Moving from M8 to Note 4, good idea? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello!
As I am deeply deceived by the M9 (reviews) and I want a crisp and bright screen as well as the best camera, I think of taking a Note 4 or Edge.
Though I still need some clarifications:
-The reviews are saying the Note 4 can reach about 750nits with automatic mode, so is it better than M8 under direct sunlight?
-There a total confusion about the Exynos version, does it have a Sony or Isocell camera?
-How good is the audio quality over wired and BT earphones?
-Anyone tried to use S6 theme installer on Note 4?

vegetaleb said:
Hello!
As I am deeply deceived by the M9 (reviews) and I want a crisp and bright screen as well as the best camera, I think of taking a Note 4 or Edge.
Though I still need some clarifications:
-The reviews are saying the Note 4 can reach about 750nits with automatic mode, so is it better than M8 under direct sunlight?
-There a total confusion about the Exynos version, does it have a Sony or Isocell camera?
-How good is the audio quality over wired and BT earphones?
-Anyone tried to use S6 theme installer on Note 4?
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1) Yes, you will be able to see your Note 4's screen under direct sunlight clearly. It's way better than the M8's screen
2) Exynos version comes with Samsung's own ISOCELL camera.
3) From my experience, there were absolutely no delays using BT earphones. I personally didn't use wired earphones during calls because it will blow your ears up. It's sooo loud and it is a pain to adjust it to the right volume. Overall, fantastic and crystal clear. It's so clear that my friend was able to hear my footsteps.
4) I did not try this.

LTE-X said:
1) Yes, you will be able to see your Note 4's screen under direct sunlight clearly. It's way better than the M8's screen
2) Exynos version comes with Samsung's own ISOCELL camera.
3) From my experience, there were absolutely no delays using BT earphones. I personally didn't use wired earphones during calls because it will blow your ears up. It's sooo loud and it is a pain to adjust it to the right volume. Overall, fantastic and crystal clear. It's so clear that my friend was able to hear my footsteps.
4) I did not try this.
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I couldn't find a review of Exynos Isocell camera Note 4, ae you sure it's not Sony?
I understood the mention of Isocell was a bug in previous software on Note 4, after a certain update the Note 4 Exynos was giving Sony name

no i dont think so
audio quality is far best in m8
i hate the note 4 in earphone audio quality with my solo hd beats it was fantastic with one max
and the m8 boom speaker is fantastic i hope you talk m9

rowihel2012 said:
no i dont think so
audio quality is far best in m8
i hate the note 4 in earphone audio quality with my solo hd beats it was fantastic with one max
and the m8 boom speaker is fantastic i hope you talk m9
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Snapdragon Note 4 is worst than M8 for audio quality but people at Head-Fi told me the Exynos Note 4 is superior to M8 because of Wolfson DAC, no?

vegetaleb said:
I couldn't find a review of Exynos Isocell camera Note 4, ae you sure it's not Sony?
I understood the mention of Isocell was a bug in previous software on Note 4, after a certain update the Note 4 Exynos was giving Sony name
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http://www.gsmarena.com/the_galaxy_note_4_with_exynos_chipset_has_an_isocell_camera-news-10330.php
I am pretty sure it's ISOCELL.

LTE-X said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_galaxy_note_4_with_exynos_chipset_has_an_isocell_camera-news-10330.php
I am pretty sure it's ISOCELL.
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But from the link you posted, in the users comments:
wrong news from 1 months ago , just dig up more before writing news,it's an software issue, ALL VERSIONS of note 4 have sony sensor....
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my N910C note4's rear camera's sensore was original samsung isocell before last update but now has a different name in this test (sony) just after this update!!!!!!!!!!!!
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vegetaleb said:
Hello!
As I am deeply deceived by the M9 (reviews) and I want a crisp and bright screen as well as the best camera, I think of taking a Note 4 or Edge.
Though I still need some clarifications:
-The reviews are saying the Note 4 can reach about 750nits with automatic mode, so is it better than M8 under direct sunlight?
-There a total confusion about the Exynos version, does it have a Sony or Isocell camera?
-How good is the audio quality over wired and BT earphones?
-Anyone tried to use S6 theme installer on Note 4?
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1. Note 4 screen is not as bright or as readable as the M8 and I have both. In direct sunlight note 4 is hard to read auto or not.
2. Mine is Sony. Pictures come out great good or low light.
3. Audio quality and volume is average over wired and BT. Well below that of M8.
4. No sorry.

