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I am having thoughts of installing a ssd drive inside htc shift. Is this possible? Has anybody tried it or dissasembly htc shift?
Thanks,
Lefteris
i dont know that im brave enuf to kill my warranty. If the drives are the same size and same power consumption and have the same mounting points then it should be easy.
That's a lot of ifs...
And if you look in Vista at the Experience index, you can see that the HD is fast enough
Okay, SSD is always a lot faster.
I forgot the big if,
IF you can afford one the proper size
If someone has very large juevos they could crack their shift open and take some pictures!!!
doh, daniel u should of done that before replacing it!!!!!
There are internal pics of the Shift on the FCC site.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...omFrame=N&application_id=542917&fcc_id='NM8CL'
good to know we can upgrade the harddrive very easily then
and the ram oh goody 2 gig chip
Those are very easy upgrades, does anyone know the part #s for the existing items?
We need a ghost of a prestine box, make sure one of the senior guys when they get their box to ghost is right away.
Well one thing for sure an extra gigabyte of ram would help.
But is does seems we need a very specific module to replace the RAM.
Any ideas where to buy such a module?
According to the FCC pictures the ram module is:
Qimonda
qty 8 of HYB18T1G160BFL-5 / 3VV08956 (also has 0724 and B on the chips)
on a double sided chip
http://www.qimonda.com/mobile-ram/ddr-18/index.html
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According to the FCC pictures the ram module is:
Qimonda
qty 8 of HYB18T1G160BFL-5 / 3VV08956 (also has 0724 and B on the chips)
on a double sided chip
http://www.qimonda.com/mobile-ram/ddr-18/index.html
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I had some trouble opening the link but now it seems to work.
The problems I see is that Qimonda is a producer of RAM chips, not a retailer/seller of modules.
And second they only list 1GB sets.
Third, where can we get our paws on a 2GB module?
Ouch,
I just located some 2GB DDR2 microDIMM RAM at 500 USD, the 1GB chips are 180 USD.
also we have to find out if the vista bios supports 2 GB DDR microDIMM, the bios they are running is very weak, i suppose we would have to get a new one of those too :/
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Ouch,
I just located some 2GB DDR2 microDIMM RAM at 500 USD, the 1GB chips are 180 USD.
also we have to find out if the vista bios supports 2 GB DDR microDIMM, the bios they are running is very weak, i suppose we would have to get a new one of those too :/
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Can you tell me where you found that 2GB DDR2 MicroDimm?
Ok that is a lot about RAM but how about a SSD?
I believe the BIOS should support 2 gigs. I asked the folks at HTC about this and they didn't indicate any issues beyond the challenge of opening the device and the fact that it does void the warranty.
http://www.amentio.se/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:2010473;c:36376;r:prisjakt
Please take a look at the specs and tell me if it would fit. I am new to this so wanna be sure.
premier69 said:
http://www.amentio.se/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:2010473%3bc:36376%3brrisjakt
Please take a look at the specs and tell me if it would fit. I am new to this so wanna be sure.
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The MSD-PATA3018-032-ZIF1 is an 8mm drive (height), so no, it won't fit. You want the MSD-PATA3018-032-ZIF2 which is 5mm in height.
Google told me that
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=208242&page=303&highlight=2510p
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Originally Posted by Tomy B.
I did some research and find out that there is two versions of Mtron Mobi 3000 1.8" 32GB with ZIF.
Does anyone know is there any difference between MSD-PATA3018-032 ZIF1 and MSD-PATA3018-032 ZIF2, except thickness (first one is 8 mm, second 5 mm) and price.
Is there some reason for MSD-PATA3018-032 ZIF2 to be cheap?
If someone can recommend any 2.5" SSD with 44-pin IDE or 1.8" with ZIF just let me know. 32 GB is just enough. I had Samsung 1.8" with 50-pin IDE, but it was 16 GB (around 15GB actually), so 50-pin IDE will work too.
