Watch still rings with phone on vibrate only - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

There is a thread about this in the Huawei watch Q&A section: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-watch/help/watch-rings-phone-vibrate-t3358936
It's not getting any response there, so I thought I would bring it to the general Android Wear section.
As I posted there, I want my watch to ring when my phone does and not when my phone is muted. I attend a few events a week where everyone's phone must be muted. I imagine that do not disturb mode would work to stop my watch from ringing, but I want it to vibrate only so I'll at least feel when I get notifications.
If I'm reading this Google article right, this should be possible and automatic:
https://support.google.com/androidwear/answer/6056843?hl=en
Does this work correctly on other Android Wear watches, or does anyone have a fix?

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Is a repeat audible in-call timer available? or can it be made?

Hi,
Is there any application that will allow me to set a repeat audible alarm that notifies you every X minutes whilst your on the call?
For clarification, the type of beep/tone im looking for is similar to a call waiting beep that you hear when on a call, its un-obtrusive. It's built into my Motorola A1000 (also on SE P900 etc) which uses the Symbian OS and is in the 'Call tracking' menu listed as Audible Timer where you can nominate the time ie 3minutes and then theres a check box to have the audible timer repeat over and over whilst you are on the call.
Its a great feature that i would love to have on a WM6 PPC PE.
Phone Alarm does not do this.
Nice Idea
It Does Seem like a nice Idea.
Could definitely use a application like that.
I'm sure it can be made, if anint already there...
you could also make this request on the pocketmax.net forum. they made the phoneAlarm and Redial (freeware) applications, so I guess it would be very easy for them to include it in one of theire apps.
I was talking to Bruce Jackson from PocketMax back in september about this but he said they couldnt do it because Windows Mobile use 2 separate audio channels, one for the earpiece and the other speaker phone (which is what phone Alarm uses)
I still think is should be possible, seeing that other 'audible in-call tones' like 'call waiting', 'new message tones' as well as 'increase volume beeps' all happen in the ear piece when your on a call.
Who has experience or knows of software that can modify these tones. Thats who would have a better idea how this can be achieved!
I guess having a vibration every minute would thus be very easy to do for Bruce Jackson from PocketMax. I can understand the phone ear loudspeaker is very hard to obtain (I remember recording from this is also impossible for the Wizard since the channels are hardware separated), so a vibration would be better than nothing.
Anyone knows a solution for having audible in-call timer like motorola phones.
Any advance in development community between 2007 and 2009?
Thank you for your answer
I would really want one, its really painful for the entire call just because of that single second.

