correct..... well that means audio in all upcoming Snapdragon phones should be about on par with wolfson audio chips?..... I.e the audio in snapdragon socs should in theory get.even better? jeez, snapdragon is really pulling out all the stops..... huzzah! its about f****** time!
However.....
There is a chance the S800 will carry the Wolfson
Just found this info:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/678952/samsung-galaxy-note-3-24-bit-192khz/30#post_9816900
it looks like there may be hope yet. I'm sorry for asking but who is supercurio? I tried looking for info but I'm finding only voodoo stuff. is he like doomlord of the xperias? anyhoo, if anyone is interested I went to my local three store today to ask about the note 3. the advisor there said it should be available on three in the uk from 25th September. on a 2 year "the one plan" contract it would be £37 per month with £100 up front, I'm guessing that's for the 32gb note 3. time to raid the ol' piggy bank guys!
I hate to break it to you guys, but just having a Wolfson does nothing whatsoever to ensure high quality sound. Stated differently: having a Wolfson DAC rather than the Qualcomm DAC does not in and of itself mean one variant of the Note 3 will sound better than the other.
Because of the original Galaxy S and Voodoo Sound, Wolfson have a totally irrational following amongst Android users. Don't get me wrong, Wolfson make great DACs, but the DAC in a device is only part of the equation - how it is implemented is also really important. Case in point is the LG 2x Vs the Galaxy S. Both have the same DAC, only even with Voodoo Sound the Galaxy S has incomparably better sound quality (as measured and heard by Supercurio). Why? Implementation. There are lots of elements that go into implementing a DAC well - RF shielding from other components (the 2x has horrible CPU noise that intrudes all over the sound), how the power supply to the DAC is governed, the output impedance of the device (which is determined by more than the DAC alone, output impedance was the main problem with the Yamaha DAC'd S2 - it was 10ohm which meant unless your headphones/earphones had an input impedance of at least 80ohms the mismatch caused wonky frequency responses, big problem given virtually all IEMs have an input impedance in the 16-50 range), and what the software layer does with sound (the Wolfson-packing S4 Octa upsamples everything to 48KHz, which negatively impacts fidelity). There are probably lots of other things I'm not aware of that have a bearing that are external to a devices DAC.
That's another reason I would never pre-order an expensive device, besides trying avoiding those abusive pre-order prices :
I like to take my time and do my own comparison tests before buying anything, disregard all that technical mambo-jambo and expert reviews.
All those sellers of the showrooms I visit, are already used with me, bringing my headsets and playing hours with different devices and comparing them.
It's fun anyway, and in the meantime, the amazing sound of my Wolfson/Voodoo/MegaBass Beats powered GNote2 will do just fine....
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It's wishful thinking on my part, but I'd like to not have to use an external DAC for my JH16's custom IEM's and instead just use the headphone out of my next phone.
Any early impressions on the SQ of the Note 4's headphone out? At least in comparison to other galaxy note/s lines or any of the iphones?
I am also very interested. I use now an LG g3 for flac files, I hope note 4 will be better.
I have used the Samsung S2, S3, S4, S5, Note, Note II, and Note 3 and the headphone output has been the same on each phone. It's not that great. IT could go way louder. I am sure the Note 4 will be untouched in this department.
I believe historically the Exynos versions have better sound quality due to the wolfson DAC.
S1 and s3 international had Wolfson Dacs. Good,very good audio. S2 was yamaha- a disappointment. Aafter that all comes with snapdragon integrated Dacs but...while sound was very clean there was better implementation on others for the same SOC. Take a look at htc one m8 sound, htc mini 2 (the best sound of any smartphone) LG G3 AND...LG PAD 7.0. All of them give better audio quality despite the fact that are using the same SOC.
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From my point of view is not that important the loudness of a headphone out but the stereo crosstalk and the noise that comes with decoding/amplification of the sound. For the power you can always add an external headphone amplifier or an external dac/amplifier. But it's much easier to have a good output from the phone itself than using external solution ( USB otg+external Dacs or external amplifier with one more cable).
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S1 and s3 international had Wolfson Dacs. Good,very good audio. S2 was yamaha- a disappointment. Aafter that all comes with snapdragon integrated Dacs but...while sound was very clean there was better implementation on others for the same SOC. Take a look at htc one m8 sound, htc mini 2 (the best sound of any smartphone) LG G3 AND...LG PAD 7.0. All of them give better audio quality despite the fact that are using the same SOC.