The only difference betweem the ZIF1 and ZIF2 is the height. The ZIF2 (5mm) is being produced for regular orders by Mtron, so you will find this easily available (http://rocketdisk.com/index.php?cPath=15) but the ZIF1 (8mm) is only being produced for OEMs and other special situations.
There is no reason for it to be so cheap, other than good value
The performance is really awesome & as you have probably seen on notebookreview.com there are lots of happy customers!! ---- end quote
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btw: I buyed yesterday a MSD-PATA3018-032-ZIF2 within Ebay. We will see how fast it is. But I think this is the fastest ATA-7 1,8" HDD on Market. Mtron announced a 64 and 128GB Version as well a few months ago, but I never see anything like this.. :-(
So, the Transformer uses 1 stick of DDR2 RAM which is 1GB. I'm assuming it only has one slot for RAM anyways. But I know there are 4GB DDR2 sticks available. So why couldn't we manually do it? Sure, the thing seems more sealed shut than a laptop/netbook... So anyone know what speed the RAM is?
Sure, 1GB of RAM is more than enough for Honeycomb, but I'm thinking ahead; when Windows 8 is available, when we can run Ubuntu natively, and of course do other crazy, thought-provoking things.
You can never have enough RAM!
Wow that sounds like a really good idea.
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Memory is soldered to the board. Memory requirements for Android and Linux are far less than those required by Microsoft OS.
I am almost 100% certain that you cannot upgrade the RAM in the Transformer. With most modern mobile devices the ram module is directly soldered to the motherboard and not intended to be replaced.
Tf does not use a memory stick,but a module soldered to the board. In addition, the processor / OS may not support larger RAM space.
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Tf does not use a memory stick,but a module soldered to the board. In addition, the processor / OS may not support larger RAM space.
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Oh shoot that is right as well. Tegra 2 can only support up to 1 gig of RAM.
I have been using my Archos 101 tablet for a few months now, I quite like it, and have tried a few of the different android builds available to download. I am keen to try and upgrade the ram, as 256MB is not alot. This is the progress I have made so far, I hope that maybe other people can add to it. First step is to find a suitable ram module that has the same pinouts, and specs, but with larger capacity. The ram module is marked "OVA18 D9LBZ". Using Microns FBGA decoder We find that the full part number of the ram module is "MT46H64M32LFMA-6 IT:A". If we go to microns list of available low power DDR modules we can see that there are available a 512MB and a 1GB version. (note that they are listed in megabits, not megabytes, so the original 256 megabyte module is a "2gb" size, 512MB is "4gb" and 1GB is "8gb")
I am in the UK, and havent yet found a uk supplier, but I found the 1GB module available in the US for about 50 US dollars.
I dont know what the max ram limit of the cpu is, I have read somewhere that the OMAP3630 cpu can support max 1GB, but cant remember where.
Im my mind there are two further problems once the chip has been bought:
1. physically removing the old ram module and fitting the new one. my plan is to setup a spring with one end glued/fixed somehow to the top of the old ram module, and then put the mainboard in the oven, and once the solder melts the spring will pull the ram chip off. Or it might pull the ram chip and the cpu at the same time. Then put tiny bits of solder on all the pins of the new ram module, align it ontop of the cpu, maybe under slight pressure, and put it back in the oven and hope that all of the solder joints connect properly. Quite a few of the pins are not used, so we can get away with 1 or 2 pins not connected. One concern I have is that in the spec sheet alot of the pins are labelled NC for not connected, but several have DNU which I take to mean "do not use". If these end up connected aswell then will this work or not. Another idea is instead of soldering the new chip on, we could polish the pins on the cpu really smooth and also polish the pins on the ram chip, and build a clip/holder type device, it might be possible to run the system with the ram chip just held under pressure on the cpu. We would need to stop the chip moving sideways also.
2. There may be a firmware issue with the new ram module, the system may not recognize the ram chip at all, or only address 256MB of it, because that is what its expecting to be there. I have seen a tutorial on upgrading the ram on an xbox and this is the problem they had, the new ram runs fine but only the original amount that was installed can be used without significant software changes. Hopefully archos have not made it too difficult for us.