Escalating Ringtone

I've noticed my phone always starts to ring at where I set the volume to and then escalates to be very loud after a few seconds. I didnt see any settings to change this. Is this happening to anybody else?
Is it in your pocket when it does that?
I noticed in the HTC Sense demo video it says if it is in your pocket or purse it will ring loud so you can hear it. I think it has to do with proximity and light sources. If i have it sitting out, it will ring quietly, but it is always loud in my pocket.
adamr240 said:
Is it in your pocket when it does that?
I noticed in the HTC Sense demo video it says if it is in your pocket or purse it will ring loud so you can hear it. I think it has to do with proximity and light sources. If i have it sitting out, it will ring quietly, but it is always loud in my pocket.
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Actually yeah. Thats usually when it gets loud. I dont really like that as it gets super loud sometimes. Why wouldnt they have a setting for this?
Any news on this? Because I also find it quite annoying that the ringer is so loud even when I'm sitting in the quiet office...
alphanimal said:
Any news on this? Because I also find it quite annoying that the ringer is so loud even when I'm sitting in the quiet office...
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I have the same issue! It happens on ALL Sense ROM's. If I am running AOSP (CM6 or MIUI) it is not an issue. Are there any ways to disable this setting if it is supposed to do so? Mine is on my belt in a case and when I'm in the office it rings way too loud. If the phone is on my desk it rings as I have the volume set.
Actually I found you can disable the loud ringer in settings really easy
Settings --> Sound --> Pocket mode
There's no way to adjust the volume though,
Apparently the Shift has the same issue as my EVO or as Sprint would call it..."feature".
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=669629#post669629
You would think there was an app out there to override this.
alphanimal said:
Actually I found you can disable the loud ringer in settings really easy
Settings --> Sound --> Pocket mode
There's no way to adjust the volume though,
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What device/ROM are you running? There is no setting for Pocket mode under settings -> sound on the stock EVO Shift 4G (at least not on mine). Anyone else find this?
I have a Desire Z with the original ROM (Froyo + Sense)
alphanimal said:
I have a Desire Z with the original ROM (Froyo + Sense)
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that setting dont apply to shift
Did a complete wipe 2x using Amon Ra Recovery 2.3 and then flashed a stock image file from HBOOT and updated WiMAX, PRI & NV Radio. The issue was not present on the stock ROM. Wiped the stock ROM and flashed Myn's RLS5.....no more issues. Something was corrupt and enabled the sensor to trigger ring loud (when covered or senses low light) as it is designed to do on the Shift. The EVO does not have Pocket Mode in settings. Whatever the cause.....it is now resolved!
I sent a tweet in the direction of @htc about this yesterday, but they haven't answered. Hopefully we get an update that gives us a 2.x release of sense, not this weird "you have some of the features of new sense but not the whole package." The other feature that I know is there is the one where you can flip the phone over to silence the ring, and in fact, BOTH features are undocumented - the user manual for the shift doesn't mention declining a call by flipping the phone OR the word pocket except in warnings about where not to keep it.
I don't have any hope of a satisfactory answer, though, because in an earlier answer to someone about bugs, they said to submit something at htc.com/support and make sure to mark it a bug report - you can't do that anywhere on the email form and the other two options for support aren't things you "submit." The two times I've contacted them by email were also tremendous disappointments, so... there you go.
Tried to second your post on HTC's support forum but their forum software is misconfigured and my email server is rejecting their mail because it is not a fully-qualified hostname. Meh. Like you, I don't hold out enough hope of a fix to bother with the registration process.
You mentioned flip to silence, but there is actually a setting on the Evo Shift 4G to silence the ringtone when the phone is moved. It's under settings - sounds, and it is "quiet ring on pickup". Since the action of flipping the phone involves moving it, I wonder if you are seeing that setting working when you flip your phone over. My phone stops ringing (if it's not in a pocket) when I pick it up off the table. It doesn't decline the call, it just stops the ringer.
Edit: eh, I made an allowance on my mail server so HTC's misconfigured SMTP server could send my activation message and let me register.
By the way, I posted a workaround on Android Central that works for the way I use the phone. I created a silent ringtone. Then I set the phone to vibrate as well. So in my pocket I feel/hear the vibration but I don't get the ridiculously-loud rings. But I can hear my notifications at normal volume. When the phone is on my desk, the vibration and screen lighting up are enough of an alert for me. Obviously this won't work if you ever keep the phone in a bag or somewhere that you can't hear or feel the vibration, but it works for me as a pocket user.
Three ticks up from silenced on the volume rocker:
Picking the phone up off my desk quiets the ring, flipping it silences the ring. I wonder if turning off quiet ring on pickup will turn off flip to silence... might as well try it.
aaand no it doesn't. Pickup didn't quiet (per the setting now being off) but flip still did silence the ring.
Interesting note: flip-to-silence is actually a silencer; it doesn't decline the call immediately.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/112/t/9935.aspx
For anyone else that wants to weigh in on the issue on the official HTC support forum. Maybe they won't ignore us too hard.
nurrwick said:
Three ticks up from silenced on the volume rocker:
Picking the phone up off my desk quiets the ring, flipping it silences the ring. I wonder if turning off quiet ring on pickup will turn off flip to silence... might as well try it.
aaand no it doesn't. Pickup didn't quiet (per the setting now being off) but flip still did silence the ring.
Interesting note: flip-to-silence is actually a silencer; it doesn't decline the call immediately.
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Ok, makes sense - since I use a silent ringtone, the "quiet" and "silent" are the same to me, LOL. But yes, it doesn't decline the call.
I actually liked the Touch Pro2 where flipping during a call would turn on the speakerphone. Why can't they keep good features like that instead of forcing this new stuff down our throats with no option to turn it off.
Bump/Update: After two tweets on the issue and an entire week of the post I made sitting on the HTC forums, I have had enough of being ignored and went to the email support option.
I'm not resetting my phone again, so I instead borrowed the New Issue text from Google Code project pages and sent steps to duplicate.
Anybody else that might have this problem is welcome to weigh in; I gave links to this thread and the one over on Android Central in my forum post on HTC, which is linked in the support message I sent.
Another update: Today I received my response; I don't have to reset my phone (yet) and my concern is being escalated to whatever the next level of CS is called.
They say escalated department is first-come, first-served, so it may be a while before I know more.
The problem is that HTC sees this as a feature, not a bug. They market this as a way to hear your phone when it's in a bag. While it makes perfect sense to us end-users to have an option to turn this off, from a lab testing standpoint it's not a priority because the function works as designed. If HTC had really thought this through, they should realize that there are some things phones should never do, and ringing at maximum volume unless specifically directed by the user is one of them.
The funny thing is that I'd like almost the exact opposite behavior. I'd prefer the phone to ring (quietly) on my desk, and automatically switch to vibrate when it's in my pocket (as determined by the prox sensor). But people who carry their phones in bags or purses wouldn't benefit from this option. Everybody's needs are different; HTC just determined what they think is the most common scenario and coded Sense that way. I have to give them credit for thinking up the idea, but since it doesn't work for everyone it should be more flexible.
Thanks for taking the time to bring this to their attention. It may well be that a couple of generations of phones from now we'll start seeing more options in these settings, which would be fantastic.
Update: HTC has been calling me at work, once yesterday once today. I have not been at work this week but will be in tomorrow; they gave me a number to call if I wanted to get in touch with them sooner. I will be calling them back as soon as I'm done with my planned tasks tomorrow (assuming they haven't called me first).
Here's hoping news about when we get an update that stops this nonsense comes swiftly!

