Why custom ROM camera cannot defeat stock ROM camera quality? - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

Why custom ROM camera cannot defeat stock ROM camera quality?

Because it can and does? Stock rom has awful side effects like aggressive sharpening and noise reduction. I hated it and had to mod my system files to get decent photos. Unless the custom Rom you are using has bad camera library files or something, I don't see why it wouldn't be a major improvement over stock.
I know some custom roms, like the pixel experience one, are supposed to have camera2 and HDR+ out of the box. Maybe it depends on the rom?

Dishe said:
Because it can and does? Stock rom has awful side effects like aggressive sharpening and noise reduction. I hated it and had to mod my system files to get decent photos. Unless the custom Rom you are using has bad camera library files or something, I don't see why it wouldn't be a major improvement over stock.
I know some custom roms, like the pixel experience one, are supposed to have camera2 and HDR+ out of the box. Maybe it depends on the rom?
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I have used pixel experience too, but i see almost all custom ROMs fails miserably at low light compare to stock ROM, may be some custom ROMs are using bad libraries..agreed!

because stock uses Motorola algorithm magic tricks at their finest...

iBART said:
because stock uses Motorola algorithm magic tricks at their finest...
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Well , the motorola magic tricks aren't good at all .
Just look at the agressive noise reduction and oversharpening.
I think side loading the google camera app on the custom roms might help.

firefreeze234 said:
Well , the motorola magic tricks aren't good at all .
Just look at the agressive noise reduction and oversharpening.
I think side loading the google camera app on the custom roms might help.
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IMHO, stock and Google camera manual mode gives you very good pics.

lathif106 said:
I have used pixel experience too, but i see almost all custom ROMs fails miserably at low light compare to stock ROM, may be some custom ROMs are using bad libraries..agreed!
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I use PE. Use gcam mods by Savitar and be happy

Thalles Cazaroto said:
I use PE. Use gcam mods by Savitar and be happy
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where is that mods? thanks for your reply

firefreeze234 said:
Well , the motorola magic tricks aren't good at all .
Just look at the agressive noise reduction and oversharpening.
I think side loading the google camera app on the custom roms might help.
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Thanks! Any link that helps me to do this!

zenez said:
where is that mods? thanks for your reply
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They aren't on XDA... yet. I wanted to add them to my camera mod guide here but haven't gotten around to it yet. Savitar is defcomg here on XDA. He's a pretty awesome source of information on this topic.

Thalles Cazaroto said:
I use PE. Use gcam mods by Savitar and be happy
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Can you post these mods here and also if you can ask savitar to mod camera lib callibration as pixel2, cause both got the same sensor and having pixel2 callibration will surely improve camera quality.

shanks125 said:
Can you post these mods here and also if you can ask savitar to mod camera lib callibration as pixel2, cause both got the same sensor and having pixel2 callibration will surely improve camera quality.
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Actually, Savitar said the Pixel 2 calibration was worse than the one he's been using, aside from adc noise profiling and color calibration. The rest was unusable/ didn't enhance.
There's a thread where I've tried to gather relevant links and information about the camera here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-fix-g5-plus-camera-mods-tools-t3722844

No need for custom Rom. Use Bacon camera from the play store.
Original post on the Lenovo forums.
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...MAGE-PROCESSING-CAMERA-APP/m-p/3880701#M14669

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Lots Camera Ports for AOSP\CM

