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[Q] Digitizer replacement questions

Hi All,
Broke my glass + digitizer, but lcd ok. Got a replacement and managed to separate the original lcd, what I'd like to know is do I really need to glue the lcd to the new digitizer? I've put it back together just loose for the time being and seems to look and work fine. Any risks to just glueing the digitizer/screen to the frame and leaving the lcd loose inside?
Also, I still have glue gunk on the lcd screen, I've ordered some "151 sticker remover" to get rid of it, but it occurred to me it might damage it. Anyone know if it would be ok? If not anything else recommended, maybe something I could make at home?
Thanks!

kaligula1234 said:
Hi All,
Broke my glass + digitizer, but lcd ok. Got a replacement and managed to separate the original lcd, what I'd like to know is do I really need to glue the lcd to the new digitizer? I've put it back together just loose for the time being and seems to look and work fine. Any risks to just glueing the digitizer/screen to the frame and leaving the lcd loose inside?
Also, I still have glue gunk on the lcd screen, I've ordered some "151 sticker remover" to get rid of it, but it occurred to me it might damage it. Anyone know if it would be ok? If not anything else recommended, maybe something I could make at home?
Thanks!
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I am in search for digitizer. How much you got it for? Any sources?
I believe this video should help you. It mentions that you have to glue digitizer and lcd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI55gTtLYHI

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IndianSuzuki said:
I am in search for digitizer. How much you got it for? Any sources?
I believe this video should help you. It mentions that you have to glue digitizer and lcd.
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Thanks, on closer inspection I htink my colours are a little washed out without the glue, so am just going to go ahead and do it.
I got my digitizer off ebay, interestingly I see the ones on ebay in India are twice as expensive though, I would have thought they'd be cheaper. I'd recommend just getting a digitizer and lcd in one though. Like this one:
ebayDOTin/itm/For-LG-E960-Google-Nexus-4-E960-LCD-Display-Touch-Screen-Digitizer-Black-/121465367279?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item1c47e66aef
Costs twice as much, but it's much easier to install; you don't need to buy as many tools, UV glue and gunk remover. Plus there's a high chance of breaking the lcd when separating it from your broken screen, so you could well end up having to buy both anyway.
I read something about the replacement lcds being lower quality though, I don't know how noticeable that would be, but if you pay with paypal you'd probably be able to get your money back.

kaligula1234 said:
Thanks, on closer inspection I htink my colours are a little washed out without the glue, so am just going to go ahead and do it.
I got my digitizer off ebay, interestingly I see the ones on ebay in India are twice as expensive though, I would have thought they'd be cheaper. I'd recommend just getting a digitizer and lcd in one though. Like this one:
ebayDOTin/itm/For-LG-E960-Google-Nexus-4-E960-LCD-Display-Touch-Screen-Digitizer-Black-/121465367279?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item1c47e66aef
Costs twice as much, but it's much easier to install; you don't need to buy as many tools, UV glue and gunk remover. Plus there's a high chance of breaking the lcd when separating it from your broken screen, so you could well end up having to buy both anyway.
I read something about the replacement lcds being lower quality though, I don't know how noticeable that would be, but if you pay with paypal you'd probably be able to get your money back.
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The link is dead. But i guess the product refers to complete front panel of phone. I did same thing. The panels are China made. The quality is no where close to original. I suggest you to not buy it online. You should go to mobile repair store and ask them to do it. The reason is the panels are faulty and if so then they will quickly replace it. I did couple of time after which got a better one.

Anyone gone through front glass replacement?

Recently got a GS5 and my mom doesn't have a phone right now so I'm handing my N4 down to her. The front glass is cracked and I wanted to get that fixed before I do. The digitizer and lcd are not broken, just the glass, everything else looks and functions fine. I guess what my question is, if I take it to a repair shop can they just replace the front glass or am I looking at around 100ish to replace it all? I'll be going in and getting quoted but just wanted to see if I got any input from here first, it will likely be a week or so before I take it anywhere due to this damn weather.

wareju said:
Recently got a GS5 and my mom doesn't have a phone right now so I'm handing my N4 down to her. The front glass is cracked and I wanted to get that fixed before I do. The digitizer and lcd are not broken, just the glass, everything else looks and functions fine. I guess what my question is, if I take it to a repair shop can they just replace the front glass or am I looking at around 100ish to replace it all? I'll be going in and getting quoted but just wanted to see if I got any input from here first, it will likely be a week or so before I take it anywhere due to this damn weather.
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The same thing happened with my friends N4. The glass, digitizer and LCD all had to be replaced as they all come as one unit. Cannot get them separately.