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From my point of view is not that important the loudness of a headphone out but the stereo crosstalk and the noise that comes with decoding/amplification of the sound. For the power you can always add an external headphone amplifier or an external dac/amplifier. But it's much easier to have a good output from the phone itself than using external solution ( USB otg+external Dacs or external amplifier with one more cable).
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Yes - However the Exynos S4, Note 3 and S5 have Wolfson DACs. This is because the exynos doesn't have built in DAC like the snapdragon, so therefore they have to use a external wolfson DAC.
I know that, I owned every one of the galaxy and note phones. It was too long to post all that. After all even the S3 has 2 editions ( exynox and snapdragon) note 3, gs5. I just hope that samsung will pay more attention to the sound quality. It could be done because htc and lg did it alredy.
It seems that we have to wait for gsmarena review to see how it is. Hope to have good news...
I remember that there was an app for rooted deviced that reconfigured the Wolfson allowing for example turning on headphones pre-amp. I used it on some tablet (Asus Transformer I think, the first one) and it was quite useful.
The Note 4 that I have is the Exynos version, and it had the Wolfson WM5110 chip in it.
Comparing it to the Note 3 Exynos, the Note 4 is noticeably better than the Note 3, had much more detail in it.
and comparing it to my friend's S5, the bass on the Note 4 is not as punchy as the S5 and S5 had a slightly warmer tone to the music but I liked the Note 4 more.
Any word if the audio chip is improved on snapdragon version??
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The GSMarena review was somewhat disappointing as far as audio goes, the results were no where near as good as the G3 or IPhone 6+.
I have both the G3 and the 6+ and in terms of music playback quality the IPhone is a bit better.
Note 3 didn't have Wolfson DAC. It was Yamaha. Galaxy S used WA, S II used Yamaha, S III used WA, S IV used SD, Yamaha, Octa Core being the only variant with WA. Note 2 was WA. Note 3 was Yamaha. Note 4 still needs confirmation, with so many models and configurations (LTE CAT 4, LTE CAT 6, HSPDA+) it's hard to know. My best guess is LTE CAT 4 model (Ericsson Modem) might get WA. All the others will be SD and Yamaha.
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Note 3 didn't have Wolfson DAC. It was Yamaha. Galaxy S used WA, S II used Yamaha, S III used WA, S IV used SD, Yamaha, Octa Core being the only variant with WA. Note 2 was WA. Note 3 was Yamaha. Note 4 still needs confirmation, with so many models and configurations (LTE CAT 4, LTE CAT 6, HSPDA+) it's hard to know. My best guess is LTE CAT 4 model (Ericsson Modem) might get WA. All the others will be SD and Yamaha.
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The CAT 6 version is also Exynos (in Korea at least). AFAIK it uses a Intel LTE modem
I was using the headsets that came with my phone yesterday and they sound pretty amazing compared to the ones that came with my Note 2. I was also surprised to see that if you record a video with the headsets plugged in, it will use the mic on the headset, which is amazing for vlogging. I didn't notice that at all on my Note 2, so I'm not sure if it's a new feature or what.
I've got the Exynos version, so I'm not sure if the headphones are the same as what you'd get in North America.
Exynos variants have WM5110. Confirmed! So yeah, good audio will be definitely there once we have a custom kernel to support the DAC AMP parameter modifications.
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Audio codec in the note 4 snapdragon 805 is the WCD 9330, S5 has the WCD 9320.
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Audio codec in the note 4 snapdragon 805 is the WCD 9330, S5 has the WCD 9320.
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Was listening to the external audio on a snapdragon version earlier ,, audio sounds louder and a bit clearer than my Note 3, not much better tho,, in fairness I was trying it in store, hardly scientific..
Apparently Note 4 doesn't have much power 0.41 volts, guess I will have to use a DAC/AMP or just double amp with my Fiio E6.
Is it only mine or the note 4 loudspeaker sucks?
The sound distorts its scratchy when it is in its max volume.
Note 3 was better. ?
Notification Sound is also scratchy with max volume
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I find the sound of the Note 4 to be much better than the Note 3. Much Much better. I have the 910C Exynos version.
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I find the sound of the Note 4 to be much better than the Note 3. Much Much better. I have the 910C Exynos version.
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On my note 3 snapdragon I was using a volume hack to boost overall volume level, while on note 4 I find the sound level is much better, I still find it a little low on speaker phone and incall volume. Hope someone can make a volume hack on exynos this time.
