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Refurbished Nexus 7(Grouper) is unnaturally sluggish no matter what I do, hope to find a solution that will speed it up just enough for reading and light internet usage.
-Overclocking helps just slightly.
-Would installing original(4.1 or 4.2) ROM make it work better or worse?
-Any ideas for a test that could find out what the problem is?(my guess is either RAM or maybe the CPU/GPU)
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I had screen discoloration on my Nexus 7 a loooong time ago, so I had it replaced by google under warranty. As soon as I got it I installed some custom ROM on it(because that's how I roll), which had sluggish performance. I figured it was due to an unstable ROM and was too lazy to do anything about it(because, that's also how I roll) for a couple of months. Since then I have tried various ROMs and they all have the same sluggishness.
I recently installed 5.0, which has such a terrible response time that it made it unusable. I was wondering if you guys can think of a way to find out the problem, or a method to speed the device up just enough to make it usable for light internet browsing and ebooks.
Mine was slow too. They did have problems with emmc. You could try running a fstrim manually and see if that helps..if not? Go back to 4.4.4, install a custom kernel like Metallice and slightly OC and make sure to run ART. Also root and greenify help a tonnnnn there as well. Good luck.
Sent from my Nexus 5 on Lollipop 5.0
So I'm looking to buy the Moto G 2014, and every review I've seen so far describes the performance as "OK, Fine, Not bad", even though my sister has a Galaxy S3 Neo (Which is running the same SOC but with a 0.5GB more ram) and the performance is stunning. So what do you think about it ? and if a ROM can make it even a better runner be sure to tell me.
Thanks a million !
Moto G xt1068 will be best in this price range..
It has got a lot of development.
Performance on Stock is fine, but the animations smoothness are crap, partially because Stock is 5.0.2, partially motorola's fault. Install an AOSP ROM (not CM12.1, it has some unnescessary things) and a decent kernel and then the performance will be way better. Its a good performance overall, for a 2013 mid range CPU.
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Thanks guys !! Really appreciate the help !
For what you pay you get better than OK
How much do you think it's ok to spend on extra 0.5gb ram? USD 20-25 I think its ok, but how much I will pay to not have touchwiz on my phone it's priceless.
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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flash titan prime 1.0.3 beta, it will blow your socks off
https://romhut.com/roms/titan-prime-rom-for-motorola-moto-g-2014-unified
composite_ said:
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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Stock 5.0.2 Lollipop, doesn't matter if is Titan Prime or Vanilla stock, it will be laggy, because its Android 5.0.2, if you want a decent performance on Lollipop yes, you will need a 5.1.1 Custom ROM, i think AOSP by LuK1337 has a great performance. Or just flash a 4.4.4 ROM (NOT CM11, its a bit more laggy than stock 4.4.4), i'm using PAC 4.4.4, Its not that stable, but it have 60FPS Animations and a great performance.
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Stock 5.0.2 Lollipop, doesn't matter if is Titan Prime or Vanilla stock, it will be laggy, because its Android 5.0.2, if you want a decent performance on Lollipop yes, you will need a 5.1.1 Custom ROM, i think AOSP by LuK1337 has a great performance. Or just flash a 4.4.4 ROM (NOT CM11, its a bit more laggy than stock 4.4.4), i'm using PAC 4.4.4, Its not that stable, but it have 60FPS Animations and a great performance.
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No Sir, you're absolutely wrong. I tried out AOSP, Quantum OS and even PA. Nothing comes close to how smooth Titan Prime is.
I get 20,000+ on antutu without even tweaking the kernel settings. And that says a lot.
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composite_ said:
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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Hi, I know exactly how you feel. I had a Nexus 5 and a OnePlus One before my G (Gen 2). Especially, after lollipop it had become so laggy, sometimes, I felt like throwing my phone. I rooted and started flashing roms on the G after I got done with college in the first week of April, and I haven't felt frustrated ever again. Great phone, with great development. If you want a rom that is fool proof, download Titan Prime 1.0.3 and use it with Stellar Kernel 5.0. (Also Xposed works perfectly on it)
After many years away from KitKat (2 years?), and a long list of nuisances (5.0 had neverending problems with Xposed, 5.1.1, any version, would close an app out of a sudden, and put my back to a sluggish, slow slow loading Home Screen), i took the decision and go back in time, and reinstall the golden - to me - version of android for the Z1: 4.4.4.
And yes its working fast fast as it should be with so powerful insides.
I dont know whats the problem with the newer versions, its not about lack of power on behalf of the Z1. It feels like memory leaks.
