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hello there
got my note 2 weeks ago and i noticed a weird slowness
not in games but in everyday use its really annoying
the it cant be hardware problem right?
i mean..how can it be that such strong hardware cant hold
this software?
GUARDIANBD said:
hello there
got my note 2 weeks ago and i noticed a weird slowness
not in games but in everyday use its really annoying
the it cant be hardware problem right?
i mean..how can it be that such strong hardware cant hold
this software?
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Really strange 'cuz Note, even with stocks, is powerfull in terms of GPU and HW. Are you talking about its reactivity? Flashing other kernels and other ROMS you'd see the fastest device you can find right know, but I repeat, even with stocks I remember it was fast so it's too strange :banghead:
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My one works great. It might be your phone... try returning?
My acted the same. On stock rom it was choppy and laggy.
Custom fw solved the issue.
Same here...
Quite laggy and slow on stock firmware once I filled it up with apps.
Custom solved that though. I used Rocket v22, (full wipe when went to that final version along with Abyss 4.0). I got some strange results though, v22 was laggy for me and Abyss 4.2 got me battery drain. Also, Abyss 4.0 sometimes had the tendency to overheat. AGAIN, this is opposed to what most users have reported, so...might just be my phone, the way I use it...I don't know.
I finally found bliss in DarkyRom, with Franco Kernel. Smooth gaming, no lag (yet). Also, I've found ICS Roms to be really really smooth, although I had to go back to GB due to some features missing in these betas.
Thanks guys
Well im wait'n to the ics update..
Does anyone have a clue when its gonna released ?
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My only lag was in the Contacts,it usually took a long time to open,but a third party application solved it.
As for the ICS its better you check the sticky thread,the Moderater who is a bit temprimental guy could easily delete this thread as soon as he notices that word mentioned any other place than there.
However my personal opinion is that it wont come before the end of June.
Noticed this also. I am coming from an Epic 4G Touch and even completely stock that device was amazingly fast with everything. My Gnote was unbearably slow on the stock KK2 firmware and is a lot faster/smoother on LC1 with Franco Kernel 9. However still not as responsive/smooth as the Epic 4G Touch was for whatever reason.
I noticed that my Note is no as spritely as my old iPhone 4S.. I found after turning on it was better not to rush, pause for a split second and then everything is ok.
Thought so..
Im using startup auditor and now its much faster then before.
Hope that the update in june will fix the problems.. im kinda missing the 4s in teaems of camera quality but the overall performance are great.
too bad that the screen is Pentile based and not Plus..
Hope that the SGS3 will come out soon..
Thanks guys!
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I have noticed that my phone has become quite slow. My Nexus S is a contract phone and I think I have had it for almost 2 years. When i first got it - it felt snappy. Around that time, I did things like install kernals, custom roms, bootloader unlock etc. Then I went back to the stock rom.
I dont mind wiping the memory etc. As long as the important stuff is backed up like messages and contacts - everything else can go. I can reinstall when needed. So my question is - what do I have to do to regain the performance. Should I do a full reinstall? or install a custom ROM? or should I get a new phone (my contract ends this month)
Thanks
well, if you get the possibility, I would definitely go for an different phone. I don't know your budget, but I would go for a quad(/dual)-core phone, as mobile software seems to become heavier on a faster pace than before. I advise you this, because else your next phone will feel like your nexus s after two years, but than in one year. Of course this is just a prediction, so do whatever you wish to do
I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.
Androyed said:
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
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I also recommend this combination if you just want preformance. :good:
However, in my opinion, ROM performance is device dependent. What's fast for another may/may not be fast on your device. So be sure to try them all when you got time
ej8989 said:
I also recommend this combination if you just want preformance. :good:
However, in my opinion, ROM performance is device dependent. What's fast for another may/may not be fast on your device. So be sure to try them all when you got time
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Sure its device dependant, that is why I asked in this forum. Surely all the nexus s's are the same?
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Sure its device dependant, that is why I asked in this forum. Surely all the nexus s's are the same?
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Well yeah, but the fact that person A gets 4.5 hours on screen time with the same ROM/kernel and exact same settings won't mean you will also get 4.5 hours on screen time. The same goes for smoothness.
A question like "what's the fastest ROM/kernel combination" is very difficult to answer. But I think you can't go wrong with the rasbeanjelly/marmite combination. I suggest you make a NAND backup and try the compilation I posted to see for yourself.
