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Battery Issues

Hey guys, i've had my PPC 6800 (bell) for about slightly over a year now.
Recently i've noticed that the battery is dying instantly every time i make a call or access the internet. It can go from 90% down to 6% in a matter of seconds. I've tried differnt firmwares and nothing helps at all. Anyone got any ideas? Is my phone kicking the can..? or is it my battery?
Thanks for the help

I would say it's the battery. I had same thing after about a year too. Mine would go down even if I wasn't using the phone. I thought it was the phone's fault so I called Verizon and they sent me a new phone. But battery acted the same. So I bought another battery. All is fine now!

it could also be a problem with the phone. Does it get really hot during the drain periods. I had on that did and it was just defective.

hmm well it acts normally when i'm just using the GUI (aka just playing games etc), however everytime i access data or call, the battery dies in several minutes. I'm gonna try upgrading the battery i guess, its a shame they're just so expensive

You can get oem ones cheap on ebay. Or even the cheaper chinese ones

Could ya tell me if this battery would be compatable?
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25024
Or could you recommend any other sites/links to get a cheap batt from?
thanks again

It would work and it is the same as the cheap extended ones on ebay. The battery is of great quality but it should last. I look at the cheap ones this way. I can buy at least 3 of them for the price of a name brand one. This allows me to buy them if they fail cheap.

Battery issue and possible replacement?

Short version: I'm looking at getting a Galaxy Tab 10.1 on Verizon which has a battery issue. According to the current owner, the battery only holds a 20% charge. My question is twofold. One, is there any chance this is a software or battery calibration problem that is fixable? The GT 10.1 seems a bit young for the battery to actually have worn down to that point.
Two, assuming it's not fixable, does anyone here have experience with replacing the battery? I've looked over the teardowns, and seen the type of battery pack it uses, but I haven't seen direct replacements available on eBay.

It's still under warranttee, why not have Samsung fix it?

Agree with Tabguy. Verizon version of the 10.1 tab is young in the tooth so I would think that if there was an issue with the device hardware wise the warranty would cover that. That the owner is selling it despite this is concerning IMO. If it were me selling it I'd at least go through the effort of having it serviced under warranty so as to not pass the problem on to someone who wouldn't be able to fix it. Perhaps they are a 2nd owner though.
From what I know, the Verizon version of the tab also hasn't had any custom ROMs that would have messed with the battery requiring calibration. I own one of these tabs and have flashed a few things including AOKP builds with no impacts to battery calibration. So unless the owner flashed something that us other Verizon owners haven't it's unlikely a calibration issue.
Just a heads up that the Verizon version differs on ROM support so right now you're stuck on Honeycomb 3.2 at best if you need LTE data until the ICS build is released by Samsung/Verizon or a developer develops the LTE modem support for the ICS builds floating around. If you don't need LTE data right now you're better off getting a wifi tab and passing on this one.

They may well be the second owner, I'm not sure. It's disappointing that the warranty doesn't follow the tab. But still, if it is fixable it'd be a great deal.

AdamaDBrown said:
They may well be the second owner, I'm not sure. It's disappointing that the warranty doesn't follow the tab. But still, if it is fixable it'd be a great deal.
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definitely is fixable...i opened mine up and its just removing some screws and a cable and popping the new one in...now just to find a battery
EDIT: FOUND IT FOR YOU! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-SP...701630?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2eba3799be

Gotta love this forum!

Indeed. Now sounds like an opportunity for him to grab a tab on the cheap and repair the battery himself. I'd lowball the price and see if the owner takes it.

Okay, so I got my hands on this thing. I haven't extensively tested it's battery capacity yet, but that's mostly because it came without the Samsung charger, just the standard USB cable. Without the Samsung 2 amp USB charger, even charging off a 1 amp supply it's nearly impossible to charge the thing. I left it plugged in for 24 hours and it's still only up around 75%. Which actually makes me wonder if that was the previous owner's problem, that they were charging it off a low current source which wasn't able to really supply the battery.
Either way, I need a 2 amp USB power supply. Does anyone happen to know if a generic one will do just as well, or is the Samsung charger wired specially for the GTab?