Amazon/ebay has parts where you can just order the LCD/Digitizer etc, but then to separate them you have to have a heat gun etc. if you touch any part by mistake you will get finger prints or smudges permanently. So not a good idea unless you are one of those super careful person. http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-Nexus-4-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
if you are handy, you can order the whole assembly online (amazon) for about 60 bucks or so) http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Screen-...r=8-1&keywords=nexus+4+lcd+screen+replacement
I personally got it replaced in So Flo for about 95 dollars + tax. I have been quoted about 140 at a chain fix up places.

bluesteve3 said:
The same thing happened with my friends N4. The glass, digitizer and LCD all had to be replaced as they all come as one unit. Cannot get them separately.
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Sure they do. FYI, the "glass" is[ the digitizer. If "everything works", then technically all that needs replacing is the digitizer.
However, digitizer replacement is far from an easy thing to do. Not only does it require some specialist equipment (suction cups, heat gun, glue), you're probably going to screw it up unless you've done it before.
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Recently got a GS5 and my mom doesn't have a phone right now so I'm handing my N4 down to her. The front glass is cracked and I wanted to get that fixed before I do. The digitizer and lcd are not broken, just the glass, everything else looks and functions fine. I guess what my question is, if I take it to a repair shop can they just replace the front glass or am I looking at around 100ish to replace it all? I'll be going in and getting quoted but just wanted to see if I got any input from here first, it will likely be a week or so before I take it anywhere due to this damn weather.
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You can buy just the screen assembly off eBay for about $45, which has the digitizer already mated with the LCD. However, this requires removal from the bezel (again, a heat gun is recommended), then gluing the new one back in. For $60 you can get the entire front assembly (hey, brand new phone!), which is the easiest way to go about things. I'd also recommend buying a new battery ($20) and replacing the old, tired one while you've got the phone apart.
It's not all that difficult to do it yourself. You'll need a T5 TORX driver, something thin, sturdy and plastic to pry the phone halves apart (you can buy screen assemblies that come with all these tools), and some patience. Do everything on a fluffy white towel so the little screws don't get lost. The tricky part is the little rubber gasket thingy that goes over the proximity/light sensor module. Most people who have done a screen replacement have found that reassembly screws up the prox sensor, causing it to always read "near" (meaning during a call the screen will stay off and you can't hang up or use the dialer). The common fix is to put the gasket in backwards.
There are a number of threads here, some youtube videos, and a good teardown tutorial on ifixit.com.

I thought the digitizer was what recognized touch input? Either way I don't think I'll be doing any of this work myself, I'll just take it up somewhere for her for the repairs.

wareju said:
I thought the digitizer was what recognized touch input?
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It is. It's built into the front panel of glass (which is made up of a bunch of different layers of stuff). Don't ask me how it works, it's all magic to me. But when you break the front glass, yet everything still works, that's the digitizer. If you look up digitizers on eBay you'll see that it's the front glass panel, with a cable and other electronic stuff attatched.
Either way I don't think I'll be doing any of this work myself, I'll just take it up somewhere for her for the repairs.
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It's honestly not all that difficult to do yourself. Hell, send me the phone and screen assembly, and I'll do it for free. Seriously. I'll even through in a couple TPU cases I'm not using.
If you do take it somewhere for repairs, make sure you ask what they're doing. Replacing the screen assembly, or replacing the digitizer. For a $100 fee, it could be either. They could buy a $20 digitizer and the remaining $80 is in labor, but it'll take them a lot of time and effort, or it could be a $45/$60 screen assembly that takes far less time and effort to do. Personally, it costing the same, I'd rather have the screen assembly replaced, since replacing only the digitizer can lead to complications. Since it has to be reglued onto the LCD, you might get bubbles, dust/lint, dead spots, and that rainbow affect when you hold it in the light at the right angle.