Notification issues on Android Wear devices?

I'm thinking of switching from Pebble to Android Wear. I'm curious, do notifications from your phone come through consistently and quickly? On Pebble (at least with Android) about 25% of the time a notification takes 2-5 seconds to show up on the watch, or never shows up at all. I'll feel my phone buzz and sit there staring at my watch, waiting. It gets really annoying! Happened with both my S3 and Nexus 5.
Has anyone experienced similar with Android Wear watches? Or particular models? Thanks!
JVimes said:
I'm thinking of switching from Pebble to Android Wear. I'm curious, do notifications from your phone come through consistently and quickly? On Pebble (at least with Android) about 25% of the time a notification takes 2-5 seconds to show up on the watch, or never shows up at all. I'll feel my phone buzz and sit there staring at my watch, waiting. It gets really annoying! Happened with both my S3 and Nexus 5.
Has anyone experienced similar with Android Wear watches? Or particular models? Thanks!
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notifications showed in watch one second maximum after phone
No problems here with my sony smartwatch 3 and samsung note 3.
And you can reply by voice with whatsapp and telegram!
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Great to hear No missed notifications, either? @greenbat or @nechmadi
JVimes said:
Great to hear No missed notifications, either? @greenbat or @nechmadi
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no missed notifications at all .
Awesome. I think I'll be ordering Black Friday or cyber Monday. Now, to decide which one.
No missed notifications at all. Working great!
After 2 weeks with my LG G Watch R, I'm afraid that after 18 months with my Pebble I've grown accustomed to doing things in a certain way and that's not the right way for Android Wear.
Could anybody enlighten me?
My watch almost never vibrates. Mails, Whatsapp messages... it doesn't matter, most notifications show as cards (which I notice after a too long time) but I don't get vibrations.
My phone is a Sony Xperia Z3 with 4.4.4 (5.0.1 on the watch). When I used my Pebble it was always muted and most apps had notifications off. Now Whatsapp and Gmail have notifications on, since I read somewhere that Android Wear devices would only vibrate if the app was supposed to make some noise. However, I still don't get vibrations.
Thanks in advance
reycat said:
My phone is a Sony Xperia Z3 with 4.4.4 (5.0.1 on the watch). When I used my Pebble it was always muted and most apps had notifications off. Now Whatsapp and Gmail have notifications on, since I read somewhere that Android Wear devices would only vibrate if the app was supposed to make some noise. However, I still don't get vibrations.
Thanks in advance
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As far as i got with this (still no Facebook notifications here) this has to do with the sound options, very logical (not) on your phone..
If you have notifications set to just vibrate with no sound on your phone there will be no vibration on your wrist, someone needs to visit that google programmer with a clue bat i think :-/
If you want your watch to be the one to get the notifications and no sound on your phone, set up all apps on your phone to use sounds, and set in Android wear app, silence the phone. This will quit your phone from responding with sounds (an i think also vibrations) while your watch should do the heavy lifting.
Why they did it this way, Google only knows, we desperately need a alternative Android wear build with a much better control of vibrations and how each type of notifications should act!
RoosW said:
As far as i got with this (still no Facebook notifications here) this has to do with the sound options, very logical (not) on your phone..
If you have notifications set to just vibrate with no sound on your phone there will be no vibration on your wrist, someone needs to visit that google programmer with a clue bat i think :-/
If you want your watch to be the one to get the notifications and no sound on your phone, set up all apps on your phone to use sounds, and set in Android wear app, silence the phone. This will quit your phone from responding with sounds (an i think also vibrations) while your watch should do the heavy lifting.
Why they did it this way, Google only knows, we desperately need a alternative Android wear build with a much better control of vibrations and how each type of notifications should act!
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That's not true. I have set my Google+ notifications to no sound but enabled vibrations. The system wide notification strength on my note 3 is set to 0. In this way only my lg g watch r is vibrating on incoming notifications....
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Well. No notifications at all after updating my phone to lollipop 5.1. In Android Wear, the option to turn on notification is greyed out. Upon application startup, I get a message saying: "Android Wear needs you to turn on notifications" but I cannot turn them on. A full hard reset of both, watch and phone, did not help. Downgrade of Android Wear APP to different old versions did not help. My watch is useless now and my Ascend Mate 7 MT10 with Lollipop 5.1 is not downgradable to kitkat any more without unlocking the boot loader which I do not want to do. So, If I would have a Pebble, I think I would stick to it until Lollipop issues are resolved at least you want to keep you devices on KitKat and renounce to update to lollipop.
These are my two cents from a frustrating experience.
just install informer
All problem SoLved
just install "informer for android wear - notification"

