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I think the pixel devices are a haven for android development. like a tree has a trunk and then branches , lol the pixels are like the trunk and other manufactures other than google are branches. not exactly but in someways, yes
THIS THREAD IS FOR CENTRALIZING DISSCUSSION
What android features are developers working on? What features do enthusiasts what to see?
Ideas, requests, reminders. Hopefully you'll be heard here
I would like phone theme-ing to be more compartmentalized.

Still wanna see a bootloader unlock for Verizon variant.

alladinscastle said:
I think the pixel devices are a haven for android development. like a tree has a truck and then branches , lol the pixels are like the truck and other manufactures other than google are branches. not exactly but in someways, yes
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that's not really true. AOSP may be the trunk, but the pixel line is just a branch or two - Google just showcases their stuff on pixel devices first...
alladinscastle said:
THIS THREAD IS FOR CENTRALIZING DISSCUSSION
What android features are developers working on? What features do enthusiasts what to see?
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doesn't it make more sense to encourage users to visit the dedicated thread of a given piece of software that developers already have created VS. trying to have a centralized thread?. ... I mean the pixel forum IS centralized and leads to all of the development, software and support threads already...I'm confused, i don't understand the point....?
alladinscastle said:
I would like phone theme-ing to be more compartmentalized.
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how so?. ... I mean, as is theming is very compartmentalized, at least in terms of it being granular, on a per-app or overlay basis... therevarevstill a few annoyances with Theming, but it's not too bad...

Part1, first come first serve.
Part2 if we where to use this thread, there would be a better spread of knowledge and less harrassing OPs with cluttered responses, expectations, the usual
Part3 I would like to customize my device without using substratum theme. A more of a layer by layer or mix and match custom options that would be possible with coding approach. Bold- maybe, impossible- nothing. Using one's own choices or prereadied themes

https://www.xda-developers.com/otgs...stratum-themes-directly-on-a-phone-or-tablet/
Linking article for OTGSubs. Looks cool

abranson said:
Still wanna see a bootloader unlock for Verizon variant.
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I'm Verizon, I got in early when the getting was hood

I thought of a few things like replacing stock boot image with modified signed one, but had an androidinfo.txt error, and if we can't get temp root to bypass, for now, maybe I can find a way to change my imei?

alladinscastle said:
Part1, first come first serve.
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it doesn't change the fact that all of the OEMS/vendors are building roms using AOSP, not the pixel line... so not really first come first serve.
alladinscastle said:
Part2 if we where to use this thread, there would be a better spread of knowledge and less harrassing OPs with cluttered responses, expectations, the usual
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you are talking about lumping the entire forum into one thread. meanwhile the forum is nicely divided into categories /sections and is easy to navigate.... furthermore, as a developer; I would prefer any discourse regarding any development that I do, happen in the thread that I created, rather than some mega thread with 100 different topics all overlapping with replies. that's super ineffective, would mean I would have an additional, very disorganized thread to follow and email notifications would be useless..... I can appreciate your intentions, but I can monitor my thread, no need for a third party to intervene.
I do think this is a great idea, for people to point out new articles, features or stuff elsewhere as a newsfeed or something and general discussion... but I think developers can manage their threads better than letting another party do it for them... or putting them in a position where they will have to monitor an additional thread...
alladinscastle said:
Part3 I would like to customize my device without using substratum theme. A more of a layer by layer custom options that would be possible with coding approach. Bold- maybe, impossible- nothing
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substratum is a layer by layer approach. you can mix and match all that you like, changrle the priority / ordering of layers, etc, etc...
coding approach how? explain in detail, without being vague. do you have any code i can look at? .... I'm not sure that i see how you would accomplish any theming engine without direct ROM support, like the old cm theme engine or OMS/RRO support in AOSP.

Good to know on the AOSP. Maybe their ports will land on pixel soon?
It is unreasonable to see developers updating there's thread here. Very unreasonable. I thought I might see developers like yourself, thanks for the kernel, post here like say... I might start a new project, is their community support for this? That sort of thing. And the community post here with ideas, requests. That sort of thing. Could lead to more participation, and less threads being created that are simply comments that belong here.
The OTGSubs I found sounds like exactly what I was meaning. Just something to get more freedom from prereadied themes. The build your own theme engine. Holla, I do love ya'lls themes usually. I'm gonna go play with OTGSubs.