Looking to buy a cracked note 4

Hello all. I'm almost going to buy this with a cracked screen. I went through youtube and saw videos where people ruin the lcd while trying to fix the glass only repair. Is it always this hard? Is there a sure way to replace the glass only? Or one would need to replace the whole lcd (which is really expensive)
Thank you

jazzdglass said:
Hello all. I'm almost going to buy this with a cracked screen. I went through youtube and saw videos where people ruin the lcd while trying to fix the glass only repair. Is it always this hard? Is there a sure way to replace the glass only? Or one would need to replace the whole lcd (which is really expensive)
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Better to just replace the whole thing I just got mine replaced almost paid about 200 dollars the screen and the lcd is glued together I asked my cell phone repair man and he should me the screen and why it usually doesn't work out its because they are literally glued very very closely together trust it's not worth just getting the screen replaced because u will most likely have touchscreen issues yellowing issues etc ...... If u don't plan on upgrading your phone anytime soon I would say go for it I just did it because I plan on using my note 4 a little longer we have a lot of good development and marshmallow is near mate soon. ...

Yeah, you are better off replacing the entire front panel of the Note 4 or any Samsung flagship device. As the screen and display on Samsung flagships are all glued to together so replacing just the screen is a very hard job.

broke my screen!

Let a buddy hold my phone and my luck kicked in, he dropped it. It was a very light fall and only have it 2 cracks on the edge and one hairline Crack across the screen. Phone works fine and I can see and touch everything. I've heard it's pricey to replace the screen on this thing because the screen assembly is one piece? Meaning I can't just buy the glass? Any advice or helpful links to reputable sites would be greatly appreciated. I've always just bought a new phone when I Crack my screen but this phone cost too much to just sell off for cheap. Thanks in advance

I need some help guys. No repair shop will touch the phone without replacing the glass and lcd and charging $399. I've seen multiple people claim to have changed the glass only and looking online that part isn't expensive at all. If anyone can confirm their success I may make the attempt to do it my self. I've already spent $400 on this phone so I'd like to spend as little as possible to fix it

Called every shop I could and all said it would he anywhere from 350-400 for the whole lcd assembly. I asked every store (in my state and neighboring state) if they could just replace the glass and all said no. So my question is if anyone reading this has a link to a reputable site to get the lcd assembly, under $270 if possible. And lastly, if I buy the necessary tools and watch videos, what's the chances of messing up the phone replacing the WHOLE lcd assembly, if I've never used a heat gun to remove glass? I've replaced the lcd assembly on my lg g2 but the back being plastic eliminated the need for any heat. I'm lost and don't want to spend $400 more.

No way to replace only the glass without risking damage to the AMOLED screen or digitizer. The screen is glued together, and a slight force will cause the screen to shatter. If you want to take that risk, you can go ahead and look up a tutorial, but it seems to be very difficult to only replace the glass and not the entire assembly(Thats why repair shops don't do them as the chance of failure is too high)

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No way to replace only the glass without risking damage to the AMOLED screen or digitizer. The screen is glued together, and a slight force will cause the screen to shatter. If you want to take that risk, you can go ahead and look up a tutorial, but it seems to be very difficult to only replace the glass and not the entire assembly(Thats why repair shops don't do them as the chance of failure is too high)
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What's the cheapest option? Buy the whole lcd assembly and change it my self? Or pay samsung and wait? I bought this second hand from a guy who come to find out still owed payments so no insurance route is possible. I'd have to send in my phone and wait

brd912 said:
What's the cheapest option? Buy the whole lcd assembly and change it my self? Or pay samsung and wait? I bought this second hand from a guy who come to find out still owed payments so no insurance route is possible. I'd have to send in my phone and wait
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Well, cheapest option is to do as you said, replace the glass. But if you fail during the process, your only bet would be to replace the whole assembly, and even if you had warranty, that would be completely voided. So if you are going to replace the assembly anyway, might be worth a try to separate the glass, and replace only the glass. And if it fails, you can just replace the entire assembly. But if you plans to send it to Samsung anyway, I would suggest you to do that without any diy modification to the device. If you are planning to buy the assembly, make sure you get a genuine OEM screen. I saw a lot of fake China lcd assembly, and S7 have amoled at much better resolution.