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I find the sound of the Note 4 to be much better than the Note 3. Much Much better. I have the 910C Exynos version.
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I've got a note 2 to compare with, and I find the Note 4 speaker to be much louder and clearer than the note 2. I've also got the Exynos version.
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what color is your phones? its funny but i think white one speaker volume is less! every review on black one (like gsmarena) says a very good speaker but the reviews on white one (like phonearena) says its low and tiny, what is it?!
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what color is your phones? its funny but i think white one speaker volume is less! every review on black one (like gsmarena) says a very good speaker but the reviews on white one (like phonearena) says its low and tiny, what is it?!
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I've got a white Exynos model.
KINGTATu said:
what color is your phones? its funny but i think white one speaker volume is less! every review on black one (like gsmarena) says a very good speaker but the reviews on white one (like phonearena) says its low and tiny, what is it?!
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Mine is the White snapdragon ahahah
How can the CPU type affect that much how good or bad the speaker is?
i was in a samsung store yesterday and tested three different kind of note 4 N910C (white, black and another white one in a near store) , tested speaker with default samsung musics and a music that i sent over bluetooth to note 4, with bass enabled in samsung music player or going over volume 12 to 15 the sound was disorted like hell! i couldn't believe what i heard, the quality was good till volume 12 but enabling bass or going over volume 12 makes the sound just awful what is wrong with these devices i tested? it completely made me change my mind of buying this device
It's fairly decent (but will still mod soon as always do to boost max on all outputs)..
The new software coding and virtualization does seem to make the single mono speaker ok and a tad better then the Note 3...also the position is a bit better being lower on the back for landscape media viewing but I'm still very disappointed that they didn't rock this thing with "dual stereo FRONT facing" speakers..
That was what I was hoping for and kind of expecting on this new model but never happened (like IP67 water resistance rating, USB3, wireless charging built in, temp sensor, full metal casing) but such is life....still a great phone but COULD have been more amazing and more of a groundbreaking jump from the 3...
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I tested the Note4 today and compared the sound with my Note2. The Note2 sounds better to me and it made me not wanting to upgrade... until I took some photos with the cameras. The Note4 camera takes so much better pictures than my Note2 (probably thanks to the OIS). Still very disappointed with the Note4 speaker though
The Note 4 is far superior to the Note 3 in the sound department.
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Speaker Test vs Note 3: http://youtu.be/_UYwfonN2hM
Hello!
As I am deeply deceived by the M9 (reviews) and I want a crisp and bright screen as well as the best camera, I think of taking a Note 4 or Edge.
Though I still need some clarifications:
-The reviews are saying the Note 4 can reach about 750nits with automatic mode, so is it better than M8 under direct sunlight?
-There a total confusion about the Exynos version, does it have a Sony or Isocell camera?
-How good is the audio quality over wired and BT earphones?
-Anyone tried to use S6 theme installer on Note 4?
vegetaleb said:
Hello!
As I am deeply deceived by the M9 (reviews) and I want a crisp and bright screen as well as the best camera, I think of taking a Note 4 or Edge.
Though I still need some clarifications:
-The reviews are saying the Note 4 can reach about 750nits with automatic mode, so is it better than M8 under direct sunlight?
-There a total confusion about the Exynos version, does it have a Sony or Isocell camera?
-How good is the audio quality over wired and BT earphones?
-Anyone tried to use S6 theme installer on Note 4?
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1) Yes, you will be able to see your Note 4's screen under direct sunlight clearly. It's way better than the M8's screen
2) Exynos version comes with Samsung's own ISOCELL camera.
3) From my experience, there were absolutely no delays using BT earphones. I personally didn't use wired earphones during calls because it will blow your ears up. It's sooo loud and it is a pain to adjust it to the right volume. Overall, fantastic and crystal clear. It's so clear that my friend was able to hear my footsteps.
4) I did not try this.
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1) Yes, you will be able to see your Note 4's screen under direct sunlight clearly. It's way better than the M8's screen
2) Exynos version comes with Samsung's own ISOCELL camera.
3) From my experience, there were absolutely no delays using BT earphones. I personally didn't use wired earphones during calls because it will blow your ears up. It's sooo loud and it is a pain to adjust it to the right volume. Overall, fantastic and crystal clear. It's so clear that my friend was able to hear my footsteps.
4) I did not try this.
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I couldn't find a review of Exynos Isocell camera Note 4, ae you sure it's not Sony?