alladinscastle said:
Good to know on the AOSP. Maybe their ports will land on pixel soon?
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youbare already running lots of code on your pixel that was committed upstream by Google's partners.
alladinscastle said:
It is unreasonable to see developers updating there's thread here. Very unreasonable. I thought I might see developers like yourself, thanks for the kernel, post here like say... I might start a new project, is their community support for this? That sort of thing. And the community post here with ideas, requests. That sort of thing. Could lead to more participation, and less threads being created that are simply comments that belong here.
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I getcha. on a new project, I might do that, but for myself anyway; if I release a peice of software, then I'm still going to startba dedicated thread... so like a newsfeed; I could mention / link to it from here but that's about it.
but I can see what ur driving at now.
alladinscastle said:
The OTGSubs I found sounds like exactly what I was meaning. Just something to get more freedom from prereadied themes. The build your own theme engine. Holla, I do love ya'lls themes usually. I'm gonna go play with OTGSubs.
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otgsubs is for substratum though. you said you didn't want substratum...I'm confused. lol.... iirc, there are several apps like this for modding or creating themes that make use of substratum / OMS.... nice to see more of that around though.

I'd love to see an exploit for vzw Pixel to root/unlock my bootloader.

ztotherad said:
I'd love to see an exploit for vzw Pixel to root/unlock my bootloader.
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Wouldn't we all
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The January security update is now allowing deodex. I myself cannot bring myself to update yet. The work done on my phone now cannot be undone. Some where else in the forum it was said that themes (Subs) should be reset before flashing .

What else is locked or waiting to be found within pixel? Today I was hoping WiFi calling would be simple. I failed. Does someone know more about this topic or WiFi calling's ties to HD video calling? Also a screenshot. Yeah

I need too amend my prior post to say "HD voice"

alladinscastle said:
What else is locked or waiting to be found within pixel? Today I was hoping WiFi calling would be simple. I failed. Does someone know more about this topic or WiFi calling's ties to HD video calling? Also a screenshot. Yeah
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I haven't taken/received the Jan update yet, but then again I'm not going to sideload it on my phone. I'm still hoping for an unlock like the pixel 2/XL2, but my hope is dwindling.

Here is something I found via Google about a bootloader exploit https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjARegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2mjG3yppFcxSunZI9TGsvi

snipinu said:
Here is something I found via Google about a bootloader exploit https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjARegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2mjG3yppFcxSunZI9TGsvi
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honestly that looks old. it's talking about the oneplus 3/3T
edit: looking at it it may be feasible, but if it was then why has no one else taken it upon themselves to try to exploit? i would but i don't know the first thing about this stuff (exploiting exploits)

Talks about the pixel too some form of exploit. I just did a random search and found that PDF.

snipinu said:
Talks about the pixel too some form of exploit. I just did a random search and found that PDF.
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yeah quick reading that's what i saw. I'd personally love to try to exploit the meltdown/spectre exploits, but idk if it's feasible.

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[Q] Subforums for Sense/Stock builds in the Dev section ?

As it appears people clearly like or dont like HTC Sense, would it be possibly to add these options to the dev forums, its getting really confusing trying to follow/ find anything with the page's updating every second and the random names dev's use to tag there builds
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As it appears people clearly like or dont like HTC Sense, would it be possibly to add these options to the dev forums, its getting really confusing trying to follow/ find anything with the page's updating every second and the random names dev's use to tag there builds
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Sorry for my ignorance but do you need someone to hold your hand while crossing the street too?
inny2 said:
Sorry for my ignorance but do you need someone to hold your hand while crossing the street too?
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Nope but obviously someone needs help on learning on how to throw together a witty non valid comment... it's a simple suggestion on cleaning up the forums to make them more user friendly, now, back under your rock troll...
I was going to suggest something similar too.Another thought was to not have so much discriptions on the headings,maybe just the basics of what is there.Then more detailed info when the thread is opened,maybe.I find it pretty confusing the differentiate between some of the builds.
I'm almost changing on a two daily basis my android roms and am very grateful for all the hard work being put into this so keep up the good work and thanks
I have to say its rather easy for me to figure out what type of build it is.
maybe its just me. Usually there is something in the header that tips me off.
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Nope but obviously someone needs help on learning on how to throw together a witty non valid comment... it's a simple suggestion on cleaning up the forums to make them more user friendly, now, back under your rock troll...
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hazard99 said:
I have to say its rather easy for me to figure out what type of build it is.
maybe its just me. Usually there is something in the header that tips me off.
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I hope you see the difference between me (troll) and you. Check the titles, waste some more time to install all the builds and you will find which developer and what build is what with what.
Thank you!
Your correct, Titles tell us everything
[BUILD]Mdeejay FroYo HD v.3.3 beta|1.24.405.1|kernel: hastarin r 7.1
must therefore be a Stock build.... oh wait, its Sense.
I could list various titles for hours with the amount of releases there is on a weekly basis, see what im getting at here ?
The suggestion I made has nothing to do with testing builds, what developer to use, or any other of the random questions about builds that are flooding the forums, its about a creating a simple sub forum so the two variations of releases can be easily distinguished and found by the user looking for it, and probably give a little leeway to the dev's from the constant requests they get to do a alternative build with/without sense, simple organisation allowing less clutter and less load on the xda servers search function.
No need subforums for Sense/Stock, Stock build is dying, in a few days you won't able to find any stock build in the first few pages, there are will be Sense and EVIL Sense...
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Your correct, Titles tell us everything
[BUILD]Mdeejay FroYo HD v.3.3 beta|1.24.405.1|kernel: hastarin r 7.1
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Isn't HD in the title as Rom from Desire HD?
Plus most developers if not all put some screen shots at the end of their first post.
And we are talking for how many android roms in total? 10? Thats nothing compared to WM roms and GTX themed or Max-Sense. Needless to say the mess with the builds for 6.5 and 6.5.x builds. As soon as people get acquainted with what they have its fine.