I had a S6, and display while glueing? itself off, cracked the whole amoled screen completely. And Edge is even more dangerous. So all You can do is to pretty much either replace it Yourself (not too difficult if You ask me) but You will eventually make it not waterproof anymore. And You might break something while fixing it(like the paint or the back panel, although paint 90%) and then You will have to pay even more. Or just take it to repair service, pay.. I don't know. 50-100$ more and get a professional repair without any risk. And if it's going to be made by Samsung, You still might have waterproof phone after that. So I guess You should take it to a repair service. 50-100$ more, but trust me. You will most likely mess up the pain and ruin Your phone visually. As well as You will need to buy tiny screw drivers, some flat plastic tool, and adhesive tape. And sometimes using a hair dryer to open the back, will destroy some components inside. So be careful with that as well.
Or sell Your friends kidneys and pay for the repair

This sucks dude. I could literally purchase a nexus 6 for less than the price to fix this phone. I've looked at every phone out right now and nothing catches my eye like this one. I'd almost opt to buy the 3t before spending 400 to have a shop repair this one

If ur friend has insurance maybe they would pay for it. If not.
A new screen costs around 200$ from ebay or etrade supply. Those one come even without a samsung logo like the models in asia. Which imo looks super cool. If you a that screen transfering the old stuff isn't that hard. And there are many tutorials online. Maybe you could split? I mean he dropped it even if it's on accident he could give like 100$ then you have to spend 100$.
You could sell ur S7 edge. Trust me if it's just cracked and everything else is working you will find someone that buys it. In Germany you could get something between 250€~ 300€ for that. And then you spend again maybe 200€ and get a new or used one thats in good condition.
There are few options that you have. I wouldn't go to repair shops because they are often overpriced and don't treat ur stuff well.
And one last thing. Forget about replacing only the glas because that is impossible.

So if I buy the whole lcd assembly, all I need to do is heat up the back, cut the adhesive with a guitar pick, remove screws and unhook the connectors and replace?

yes exactly like that. like i said there are a ton of guides like on ifixit or on youtube. bur instead of a guitar pick i would you a playing card or pokemon card or something. the guitar pick or metal tools can scratch the backplate and the "sticker".

Broken screen

Unfortunately my screen broke, the LCD is working fine, and recognizes touches.
Is it possible to change only the glass and digitizer? Eg
I'm afraid of LCD panels from eBay. The service said that warranty is void at all events (even if they repair it).

I'm currently in the same situation. Any update on your phone's screen?
A local repair shop can't fix it unless I buy a panel myself and let them fix it for me. I want to know what I need if the glass is broken, but touches and LCD are fine: just glass or a complete screen replacement, like this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Rau...Panel-Replacement-for-Xiaomi/32835465822.html .

I will order a complete LCD panel with frame and try to replace myself. But I don't know if they are the same quality as original.
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I'm currently in the same situation. Any update on your phone's screen?
A local repair shop can't fix it unless I buy a panel myself and let them fix it for me. I want to know what I need if the glass is broken, but touches and LCD are fine: just glass or a complete screen replacement, like this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Rau...Panel-Replacement-for-Xiaomi/32835465822.html .
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Let us know when you do! Please also specify which replacement you bought. It's a good idea to document these things, because in the coming years many more people will break their screens, unfortunately, but we can help them finding out what screens are worth buying.
I'm especially interested in touch performance and LCD similarity to the original. If you could pay attention to those properties and comment on them when you know, that would be really helpful.

Never try replacing one yourself, no matter how tempting and easy it looks on youtube videos, without proper gears and experience, you will end up damaging the whole panel. I know because I tried and failed myself and ended up buying the whole front panel with the LCD.
It will be much cheaper to buy it off ebay and let a experienced guy do it.