I understood the mention of Isocell was a bug in previous software on Note 4, after a certain update the Note 4 Exynos was giving Sony name
no i dont think so
audio quality is far best in m8
i hate the note 4 in earphone audio quality with my solo hd beats it was fantastic with one max
and the m8 boom speaker is fantastic i hope you talk m9
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no i dont think so
audio quality is far best in m8
i hate the note 4 in earphone audio quality with my solo hd beats it was fantastic with one max
and the m8 boom speaker is fantastic i hope you talk m9
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Snapdragon Note 4 is worst than M8 for audio quality but people at Head-Fi told me the Exynos Note 4 is superior to M8 because of Wolfson DAC, no?
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I couldn't find a review of Exynos Isocell camera Note 4, ae you sure it's not Sony?
I understood the mention of Isocell was a bug in previous software on Note 4, after a certain update the Note 4 Exynos was giving Sony name
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http://www.gsmarena.com/the_galaxy_note_4_with_exynos_chipset_has_an_isocell_camera-news-10330.php
I am pretty sure it's ISOCELL.
LTE-X said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_galaxy_note_4_with_exynos_chipset_has_an_isocell_camera-news-10330.php
I am pretty sure it's ISOCELL.
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But from the link you posted, in the users comments:
wrong news from 1 months ago , just dig up more before writing news,it's an software issue, ALL VERSIONS of note 4 have sony sensor....
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my N910C note4's rear camera's sensore was original samsung isocell before last update but now has a different name in this test (sony) just after this update!!!!!!!!!!!!
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vegetaleb said:
Hello!
As I am deeply deceived by the M9 (reviews) and I want a crisp and bright screen as well as the best camera, I think of taking a Note 4 or Edge.
Though I still need some clarifications:
-The reviews are saying the Note 4 can reach about 750nits with automatic mode, so is it better than M8 under direct sunlight?
-There a total confusion about the Exynos version, does it have a Sony or Isocell camera?
-How good is the audio quality over wired and BT earphones?
-Anyone tried to use S6 theme installer on Note 4?
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1. Note 4 screen is not as bright or as readable as the M8 and I have both. In direct sunlight note 4 is hard to read auto or not.
2. Mine is Sony. Pictures come out great good or low light.
3. Audio quality and volume is average over wired and BT. Well below that of M8.
4. No sorry.
Jonathan-H said:
1. Note 4 screen is not as bright or as readable as the M8 and I have both. In direct sunlight note 4 is hard to read auto or not.
2. Mine is Sony. Pictures come out great good or low light.
3. Audio quality and volume is average over wired and BT. Well below that of M8.
4. No sorry.
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How come? Note 4 is 750 nits in auto mode +5 while M8 is limited to 480, my M8 can be sometimes difficult to read at ski and beach
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my note 4 cant see any thing under sun light
z ultra was great under the sun light
910u is far superior to the m8. no comparision.
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my note 4 cant see any thing under sun light
z ultra was great under the sun light
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Not a direct comparison with M8 but this video shows how bright the screen in under sunlight compared to iphone 6
I have the Samsung Phone Info app but can't see what the DAC is. Usually Samsung use Wolfson. Anyone with more info ? I'll test with high res music tomorrow to assess against Axon 7.
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What about the Exynos bootloader? Can it be unlocked? People care more about that, I think, if you want to start a popular thread!
ChazzMatt said:
What about the Exynos bootloader? Can it be unlocked? People care more about that, I think, if you want to start a popular thread!
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The S8 is shipped with AKG headphones worth $99. I think audio is now a area Samsung is looking to improve.
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Just found this site selling the "official headphones" £29.99
http://www.digitalsave.co.uk/offici...-kardon.html?gclid=CPm31oHFtdMCFWwo0wod6jsBIw
choccy31 said:
Just found this site selling the "official headphones" £29.99
http://www.digitalsave.co.uk/offici...-kardon.html?gclid=CPm31oHFtdMCFWwo0wod6jsBIw
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Amazing. According to Pocket Now YouTube review the AKG are good as other $99 headphones.
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jah said:
The S8 is shipped with AKG headphones worth $99. I think audio is now a area Samsung is looking to improve.
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We on XDA care more about unlocked bootloader answers.
ChazzMatt said:
We on XDA care more about unlocked bootloader answers.
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I'm on XDA for many years and I care about all aspects as do others. The Axon 7 is the benchmark for audio as the LG V20 and G6. These flagship devices are designed for great audio, as was the HTC M10.