Hello fellas!
we all know that photo quality isn't the same as stock running roms like AOSP\CM.
So i want to share this google+ group with you:
https://plus.google.com/communities/105192843938506663262
Let's make it clear, i m just sharing a link, THIS IS NONE OF MY WORK.
Big up to this amazing guy that work hard for the android comunity.
Currently i'm running the HTC 10 port on mokee rom, photo quality it's defenitly better than Snap Camera!!
To all the google addicts, google camera can work on our device you need only an older apk.
Link: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-2-7-008-release/
this one runs without problems on all roms, the newers are all giving problems.
I hope u find this helpfull
Someone Can share some feedback?
Next week I will try Slim ROM with HTC 9 port
I'd like to find some good camera app with the focus peaking, but until now I had no success.
MIUI have it, but I'd like to have it in custom ROMs too.
Fortinho said:
I'd like to find some good camera app with the focus peaking, but until now I had no success.
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I don't know if I m right but maybe it's good for u
Link: https://www.google.it/search?q=fv+5...j0l3.7919j0j4&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
Philb90 said:
I don't know if I m right but maybe it's good for u
Link: https://www.google.it/search?q=fv+5...j0l3.7919j0j4&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
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Thanks, but I don't know why Camera FV-5 doesn't even have manual focus
Mabye I'll try with custom ROMs, but with MIUI no manual focus.
Fortinho said:
Thanks, but I don't know why Camera FV-5 doesn't even have manual focus
Mabye I'll try with custom ROMs, but with MIUI no manual focus.
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Either in custom ROM, u will have just snapdragon camera
Philb90 said:
Either in custom ROM, u will have just snapdragon camera
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I know that mostly Custom ROMs have Snapdragon camera, I was saying that mabye I'll try to use Camera FV-5 on some custom to see if there will be manual focus at least (I don't think there will be focus peaking tho). In MIUI installing FV-5 there's not even manual focus, instead on MIUI camera app there's manual focus and focus peaking too.
Fortinho said:
I know that mostly Custom ROMs have Snapdragon camera, I was saying that mabye I'll try to use Camera FV-5 on some custom to see if there will be manual focus at least (I don't think there will be focus peaking tho). In MIUI installing FV-5 there's not even manual focus, instead on MIUI camera app there's manual focus and focus peaking too.
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After Leaving MIUI 8 and choosing CM13 on my mi4i , i just felt miui camera app is awesome. A d after 2 weeks trying every 3rd party camera app, luckily i found a good alternative to this, and that is OPPO camera mod, you can find oppo camera app searching in threads. That works great but i have downloaded a oppo camera version that looks same as R7 camera app. You can try that searching in forums.
ahmad_m.azam said:
After Leaving MIUI 8 and choosing CM13 on my mi4i , i just felt miui camera app is awesome. A d after 2 weeks trying every 3rd party camera app, luckily i found a good alternative to this, and that is OPPO camera mod, you can find oppo camera app searching in threads. That works great but i have downloaded a oppo camera version that looks same as R7 camera app. You can try that searching in forums.
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Thank you!
Probably I tried some Oppo camera with my Mi4, but I can't remember well.
I'll definitely give it a try, anyway I guess there will not be focus peaking feature.
Fortinho said:
Thank you!
Probably I tried some Oppo camera with my Mi4, but I can't remember well.
I'll definitely give it a try, anyway I guess there will not be focus peaking feature.
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Actually, Oppo camera app have more features than miui camera app, like HDR, HD pic (more sturations for cropping), slow shutter (lightning painting), Gif, doubke exposure etc etc... All you need is to download 2 apks, 1 for app 1 for plugins.. thats it. I HAVE UPLOADED 2 CAMERA APP INTERFACE SCREEN SHOTS. THATS Mi4i. CM13
ahmad_m.azam said:
Actually, Oppo camera app have more features than miui camera app, like HDR, HD pic (more sturations for cropping), slow shutter (lightning painting), Gif, doubke exposure etc etc... All you need is to download 2 apks, 1 for app 1 for plugins.. thats it. I HAVE UPLOADED 2 CAMERA APP INTERFACE SCREEN SHOTS. THATS Mi4i. CM13
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Can you share the link of the download?
Thanks
Edit: Found it! It seems better than cm camera
Try footej camera from play store, to me its perfect and raw images are quite beautiful. I am using camera api 2
giardux91 said:
Can you share the link of the download?
Thanks
Edit: Found it! It seems better than cm camera
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Could you share download link? I would appreciate it
marcoly said:
Could you share download link? I would appreciate it
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/themes-apps/port-coloros-camera-cm11s-t3030369
giardux91 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/themes-apps/port-coloros-camera-cm11s-t3030369
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How about plug-ins? Should I use this one?
Code:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/5ghwe6rz2m129f0/2.67-ColorOS-addons-fix.zip
marcoly said:
How about plug-ins? Should I use this one?
Code:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/5ghwe6rz2m129f0/2.67-ColorOS-addons-fix.zip
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Yes, you should.
Enjoy focus peaking, RAW shots and so on!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69247909&postcount=304
EDIT: for me have some fc.
Someone has any app for manage Manual Exposition Time? I check with some apps but never works, only works with MI app
thibest said:
Someone has any app for manage Manual Exposition Time? I check with some apps but never works, only works with MI app
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If you enable camera2 api, all apps that support it will work. Otherwise, only MIUI camera has it (proprietary api?).
leledumbo said:
If you enable camera2 api, all apps that support it will work. Otherwise, only MIUI camera has it (proprietary api?).
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Thanks for response!!, I've just enabled camera2 api but right front camera doesnt work fine, It's rotate 180ยบ!! hahaha
Do you know any solution?