I've been troubled by this issue of gradual performance degradation in android custom Rom/kernels ever since I came to android from a non-smart phone. I've asked about it before, but nobody really had a good answer for exactly why it was happening. It is likely related to something in custom kernels though, that's my gut feeling. The more reboots and freezes I'd get, the worse the system would run. Like you said, starting over from scratch always helps, but it really sucks having to do this regularly. My search for long term stability has brought me to cm 10.0 stable. I use the stock kernel, and don't mess around to much with advanced or performance settings. You won't get nearly the performance or battery life of other configs, but I've found the system runs just as smooth on day 60 as day 1. I actually have come back from a galaxy nexus to my ns4g cause of how useable the phone is, and how much I like the smaller size. So I disagree with the earlier poster who said to look for a new phone. I think you can definitely use this phone till the next android is version comes out, provided you don't use a lot of resource intensive apps.
Good luck in your search.
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Its not that money is an issue, but the problem is that if I do get a new contract I will be stuck in that for atleast 2 years with any new smartphone. The thing is that the nexus S is perfectly fine for my mobile needs. I just wish it could be a little snappier, as one of you have said already when getting a new phone its much better to get one that can be with you for 2 or more years - therefore it makes sense to get a good one. I will most likely wait for the new phone from samsung that uses the ARM big.LITTLE chip.
I just checked my phone and it seems I must have relock'd it when putting the stockrom on. I have not done this custom rom stuff in a while, not sure if the scene has changed much. Is the rooting process using adb recommended for mac's?
If you have many apps installed, it can be a quick performace boost if you uninstall all the apps you don't use or don't need. Keep the apps you use regularly, delete those you don't remember when was the last time you used them. I had some games and utilities which I froze in Titanium Backup (same as uninstalling except you don't lose any data and it can be reverted with one tap), since then my phone feels as new.
Androyed said:
I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.
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New build with latest rasbean source & latest marmite kernel 7.3CM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36674772
On the road with my Nexus S...
I think the rasbeanjellybuild MDO on 4.1.2 is faster. 4.2 was very laggy on my device. There are not so many functions in this rom. But that's my opinion. Kernel: marmite of course and the tweaks from brainmaster are for smoothness very well too.
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viperfx07 said:
I have noticed that my phone has become quite slow. My Nexus S is a contract phone and I think I have had it for almost 2 years. When i first got it - it felt snappy. Around that time, I did things like install kernals, custom roms, bootloader unlock etc. Then I went back to the stock rom.
I dont mind wiping the memory etc. As long as the important stuff is backed up like messages and contacts - everything else can go. I can reinstall when needed. So my question is - what do I have to do to regain the performance. Should I do a full reinstall? or install a custom ROM? or should I get a new phone (my contract ends this month)
Thanks
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I was in a similar position, except for the contract. I wiped everything, installed CM10 stable and uninstalled a couple dozen apps I was not using. Performance is ok again. Some battery issues, but I hope that with a new battery I can have the phone for some more time.
Hey,
I'm running Jellyshot with marmite 7.2.1 at 1.3GHz OC.
For me it's the perfect Rom / Kernel combo. The setup is pretty stable, incredibly fast and I got around 2-3 hours battery time, which is about as much as twice as stock.
I personally wait for the next Nexus device, because even today my nexus S with this setup can compare to 80 % of the smartphones in my vicinity.
Jellyshot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023699
Marmite Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719775
Androyed said:
I had been running the same custom ROM for months. When the Nexus 4 came along, I wanted to upgrade, but I decided to wait another year and just install a smooth and stable custom ROM/kernel.
I have found the combination of rasbeanjelly, the marmite kernel and brainmaster's seeder tweak to be extremely smooth. After flashing this combination, an upgrade to the Nexus 4 doesn't seem so needful anymore. Battery is okay too: I can get shy of 4 hours on screen time.
Klinkerkp was so nice to compile his own build of rasbeanjelly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36373552&postcount=278. It has the following:
Latest rasbeanjelly version
Gapps
SuperSU
BusyBox
Working photosphere
Dark mms with quick reply
marmite kernel v7.2.3CM
brainmaster's seeder tweak
You can download it here: http://www.d-h.st/HJ9. Very useful, because you only have to flash one file. Be sure to wipe and everything, but you know that already.