[Q] [5.0.1] Mute phone without muting the Watch

Hey guys,
As you may know, on android wear 5.0.1 (the last update), silent/viber mode are synced with the phone : If you put your phone in silent mode, your watch will be in silent mode too.. and if you try to un-mute the watch, the phone will be unmuted too...
That's pretty annoying (I suppose that I'm not the only one to keep watch notifications enabled, with phone set in silent mode ?)
Does anybody has a way to disable this "sync" ?
Thanks
Android wear app has the option
Mute interruptions on phone
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pakure said:
Android wear app has the option
Mute interruptions on phone
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Well, that's not what I am speaking about :/
This option is disabled in my case but, when I mute the phone, the Watch is also muted, and vice versa..
Here's an example of what I'm speaking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BftNG1VRAQ
That's really annoying. I don't have the update yet, but what happens if you put the phone volume all the way down in vibrate mode?
frigidazzi said:
That's really annoying. I don't have the update yet, but what happens if you put the phone volume all the way down in vibrate mode?
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Well, that does nothing on the watch. But that means you can't have a full silent mode on your phone without muting the watch too..
Apparently, this syncing between phone and watch volumes was intended but I don't see the value of it. I think the whole idea of a smartwatch is so that you can mute your phone entirely (no vibration) and still get notifications on your watch. That's how I used my Moto 360 before the Lollipop updates. It's a bug that needs to be addressed.
cybercurator said:
Apparently, this syncing between phone and watch was intended but I don't see the value of it. I think the whole idea of a smartwatch is so that you can mute your phone entirely (no vibration) and still get notifications on your watch. That's how I used my Moto 360 before the Lollipop updates. It's a bug that needs to be addressed.
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Yep, that's exactly my point of view. is there any official bug report/feature request for Android Wear ?
Nevermind, I've posted a request on the bug tracker : https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=82730&thanks=82730&ts=1418672612
This is so frustrating! The entire reason why I found my g watch useful was because I could keep my phone on silent while in class and still be notified from my watch with incoming notifications! I hope Google fixes this! I doubt this is a bug. I think they synchronized the watch and phone for "simplicity."

How is DND supposed to work?

I updated my Moto 360 to AW2.0 yesterday and just like everyone else I realized that Google has changed how DND work and that the watch can have it's own setting separate from the phone.
I'm not here to judge if it's good or bad, that probably depends on how you use your phone and watch.
But... is this really how it's supposed to work?
1. Phone is normal, watch is normal: notifications sounds and vibrates on phone, watch vibrates.
2. Phone is normal, watch is in DND: notifications sounds and vibrates on phone, watch is silent.
3. Phone is in DND, watch is normal: both are silent.
4. Phone is in DND, watch is in DND: both are silent.
I can think of many scenarios where I want the phone to be silent, but the watch to vibrate. I can't really think of any scenarios where I only want my watch to be silent.
I know that I can get the same by making the phone silent through the Android wear app, but that is not an easy way to do it.
You could try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/development/app-disturb-sync-wear-2-0-t3603086
JimSmith94 said:
You could try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/development/app-disturb-sync-wear-2-0-t3603086
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That was not what I was asking about.
Anyone have any ideas? I still have this problem...

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