Third Party Camera Apps

I know camera performance when using a custom ROM is worse than when using the stock ROM partly because the stock camera app has been optimised to the hardware on the phone. However, is there any difference in image quality from photos when using a third party camera app on a stock ROM, to using the same app on a custom ROM?
Camera fv-5
rehannali said:
Camera fv-5
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I'm well aware of Camera FV-5.
The question I was asking was if Camera FV-5 (or any third party app) works better on a stock ROM than a custom ROM (or is it's image quality the same; no matter what ROM is used)?
Kuch Kuch said:
I'm well aware of Camera FV-5.
The question I was asking was if Camera FV-5 (or any third party app) works better on a stock ROM than a custom ROM (or is it's image quality the same; no matter what ROM is used)?
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It'll always be better on stock..
But to be honest besides 60fps video the images aren't dissimilar.
Try the modded Google Camera.
dladz said:
It'll always be better on stock..
But to be honest besides 60fps video the images aren't dissimilar.
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Thanks for the clarification. Would there also be a difference when shooting in DNG?
RogerF81 said:
Try the modded Google Camera.
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I have heard of this app, but I don't think it makes any difference to me as I shoot in DNG all the time.
Kuch Kuch said:
Thanks for the clarification. Would there also be a difference when shooting in DNG?
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Honestly haven't noticed mate. I'm about to revert back to pure fusion as the battery on no limits in comparison is huge, I've gone from 10 hours screen on time to 6 with no limits..
Same apps, same options, same theme, thought stock-ish would be massively superior in terms of battery performance? Lol it's not..anyway, off topic

Custom ROM Advice - Camera?

Hi all,
I'm going to install a custom ROM but wanted to ask a few questions first.
What's the deal with the camera? Camera quality is important to me and I've heard that custom ROMs can degrade the camera performance. What exactly happens? I don't think much of the stock camera app and so use Snap Camera instead as it has the ability to turn off noise-reduction and has way more features.
Will there be any difference using Snap on a custom ROM. Does HDR still work well?
More generally, what ROMs are good in terms of being bug free, smooth and recent Android version (7+).
Thanks
Oh, and if anyone could point me in the direction of a good guide for initial rooting and custom recovery for the 900F that would be super! :good:
tooplanx said:
Hi all,
I'm going to install a custom ROM but wanted to ask a few questions first.
What's the deal with the camera? Camera quality is important to me and I've heard that custom ROMs can degrade the camera performance. What exactly happens? I don't think much of the stock camera app and so use Snap Camera instead as it has the ability to turn off noise-reduction and has way more features.
Will there be any difference using Snap on a custom ROM. Does HDR still work well?
More generally, what ROMs are good in terms of being bug free, smooth and recent Android version (7+).
Thanks
Oh, and if anyone could point me in the direction of a good guide for initial rooting and custom recovery for the 900F that would be super! :good:
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Man, for me, the performance of Snap camera is better than stock, I was fear of the same, camera quality, but for me HDR and noise-reduction is much better than samsung's camera. Now I can't barely use stock roms without Snap, or Mi A2 Magisk module. It just don't have so many functions like stock one, but I don't mind for it.
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tooplanx said:
Oh, and if anyone could point me in the direction of a good guide for initial rooting and custom recovery for the 900F that would be super! :good:
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/root-how-to-install-twrp-custom-rom-t3677324
Here, just make sure you're downloading files for your phone model, you can see it in "About the phone" on settings of your phone, thanks for who made that guide of the link
For the camera just use snap camera (default LineageOS app) and this mod https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-15-1-camera-supporting-60fps-120fps-t3809145
Also, for rooting G900F you just need to flash TWRP using odin and then the desired root solution, (i would recomend latest magisk)
Thanks both.
I've been using my phone on CrDroid first, then Mokee for about a week now and I think the camera is just fine.
I have done some comparison shots and there seems to be no difference between Snap Cam on stock and Snap Cam on custom rom.
The few differences I have found are in the denoising process. If you like denoising (and I don't), then the stock TouchWiz camera does a much better job of resolving detail and contrast than Snap Cam or the in built camera app of CrDroid or Mokee does. Denoising is pretty bad. However, I have recently installed Google Camera on Mokee and that seems to do a pretty good job with denoising. Alternatively you could just use an app like Snapseed to denoise photos you think need it, and get much better results.