[spam] Rom Spamming

I'm getting tired of all the knock off roms that are all the same.
There are a few "real" devs that make good roms. But then a lot of people cooking roms, and just changing some pictures and stuff with no additional functions, or borrowing them from someone else's rom.
Roms with added apps or themes should go in the theme section, cause its not a new rom.
Post and vote if your tired of getting rom spammed.
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I'm not looking to fight but here's a real simple question...are you a dev? Are you contributing anything to the betterment of the community? If your answer is no then you like myself probably shouldn't throw stones. If you're unhappy don't use any of the available "spam" as you call it. Stick with your Sense and call it a day.
Just my 2 cents.
I would have to say yes. There are tons of knockoffs.
I had a whitey comment about a developer and rom that was a knockoff of Cyanogenmod's rom but I think it is better left unsaid.
PS: I don't think this belongs in this section but then again it does. So idk I wanna see the results of this poll.
Agreed, alot of these roms are just the same with diffrent apps and themes....they should be moved to themes and apps and stay out of development
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sounds like your mad that CM7 isnt out
im furious also
but comon unless you develop a rom then how about you just logout and delete the favorite from your browser.
cya
DanWalker said:
I'm not looking to fight but here's a real simple question...are you a dev? Are you contributing anything to the betterment of the community? If your answer is no then you like myself probably shouldn't throw stones. If you're unhappy don't use any of the available "spam" as you call it. Stick with your Sense and call it a day.
Just my 2 cents.
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personal attack removed. I guess you don't understand "community". Just because you don't dev a rom doesn't mean you don't take part in where the development goes. The OP is correct. There are alot of confused people who create roms that are themes. I have no issues having these roms if they simply stated they are themed roms. These types of roms should be moved in to the theme/apps. The development section should be Roms the deliver something different then the theme. Startup scripts. Modifications to the framework etc. We have a great community. I personally agree with the OP.
I guess why this is here.
There is a sticky about The General Public License. Yet we have plenty of devs that don't actually release what they are changing in their roms. This is as if they own these rights when they don't. To further development Developers should be releasing changes they made to the framework. What was changed, how it was changes, and how this change effects the phone. I don't see it. I see things like "Changes to the framework", "Other changes that I am missing" < How does this benefit anyone? This is an open source community. Maybe we should be more "open"
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you sir are an idiot. I guess you don't understand "community". Just because you don't dev a rom doesn't mean you don't take part in where the development goes. The OP is correct. There are alot of confused people who create roms that are themes. I have no issues having these roms if they simply stated they are themed roms. These types of roms should be moved in to the theme/apps. The development section should be Roms the deliver something different then the theme. Startup scripts. Modifications to the framework etc. We have a great community. I personally agree with the OP.
I guess why this is here.
There is a sticky about The General Public License. Yet we have plenty of devs that don't actually release what they are changing in their roms. This is as if they own these rights when they don't. To further development Developers should be releasing changes they made to the framework. What was changed, how it was changes, and how this change effects the phone. I don't see it. I see things like "Changes to the framework", "Other changes that I am missing" < How does this benefit anyone? This is an open source community. Maybe we should be more "open"
IMO
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I can't agree more with lithid. There are two others out there that seem to be taking lithids and making their own thred. Most are themes and shouldn't be in here. I like to test for preludedrew and lithid based roms but I hear the same complaining. Gps, whens 4g working, hdmi.
Just because you take another devs Rom and update it nightly doesn't make it your own. I personally gone from not understanding Android to recooking roms but why should I post it then ask for donations. Donations should be to those truly developing the roms like CM, Lithid, Prelude and so on.
I certainly don't want to start a war on this but its sickening to bounce from thred to thred and see the same stuff just different title.
Said my peace.. thanks to myn, lithid, CM, and prelude. Of course to all those that help them too.
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Stalte said:
I would have to say yes. There are tons of knockoffs.
I had a whitey comment about a developer and rom that was a knockoff of Cyanogenmod's rom but I think it is better left unsaid.