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i dont know if i really tried it all but i think i lost count on flashing roms ...and i always go back to this awesome combo,... i can safely say its the best i ever had too...:fingers-crossed:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will try them out. Since you guys have flashed so many, does it not get tiresome to wipe and reinstall everything? Is there an easier way?
What is your process for flashing a rom/kernal nowadays?
viperfx07 said:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will try them out. Since you guys have flashed so many, does it not get tiresome to wipe and reinstall everything? Is there an easier way?
What is your process for flashing a rom/kernal nowadays?
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I'm not really attached to my apps and data. The only thing I hate is asking everyone for their Wi-Fi passwords again. But I could easily back them up. I just don't because I'm lazy. If you want, you can back up pretty much anything with Titanium Backup.
My process? I first download everything I'm going to flash, throw it all in some folder on my sd card (most of the time I just keep it in the download folder). Then I don't make a NAND backup. That's right. #YOLO. No, just kidding. Like I said, not really attached to any setup at all. If I flash a new ROM, that means I don't care about my previous setup at all. But a NAND backup doesn't really take that long, and it's really easy to restore, so I would just do it if I were you.
I always restart after flashing. If I have to flash 5 things, I restart 5 times. Don't know if this helps, but someone taught me this once, and I've been doing it ever since. After I've flashed everything, I connect to Wi-Fi, download one or two apps I frequently use (whatsapp, my favourite browser), and then that's it. All other apps I download only when I need them.
i downgraded from 4.2.1 to apex 4.0.4
Now i have more then 170 mb ram free with most of my apps open!!!
with matr1x kernel cfs it seems to be great at gaming
I'm a little surprised to see so many NS users complaining about poor performance on 4.2.1. A lot of people seem to have become convinced that a single core cpu isn't enough to handle Android smoothly anymore, but I think they're just yearning for unachievable WP levels of UI sheen or they're flashing the wrong zips.
bed's Marmite kernel has been so well-optimized since its 7.1.6 incarnation that even a dirty-flashed ROM laden with 200+ apps feels usable. Having said that, it really does help to do things as cleanly as possible: full wipe, manual format of system and data, wipe cache and dalvik, reboot recovery; flash your ROM, flash gapps, and flash your chosen kernel once only (resist experimenting with different versions), then fix permissions.
For about the past week and a half I've been using tchaari's 4.2.1 build of Slimbean + Marmite 7.1.7, without an overclock, and it's remained consistently smooth and responsive well beyond 100 hours of uptime.
One thing which has in the past slowed my phone to a crawl is the SD card. There are some flaky versions of ClockworkMod which will leave corrupt blocks on the external storage after creating a NANDroid backup - Media Scanner hates this and so do the apps living on your SD. I've experienced this a couple of times and reformatting the SD is the only way to restore performance. Not sure if people are still suffering from this without realising the cause, but I now refrain from making NANDroids and just rely on Titanium Backup and everything seems to run smoothly.
Anyway, install Slimbean, flash Marmite 7.1.7 (or try out 7.3), and don't for one instant consider purchasing a fragile Nexus 4 or any other oversized power hungry droid.
my nexus s felt laggy since updated to ICS, then jellybean came along and made it even worse . At last I just put CM7 in and the phone is smooth as butter again
Odp: Regain performance
superweird said:
my nexus s felt laggy since updated to ICS, then jellybean came along and made it even worse . At last I just put CM7 in and the phone is smooth as butter again
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Is your internet browser as smooth as in jb too?
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Hey,
I got my N10 about 1 Month ago and it ran really fast and smooth in the beginning but when time went by it got slower and laggy. So i rooted it and installed CM11. There I had lag in the launcher, so i couldnt even scroll smoothly through the app drawer. I had the same problems with ThunderKat, AOKP ... The only time it runs without lag is, when i flash an original factory image. Then it runs smooth for like 2 days and it begins to become slow again.
It really pisses me of, that my N10 only runs fast when I have stock unrooted KitKat installed.. I thought its Hardware is more than capable of making the Device run smooth.
Has anyone an advice for me, how I can make it smooth again? Or which Custom Rom runs lag free for them, because I prefer Custom Roms over Googles Stock rom.
Sorry for my bad english and thanks for all answers.
Regards
I try not to make it my business to suggest which ROM is better for reason x or reason y so I won't, but I will say that you should not be having lag issues on most ROMs, even stock as this device can handle a lot.
That being said the issue more than likely lies in some bad apps you have installed, this or some mods that have been made that are working against you.