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Cirrus CS47L92
The audio chip is Cirrus logic CS47L92 , not reviewed yet, but check old S7 explanation : http://www.chipworks.com/about-chip...axy-s7-snapdragon-chipsets-vs-exynos-chipsets
So far, coming from my UK S5 which I think has a Wolfson DAC, my exynos S8 sounds very flat. i dont like it at all. im using the same SE530's as I was on the S5 but the sound is just flat, not sure how else i can describe it. the bass seems to be lacking as well. If they have just used some iteration of the cirrus logic crap that was in the S7 that everyone complains about then its no wonder this thing sounds terrible.
ewokuk said:
So far, coming from my UK S5 which I think has a Wolfson DAC, my exynos S8 sounds very flat. i dont like it at all. im using the same SE530's as I was on the S5 but the sound is just flat, not sure how else i can describe it. the bass seems to be lacking as well. If they have just used some iteration of the cirrus logic crap that was in the S7 that everyone complains about then its no wonder this thing sounds terrible.
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Wolfson belongs to Cirrus since 2014, for more spec, you can ask the guy : http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...Cirrus-Logic’s-Power-Smart-Codec-Hi-Fi-Stereo
The chip should look like "near" this : https://www.cirrus.com/images/product_diagrams/cs47L90blkdiag-dd0c0e040d.svg
oF2pks said:
Wolfson belongs to Cirrus since 2014, for more spec, you can ask the guy : http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...Cirrus-Logic’s-Power-Smart-Codec-Hi-Fi-Stereo
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Kinda irrelevant then. What was seemingly a very good Wolfson dac in the s5 became a crap cirrus dac by the s7 and sounds like it has continued in the s8 from what mine sounds like vs my s5.
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Kinda irrelevant then. What was seemingly a very good Wolfson dac in the s5 became a crap cirrus dac by the s7 and sounds like it has continued in the s8 from what mine sounds like vs my s5.
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Maybe there are a plethora of noise "retro"-cancellation/protection (?) that should be shut down for indoor heavy loud natural HiFi ?
ChazzMatt said:
What about the Exynos bootloader? Can it be unlocked? People care more about that, I think, if you want to start a popular thread!
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by the way, the answer to my question days ago is "yes".
ewokuk said:
So far, coming from my UK S5 which I think has a Wolfson DAC, my exynos S8 sounds very flat. i dont like it at all. im using the same SE530's as I was on the S5 but the sound is just flat, not sure how else i can describe it. the bass seems to be lacking as well. If they have just used some iteration of the cirrus logic crap that was in the S7 that everyone complains about then its no wonder this thing sounds terrible.
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I agree, the bass instruments don't sound involving and your use of the description of "flat " is right. My benchmark is the ZTE Axon 7.
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How would one compare the s8 earphone/bluetooth sound performance vs Huawei nexus 6p?
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How would one compare the s8 earphone/bluetooth sound performance vs Huawei nexus 6p?
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I have heard nothing but bad things about the 6P audio performance vs every flagship in the last 18 months
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I have heard nothing but bad things about the 6P audio performance vs every flagship in the last 18 months
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Quite relieved to read that mate. Any sources tho?
Are there any websites that actually do compare smartphone audio performance for earphones/bluetooth. headsets?
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Quite relieved to read that mate. Any sources tho?
Are there any websites that actually do compare smartphone audio performance for earphones/bluetooth. headsets?
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Numerous people on Head Fi, headphone amp readings from GSMArena and PhoneArena, comments on Reddit. No one was a fan of the 6P audio.
Disappointing to read about poor audio on the S8. I had an S7 which was great apart from the audio over headphones. Even tweaking the audio settings it was still really poor. I currently have a Xiaomi Redmi note 4 (MTK) and headphone audio is excellent and really enjoyable. It's also a pity that the European LG G6 skimps out on the better audio DAC as well.
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Numerous people on Head Fi, headphone amp readings from GSMArena and PhoneArena, comments on Reddit. No one was a fan of the 6P audio.
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Hey...
I am an audiophile. I used Nexus 6p for one and half years. It wasn't bad.... In fact I rooted and it sounded awesome. Then I switched to MiA1. It has a great DAC. The best one. Used LG v30. Didn't like it. Now I am on Samsung Note 8 (Exynos version). It's bad. Worst infact. I regret spending 950 bucks on this.