These are my thoughts so far, I hope we can make some progress, or at least work out why it cant be done before destroying any hardware. I have links to the FBGA decoder, microns list of lp ddr chips, and the supplier of the 1GB chip, but as this is my first post I am not allowed to post links yet! PM me and I will send you the links.
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To be able to support bigger memory both memory controller of OMAP and pcb itself MUST have additional address lines. I almost sure that OMAP has at least 512MB support but not sure if Archos did preparation for bigger memory chip on board.
Also replacing of memory BGA chip not so simple and may cost more than new tablet
I am hoping that the larger memory chips still use the same interface, and therefore the same pin layout as the 256MB chip, as the link for the datasheet for 512MB and 1GB modules is the same as for the 256MB chip. So I dont think any additional data lines are needed.
Yes im sure your right, buying a later tablet will have larger ram module as standard, but I just like to tinker with things
Wikipedia list a few phones that use the omap 3630 cpu, and therefore probably use a ram module soldered ontop as in the archos. The motorola cliq 2 has 512MB of ram, as does the palm pre 2, the nokia n9 has 1GB ram but is a fairly new phone and still expensive to buy. I am going to looking out for a damaged mobile (cracked screen etc) and hope that the ram module is intact.
PPCtech did such an upgrade for the venerable HP hx4700, for $130 including material and shipment.
You'll need rework equipment (special kind of heat gun, not that expensive ($60 is the cheapest)), in an oven you'll probably kill components that were added later on (audio jack etc) and can't stand heat.
If you have the right equipment, it's not that hard to do. You'll heat the RAM chip till you can gently pull it off. Then you'll clean the PCB of solder residue. Next you put on solder paste using a BGA screen made for the chip you want to use.
Then you put the new RAM ic in the correct position (using a microscope to align it correctly), and locally heat it using the heat gun.
Then you pray it worked, or retry (best with a new RAM chip, but they can stand quite some heat, so reusing should be possible).
Problem is that you don't know for sure it could work, thus it's unclear if the error was in the soldering or in the firmware....
Sweet project! Any updates?
What would be the best components to upgrade on my setup
Intel Core i5-8400
8GB RAM
1TB HDD
4GB Intel Optane
Nvidia GTX 1050
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What would be the best components to upgrade on my setup
Intel Core i5-8400
8GB RAM
1TB HDD
4GB Intel Optane
Nvidia GTX 1050
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Hello,
that depends on what you want to do with your PC. The mainboard is the base and limiter for all other components except the power supply(in most cases).
Well, i only have a acer pre-built the motherboard is acers....
I want to use it for video rendering or gaming
It can run pretty much anything I think I've seen people upgrade it to an rtx and stuff
@Kenora_I if it was me, and I just did this upgrade 2 weeks ago and am loving it, If your 1tb of storage isn't a Nvme/M.2 I would do that. I had a 2.5 in sata had and for $80 on Newegg I got a WD 1TB sata m.2 and it's night and day difference. Boots in like 15 secs, instant response when multitasking etc. And I just use PC for everything but gaming. So coding/compiling is a mind blown difference lol
If I was you I would start saving for a new built to be honest, aim for a B550/B550M with a Ryzen 5600X for example. Video rendering and gaming will soon become a stretch on that system if it isn't already.
Assuming the power supply is non standard and not easily upgraded, the only real bottleneck that can be remedied is storage. Agree an M2 ssd would be best upgrade likely available.
CamoGeko said:
If I was you I would start saving for a new built to be honest, aim for a B550/B550M with a Ryzen 5600X for example. Video rendering and gaming will soon become a stretch on that system if it isn't already.
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I have the money, but I just hate the price inflation due to the chip shortages.
Dont wanna end up like one of those people with less RAM performance that LTT demonstrated in one of his vids
Kenora_I said:
I have the money, but I just hate the price inflation due to the chip shortages.