Ways to improve camera quality

Hi there,
Was wondering if there is any known way to improve the camera quality a little.
Like for example do you use a 3rd party app or some mod for stock app,
or is the stock camera the best you can get ?
r33fd said:
Hi there,
Was wondering if there is any known way to improve the camera quality a little.
Like for example do you use a 3rd party app or some mod for stock app,
or is the stock camera the best you can get ?
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I'm not sure if gcam works on note 4 but worth looking into mate
callumbr1 said:
I'm not sure if gcam works on note 4 but worth looking into mate
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I already tried but sadly the newer versions, who actually improve image quality require newer android version and camera api2. Not sure if anyone managed to get it working yet, but on stock rom it surely doesn't work.
The only gcams that are working are really old and the picture quality is significantly worse than the stock camera.
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I'm not sure if gcam works on note 4 but worth looking into mate
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It's not possible i tried
The very best way is to replace the camera lens cover!
It's a small part, it's cheap and you'll be astonished
kolembo said:
The very best way is to replace the camera lens cover!
It's a small part, it's cheap and you'll be astonished
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+1

About camera quality

Hey guys, I hope you're all doing well.
I've been wondering if there is any way to switch from MIUI to another room but retaining the same camera quality, I've tried with LOS 16, Pixel experience and xiaomi.eu with the anx camera mod, they're all really awesome ROMs but I've noticed that the camera quality is a little bit worse in detail and color than the stock rom one at best.
I'll be thankful if anyone could guide me in this subject.
Thank you for your time. Cheers.
Why don't you try a camera app with full manual controls?
Like Snap Camera HDR, it's awesome & takes great pics.
Mohamedkam000 said:
Why don't you try a camera app with full manual controls?
Like Snap Camera HDR, it's awesome & takes great pics.
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I've tried but can't get any more detail/quality than it has, most of them don't even let me use the 48mp camera. I've heard that it has to do with the camera libraries that aren't open source or something like that. But I would like to know if there's any custom ROM that has the same quality as stock or if there's any way or something to be installed to get that. Or if I'm stuck with MIUI if I want camera performance.
Thank you for your patience, I don't really understand these matters but I'm looking forward to learn by asking.
https://camera.aeonax.com/#predownloads
Test this
joke19 said:
https://camera.aeonax.com/#predownloads
Test this
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Yes, as I said in the first post, I already tried using anx camera but the detail in pictures somehow is not the same, I tested it side by side with a stock RN7 and a LOS16 RN7 both at the same time and there was a lot of detail lost. Maybe I did a bad flashing or something, I don't know, but this loss in detail is normal?
On a side note, is there a module or a zip or something that I can flash in order to make MIUI look more like stock? I don't like the inbuilt theming that it has, as it only reskins the system.
Thank you guys
Psicovirus said:
Yes, as I said in the first post, I already tried using anx camera but the detail in pictures somehow is not the same, I tested it side by side with a stock RN7 and a LOS16 RN7 both at the same time and there was a lot of detail lost. Maybe I did a bad flashing or something, I don't know, but this loss in detail is normal?
On a side note, is there a module or a zip or something that I can flash in order to make MIUI look more like stock? I don't like the inbuilt theming that it has, as it only reskins the system.
Thank you guys
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They say google camera has more details than stock.
ichundwir said:
Hello, first ... The gcam versions are great and much better than the stock cam because much more details in the pic. Big thanks to the developer.
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I tested nearly all..from 6.1 to now 7, from all modders
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But i only see a different in the awb and sharpness up to the lib.
So ..for me.. there is no great different. 7. looks for me like the 6.3 versions (picquality)
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I miss really a pro mode with manual iso and shuttertime.
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That together works for me in no versions from all modders. Is there a chance to get it. Like in the stockcam?