My n10 is actually my wife's so I don't mess with it much, but I will say there rarely is lag if ever on it. Currently I have her running the latest slimbean for the past few months and I'm sure eventually I'll put KitKat on there for her but she is more than happy with the performance as of right now.
So start by looking into apps that may be causing lag as with the limited info here I assume this is your issue
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I get lag using Nova Launcher these days, it seems to have happened with recent updates. I have tried lots of different ROMs and kernels it persists across them all. Even the new GE Launcher seems slow.
When using apps I don't notice any lag. It is just a launcher thing for me.
Same here but I also see some lag in scrolling in apps like xda and Facebook. But that's normal. It still works great for games and apps though my brother completely destroyed my battery. I can only get like 5 hours now and the standby used to drain 1-2 percent a day now drains that much in an hour. Sorry went a little off topic there in the ned
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Hi,
When my tablet started feeling really laggy I fully formatted it, installed stock KitKat, and then installed CM11 with the KK GAPPS, so far it's quite fast and performs really well. You may want to search for then"perfect ROM" for you, I can only tell you that I'm using CM11 and having a good time with it. Also using NOVA Launcher instead of stock, the launched that came with it indeed lagged a lot.
~Lord
"Time is too short to cry, long enough to try." - March of Time (Helloween)
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I would sugest you to wipe everything including the system partition then install a light and smooth rom such slim Kat and then some kernel. I use kt manta with a good tweak and finally activate trim
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I have had good luck with the Franco kernel and CM11. The device runs very smooth and battery life has been outstanding. Just installed the GEL and have no lag issues. It is no nexus 5 but it's acceptable.
Okay, thx for all the answers. I'll try it out!
Hi together!
I own my Nexus 10 since March 2013. Everything worked fine for me (i was always on the latest Stock Rom - did no reset etc.).
Well, by the time i noticed that the nexus has become a bit slow and laggy. Especially since I got a Nexus 5 which is just fast without any lag since christmas last year. Everything is also on stock there...
Last week I had enough and I did a factory reset. Well, compared to the Nexus 5 it still feels laggy. Every click takes a some time before something happens. It's not that bad that I couldn't use it, but it is a bit disturbing.
Main question 1: Guys, am i just confused because my Nexus 5 is that smooth, or is the Nexus 10 just simply old and too weak for KitKat.
I know, i could use some custom roms. But i am totaly ok with the Stock rom. I like it, as it is! So i don't urgently need a custom rom.
Main question 2: What possibilities do I have, to make the stock rom a little bit more smooth?
Thanks for your tips!
I've noticed that the performance seems to have slipped a bit since KitKat. Maybe its just me, but some of the 4.2.2 ROMs here were very smooth (though they are sadly discontinued now). There are still a handful of solid roms for kitkat. I haven't been on a stock ROM since the day I bought my Nexus 10 so I can't comment on stock.
You sound pretty firm about not flashing a custom ROM but I would urge you to reconsider for the boost in performance--not to mention added features. Aside from that you could try a custom kernel or various tweaks. There are some mods here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking that add a little boost through scripts like zipalign, better memory management, etc. That's about all you can do.
brGabriel said:
I've noticed that the performance seems to have slipped a bit since KitKat. Maybe its just me, but some of the 4.2.2 ROMs here were very smooth (though they are sadly discontinued now). There are still a handful of solid roms for kitkat. I haven't been on a stock ROM since the day I bought my Nexus 10 so I can't comment on stock.
You sound pretty firm about not flashing a custom ROM but I would urge you to reconsider for the boost in performance--not to mention added features. Aside from that you could try a custom kernel or various tweaks. There are some mods here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking that add a little boost through scripts like zipalign, better memory management, etc. That's about all you can do.
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I agree with ^^^^^^. Custom roms + overclock would be your best friend for an aging device. When you are used to the speed of a faster device like the nexus 5, the nexus 10 will just naturally feel slower (which it is). There is really not much you can do if you insist on staying stock. For me, I'm using mrrobinson's 4.3.1 buttered AOKP with Manta kernel, OC CPU to 1900mhz, set touchboost to cpu 1500mhz and gpu 533mhz. The device feels noticeably faster than stock, but of course it will never be as smooth/fast as your nexus 5.
Hi!
Thanks for your answers and for the confirmation of my perception.
I just don't have the time for testing so many roms, but maybe i will try one or two...