PS: I don't think this belongs in this section but then again it does. So idk I wanna see the results of this poll.
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Yeah, I know, my cyanogenmod knockoff sucks doesn't it...
Just kidding
Well a lot of phones dont have roms or good roms, so even if some roms copy at least we have people giving to the Evo community.
The more roms the better is my thought.
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you sir are an idiot. I guess you don't understand "community". Just because you don't dev a rom doesn't mean you don't take part in where the development goes. The OP is correct. There are alot of confused people who create roms that are themes. I have no issues having these roms if they simply stated they are themed roms. These types of roms should be moved in to the theme/apps. The development section should be Roms the deliver something different then the theme. Startup scripts. Modifications to the framework etc. We have a great community. I personally agree with the OP.
I guess why this is here.
There is a sticky about The General Public License. Yet we have plenty of devs that don't actually release what they are changing in their roms. This is as if they own these rights when they don't. To further development Developers should be releasing changes they made to the framework. What was changed, how it was changes, and how this change effects the phone. I don't see it. I see things like "Changes to the framework", "Other changes that I am missing" < How does this benefit anyone? This is an open source community. Maybe we should be more "open"
IMO
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100% spot on correct!!!!!
While anyone can make a contribution to not all of them are beneficial to the community.
brizzle1986 said:
Agreed, alot of these roms are just the same with diffrent apps and themes....they should be moved to themes and apps and stay out of development
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LMAO @ moved to themes and apps
bwhahahaha
goodboynyc said:
While anyone can make a contribution to not all of them are beneficial to the community.
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This thread is essentially pointless. Opinions are like aholes, everyone has one. This thread belongs in the q&a section, not development. Ironic the very thing complained about is the same thing occurring here. People are sharing their creations, like them or not. If not, don't download them. No good is going to come from saying people are all being copycats. I'm sure you feel my ROM is another useless creation as well, a 'knock off'. That's OK with me if you feel that way, plenty of other people like it. If you don't like it, don't download it.
Android is all about open source, this is why I have made threads like THIS ONE and THIS ONE so that others can see exactly what I have done and how to do it themselves.
Have a nice day
Ive taking the best features,tweaks etc from 4-5 different roms and made my own sweet rom but I wouldnt dare post it cause it's not my work, but that being said if proper credit is giving to the Devs is this really a issue??
Better to have too many than not enough. Even if they just change a couple of things then, imo, that could spark further creativity or development.
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You should ask the devs too. I think if a dev copies the whole rom and just basically theme it they shouldn't ask for money. But if they actually add features why not.
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I don't think they're knockoffs. Even the "knockoffs" take a great load of time and effort to make them. The Devs aren't always looking to please everyone and often make ROMS because a small group has asked them to. Competition is NEVER bad
More roms to chose from is better. Not all developers want to add certain tweaks consumers demand. For example the power bar tweak and etc... this post is useless and doesn't belong here.
OP if you don't like the variety of roms then don't read about them or even become curious of them. Don't waste pointless space in this forum. Thanks.
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there are just sooooo many "custom" roms out there right now and its hard to find things sometimes.
Can we get another section under development for kernels, aosp and sense
that would make it look alot prettier
SteelH said:
This thread is essentially pointless. Opinions are like aholes, everyone has one. This thread belongs in the q&a section, not development. Ironic the very thing complained about is the same thing occurring here. People are sharing their creations, like them or not. If not, don't download them. No good is going to come from saying people are all being copycats. I'm sure you feel my ROM is another useless creation as well, a 'knock off'. That's OK with me if you feel that way, plenty of other people like it. If you don't like it, don't download it.
Android is all about open source, this is why I have made threads like THIS ONE and THIS ONE so that others can see exactly what I have done and how to do it themselves.
Have a nice day
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X2 on all of that!
If you don't like it, don't download it....I like the freedom to choose. My friend has the incredible and gets mad that he doesn't have as much to choose from as I do.

Is there any comparison matrix available comparing features of different ROM's?