The KitKat isnt much different than every other versions that came after it. Tbh, the whole design got nailed down during IceCream and got prettier and prettier, but its essentially the same alot of years now.
What did i miss from 5.1.1? Quiet Hours. But i downloaded an app that does exactly that. I didnt even bother to root or apply TWRP.
Just wanted a fast computer that can make phones, play media, surf the Internet, make use of VoIP. !
I prefer 5.1.1
Well I have swayed a few times back and forth with 4.4 and 5.1 on my Xperia Z1, I've researched and got to the point where I realized the 5.1 improved this device a lot
Pros:
1. The battery life got a lot better
2. Precise multi touch up to 10 fingers (and more maybe)
3. Design is awesome
Cons:
1. There is some bug with the microphone, when I switch to loudspeaker during a call and switch back to phone mode then the other party will not hear me, so I avoid clicking that "Loud" button
So as you can see, for me there are more pros than cons in the update so I stick with it
I cant argue the fact that for you the 5.1 is working perfectly. Sadly for me its the exact opposite, whether its rooted or unrooted.
The 4.4.4 gives me all the good things the newer versions should give me, sans the updated interface.
Kitkat has slight lag compared to 5.1
On 5.1.1. Greenify is all I ever need off of root. With a little bit of "headroom" thanks to Greenify, I actually have my Z1 clock limited at 1.037GHz. Not laggy and perfectly usable.
i m on 5.1.1 and rooted with custom stock based rom and i dont have any major probs and no lags...m using my phone continuously(camera,watching videos,listening music,internet browsing,downloading files.) and m getting 1 and half day decent battery life i.e very good battery life. if i start using phone little lesser i may get upto 2 days battery life...
İ use Xperia z1 (c6903)5.1.1 .three days ago i uploaded mx rom v8.5.0....Normally everything is very beautiful but battery performance very very bad.i watching movie and The battery draining quickly.example my charge is %35 but later 1 minute %0. My english bad sorry.last month i try 4.3 jb and 4.4.4 kitkat.battery performance is perfectly.i want to back 4.3 jb...
I remember buying a Z1 for €630 when they came out brand new. It was so fast (I had been using phones like the first galaxy mini and iphone 3gs). I noticed even though it's still fast on 5.1 it always felt like it was faster using the older firmware for some reason. I have a Galaxy S7 now but I still own a Z1 too because I think it's still a really good phone, even 3 years later. I'm wondering whether to use a custom rom on the z1 and if so I have no idea which one to choose. The Z1 is a lot better than the first Z in terms of speed and battery life and I think the phone was ahead of it's time when they made it. It was the biggest upgrade from Z to Z1 than any other new Sony phone that came out after that in my opinion. You'd still use a Z1 now but with a Z you'd complain that it's going slow or that the battery is terrible.
As I said though before going too far off topic, I always felt that the phone ran smoother on kitkat than it does on lollipop. I have no idea why, maybe it's the ram usage or the way it reminds me of when I first bought a Z1.
Hey guys. It's been 4 years (almost 5) since i used this phone.
I bought this phone in 2014, it was trending in my country at that time and it was a pretty cool device. It was very big phone when i used it for the first time.
In Jelly bean 4.3 days: Obviously this is the original OS in this phone when you first bought it. It is pretty fast though. And i feel like I am using an s4 since their ui is similar. I never encountered lags since i am not playing games in this device. I am a light user. I only used it for text, calls, selfie and Facebook. Ohh I miss those days.
In KitKat 4.4.2 days: I was expecting a big change in this rom. When i saw the S5 ad, their ui was pretty cool and i always thought it will ship in this device but it did not. Its a little bit dissapointing for me. Until i get used to it.
By the way, i cant tell you the difference of 4.3 and 4.4.2. It only change the status bar icons to white! The performance is the same, the rest, just the same. Until i learned how to use custom roms. But at that time, kitkat custom roms was not very good. So i stayed and be contented in this os.
I expected lollipop on grand 2. Someone said it will happen, until i heard the news that grand 2 will receive lollipop and it is in development. And i was very excited!! I waited for months but sadly, they cancelled the update. So i was very sad.
Lollipop customs were available but im not used to stock android. I tried it but i dont like it in my opinion. Because i used only samsung phones since 2011. Im a touchwiz lover. Even if someone called it lagwiz.
Until aapav developed motion rom and i was very happy that lollipop in grand 2 was actually pretty good!! It was very similar with the S5 lollipop rom so, dream come true!!
