This was using miui rom. I may do another video agaisnt the Pixel 2 with AOSPA rom with the google camera
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Great video! Sad to see how bad the OIS is in the Mi6 compared the 5T with only EIS.
The EIS on the OP5T is amazing, probably better than the Pixel 2
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Great video! Sad to see how bad the OIS is in the Mi6 compared the 5T with only EIS.
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OIS is for sharp photos (and video frames), EIS is for stabilizing motion between frames. OIS doesn't do that. People seem to mistake the two and compare them. It's two different things for two different purposes.
I prefer OIS all the way. You can always apply EIS after the fact, but you cannot sharpen the photo (or frame of the video) after it's been captured blurry...
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I looked around, and couldn't find a thread for video or photo samples.
Lets see some shooting from this phone!
Here is a spur of the moment video shot on the way home. I'm going to do some more proper shooting this week, next to a SGS5, and a DSLR. I also plan to shoot with it tomorrow at the dragstrip.
Shot with the 4k DCI setting, then rendered @1080P in Sony Vegas Pro. No other grading or changes were made to the video/audio, frame rate, etc. The original file was 2:44, and 1.3gb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1nCHcYs4MM&feature=youtu.be
[PHOTOS] OnePlus One user photo and video discussion thread
Hello,
Please post in the thread linked above. There's no need to open a duplicate thread about the same topic.
hello guys, Camara on CM is really bad compared to what i had on GS2 .
i'll share with you guys a series of photos, where i tried diferent type of scenes and i never get a photo without noise. Hope you guys can help in case you have suggestions, and also share your experience.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h4tb1m1weponkwl/IMG_20140914_084510.jpg?dl=0
Thanks
correct link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/brmw4bcd5e7kg87/AAAQaMbc6soKFa6BxfV1zB9Ua?dl=0
You take the absolute worst pictures. Nothing will make those look good. Check the settings in your camera. The phone is capable of much better than that.
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Lol yeah, I wonder why turning the lights off in a room and using only the flash on the phone makes bad pictures [/sarcasm]
On a serious note, please learn to take photographs before saying the camera sucks
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There is a dedicated thread for this topic already:
[PHOTOS] OnePlus One user photo and video discussion thread
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There is a dedicated thread for this topic already:
[PHOTOS] OnePlus One user photo and video discussion thread
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Thread closed because, as noted by CafeKampuchia, there is already a thread to discuss issues with the OPO camera. Please feel free to repost into the camera discussion thread.
Thanks!
Would like to start this again and get memzworld insight on the cameras. Hopefully silly mods won't close this one, as this topic needs it's own thread.
I think the message is if you want a great camera phone get either an s6, note4, g4 or iphone 6+ and neither will disappoint you (how's the z3 because somy actually makes the sensors)
Thanks for creating this thread.
I agree with you about the mods. They are too overzealous with the closing of threads. I don't want to go into one single thread for all things related to the camera when there are so many facets of it that can be discussed. Those huge threads with hundreds of pages are a PAIN to sift through - there can be 3 or 4 different discussions running at once. It's way too cumbersome.
If you want to discuss the S6 camera on its own, go to the camera thread, but S6 vs G4 camera I think deserves its own thread.
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Would like to start this again and get memzworld insight on the cameras. Hopefully silly mods won't close this one, as this topic needs it's own thread.
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Silly mods won't close it. Sensible and sane mods on the other hand...
Camera is camera is camera. Should we have individual threads for S6 vs every other phone camera there is? I think not. All comparisons should go in the S6 camera thread.
Thread closed as its a duplicate.
What do you guys think? Pixel 2 suffers in low light but other than that, its very good.
Mods can you move this to real life reviews? I cant make a thread there for some reason
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What do you guys think?
The review, as mostly 99% of all camera reviews on YouTube - and specifically the Indian ones, is a mess (to be diplomatic about it!).
There is absolutely no details about the settings that guy used. I presume he only used out-of-the-box / automatic settings on both iPhone X and Pixel 2 XL which is ... lame.
iPhone is very restrictive in terms of what a user is allowed to do with camera settings and the night shots, while improved over the previous generations iPhones, they are still messy. Somehow following the trend, Google has emasculated the camera of some real balls but still has kept to aces in his sleeve: HDR+ and HDR+ Enhanced.
Provided the reviewing guy would have really wanted to squeeze the most of the two smartphone camera he might have gone with the Pixel 2 XL HDR+ for the night and the results would have been really different.
Don't get me wrong. Pixel 2 can be awful for night shots if one's using the defaults in the camera but can also produce wonders with the HDR+ Enhanced mode. Not to mention that there ar community custom versions of Google Camera APK which for the night shots can yield stunning results with way longer exposure times, yet a tripod would be needed to stabilize the beast.
I have attached a sample of nearly dark scene from my Pixel 2 shot, handheld, with Camera_v3.8c_test.apk.
Without looking at it, in the prior comparisons I've seen, I generally prefer the opposite, of iphone X photos for daylight and Pixel 2 for low light. I also tend to prefer the colors of the Pixel photos. And then it is mixed for special situations like close ups and landscape shots.
So it probably is a matter of comparing really good cameras at this point versus the old ones where there would often be a clear winner in most categories. But I'll watch and see how this is done.
Edit: Ok, so I haven't changed my mind after watching the review, except the way he took low light photos did look much worse. But I've seen dim light comparisons where the Pixel 2XL pictures look better.
Definitely a bit of eye of the beholder in the review. It is very hard to compare photos within a video, versus having the actual photos to pull up. His first comparison where he says they look basically the same, I would say the iphone was much clearer. i.e. the sign is clearer and plants in the background have more detail.