Is there any thread around comparing different ROM's available feature wise? Kind of a matrix? With so many ROM featuring several common features and many unique ones it will be helpful if you are trying to find a ROM with similar feature if you are having trouble with what you are on.
webharsh said:
Is there any thread around comparing different ROM's available feature wise? Kind of a matrix? With so many ROM featuring several common features and many unique ones it will be helpful if you are trying to find a ROM with similar feature if you are having trouble with what you are on.
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Don't think there are any at the moment..Maybe you should start a thread like that in the General section.
Good idea, but it could be huge and very time consuming keeping it up to date.
I saw something like this, I think in the Nexus 7 forums. It was just an Google Drive spreadsheet
My exams are just over, I might have the time to do that.
Any list of a few ROMs I should definitely try out?
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My exams are just over, I might have the time to do that.
Any list of a few ROMs I should definitely try out?
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Try them all for a good comparison
There is something like.. 60-70 ROMs o_o
And I'd most likely make it into a Google spreadsheet, based on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006616
Btw, would you guys want a detailed comparison, like for example
Nav Bar Height | Nav Bar Colour | Nav Bar Transparency
--------Yes-------------------No---------------------Yes---------------
or Customizable Navbar
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jiayit said:
There is something like.. 60-70 ROMs o_o
And I'd most likely make it into a Google spreadsheet, based on this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006616
Btw, would you guys want a detailed comparison, like for example
Nav Bar Height | Nav Bar Colour | Nav Bar Transparency
--------Yes-------------------No---------------------Yes---------------
or Customizable Navbar
------------- Yes
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May be it can be started with ROM's from Original Android Development Forums with basic feature comparison like default Kernel, Navbar Customization (Yes, No, CM, AOKP), Pie (CM or PA), PA Colours, Center clock etc., per App DPI, ribbon etc.
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May be it can be started with ROM's from Original Android Development Forums with basic feature comparison like default Kernel, Navbar Customization (Yes, No, CM, AOKP), Pie (CM or PA), PA Colours, Center clock etc., per App DPI, ribbon etc.
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Yup, I've made a rough draft but I don't have much support from the members, might just consider abandoning the project.. BRB while I find my thread.
Edit: here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283179
Only 1 person actually participated in the thread, is that saddening or saddening
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Yup, I've made a rough draft but I don't have much support from the members, might just consider abandoning the project.. BRB while I find my thread.
Edit: here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283179
Only 1 person actually participated in the thread, is that saddening or saddening
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That looks great. Maybe we can start with a simpler (smaller?) format and smaller set of feature and make the spreadsheet shared so everyone can update it with their experience. Also instead of 60 something ROM, ROM's in original android development could be starting point.
webharsh said:
That looks great. Maybe we can start with a simpler (smaller?) format and smaller set of feature and make the spreadsheet shared so everyone can update it with their experience. Also instead of 60 something ROM, ROM's in original android development could be starting point.
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Sorry, it's my first time messing with Google Docs, is there any way to moderate edits before they are saved? I think if I open the doc, some jokers will definitely delete the entire doc or something.
Thanks for the suggestions ^_^
Its a good project for someone.
-Sent from Marino's Nexus 4-
jiayit said:
Sorry, it's my first time messing with Google Docs, is there any way to moderate edits before they are saved? I think if I open the doc, some jokers will definitely delete the entire doc or something.
Thanks for the suggestions ^_^
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Well I see a shared google doc for Nexus colors or something, we can make something similar. I'll try to dig something today to figure out what we can do.
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Well I see a shared google doc for Nexus colors or something, we can make something similar. I'll try to dig something today to figure out what we can do.
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The thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039607
And in post #6, OP mentioned that he has to make frequent backups. I'll have the weekend to flash as many ROMs as I can then!

Why does the ROM get it's own forum unlike others?