I also thought maybe I could change the CPU Govenor of Stock or Overclock it...
Well, however - it's a two year old device - that's tech live!
guitargod said:
Hi!
Thanks for your answers and for the confirmation of my perception.
I just don't have the time for testing so many roms, but maybe i will try one or two...
I also thought maybe I could change the CPU Govenor of Stock or Overclock it...
Well, however - it's a two year old device - that's tech live!
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I run 4.4.4 on my N10 with no appreciable amount of lag.
I run Slim Rom.
I don't overclock, mod kernels, etc.
This tablet doesn't need any of that.
I do run Greenify, Ad Away, and Autostarts. This keeps my tablet as snappy as the day I loaded the ROM.
Run any ROM for a while and it starts to lag. Root allows you to correct the issue.
I find it really lags when apps are updating, or when restoring apps. I never considered my Note 2 fast but it handles all of these tasks with barely a whimper. Guess # of cores is important.
Its time for a new tablet soon, but not really sure what I'm going to go with. I want to get away from Samsung's physical/capacitive buttons, but also want high res and speed.
Holy crap mine started lagging out of the blue about a week ago. I'm going to take this as a sign that a new nexus 10 is coming and google wants us to upgrade!
My Nexus 5 has really spoiled me as far as smoothness. I'm on slimkat on my Nexus 10 but I'll be trying a 4.2.2 rom to see if there is a difference as some threads around here say.
As far as KitKat Roms go, I find Liquidsmooth to be very snappy (however the YouTube app crashes are a deal breaker for making it my daily driver )
Probably the smoothest ROM I've ever run was Sabermod 4.2.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292927
Also the early Eos 4.2.2 ROMs were really good too. They also had tablet mode or left-aligned navigation buttons.
There are plenty other good ones but that's just my two cents.
My advice would be to run the 'performance' CPU scheduler, which locks the CPU at 1.7ghz. Makes quite a big difference, and the impact on battery life is minor. :good:
I've installed AOKP 4.3.3 and so far it's way smoother than KK. In going to try Eos 4.2.2 and see how it does.
The nexus 10 is not too weak for kitkat
I find that Nexus 10 on KitKat with a custom rom and kernel runs very smooth and fluid (at least as fluid as nexus 4 which is very good).
Personally I run official Omnirom 4.4.4 with franco kernel r16. I have also flashed bionic and dalvik optimized libraries which are actually intended for qualcomm devices - but by some magic work well on my nexus 10 and improve performance in benchmarks by as much as 20%! And browser and interface feels much smoother after flashing these library patches.
You can download them in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/mod-dalvik-bionic-library-optimization-t2537299
I flashed the Z2 bionic and the Moto X 4.4.2 dalvik files. (They work on 4.4.4). Flash patches before flashing custom kernel. (download 4.4.4 KTU84P stock library also and flash in case you get a bootloop after flashing the optimized libraries)
Hi All,
Yep, a nubie here. Recently, I have obtained a first generation nexus 2012 tablet, after my polaroid dying, and not liking samsung. to start with, I was worried of getting it, as the hardware, after all, is 5 years old, and was worried of it lagging, sort of like the iphone 4s did on IOS9. unfortunately, I was right. as a talkback user, the tablet is almost beyond useless. it's up to the point, where if I turn it off, and turn it back on, I can't use it for a good 5 minutes, the lag just takes control, and there's nothing I can do. So I started looking around, and came across over clocking. I've found 2 curnals that claim to do this on the nexus, but one is for JellyBean, and the other is for marsh mallow, and in the case of the latter, it's for the 2013 model. so my question is simply this. what curnal can I safely install on this tablet, without recking it, that will allow me to over clock? a quick search on here didn't get me far, so thought I'd post.
PS. clearing the cash partition fixes the lag for about 2 days, that is really not an option.
What you should do is install a lollipop custom ROM. I recommend paranoid Android lollipop. Also install team win recovery project. These reduce lag. Overclocking is not advised as it can already get Pretty hot under load.
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Hi,
first, thanks for the reply, and this leaves me 2 questions.
1] how is the accessibility of custom RAMS?
2] if I install a custom RAM, [which I thought about, anyway] any particular reason why I shouldn't go higher, to say, android 6 or 7? thanks much.
You could go higher but performance will vary but there are custom ROMs that do let the device go higher I just can't guarantee speed ad reliability.
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