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What you think?
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Best greetings
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Thread link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-7/themes/google-camera-v7-0-009-bulkin043-aka-t3968340
Psicovirus said:
they're all really awesome ROMs but I've noticed that the camera quality is a little bit worse in detail and color than the stock rom one at best..
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GCAM way better. Huge difference to Stock or ANX...
IMHO the trCam 7.2 Mod is the absolute best right now https://t.me/RedmiNote7Photography
Better than Parrot's or Arnova
Don't install modded gcam. They make the phone run slow, takes up memory even when it's not used. Mi camera isn't bad anymore, after all these updates.
Mohamedkam000 said:
They say google camera has more details than stock.
Thread link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-7/themes/google-camera-v7-0-009-bulkin043-aka-t3968340
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But the loss of quality is because the camera app or the ROM? That's what I don't understand.
jamespmi said:
GCAM way better. Huge difference to Stock or ANX...
IMHO the trCam 7.2 Mod is the absolute best right now https://t.me/RedmiNote7Photography
Better than Parrot's or Arnova
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I did not know about trCam, can you use the 48MP there?
kennyk09 said:
Don't install modded gcam. They make the phone run slow, takes up memory even when it's not used. Mi camera isn't bad anymore, after all these updates.
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which camera are you using?
I had BSG version on my phone until 2 days ago. I'm not really a camera guy, I don't need 2 cameras on my phone. So I uninstalled. Then I noticed increase in overall snappiness, more free memory, and less storage cache. Also, as I wrote, stock camera was poor in the beginning but now it's not that bad after all these updates.
jamespmi said:
GCAM way better. Huge difference to Stock or ANX...
IMHO the trCam 7.2 Mod is the absolute best right now https://t.me/RedmiNote7Photography
Better than Parrot's or Arnova
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Don't work properly on stock miui 11
vagelis74 said:
Don't work properly on stock miui 11
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So mine is an exception then? Sorry, simply not true your statement
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Psicovirus said:
But the loss of quality is because the camera app or the ROM? That's what I don't understand.
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The loss is because of the camera app
Psicovirus said:
I did not know about trCam, can you use the 48MP there?.
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Some mods have 48MP in manual mode, but the image quality is not appreciable.
Psicovirus said:
which camera are you using?.
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Obviously the wrong one.
Try these kind of photos with the Stock Camera. Good luck.
Since they fixed the depth sensor issue on lavender GCAM mods are dramatically better
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So mine is an exception then? Sorry, simply not true your statement
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The loss is because of the camera app
Some mods have 48MP in manual mode, but the image quality is not appreciable.
Obviously the wrong one.
Try these kind of photos with the Stock Camera. Good luck.
Since they fixed the depth sensor issue on lavender GCAM mods are dramatically better
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I can't create and load xml and there isn't active all the settings on miui 11,this is the same behaviour for me and other guys with stock rom, are you on stock rom?
For me it's the best gcam for lavender but now I am using tr v5
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So mine is an exception then? Sorry, simply not true your statement
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The loss is because of the camera app
Some mods have 48MP in manual mode, but the image quality is not appreciable.
Obviously the wrong one.
Try these kind of photos with the Stock Camera. Good luck.
Since they fixed the depth sensor issue on lavender GCAM mods are dramatically better
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So to summarize, I could be having a custom rom with the same image quality than stock MIUI?
Psicovirus said:
So to summarize, I could be having a custom rom with the same image quality than stock MIUI?
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Or better if you use GCam
Thanks man and to everyone, really appreciated

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