I would prefer if he used one of those setups with the phones mounted to something side by side (other than close up shots). Instead he seems to do one, then the other as some have very different angles. Even in the video where he has them somehow mounted, the video does not seem to be locked together. Like it isn't a very solid mounting arrangement. I know there is image stabilization going on, but it just doesn't look like the phones are moving in lock step.
The videos have to be stop framed as he moves around way too much. From that, I think most of the time the Pixel is much better, but at times the iphone video looks better, and usually when it is darker. But he's also combining them in software to make the youtube video, so it would be again nice to have the actual videos rather than and edited together one.
Oddly, the iphone photos look less blue, but video looks more blue and more muted colors in general.
I found this other comparison. Doesn't do low light outside though.
https://www.cnet.com/pictures/iphone-x-vs-pixel-2-photos-are-two-cameras-better-than-one/
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Without looking at it, in the prior comparisons I've seen, I generally prefer the opposite, of iphone X photos for daylight and Pixel 2 for low light. I also tend to prefer the colors of the Pixel photos. And then it is mixed for special situations like close ups and landscape shots.
So it probably is a matter of comparing really good cameras at this point versus the old ones where there would often be a clear winner in most categories. But I'll watch and see how this is done.
Edit: Ok, so I haven't changed my mind after watching the review, except the way he took low light photos did look much worse. But I've seen dim light comparisons where the Pixel 2XL pictures look better.
Definitely a bit of eye of the beholder in the review. It is very hard to compare photos within a video, versus having the actual photos to pull up. His first comparison where he says they look basically the same, I would say the iphone was much clearer. i.e. the sign is clearer and plants in the background have more detail.
I would prefer if he used one of those setups with the phones mounted to something side by side (other than close up shots). Instead he seems to do one, then the other as some have very different angles. Even in the video where he has them somehow mounted, the video does not seem to be locked together. Like it isn't a very solid mounting arrangement. I know there is image stabilization going on, but it just doesn't look like the phones are moving in lock step.
The videos have to be stop framed as he moves around way too much. From that, I think most of the time the Pixel is much better, but at times the iphone video looks better, and usually when it is darker. But he's also combining them in software to make the youtube video, so it would be again nice to have the actual videos rather than and edited together one.
Oddly, the iphone photos look less blue, but video looks more blue and more muted colors in general.
I found this other comparison. Doesn't do low light outside though.
https://www.cnet.com/pictures/iphone-x-vs-pixel-2-photos-are-two-cameras-better-than-one/
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Your observations are sharp on. Indeed the review is off by margins from a relevant one.
Here is another night shot, out of the camera, but I can't remember if I used the Google Camera or the modified one... Anyway the images speaks truth about camera's capabilities with Google's magic algorithms.
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The review, as mostly 99% of all camera reviews on YouTube - and specifically the Indian ones, is a mess (to be diplomatic about it!).
There is absolutely no details about the settings that guy used. I presume he only used out-of-the-box / automatic settings on both iPhone X and Pixel 2 XL which is ... lame.
iPhone is very restrictive in terms of what a user is allowed to do with camera settings and the night shots, while improved over the previous generations iPhones, they are still messy. Somehow following the trend, Google has emasculated the camera of some real balls but still has kept to aces in his sleeve: HDR+ and HDR+ Enhanced.
Provided the reviewing guy would have really wanted to squeeze the most of the two smartphone camera he might have gone with the Pixel 2 XL HDR+ for the night and the results would have been really different.
Don't get me wrong. Pixel 2 can be awful for night shots if one's using the defaults in the camera but can also produce wonders with the HDR+ Enhanced mode. Not to mention that there ar community custom versions of Google Camera APK which for the night shots can yield stunning results with way longer exposure times, yet a tripod would be needed to stabilize the beast.
I have attached a sample of nearly dark scene from my Pixel 2 shot, handheld, with Camera_v3.8c_test.apk.
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You don't know what you're talking about. HDR+ Enhanced does NOT work better at night. The ONLY thing that mode is to be used for is, very rarely, better dynamic range. The difference was more noticeable in the 2016 Pixels. In the 2017 phones, HDR+ On and HDR+ Enhanced make the same result the vast majority of the time. HDR+ On (default mode) is BETTER at night because it captures more frames and reduces noise. The Pixel is noisier than the iPhone in lowlight photography... but has much better dynamic range, and typically better detail. If you don't like the noise, smooth out the noise (and detail as a result) in post processing.
this is a good comparison video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m70Fuoz2cxw
Since it has the same camera hardware thought its worth posting here. The Pixel 2 still the best only falling short in low light photos. Anyone agree?
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I'll try to remember tonight, to take one of my long exposures of a room so dark I can't see anything. I've done it before (just to experiment, I deleted them) and the P2 gets pretty good pictures (considering that even OIS isn't that good for a 10 second hand-held exposure). If I remember, I'll post the result. It's overcast now, so bright-light/deep shadow isn't there. (But the dynamic range is pretty good - nothing like what you can do on some films, but better than Kodachrome.)
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I'll try to remember tonight, to take one of my long exposures of a room so dark I can't see anything. I've done it before (just to experiment, I deleted them) and the P2 gets pretty good pictures (considering that even OIS isn't that good for a 10 second hand-held exposure). If I remember, I'll post the result. It's overcast now, so bright-light/deep shadow isn't there. (But the dynamic range is pretty good - nothing like what you can do on some films, but better than Kodachrome.)
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How did you manage 10-sec exposure? What app are you using?
LenX.
Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be on Play any longer, but you can get it on ApkPure.
Thanks for your video.
I think that the S9 tends to overexpose a bit on photos, leading to burnt highlights.
Weirdly it looks like the opposite is true for videos as the pixel tends to overexpose, but personally I don't care too much about videos, while I want my pictures to be the best possible with the hardware.