Jonathan-H said:
1. Note 4 screen is not as bright or as readable as the M8 and I have both. In direct sunlight note 4 is hard to read auto or not.
2. Mine is Sony. Pictures come out great good or low light.
3. Audio quality and volume is average over wired and BT. Well below that of M8.
4. No sorry.
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How come? Note 4 is 750 nits in auto mode +5 while M8 is limited to 480, my M8 can be sometimes difficult to read at ski and beach
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my note 4 cant see any thing under sun light
z ultra was great under the sun light

910u is far superior to the m8. no comparision.

rowihel2012 said:
my note 4 cant see any thing under sun light
z ultra was great under the sun light
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Not a direct comparison with M8 but this video shows how bright the screen in under sunlight compared to iphone 6

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Quality of the speakers

How do the speakers compare to those of the Note 2? I'm discussing in terms of both loudness and audio quality. Are there distortions at maximum volume? Is the quality comparable to the top HTC phones?
The Note 3 had some pretty lackluster speakers, and they were a downgrade compared to those of the Note 2.
On that note, will the DAC for the Qualcomm version be their integrated sound solution and the Wolfson DAC again for the Exynos versions?
Of course you know not a single one of these has been sold yet, so how can you ask a question like this?
If it's like S5 it will be louder than my z2. Let's wait and see.
I hope it's at least as good as the Note 2. I felt like the Note 3 speaker was a downgrade in the loudness department.
In that Russian review they stated the Note 4 speaker was louder then the Note 3 one.
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mardukeme said:
In that Russian review they stated the Note 4 speaker was louder then the Note 3 one.
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thats a huge achievement LOL
sauron0101 said:
How do the speakers compare to those of the Note 2? I'm discussing in terms of both loudness and audio quality. Are there distortions at maximum volume? Is the quality comparable to the top HTC phones?
The Note 3 had some pretty lackluster speakers, and they were a downgrade compared to those of the Note 2.
On that note, will the DAC for the Qualcomm version be their integrated sound solution and the Wolfson DAC again for the Exynos versions?
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I just checked out the Note 4 at a local Best Buy and I'm happy with everything, but the speaker.
It is indeed louder than the Note 3's, but not by much. It has great highs, but the midrange is tinny sounding and nowhere as full or as loud as my LG G3's speaker. I rely heavily on the speakerphone so this was a disappointment, but I'll buy the phone anyways.

[Q] Loudspeaker sound quality

Is it only mine or the note 4 loudspeaker sucks?
The sound distorts its scratchy when it is in its max volume.
Note 3 was better. ?
Notification Sound is also scratchy with max volume
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I find the sound of the Note 4 to be much better than the Note 3. Much Much better. I have the 910C Exynos version.
ozaghloul said:
I find the sound of the Note 4 to be much better than the Note 3. Much Much better. I have the 910C Exynos version.
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On my note 3 snapdragon I was using a volume hack to boost overall volume level, while on note 4 I find the sound level is much better, I still find it a little low on speaker phone and incall volume. Hope someone can make a volume hack on exynos this time.
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ozaghloul said:
I find the sound of the Note 4 to be much better than the Note 3. Much Much better. I have the 910C Exynos version.
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I've got a note 2 to compare with, and I find the Note 4 speaker to be much louder and clearer than the note 2. I've also got the Exynos version.
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what color is your phones? its funny but i think white one speaker volume is less! every review on black one (like gsmarena) says a very good speaker but the reviews on white one (like phonearena) says its low and tiny, what is it?!
KINGTATu said:
what color is your phones? its funny but i think white one speaker volume is less! every review on black one (like gsmarena) says a very good speaker but the reviews on white one (like phonearena) says its low and tiny, what is it?!
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I've got a white Exynos model.
KINGTATu said:
what color is your phones? its funny but i think white one speaker volume is less! every review on black one (like gsmarena) says a very good speaker but the reviews on white one (like phonearena) says its low and tiny, what is it?!
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Mine is the White snapdragon ahahah
How can the CPU type affect that much how good or bad the speaker is?
i was in a samsung store yesterday and tested three different kind of note 4 N910C (white, black and another white one in a near store) , tested speaker with default samsung musics and a music that i sent over bluetooth to note 4, with bass enabled in samsung music player or going over volume 12 to 15 the sound was disorted like hell! i couldn't believe what i heard, the quality was good till volume 12 but enabling bass or going over volume 12 makes the sound just awful what is wrong with these devices i tested? it completely made me change my mind of buying this device
It's fairly decent (but will still mod soon as always do to boost max on all outputs)..
The new software coding and virtualization does seem to make the single mono speaker ok and a tad better then the Note 3...also the position is a bit better being lower on the back for landscape media viewing but I'm still very disappointed that they didn't rock this thing with "dual stereo FRONT facing" speakers..
That was what I was hoping for and kind of expecting on this new model but never happened (like IP67 water resistance rating, USB3, wireless charging built in, temp sensor, full metal casing) but such is life....still a great phone but COULD have been more amazing and more of a groundbreaking jump from the 3...
Sent from my *ROOTED* Note 4 SM-N910W8
I tested the Note4 today and compared the sound with my Note2. The Note2 sounds better to me and it made me not wanting to upgrade... until I took some photos with the cameras. The Note4 camera takes so much better pictures than my Note2 (probably thanks to the OIS). Still very disappointed with the Note4 speaker though
The Note 4 is far superior to the Note 3 in the sound department.
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Speaker Test vs Note 3: http://youtu.be/_UYwfonN2hM