This question has been asked here (http://www.xda-developers.com/android/from-the-bbq-omnirom/) but seems didn't get a reply from mods.
what makes it so special compared to other ROMs like AOKP/PA which are just threads in the device forums. Pulser_g2 has mentioned transparency in another post in the past but this forum section seems to go above forum rules. thanks
You know i've been wondering that myself...not that i care really. I'm more excited about wanting to port it lol ...will still be nice to know
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As far as I know it doesn't. The main Omni sub forum is only here for better communication between the devs and its community otherwise as far as I know the ROMs itself will be in their own respected device forums.
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then why not just create the relevant threads on the supported devices?
I never saw a dev/maintainer having problems communicating with its users on the device threads.
honestly does it really matter? this is how it should be for cynogen/aokp/paranoid as well since they are the most popular. will make communication and guides a whole lot easier.
perhaps this is xda way of going down that isle
It has a cooler wizard crew and a better wizard beats mix tape
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My guess (purely a guess) is because there is meant to be more community discussion around new features. CM seems to just be lead devs in private discussions about upcoming stuff, the rest of us know about it when the commits start to roll.
This sort of "upcoming feature" talk is more appropriate in a central forum, rather than spread across x amount of individual device threads that noone will ever read. The "Feature Development" sub also sort of confirms this a bit.
M.
mrjayviper said:
then why not just create the relevant threads on the supported devices?
I never saw a dev/maintainer having problems communicating with its users on the device threads.
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The plan is for these forums to be for coordination between developers on device-independent stuff. I also hope to have, eventually, a "neutral ground" where the leads of various projects can communicate. There are always going to be things (usually differences in UI/UX direction) that drive the existence of multiple projects - but there are a lot of areas where the work done is common and I think that the various projects can do better communicating.
I would not have any problem with other firmware projects having coordination forums for "core" work here on XDA.
As I've said in other posts - this is the very earliest stages of things, and there are still a lot of details to work out. There's a possibility that the current "omni" forums could change drastically in structure as things get fleshed out better.
Thanks Entropy. clear and concise. couldn't ask for more. all power to the new team/ROM. Competition is ALWAYS good.
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Thanks Entropy. clear and concise. couldn't ask for more. all power to the new team/ROM. Competition is ALWAYS good.
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It is an experiment - while we can sit around at XDA Towers and come up with wonderful ideas of how to improve things for developers, it's important to see how they work.
In this case we can see how the concept of having a centralised area for non device specific discussions works. It's easier to try it out on something that can be undone if needed, which is starting off slowly.
If that works out, I don't think it takes a genius to imagine the direction that we would look towards in the future.
It's worth noting that Rootzwiki sort of has a similar structure for AOKP and a few others under the "Team Forums" section. Definitely seems like a good structure to experiment with. I know a lot of ROMs tried running their own forums but the problem is that everyone is here and no one wants to make a bunch of new accounts, so this makes more sense in the long run.
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It has a cooler wizard crew and a better wizard beats mix tape
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I think what you mean to say its the bonnie wizzer and the king grux grew crew!
I can't believe you actually said mix tape. I have a pair of Converse that say mix tape.
From the VERY little I've seen about this rom it's reminding me of SalvageMod, which I really really liked.
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I think what you mean to say its the bonnie wizzer and the king grux grew crew!
I can't believe you actually said mix tape. I have a pair of Converse that say mix tape.
From the VERY little I've seen about this rom it's reminding me of SalvageMod, which I really really liked.
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It was a workaholics reference, obviously you didn't get it.
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Don't want to date myself, but we had a similar forum back in the Motorola heyday.
Back than seem editing and various other methods of modding
various Motorola phones, starting with the Motorola v3 were discussed.
It worked very well than and should now. Motorola released different phones,
but they all basically had the same but updated firmware.
I am the Administrator of one of the forums that still survives, but not much activity these days.
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[Great News] [Official] [CM12.1][Coming Soon]