Did you tried with LCD+frame kit? It looks much easier that way. What happened exactly?
billysam said:
Never try replacing one yourself, no matter how tempting and easy it looks on youtube videos, without proper gears and experience, you will end up damaging the whole panel. I know because I tried and failed myself and ended up buying the whole front panel with the LCD.
It will be much cheaper to buy it off ebay and let a experienced guy do it.
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Sec0nd said:
Did you tried with LCD+frame kit? It looks much easier that way. What happened exactly?
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I was trying the glass with digitizer which was pretty much cheap, which needs to be removed with proper gears and lot of patience with a heat gun(I have seen local shop guys doing it without them with ease), It was an old samsung s3 which I kept to experiment on, ended up buying the whole front assembly which I did installed successfully(made me feel a lot better). That looks easy and there is less of chance of any breaking, unless you are very careful in removing all the tiniest sensors and wire and put them accordingly, but then you have to carefully pick the whole assembly there are plenty of low quality ones around, where you might get one that gives issues. for instance on Samsung s3 it was an original amoled display. but I got one that was an LCD panel display and there were issues where brightness sensor didn't worked at all.
Your best bet would be an original LCD+frame kit, I don't know if you really can get one off ebay.
So my three advices.
1. try to get only the glass with digitizer off ebay(If your Display works), then let a local expert change it. much cheaper and let you avoid getting a low quality LCD panel.
2. If it's your first time, I would suggest doing it on a cheaper phone to test your skills, I wouldn't recommend doing it for first timers who have no experience of doing it. there is high possibility that you might break a sensor or a wire.
3. if you want to go ahead with a whole new kit from ebay, make sure you check it without removing any sticker, and connect that display with the motherboard and see if the display is really good and make sure you check the brightness and touch. only if you are satisfied then go ahead, or return the product.

Thank you for the advices!
I couldn't find anybody, who can replace only the glass and digitizer.
The screen and digitizer work fine, only the glass is broken.
billysam said:
I was trying the glass with digitizer which was pretty much cheap, which needs to be removed with proper gears and lot of patience with a heat gun(I have seen local shop guys doing it without them with ease), It was an old samsung s3 which I kept to experiment on, ended up buying the whole front assembly which I did installed successfully(made me feel a lot better). That looks easy and there is less of chance of any breaking, unless you are very careful in removing all the tiniest sensors and wire and put them accordingly, but then you have to carefully pick the whole assembly there are plenty of low quality ones around, where you might get one that gives issues. for instance on Samsung s3 it was an original amoled display. but I got one that was an LCD panel display and there were issues where brightness sensor didn't worked at all.
Your best bet would be an original LCD+frame kit, I don't know if you really can get one off ebay.
So my three advices.
1. try to get only the glass with digitizer off ebay(If your Display works), then let a local expert change it. much cheaper and let you avoid getting a low quality LCD panel.
2. If it's your first time, I would suggest doing it on a cheaper phone to test your skills, I wouldn't recommend doing it for first timers who have no experience of doing it. there is high possibility that you might break a sensor or a wire.
3. if you want to go ahead with a whole new kit from ebay, make sure you check it without removing any sticker, and connect that display with the motherboard and see if the display is really good and make sure you check the brightness and touch. only if you are satisfied then go ahead, or return the product.
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Sec0nd said:
Thank you for the advices!
I couldn't find anybody, who can replace only the glass and digitizer.
The screen and digitizer work fine, only the glass is broken.
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I saw MiA1 LCD panel, Touchscreen and digitizer which is around $39-$46 on ebay, while I couldn't find just the glass with Digitizer. I think the best bet right now would be with the full kit with LCD. as they aren't selling without the LCD at the moment.
Although I would suggest you keep the original LCD panel with broken glass,(don't try to remove it yet, let the glue wear off itself until then) in case they do start to sell in future the glass with digitizer only. There could be a next time(who knows? or you can just sell that to someone), where you will at least have an original LCD, these things break very easily. be sure to keep them safe, and if you feel confident enough, you can try it yourself, just be careful with the glue, and the pins. go gentle, it's a surgery. best of luck!