Dont wanna end up like one of those people with less RAM performance that LTT demonstrated in one of his vids
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I would build new since you have several things that could use an upgrade in the next year or two. Adding upgrades to an older oem board is just money you will never recover for an end result of a PC still in need of a mobo upgrade.
Building new doesn't have to be that expensive nor does it have to be overpriced ryzen. I threw together an example here . Room to expand RAM by 2 slots later if needed. Less than $600 bucks and could use your GTX 1050 until you get an email that it's your turn to buy card at MSRP.
EVGA's notify list works, may take 2 or 3 months but you can get a card at MSRP.
In my opinion it would be best to wait until prices falls down to regular prices.
But you may consider getting SSD and HDD as you've mentioned you would be playing games and 1TB isn't sufficient.
You can look for case or better case fan if needed.
Mechanical keyboard and Mouse can be consider too.
You haven't mentioned about the PSU you may also consider that if you are looking forward to getting power hungry GPU in future.
Get a cooler if needed if prices are fair enough for it. (if you get one then get one where you don't have to buy one if you choose to upgrade to latest CPU.
In my opinion this are some possible upgrade you can make with your currant build.
If in case you choose to make new build in future then don't upgrade anything in this build presuming that you don't have any issue with currant build and your build gets job done.
In short upgrade if needed or just don't upgrade besides storage.
tek3195 said:
EVGA's notify list works, may take 2 or 3 months but you can get a card at MSRP.
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I have been on the EVGA list since beginning of the year, the only email I got from them was to tell me they're swapping the model I actually wanted to a low hash model. Thanks EVGA, how about you just make me a GPU. It's been 6 months.
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I have been on the EVGA list since beginning of the year, the only email I got from them was to tell me they're swapping the model I actually wanted to a low hash model. Thanks EVGA, how about you just make me a GPU. It's been 6 months.
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Must depend on model. I signed up in Feb. and didn't have the money when 1660 ti came up, resubmitted for 1660 super and got it a couple of weeks ago. It's gotta be model, location shouldn't matter I wouldn't think. I don't know how they do it, but 6 months sucks.
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I have been on the EVGA list since beginning of the year, the only email I got from them was to tell me they're swapping the model I actually wanted to a low hash model. Thanks EVGA, how about you just make me a GPU. It's been 6 months.
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lol
ohjabarn said:
Tempted to upgrade my 2080 ti to a gigabyte 3080 ti so got it from NEWEGG however not certain my PSU would be adequate. PSU and everything (I imagine) that draws power are recorded underneath:
1 x Seasonic Focus Plus 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply
1 x Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor
1 x Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite Intel Z390 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit
1 x Samsung 2TB 860 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 64 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive
6 x Corsair ML120 Pro RGB 120mm Premium Fan with Lighting Node
1 x Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 air cooler
Cheers generally functioning admirably.
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You should be good, 750W is what EVGA Power Meter recommends for the components you listed. There are quite a few power supply calculators available online.
So, it really depends on what you want to do with your PC. Do you want to make your PC more suitable for gaming or work? As an example, I use editing software from Movavi and it requires a lot of good components such as SSD, high-end processor and of course a lot of RAM. From my point of view, you need to change your HDD to SSD and add more RAM, so you'll have a very powerful machine.
Now would be the time to start looking at things as prices are falling.
Hello everyone!
First of all thanks to those who read and / or respond and sorry for my English.
I'm thinking of building a build with a budget around €450\€500.
The use that I will make of this pc is relatively basic, casual game without big pretensions, surfing the web, streaming, watching videos, music, modding with the phone and the like, but I would like a good pc, which at least as long as my current one, 14 years old, (that's why it's time to retire that acer intel 2 duo).
Let's get down to business, the configuration I thought of (after hours of research and pricing) is this.