Sooo.... it's looking more and more like the former owner of this thing was simply a moron. And I'm not saying that just because he didn't even bother to delete his GMail account, password, and browser history of black porn and online gambling before selling the tablet to me.
Connected to a low-amperage charger, it managed to trickle-charge up to 98% before I unplugged it and started playing. That was a little over two hours ago, and two hours of solid use on Verizon 3G later, it's declining at a steady 10% per hour. So absent anything else ridiculous happening, I'm pretty much ready to call this a case of PEBKAC.

AdamaDBrown said:
Either way, I need a 2 amp USB power supply. Does anyone happen to know if a generic one will do just as well, or is the Samsung charger wired specially for the GTab?
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Before buying a second original Samsung 2A charger on occasion I have used a friend's "generic" 2A charger while away from home (the stock one is behind furniture and connected to the Samsungh desktop dock and was too much hassle to get), so a "generic" 2A one will do but seeing as it's not that easy to find good 2A ones and seeing that the Samsung original one is cheap enough I would simply buy an original charger (which IIRC also comes with a USB cable which may come handy).
(Availabilities and prices refer to Italy, the situation may of course be different where you live)
Sooo.... it's looking more and more like the former owner of this thing was simply a moron. And I'm not saying that just because he didn't even bother to delete his GMail account, password, and browser history of black porn and online gambling before selling the tablet to me.
Connected to a low-amperage charger, it managed to trickle-charge up to 98% before I unplugged it and started playing. That was a little over two hours ago, and two hours of solid use on Verizon 3G later, it's declining at a steady 10% per hour. So absent anything else ridiculous happening, I'm pretty much ready to call this a case of PEBKAC.
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LOL!!
Well, it does look like you have been very lucky..

AdamaDBrown said:
Sooo.... it's looking more and more like the former owner of this thing was simply a moron. And I'm not saying that just because he didn't even bother to delete his GMail account, password, and browser history of black porn and online gambling before selling the tablet to me.
Connected to a low-amperage charger, it managed to trickle-charge up to 98% before I unplugged it and started playing. That was a little over two hours ago, and two hours of solid use on Verizon 3G later, it's declining at a steady 10% per hour. So absent anything else ridiculous happening, I'm pretty much ready to call this a case of PEBKAC.
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LOL, nice
how much did you pay for this "broken" tablet ?

POLL - Will you or Will you NOT get the S6?

We have now read many articles, blogs and forums on the S6 ... I was just interested in what your thoughts were thus far, and it really boils down to these poll choices.
Please make your selection and lets see what the general mood is!

My wife and I both own S3's and in the morning on more than a few times we have forgotten to charge one phone and just quickly traded to one of our extra OEM batteries that are charged and off we went. We are busy all day with work and such and we don't have the luxury of having a desk at work to be charging our phones to last all day. That is really what disappointed me. We are both ready to upgrade, but are not even sure what to get now since we both really like using the S3.

TheExtra404 said:
My wife and I both own S3's and in the morning on more than a few times we have forgotten to charge one phone and just quickly traded to one of our extra OEM batteries that are charged and off we went. We are busy all day with work and such and we don't have the luxury of having a desk at work to be charging our phones to last all day. That is really what disappointed me. We are both ready to upgrade, but are not even sure what to get now since we both really like using the S3.
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But would you forget to charge your phone if all you had to do it set it down on a plate?
Also, you really, really can't compare the battery life of an S3 to current gen phones.

se1000 said:
But would you forget to charge your phone if all you had to do it set it down on a plate?
Also, you really, really can't compare the battery life of an S3 to current gen phones.
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Agree that it'd be hard to forget to charge the phone when just dropping it on a plate but am I willing to pay more for said plate just for convience? The phones will already command a premium price and the wireless charging plate doesn't come in the box.

se1000 said:
But would you forget to charge your phone if all you had to do it set it down on a plate?
Also, you really, really can't compare the battery life of an S3 to current gen phones.
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I am not comparing S3 battery with new phones... its not what i typed...
All im saying is that i enjoy just simply popping the battery in the back in 5 seconds and being on my way. That is my preference. If the wireless charger comes included and isnt finicky on placement then yea. In any case i have nothing more to contribute. I really like the way the S6 looks though.

I will get it.

Not

Can't live w/o
Taking out the battery has saved my rear end many times. Also, unless it comes with a 128gb of useable storage I would need a SD slot. I hope that they wouldn't do the same to Note5.