So,
In Lollipop 5.1.1 days: I was very happy that this phone can run tw lollipop very well. Everything is working fine. But it got lags already. The camera was not similar with kitkat. I cannot use the 1.9mp on the rom (because it has a camera bug that was not fixed until now and then) the rest, its very okay. It feels like I am using new phone again in 2016. My battery was slightly bad and i need to charge my phone 2 times a day. I used lollipop rom until november 2018.
I saw a post that S5 mini receives marshmallow update so i expected that devs will port tw mm on grand 2. And it actually happened! But it has a lot of bugs and it made my phone not usable.
And I decided to with nougat roms because it became stable so i tried it.
In Nougat 7.1.2: my phone feels different. It was not surprising for me since a stock android (im a lagwiz lover remember) but at least it shows android 7.1.2 haha.
But i encounted a lot of problems. My battery is bad and it overheats my phone. So i stopped using it and went back to kitkat temporarilly.
Thankfully, tw mm development was still alive!! And i was very hyped! I waited days to post the rom. Finally bluetooth was fixed! So i used it. Until now.
Marshmallow 6.0.1 (Now): Similar to motion rom, but without stable cam. The rest is pretty fine. But i like the battery in this rom. It made me charge once a day!
I know its almost 2019 and my Galaxy Grand 2 gets old. But my software experience was still not obsolete for today's standards. Marshmallow is still fine in late 2018. If you ask me how my phone looks, i bought hard case with privacy tempered glass. Pretty cool actually, it makes your phone brand new.
I love my phone. I wont replace it until is really unusable. I cant believe that this phone can handle at least Android 7 even if this is old. Happy Grand 2 user here.
(This is my opinions, software experiences about this device. Please tell me your stories )
Dear guys,
i'm thinking about rooting or installing even a nice custom rom on the samsung galaxy a51 i just recently bought last week. i'm not sure, but in the past on other phones like nokia 7.2 or even more earlier on sony xperia and htc, i always got problems after it. phone app didnt worked, apps crashed, stock launcher didnt work, camera quality is lower than before and such. the worst thing i ever experienced was the massive increase in battery consumption. my battery was empty in half of the time.
so how is it with galaxy a51? will it increase the experience or will i hate my decision of rooting or even better - custom rom'ing it? its more a question of opinion, since i know that it would be possible. i just dont want to ruin my new device and gain disadvantages from the things im doing. but maybe there is something good that can happen out of it, so i just simply as for your opinions and ideas
Hi!
I use the current firmware with root and get pleasure from it. Nothing flies out, everything works perfectly, the battery holds the same. But I'm having trouble assembling custom firmware (GSI), and I have one firmware, but I haven't tested it. But in the near future the performance of this firmware should be checked by another person. At the moment, topical custom firmware under the 4th. On custom firmware, surprisingly, I work many functions. But sleep did not like how the fingerprint scanner works (on some firmware is highlighted not a separate area of the screen, and the entire screen). In addition, there remains the question of the full performance of the cameras. In terms of performance, custom shells should be faster, but the Havoc I tested seemed to me to be two more glitchy than Samsung's own shell.
My opinion: if you like OneUI and you want ROOT - you can get a lot of stock firmware.
Hello,
You can try this
Note:
1. Your phone Unlock Bootloader >> Click here for tutorial Unlock Bootloader
2. TWRP >> Click here to install TWRP for A51
All files >> Click here
Here is link to my thread GSI Havoc Android 10 for Samsung Galaxy A51
p0w3r_off said:
Dear guys,
i'm thinking about rooting or installing even a nice custom rom on the samsung galaxy a51 i just recently bought last week. i'm not sure, but in the past on other phones like nokia 7.2 or even more earlier on sony xperia and htc, i always got problems after it. phone app didnt worked, apps crashed, stock launcher didnt work, camera quality is lower than before and such. the worst thing i ever experienced was the massive increase in battery consumption. my battery was empty in half of the time.
so how is it with galaxy a51? will it increase the experience or will i hate my decision of rooting or even better - custom rom'ing it? its more a question of opinion, since i know that it would be possible. i just dont want to ruin my new device and gain disadvantages from the things im doing. but maybe there is something good that can happen out of it, so i just simply as for your opinions and ideas
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Custom ROM for A51 >> https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-a515x-refinedui-v1-0-oneui2-1-android10.4220373/
I am planning also to do these, unlock bootloader, install TWRP, root. What are the requirements needed for this? Version? Build? Exact model of A51? Will all applications run if I do these? Thank you