{For the moment without a dedicated video card because otherwise I have to sell a kidney ...}
MOBO:
ASUS TUF GAMING B560M-PLUS WIFI LGA 1200;
CPU:
IINTEL i3 10320 or 10100;
RAM:
G.SKILL RIPJAWS V DDR4 3200 MHZ 8GB (2X4GB) CL16;
SSD:
SAMSUNG 980 M.2 250 GB PCI EXPRESS 3.0 V-NAND NVME;
PSU:
EVGA 450 80+ BRONZE 450W
CASE:
AEROCOOL BIONIC -G-BK-V2;
in addition I also have 4 hhd sata, 320gb, 250gb, 160gb and 120gb, which I will replace later with a 500gb or 1tb hdd or ssd.
This is my starting point while staying in a budget of 480 €, which I would later like to enrich with a new hdd \ ssd, dedicated video card, and maybe 2 more ram banks. I chose this motherboard because I trust asus and then in a more distant future I can replace the cpu with an 11th generation one.
What do you think?
Advice?
some advice
for cpu: i have no comment/advice. assuming you already know the 10100 have integrated gpu and also comes with cooler
for mobo: do you have router/modem installed in your house (direct lan connection pc to router). if you do have, you dont need extra wifi module for your mobo, go for non wifi version instead or asus prime b560m (if its cheaper)
for ram/case: if you're fine with second hand ram/case, try looking that instead (ram with 2x8GB), it might be cheaper buying second hand ram/case than buying brand new.
for psu: dont cheap out your psu, if you're planning for upgrade adding gpu later its best to have good quality psu first. do your research, if you dont have money still, you can search for second hand good quality PSU atleast 500w 80+ bronze is minimum for rtx 30 /rx 6000 (evga br/bq, corsair, coolermaster, be quiet, fractal)
storage: samsung 980 is good ssd, but 256gb is not enough. i dont recommend you buying second hand ssd, there is still cheap but good ssd 2.5 inch sata
for the laptop itself: upgrading ram, upgrading to 2.5inch ssd, and install linux just for fun might a good idea, or just be a backup in case there is trouble with your new pc
hope it help you
edit: added be quiet, fractal brand
@Animalizers hi!
Thanks for reading and replying and for the good advice.
For the cpu I'm opting for the 10320 because I find it almost at the same price as the 10100, it seems a minimum more performing.
Yes, I know that it has the integrated gpu, so for the moment I can use the pc without having to take a dedicated graphics.
For the mobo I have seen that with b560m (prime or others) without wifi it costs less, however, having a router a bit far from where I will mainly go to put the pc (I will use a smart TV as a monitor) the cable connection would be cumbersome for daily use, is the reason why the wifi module is more convenient.
For the ram \ case \ psu I prefer the new one because I find the ram at 43 € \ + -50 $, the case at the same price as the ram and the psu the same.
I don't know how much I could save with the used one, but at that price it is definitely better to have a 2 or more year warranty.
Always for the ram I am undecided on the frequency, because I have read that the 10100 \ 10320 supports a maximum of 2666mhz and perhaps with the xmp profiles I can not make them work at 3200mhz, even if in anticipation of a cpu upgrade it is better to have them already at 3200 too if for the moment they will work without.
For the psu and the ssd you are right, in anticipation of a future upgrade, it is better to have a 500 \ 550w psu and a minimum of 500gb ssd, even if I intend to install only the so and some programs, then for the rest of the data use the other hhd's and keep the ssd as clean as possible.
For the laptop I have already increased the ram (recycled from another broken one) to 4gb, but the system can only manage 3 and 1 for the hardware, only that many programs I use do not run with linux so I am forced to use it with that boulder of win10 (I really care, it was my first pc ) in fact I thought I would immediately take an SSD to then transfer to the new one, I will definitely keep it as a spare, as I keep another desktop assembled by me with recycled pieces from other computers but he too is very obsolete mounts an amd athton 64x2, also 3gb ram and with linux it is pretty good.
now I would really like to have something of the new generation, as I said before I have been standing still for 14 years with my Acer but now it is very tried, look at these photos
I bought optiplex 990 renewed version from Amazon at just 180 pounds. It has i7 processor, 16gb ram, 250gb ssd + 1tb HDD, Windows 10 pro OEM installed.