TheExtra404 said:
I am not comparing S3 battery with new phones... its not what i typed...
All im saying is that i enjoy just simply popping the battery in the back in 5 seconds and being on my way. That is my preference. If the wireless charger comes included and isnt finicky on placement then yea. In any case i have nothing more to contribute. I really like the way the S6 looks though.
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I get what you're saying, I really do, but the battery life on newer devices are just in a different league, and keep in mind you're 3 generations behind. Assuming the S6 has similar battery performance to that of the S5, you will be able to use your phone twice to almost 3 times as long as your current S3.
Also remember, with Quick Charge 2.0, you go from flat to 50% in 30 ish minutes. If you notice you've forgotten to charge your phone when you wake up, plug it in and by the time you head out the door it'll have quite a bit of juice. Again, given the stamina of these new phones, at 50% you're still looking at what you would consider a days worth of usage. The Note 4 comes with a QC2.0 charger, I'm assuming the S6 will as well, so there's no extra charge for this.
It's not perfect, just want to point out that it's not like how it was just even a few short years ago. For example, between I've been running a Z2 and Z3 for the last year or so and with the stamina these devices have, I've never ever gone flat before a day is over. This is including those days where I've had to take a red-eye flight, used the phone the whole flight to listen to music and wasn't around a wall plug the next day. Not a full 48, but a solid 36hrs of moderate to heavy usage.

No due to all of the below:
1. No SD card - I am not paying threefold for internal storage
2. No removable battery - I keep my phones for a long time so I like to have an option to replace battery that won't hold charge anymore
3. Exynos CPU - no more Cyanogenmod means at best I'm stuck with touchwiz, thanks but no, I don't like that bloat on my phones

TheExtra404 said:
My wife and I both own S3's and in the morning on more than a few times we have forgotten to charge one phone and just quickly traded to one of our extra OEM batteries that are charged and off we went. We are busy all day with work and such and we don't have the luxury of having a desk at work to be charging our phones to last all day. That is really what disappointed me. We are both ready to upgrade, but are not even sure what to get now since we both really like using the S3.
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I need to get away from Sony. I love the phone, but their mobil division is unstable, and I want to switch to a company that is more secure. Samsung S6 won it over for me above the M9 and any other phone

no to all of the above.. even if I was to agree on losing the up until now standard Galaxy features of the battery and SD I would rather get a Nexus

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Nougat appreciation and battery replacement experience

I just wanted to share how happy i've been with the Nougat update and share my experience with battery replacement. This phone is 2 years old and man i still think this phone can hang in 2017. It's snappy enough for me. I was getting jealous of my sisters s7e with N running. Now that I have it on my s6 i feel like the phone is brand new. Im a happy camper. Also I wanted to share my experience with changing my battery. I bought a replacement battery of ebay and swapped it when i found out my old one was busting out the back cover (defective) and was dying minutes after fully charging. Just replacing the battery i got more use. SoT is 15 minutes shy of 5 hours compared to my before time of 3 hours. stanby with music and light usage is about 24 hour with 20 percent still left. All i do to try to keep the battery in good condition is never letting it run below 20 percent and using greenify. I don't know if Nougat helped battery life but my phone has felt brand new to me from just replacing battery and updating to N. Let me know your experience with battery and how you are liking Nougat. I just flashed to Nougat on Tmo so i might be late to party ive heard some have been running it for months now.
http://www.imgur.com/a/7VJaK

I ran stock unrooted nought since the ota came out here. I had no issues until I made that mistake of installing substratum for touchwiz roms. It worked fine for a little while until the themed apps got updated breaking them one by one. Since I was forced to wipe it anyway I rooted and installed golden eagle Rom which I'm really happy with so far. A lot of benefits over stock.
So far my battery hasn't had any issues and hopefully it won't for a while. I don't run it low or use quick charge if I can help it. The phone is almost 2 years old.

S6 is very bad Google pxl is the boss

If I could buy a Google pixel for anywhere near as cheap as the s6 I would. Your comment isn't very helpful. I personally find the s6 to be a really decent phone for it's age. Especially since I never liked any Samsung phones before this because I always found them to be cheaply made, laggy and buggy.