Hello Everyone
I have come across device tree for Hima M9/CyanogenMod 12.1 with a custom Kernel. (If I'll tell you the name of either , you'd Google in a second)
The developer is a genius and trust me you'd see both of these within a month. Stay tuned for updates.
I can attach screenshots but I'd not post links as previous experiences that I had meant that people started troubling the developer and he quit the project all together. Respect the developers and read in my signature about development process and what it is actually like to be one.
This is just a confirmation and I can actually prove it to everyone who are interested.
I see many device tree updates every day so I am sure once CM12.1 is available officially, it'd open gates for all sorts of custom ROMs!
Attachments coming in few hours as I'm heading out
wow that would be awesome! cant wait to run a pure android rom on this beast
*all f***** fingers crossed*
Yay!
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Hello Everyone
I have come across device tree for Hima M9/CyanogenMod 12.1 with a custom Kernel. (If I'll tell you the name of either , you'd Google in a second)
The developer is a genius and trust me you'd see both of these within a month. Stay tuned for updates.
I can attach screenshots but I'd not post links as previous experiences that I had meant that people started troubling the developer and he quit the project all together. Respect the developers and read in my signature about development process and what it is actually like to be one.
This is just a confirmation and I can actually prove it to everyone who are interested.
I see many device tree updates every day so I am sure once CM12.1 is available officially, it'd open gates for all sorts of custom ROMs!
Attachments coming in few hours as I'm heading out
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The link below is to the thread which its being discussed in within m9 Q&A section. Rashid97 is the dev working on the project
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/help/cyanogenmod-12-12-1-htc-one-m9-t3069920
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The link below is to the thread which its being discussed in within m9 Q&A section. Rashid97 is the dev working on the project
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/help/cyanogenmod-12-12-1-htc-one-m9-t3069920
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aaronrw said:
Yay!
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sweetrobot said:
about ****ing time!!! so sick of the nonSense...
cm / aosp / aokp ftw.
paperweight for the last couple of months. tried a bunch of the existing roms, just not my cup of tea.
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k1moe said:
wow that would be awesome! cant wait to run a pure android rom on this beast
*all f***** fingers crossed*
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I am afraid that is not it what you are pointing out.
Here are the screenshots.
You can clearly see that how much commits are posted daily and it is going on at a very brisk rate. Cheer up everyone!
Request :
Just please do not trouble the developer if you find out who is he.
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DEVELOPMENT PROCESS
INTRODUCTION
I am starting this forum in hope of educating my readers about ROM development according to my experiences. Further, I will highlight what is the usual developers' thought process before they decide to build a ROM for a specific device. The reasons why they usually choose a certain device or why they prefer one device over another would also be stated briefly. I also have intention of looking into ways how we can speed up ROM productions for any device and what you can do to play your part.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION FOR NO CUSTOM ROMS EVEN AFTER SOME MONTHS BUT THIS DOESNOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO SPAM
I am sure many of you must be really disappointed by the lack of development for your device and I know this must be frustrating when we see other devices are getting ROMS so quickly. I know many are too excited when they find a little about any OTA/ Custom ROM and sharing such news is fully justified. However, it's beyond my logic & thinking why the forums are SPAMMED for any little information they might find anywhere regardless of their sources or if it has been ALREADY POSTED. I reckon many of these threads could have been avoided by simply searching in the forum.
ROM DEVELOPMENT
I can assure you that many develoeprs are working very hard to PORT and develop different ROMS for a device. However, the reason we can not see any CUSTOM roms till yet is due to complicated nature of a device itself.
Usually developers prefer a device which is :
1. Easy to work with, less complicated to code with or in other terms DEVELOPER friendly. For example, for a while I had a real issue with HTC phones as they have too many things to work with like Bootloader, S Lock, Radios, Hboot version etc while in Nexus devices you only need to unlock your device with one fastboot command. That's all and you are ready to flash ROMs.
2. Personal preference of Device. This simply means that we all have different tastes and thus we choose different devices. A certain developer might only work for a certain brand while other might work with few brands. This has nothing to do with anything but a personal choice.
3. A device that promises reward in terms of money/self satisfaction. Developers usually go for devices which have most active users so if their intention is also to get some money out of it in terms of donation, this will work well with devices which are more in number.
4. Knowledge about a certain brand more than another.
5. MONEY TO BUY A CERTAIN DEVICE/DEVICES. Suppose a developer wants to make ROMS for Xperia L/ SP/Z and Xperia U. Yet he only has 500 dollars to choose from. He then will have to make a choice between devices and this will eventually mean that not all of the devices get the same treatment. Money is the most decisive factor why a developer doesnot chose your device but rather another. For example purpose only, if I have to choose between devices, I might prefer SP over Xperia L as I can see more future of SP than Xperia L(I might be wrong).
6. Simply he bought a device or it is gifted/donated to him
SOME REQUESTS
Please STOP bugging developers by trivial questions. Just think how many other people ask the same question and it gets very frustrating to actually work on the device itself.
Every developer has a LIFE apart from developing ROMs. They also have a family, school, work, hobbies, bad days and so much like us. So they will do it when they feel like doing it. Just sit back and relax. Enjoy your device until developer releases the ROM for your device. Asking a REASONABLE question seems plausible but asking same questions/useless questions without using brains is just STUPID. Kindly refrain from that.
If you have seen a developer who has taken the initiative to work on your device , the best thing to do is to be patient. Let him concentrate. Spamming and spamming again won't help really.Yet some users start SPAMMING developers, their twitters, blogs and accounts. That's really sad. You can discuss on the forum what you think about it but IRKING developers isnot really cool.
WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP DEVELOPERS AND SEE CUSTOM ROMS.
1. Search the form first and look for answers. DON'T start new posts/questions/threads when it is ALREADY mentioned in some other section.
2. STOP PMing/SPAMING developers but rather ask a question WHICH havenot been asked before in the forum. Do not engage in the habit of making a new forum for everything. Try to keep threads as little as possible.
3. Follow developers and see what they have updated about on their official twitter,facebook,etc rather than bugging them on different forums/social websites.
4 DONATE THEM. DONATE THEM . DONATE THEM!
The amount of efforts they put, sitting for hours in front of their PCs and I know how frustrating it gets when you try to run commands and everything seems to work yet you can not boot up your ROM. And worse, you can not find WHY really. Just a change in line in build.prop results in failure of ROM to boot up and specially working from source to build ROM is really really tough. The best thing you can do is being supportive and patient !
A ROM development requires not just EXCESSIVE amount of hardwork, time, energy and dedication but also they need MONEY to actually buy devices and try it on. They are happy and encouraged to keep on developing ROMs when they see their efforts are not wasted and they are rewarded and respected for what they do.
SOME BASICS OF ROM DEVELOPMENT
Usually this is required to make a full custom ROM
Blobs which contain hardware information which comes from hardware manufacturer like Qualcomm in case of Snapdragon processors
A fully functional device tree
Latest Android source (Or the android version source you want to build for)
Specific Custom ROM coding which is based on Android Source
Usually a device tree and kernel tree is needed before custom roms can be made available. This is a long trial and error process in which every component of hardware is made functional as usually manufacturers do not provide any code for their devices and thus new code is to be written which is very frustrating and long process!
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Hnk1 said:
I am afraid that is not it what you are pointing out.
Here are the screenshots.
You can clearly see that how much commits are posted daily and it is going on at a very brisk rate. Cheer up everyone!
Request :
Just please do not trouble the developer if you find out who is he.
READ THIS HERE
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What i pointed is where the developer actually mentioned he his working on it and the link can be sourced by anyone, and people in that thread have been checking the github as mentioned. Theres now two threads on the discussion of cm12.1 which talk similar. All you are doing is not mentioning the dev based someone who used his work without his permission. Also to add the dev replied that thread to have to say they having working booting img just some features aren't working.
Link to his github for the current work
https://github.com/Hima-Dev/android_device_htc_hima-common
Thank GOD
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I'll be happy to donate
I'm really excited about this, because the person doing this is making amazing progress and at last count I want to say it was only Wi-Fi and one other thing not working with said developer already pretty certain that they know how to change that, it's just a lot of trial and error (any dev knows how frustrating it can be having to compile the source all over again to test a tiny change)
What this means for me, personally, is that I can do what I've done on past htc devices and knock out a fairly complete port of miui (some default miui stuff doesn't play nice during flash, like the camera app, so I'll likely include the stock m9 camera app as packaged for other phones so it doesn't rely on sense)
Anyway... ?
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What i pointed is where the developer actually mentioned he his working on it and the link can be sourced by anyone, and people in that thread have been checking the github as mentioned. Theres now two threads on the discussion of cm12.1 which talk similar. All you are doing is not mentioning the dev based someone who used his work without his permission. Also to add the dev replied that thread to have to say they having working booting img just some features aren't working.
Link to his github for the current work
https://github.com/Hima-Dev/android_device_htc_hima-common
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Cheers for side information. I know the developer and I'm pretty sure you'd get a kernel and Cm12.1 pretty soon.
Actually I Would let the developers sort out their differences themselves, for me it is Cm12.1 coming pretty soon.
agentfusion said:
I'm really excited about this, because the person doing this is making amazing progress and at last count I want to say it was only Wi-Fi and one other thing not working with said developer already pretty certain that they know how to change that, it's just a lot of trial and error (any dev knows how frustrating it can be having to compile the source all over again to test a tiny change)
What this means for me, personally, is that I can do what I've done on past htc devices and knock out a fairly complete port of miui (some default miui stuff doesn't play nice during flash, like the camera app, so I'll likely include the stock m9 camera app as packaged for other phones so it doesn't rely on sense)
Anyway... ?
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Whhhaaatttttt?!?!?! Miui?!?!?
Wait
Galaxysm said:
Whhhaaatttttt?!?!?! Miui?!?!?
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Yeah. Once we have a reliable port of CM12, then porting other stuff is pretty easy. All I have to do is find a device that already has miui with the same resolution and dpi/ppi and port the assets over to the m9.
Preferably I'd like to port the miui patchrom so I can setup an automated build system to build a fresh copy every time aosp and miui are updated, but I don't have anywhere near enough time for that.
agentfusion said:
Yeah. Once we have a reliable port of CM12, then porting other stuff is pretty easy. All I have to do is find a device that already has miui with the same resolution and dpi/ppi and port the assets over to the m9.
Preferably I'd like to port the miui patchrom so I can setup an automated build system to build a fresh copy every time aosp and miui are updated, but I don't have anywhere near enough time for that.
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Nice I can't wait!!
Nice to see this coming ... And for MIUI I haven't been able to use it since I change my original EVO ... It would be great to have it as an option ...
Great news
Daily reminder that CM12 is a desperately needed and coveted thingy for the m8+1.
Is it lollipop 5.1?
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vegetaleb said:
Is it lollipop 5.1?
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Cm12.1 is lolipop 5.1
Anyone knows the progress on this...
epedrosa said:
Anyone knows the progress on this...
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Be patient. The OP says "within a month" and it has only been roughly 2 weeks

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