Only down side is, it has only integrated intel graphics 2000HD. But if you purchase Nvida gt1030 low profile grafics card for another 80 pounds, will easily fit in to the rig...
@manurahim hi!
hi! I have seen the refurbished of amazon and for those prices they are apeatable offers.
However, as I said before, my maximum budget is 500 euros which would be more or less 428 pounds or 580 dollars, my intent is to assemble a pc with a penultimate or last generation configuration, therefore trying to avoid pre-assembled or reconditioned \ regenerated.
In those I have seen on Amazon are mounted i5 \ i7 second, third or maximum fourth generation, this means that they are cpu of 2011 \ 2012 and are almost the age of my acer.
Note that an i7 2xxx or 3xxx has the same features as an i3 10xxx, only it is a newer (2020) cpu and is on the win11 compatible cpu list.
I would like to assemble it myself because I like to do it and then with a good research and a little patience you can save something compared to a pre-assembled configuration
Oh. Ok.
RollDload said:
@Animalizers hi!
Thanks for reading and replying and for the good advice.
For the cpu I'm opting for the 10320 because I find it almost at the same price as the 10100, it seems a minimum more performing.
Yes, I know that it has the integrated gpu, so for the moment I can use the pc without having to take a dedicated graphics.
For the mobo I have seen that with b560m (prime or others) without wifi it costs less, however, having a router a bit far from where I will mainly go to put the pc (I will use a smart TV as a monitor) the cable connection would be cumbersome for daily use, is the reason why the wifi module is more convenient.
For the ram \ case \ psu I prefer the new one because I find the ram at 43 € \ + -50 $, the case at the same price as the ram and the psu the same.
I don't know how much I could save with the used one, but at that price it is definitely better to have a 2 or more year warranty.
Always for the ram I am undecided on the frequency, because I have read that the 10100 \ 10320 supports a maximum of 2666mhz and perhaps with the xmp profiles I can not make them work at 3200mhz, even if in anticipation of a cpu upgrade it is better to have them already at 3200 too if for the moment they will work without.
For the psu and the ssd you are right, in anticipation of a future upgrade, it is better to have a 500 \ 550w psu and a minimum of 500gb ssd, even if I intend to install only the so and some programs, then for the rest of the data use the other hhd's and keep the ssd as clean as possible.
For the laptop I have already increased the ram (recycled from another broken one) to 4gb, but the system can only manage 3 and 1 for the hardware, only that many programs I use do not run with linux so I am forced to use it with that boulder of win10 (I really care, it was my first pc ) in fact I thought I would immediately take an SSD to then transfer to the new one, I will definitely keep it as a spare, as I keep another desktop assembled by me with recycled pieces from other computers but he too is very obsolete mounts an amd athton 64x2, also 3gb ram and with linux it is pretty good.
now I would really like to have something of the new generation, as I said before I have been standing still for 14 years with my Acer but now it is very tried, look at these photos
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Why not just do the core i5 10400, or 10400f ? I mean there's a maybe $60 difference, and performance is right nice for the price. Same with mobo, go a z490 or z590 and give some future upgrades. I just ordered a msi z590A pro and a 10600k for $399
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Why not just do the core i5 10400, or 10400f ? I mean there's a maybe $60 difference, and performance is right nice for the price. Same with mobo, go a z490 or z590 and give some future upgrades. I just ordered a msi z590A pro and a 10600k for $399
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i looked and with that extra $ 60 i go over budget, surely the performance with that cpu and motherboard is better, but with 390 $ I get the b560 (with wifi which for me is very useful even if I lose some features with a less expensive chipset) the 10320 and the ram
RollDload said:
i looked and with that extra $ 60 i go over budget, surely the performance with that cpu and motherboard is better, but with 390 $ I get the b560 (with wifi which for me is very useful even if I lose some features with a less expensive chipset) the 10320 and the ram
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Look for local listings, facebook marketplace, amazon, get it used for even cheaper