350Rocket said:
If I could buy a Google pixel for anywhere near as cheap as the s6 I would. Your comment isn't very helpful. I personally find the s6 to be a really decent phone for it's age. Especially since I never liked any Samsung phones before this because I always found them to be cheaply made, laggy and buggy.
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Don't feed the trolls. Let the mods handle them. BTT, nougat has been very good in terms of battery in my experience as well.

350Rocket said:
So far my battery hasn't had any issues and hopefully it won't for a while. I don't run it low or use quick charge if I can help it. The phone is almost 2 years old.
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so do you just uncheck the fast charging option in the settings when you want to charge it and aren't in a hurry? is there study into fast charging causing battery to die out faster? sounds interesting

I haven't heard of any study but typically batteries in general like slow charging better. I leave it unchecked unless I want to charge it faster which happens maybe once a month for me. I charge it in the evening and usually have no problem getting through the day. I usually have a portable power pack with me just in case.

So what's dead / dying in my 6P

This happened to me today while browsing facebook.
My phone suddenly shut down. While trying to turn on, it would get to booting screen and then shut down again. It didn't loop - I had to try each time manually.
I cleared cache and reset it to factory settings to no avail. BUT once I got back home and managed to connect it to a charger (the battery was at estimated 90% capacity), everything runs smoothly. No shutdowns, no freezes - despite the phone getting warm. I stressed it quite a lot and it seems to hold, so I don't think this is related to the "bigger" CPU.
Could it possibly be a battery issue? Could my device be misreading the actual capacity of the battery?
As a sidenote: it did crash/shutdown once I disconnected the charger, but only after 20 minutes or so when I uninstalled a running at that time app.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, so I have something to work with and replace stuff accordingly - and hopefully not the entire phone, as I love my 6P.

It seems like it has to be connected to the battery, as it has been now holding (presumably) at 56% charge for over 4 (!) hours. AccuBattery shows the same data as what the phone reads, and now it seems that my power drain is in negative without charging the phone.
Sadly, there are no original replacements available in my country. Only cheap 3550mAh knockoffs that sellers call OEM. They do have Huawei logo, but everyone knows that 3450mAh is the only original capacity (right?)

Update: Nearly 20 hours on the same displayed 56% capacity.
Any help? Please?

No, you are wrong. Those 3550mAh batterys are the brand new ones from huawei. Those are the newest revision of the battery. Dont get the 3450 ones. If the seller is really selling a 3450mAh one, then its probably one of the old ones with the known issues.

ncc8uetou5et said:
No, you are wrong. Those 3550mAh batterys are the brand new ones from huawei. Those are the newest revision of the battery. Dont get the 3450 ones. If the seller is really selling a 3450mAh one, then its probably one of the old ones with the known issues.
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Thanks for the heads-up. Just out of curiosity - how do you know that? When I contacted Huawei support, they did not answer me whether the 3550mah bat is a genuine product, or a farce. They avoided that question until they force-closed my support ticket without a proper answer.

First: Because i bought one and informed myself before. Then the new battery ran better then ever before. Even better then when the nexus 6p was new. Its the new batch that is better then ever before.
Second: you can read more about this topic in the correct forum thread about that: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78453441&postcount=1023
The thickness of the cable does not matter that much. Something you can care about is the weight. But this is something you can check when you got the new battery and also took the old one out.
To have longer battery life dont use the original charger. Use max a 5V 2A one. For example from a older Samsung mobile phone. Those have good electrical efficiency.

ncc8uetou5et said:
First: Because i bought one and informed myself before. Then the new battery ran better then ever before. Even better then when the nexus 6p was new. Its the new batch that is better then ever before.
Second: you can read more about this topic in the correct forum thread about that: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78453441&postcount=1023
The thickness of the cable does not matter that much. Something you can care about is the weight. But this is something you can check when you got the new battery and also took the old one out.
To have longer battery life dont use the original charger. Use max a 5V 2A one. For example from a older Samsung mobile phone. Those have good electrical efficiency.
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Thanks again.
For the 3 years I've bee using my 6P I never had battery life issues. In fact, even now the battery is holding well, despite the stats showing that my battery might be dying.
I came to this forum section looking for feedback on what could possibly be going on with my phone presenting the issues I am having. I am no mobile tech unlike many of guys around here. I might budge then and hope that the local Huawei repair center in my city will be of more help than the official Huawei support.