Keep my htc m8 or buy Note 4?

hi guys, i am a happy owner of a htc one m8, the device is the fastest i've used and UI is a lot smooth. i also loved note 4 when i played with it in a samsung store. But i have some concerns about this device.
1-how is the UI performance in day to day use? in my m8 the UI is fast, no lag at all, but i know TW is heavy and i am a bit worried. mainly because i saw this video from flossy carter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdYuj2NSZZ0#t=851 . in 14:11 the device completely crash.
2-here in Brazil i just have the option to buy exynos version SM-N910C. is not clear anywhere what is dac it is using and if camera sensor is sony or samsung isocell, and which one is better.
3-how loud do you guys can record video without distortion? my other previous devices everytime i am with a place with high volume sound the audio distorts with bass, but with my m8 is clear, also iphones and some lumias don't have this problem. does note 4 have this problem?
4-how speaker audio compares to htc m8?
5- how is the battery life? it can reach 8 hours of screen on time with continuous usage?
6-how is the outdoor visibility?
is a lot of questions because i like my m8, and don't want to regret if i buy note 4. thanks.
leandronb said:
hi guys, i am a happy owner of a htc one m8, the device is the fastest i've used and UI is a lot smooth. i also loved note 4 when i played with it in a samsung store. But i have some concerns about this device.
1-how is the UI performance in day to day use? in my m8 the UI is fast, no lag at all, but i know TW is heavy and i am a bit worried. mainly because i saw this video from flossy carter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdYuj2NSZZ0#t=851 . in 14:11 the device completely crash.
2-here in Brazil i just have the option to buy exynos version SM-N910C. is not clear anywhere what is dac it is using and if camera sensor is sony or samsung isocell, and which one is better.
3-how loud do you guys can record video without distortion? my other previous devices everytime i am with a place with high volume sound the audio distorts with bass, but with my m8 is clear, also iphones and some lumias don't have this problem. does note 4 have this problem?
4-how speaker audio compares to htc m8?
5- how is the battery life? it can reach 8 hours of screen on time with continuous usage?
6-how is the outdoor visibility?
is a lot of questions because i like my m8, and don't want to regret if i buy note 4. thanks.
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I was an M8 user for quite some time before getting Note 4 and I'm pretty sure I can answer all of your questions:
1. M8's peformance is definitely smoother than N4's. Not that you'll notice daily lag or something, but TouchWiz is just so much heavier than Sense that the hiccups always come out in different parts of the UI.
2. I own an N910C as well and I am pretty sure it use Samsung's ISOCELL camera. Is it better than the Sony one found in Exynos? No idea. As far as the camera quality goes compared to M8, it's pretty much the same: selfies and normals are amazing and they look even better on the amazing QHD display, but M8's HDR and low light performance beats N4.
3. Never really had any problems with audio distortion on videos but I'm pretty sure with the additional microphones Samsung has put in, it should be a pleasant experience.
4. Nobody can beat M8's boom speakers at the moment in the market. N4's speaker is obviously nowhere better than stereo speakers of M8, but it's not too bad either.
5. 8 hours of screen on ? Whoaaa, dream on! Every N4 user has difference battery performance from what I saw on the forums, but I can assure you around 3-4 hrs of SoT. Fast Charging kinda makes up for that.