I found several glass with digitizer on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...RS0&_nkw=Xiaomi+A1+touchscreen+glass&_sacat=0
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I saw MiA1 LCD panel, Touchscreen and digitizer which is around $39-$46 on ebay, while I couldn't find just the glass with Digitizer. I think the best bet right now would be with the full kit with LCD. as they aren't selling without the LCD at the moment.
Although I would suggest you keep the original LCD panel with broken glass,(don't try to remove it yet, let the glue wear off itself until then) in case they do start to sell in future the glass with digitizer only. There could be a next time(who knows? or you can just sell that to someone), where you will at least have an original LCD, these things break very easily. be sure to keep them safe, and if you feel confident enough, you can try it yourself, just be careful with the glue, and the pins. go gentle, it's a surgery. best of luck!
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billysam said:
I saw MiA1 LCD panel, Touchscreen and digitizer which is around $39-$46 on ebay, while I couldn't find just the glass with Digitizer. I think the best bet right now would be with the full kit with LCD. as they aren't selling without the LCD at the moment.
Although I would suggest you keep the original LCD panel with broken glass,(don't try to remove it yet, let the glue wear off itself until then) in case they do start to sell in future the glass with digitizer only. There could be a next time(who knows? or you can just sell that to someone), where you will at least have an original LCD, these things break very easily. be sure to keep them safe, and if you feel confident enough, you can try it yourself, just be careful with the glue, and the pins. go gentle, it's a surgery. best of luck!
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I love advices like that.U r smart.

I've also cracked my screen.... happened yesterday when I accidentally dropped it on concrete. Touch is working fine, only glass is broken.
So would be buying only the digitizer like this one: goo.gl/ZDPoFd do its job if I let it do at the local repair shop or buy the whole LCD as mentioned above?

Roykooiman said:
I've also cracked my screen.... happened yesterday when I accidentally dropped it on concrete. Touch is working fine, only glass is broken.
So would be buying only the digitizer like this one: goo.gl/ZDPoFd do its job if I let it do at the local repair shop or buy the whole LCD as mentioned above?
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You're going to need to ask your local repair shop. Some shops will be able to replace the digitzers, others only do the full LCD assembly. Again others will not even accept repairs where you bring in the parts, they'll source the parts themselves.

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You're going to need to ask your local repair shop. Some shops will be able to replace the digitzers, others only do the full LCD assembly. Again others will not even accept repairs where you bring in the parts, they'll source the parts themselves.
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I've contacted a local repair shop and said they couldn't do only the digitizer, but they can do the whole LCD repair which will cost me 25 euro. Now I have to find the right one..... as you have so much variant on Ebay and Alie. U have a suggestion on which one to choose?

My MI A1 display is craked .but display is working and phone functions are working .just I ask you if I using the craked display for long time is it problem come.phone sold 3 days ago so I cannot want to repair the lcd. .Plz advice

I bought this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...izer-Display-For-Xiaomi-MiA1/32831902856.html
I let a local phone repair shop do the repair for me. They did a great job. The screen itself is also great. I think it could be an original, as I can't tell any difference. The colours seem the same, it measures up to 10 simultaneous touches (like the original), the performance feels identical. I recommend this screen! I've also left a review with pictures on Ali Express, but it's still being processed.
I ordered a white screen for my black Mi A1, so now I have a stormtrooper! (or panda, whatever you want...)
Screen plus repair in total about €60, well worth it IMO. It's quite a fraction of the original purchase price, but hey, I shouldn't have dropped the phone after a month. I've also ordered a plain black back cover to help me better grip the device.

erikieperikie said:
I bought this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...izer-Display-For-Xiaomi-MiA1/32831902856.html
I let a local phone repair shop do the repair for me. They did a great job. The screen itself is also great. I think it could be an original, as I can't tell any difference. The colours seem the same, it measures up to 10 simultaneous touches (like the original), the performance feels identical. I recommend this screen! I've also left a review with pictures on Ali Express, but it's still being processed.
I ordered a white screen for my black Mi A1, so now I have a stormtrooper! (or panda, whatever you want...)
Screen plus repair in total about €60, well worth it IMO. It's quite a fraction of the original purchase price, but hey, I shouldn't have dropped the phone after a month. I've also ordered a plain black back cover to help me better grip the device.
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Do buttons light work ?

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Do buttons light work ?
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Yes! See attached images. The LED also works, but isn't on in the pictures.

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Yes! See attached images. The LED also works, but isn't on in the pictures.
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You are lucky then, because it's common for Xiaomi that the buttons won't lite when replacing screen.

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You are lucky then, because it's common for Xiaomi that the buttons won't lite when replacing screen.
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I didn't know that! It wouldn't have been bad, because I don't like the button backlight at all: it's on for too short, it's too bright, it's not like I can't find the buttons and it's not like I don't know what functions the buttons have... I hope we can turn it down or off in the stock ROM in the future!