6. Since N4 has an AMOLED display, it always struggles in daylight visibility. However it is better than any other AMOLED display before and while it might not be better than M8's, it's still not gonna cause you a lot of problems in direct sunlight.
quadlt said:
I was an M8 user for quite some time before getting Note 4 and I'm pretty sure I can answer all of your questions:
1. M8's peformance is definitely smoother than N4's. Not that you'll notice daily lag or something, but TouchWiz is just so much heavier than Sense that the hiccups always come out in different parts of the UI.
2. I own an N910C as well and I am pretty sure it use Samsung's ISOCELL camera. Is it better than the Sony one found in Exynos? No idea. As far as the camera quality goes compared to M8, it's pretty much the same: selfies and normals are amazing and they look even better on the amazing QHD display, but M8's HDR and low light performance beats N4.
3. Never really had any problems with audio distortion on videos but I'm pretty sure with the additional microphones Samsung has put in, it should be a pleasant experience.
4. Nobody can beat M8's boom speakers at the moment in the market. N4's speaker is obviously nowhere better than stereo speakers of M8, but it's not too bad either.
5. 8 hours of screen on ? Whoaaa, dream on! Every N4 user has difference battery performance from what I saw on the forums, but I can assure you around 3-4 hrs of SoT. Fast Charging kinda makes up for that.
6. Since N4 has an AMOLED display, it always struggles in daylight visibility. However it is better than any other AMOLED display before and while it might not be better than M8's, it's still not gonna cause you a lot of problems in direct sunlight.
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So are you happy with your decision? there is something in your m8 that you miss now?
leandronb said:
hi guys, i am a happy owner of a htc one m8, the device is the fastest i've used and UI is a lot smooth. i also loved note 4 when i played with it in a samsung store. But i have some concerns about this device.
1-how is the UI performance in day to day use? in my m8 the UI is fast, no lag at all, but i know TW is heavy and i am a bit worried. mainly because i saw this video from flossy carter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdYuj2NSZZ0#t=851 . in 14:11 the device completely crash.
2-here in Brazil i just have the option to buy exynos version SM-N910C. is not clear anywhere what is dac it is using and if camera sensor is sony or samsung isocell, and which one is better.
3-how loud do you guys can record video without distortion? my other previous devices everytime i am with a place with high volume sound the audio distorts with bass, but with my m8 is clear, also iphones and some lumias don't have this problem. does note 4 have this problem?
4-how speaker audio compares to htc m8?
5- how is the battery life? it can reach 8 hours of screen on time with continuous usage?
6-how is the outdoor visibility?
is a lot of questions because i like my m8, and don't want to regret if i buy note 4. thanks.
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Hello
I went from the M8 to the Note 4, and while I don't regret my decision, the M8 in its own right is an amazing device and does trump the Note 4 in a few areas. My advice to you is stick with what you have, it's already a great device and you could swap it with an S6 or M9 down the line.
M8 would be smoother with the UI. I have a note 4, it's brilliant. It's really just an all-rounder. But ultimately what made me choose it over getting an M8 was my need for the s-pen. I'm a digital artist, and I use sketchbook pro on my note 10.1, and using dropsync I can now sync my projects between both devices... I'm super happy with this. Again, I would have probably bought the M8, or Z3 cause of the smoother UI if I didn't need the stylus. Enjoy your phone sir, it's one of the best out there

Camera comparison vs S6

Hi all, I'm currently using a galaxy S5 and looking for an upgrade to either a Note 4 or S6. I don't really care much about any other things as the two are both very good phones, only camera. Spec wise they are not THAT different, just a better f/1.9 lens on the S6 compared to f/2.2 lens of the Note 4, other specs remain the same. So theoretically the images from the S6 should be a little bit better than the note 4 in extreme cases (very low light for instance), and generally the same for most situations. But somehow I've read reviews that put the Note 4's camera output to be a tad better than the S6 (gsmarena's review for example), and I just don't know why. Is there any reason behind that or something I missed? Thanks in advance!
Master619 said:
Hi all, I'm currently using a galaxy S5 and looking for an upgrade to either a Note 4 or S6. I don't really care much about any other things as the two are both very good phones, only camera. Spec wise they are not THAT different, just a better f/1.9 lens on the S6 compared to f/2.2 lens of the Note 4, other specs remain the same. So theoretically the images from the S6 should be a little bit better than the note 4 in extreme cases (very low light for instance), and generally the same for most situations. But somehow I've read reviews that put the Note 4's camera output to be a tad better than the S6 (gsmarena's review for example), and I just don't know why. Is there any reason behind that or something I missed? Thanks in advance!
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Use Mobile DxOMark and find the S6/Note 4 and compare why one is better than the other hardware/software wise.
Gsmarena did do a blind test by readers and note 4 won, except for night shots
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Both the same generally but S6 much better in low light.
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S6 win.
/thread.
galaxy note 4 on the left side,s6 edge on the right side
http://imgur.com/b41xKvx
both of them taken by me
From what I have seen the Note 4 seems to have a much better camera. But that is due to the fact that the SGS6 uses either Samsung's own isocell or Sony's Xemar senor. Which is makes it a potshot as to which one of those you would get on your SGS6/S6Edge.

Thinking about buying

My v10 is almost dead and thinking about buying this on the cheap. Couple of questions for current owners:
1. Is the camera really that terrible?
2. How is the dev support for this phone? Dev section looks 100x better than V10's lol
3. Another choice is Axon 7. Anyone that had that phone before and how it compares?
Any other comments.feedback? Thanks, everyone.
Camera is on par with the likes of Nexus 5X, S6 or iPhone 7 if you use Google Camera App.
Dev support is excellent and progressing.
If you care about built-in audio, 3.5mm port and screen resolution, Axon 7 is better otherwise Le Pro 3 is better in any department.
I think I saw somewhere Le Pro 3 goes down to $250 again so grab it while you can!
Joms_US said:
Camera is on par with the likes of Nexus 5X, S6 or iPhone 7 if you use Google Camera App.
Dev support is excellent and progressing.
If you care about built-in audio, 3.5mm port and screen resolution, Axon 7 is better otherwise Le Pro 3 is better in any department.
I think I saw somewhere Le Pro 3 goes down to $250 again so grab it while you can!
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which version of google camera is working for you?
nvm found it thanks
Joms_US said:
Camera is on par with the likes of Nexus 5X, S6 or iPhone 7 if you use Google Camera App.
Dev support is excellent and progressing.
If you care about built-in audio, 3.5mm port and screen resolution, Axon 7 is better otherwise Le Pro 3 is better in any department.
I think I saw somewhere Le Pro 3 goes down to $250 again so grab it while you can!
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Thanks! I really don't care for the headphone jack. Never listen to music on my phone. Not sure how I feel about the resolution, since V10 has the same res as A7. Haven't had a HD screen phone in a minute.
How are the speakers on this phone, btw?
RussianBear said:
Thanks! I really don't care for the headphone jack. Never listen to music on my phone. Not sure how I feel about the resolution, since V10 has the same res as A7. Haven't had a HD screen phone in a minute.
How are the speakers on this phone, btw?
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The CDLA earphone of Le Pro 3 is excellent, sound is as good as expensive audio system. =D
As for the built-in speakers, check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4iqigI3Tko
If you can get it for under 300 dlls go for it. Stock rom has amazing battery life, but there are also good stock based roms and nougat with great support and development
It's on sale now for$250. I saw on eBay
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Picked one up off swappa for 180. We'll see how it is Thanks, everyone.
I believe you'll be satisfied. Speakers are great, dev support even better, its easily unlockable, easy to avoid bricking if youre just a lil careful. I've been using mine since december, bought it from aliex right when it came out (6/64gb version), and couldnt be more happy with my choice, I came from a nexus 5, am addicted to tinkering and modding the sw, and its great!

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