When my phone is charging it seems to randomly display charging rapidly, charging, or charging slowly. I'm running stock nougat and have tried the original charger and another PD charger with the same results. Is his a known issue or a phone problem?
EhudBenjamin said:
When my phone is charging it seems to randomly display charging rapidly, charging, or charging slowly. I'm running stock nougat and have tried the original charger and another PD charger with the same results. Is his a known issue or a phone problem?
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It's possibly just how they charge.
Lithium ion batteries in phones don't generally charge at just one rate from 0-100%. Around 85-90% they slow down. And the last 5% or so may be the slowest.
That's probably what you see
Assuming you're seeing it switch to charging and then slow charging as it gets closer to 100% this sounds normal.
I thought that at first also, but it does it all the way through the charge.
Mine does this fairly often, and the battery percentage never matters. It happens equally as often at 40% as it does at 70% or anywhere in between. Additionally, mine will sometimes go onto the charger and just be stuck at "Charging slowly" and never change. Nothing's changed on the other end, either - it's plugged into the same port it's always plugged into. I seem to have better luck in getting it to charge rapidly when I plug it in with the display powered off, but that could be a bias I haven't eliminated. I have no actual statistical data to back it up.
I've opened a ticket with Essential Support, but haven't gotten a response beyond them asking a few questions and telling me they'd "look into it" (almost a month ago).
I will say that regardless of what the display actually says, the time it takes to charge fully seems to be fairly consistent (for the battery percentage it's at when I plug it in, obviously). But no, you aren't alone in seeing this behaviour. I'm on Oreo, too, not Nougat.
Mine does the same but still charge's from zero to 100 in expected time around 70/80 minutes,it tends to jump to slowly when nearly full .
Have to say battery life I'm getting is nothing short of astounding for a 3040mha battery
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Thanks for the replies, I'll try timing it and seeing how long it takes.
same here with original wall plug and USB cable. Stock 7.1.1.
After reboot it stays on "Charging rapidly". until another day or so.
Oreo seems to fix it.
btw, seems that when I'm charging in Flight Mode it's always stuck at "Slowly Charging" , looking forward to test this on Oreo.
LieutenantCommanderData said:
btw, seems that when I'm charging in Flight Mode it's always stuck at "Slowly Charging" , looking forward to test this on Oreo.
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can anybody confirm that PH-1 is always stuck in Slowly Charging when in Flight Mode? (and if you are Android N or O). I'm wondering if it's my device or general issue.
btw here Essential support answer on that issue:
With the Essential phone the charging speed fluctuates and there are different factors that come in play, including the percentage of the battery at the time. It is to reduce the heat and to prolong the battery life of the device.
If your device is in airplane mode then all major processes including your cell network and GPS are off, therefore the drain on your battery is reduced that would otherwise need to be made up for by the quick charge.
The device should take about an hour an a half to fully charge, is it taking longer than that to fully charge?
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My device in flight mode doesn't charge full in 1 hour.
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LieutenantCommanderData said:
can anybody confirm that PH-1 is always stuck in Slowly Charging when in Flight Mode? (and if you are Android N or O). I'm wondering if it's my device or general issue.
btw here Essential support answer on that issue:
My device in flight mode doesn't charge full in 1 hour.
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Essential is saying 1.5 hours... that is about what it takes for me.
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So lately I've noticed that battery life is strange on my Vogue with android. When I let it charge overnight, I take it off the charger and it instantly falls to about 97%. At about 1 PM the battery hits around 30% so I plug it in.
Here's the weird part: it's only charged for a half hour and it's reached 80% according to the meter. After another half hour it will say 100%, and stops charging. If I take it off the charger, it will instantly drop to around 77%, and lower quickly. If it says it is not charging anymore, but I know it is not full, is it really not charging? Can I just leave it on and expect it to continue charging to the real capacity?
Is this just how it is? or is there anything to be done about this? I've tried completely discharging the battery a few times, but didn't really help at all that I could tell.
Curious about everyone else's experiences
Thanks!
I think I remember reading somewhere that Android reads the temp of the batt. to figure out what % is left....
Try this.... When your batt. is low, take it out and blow on the connectors for a few minutes... See if your % rises.
cbaty08 said:
I think I remember reading somewhere that Android reads the temp of the batt. to figure out what % is left....
Try this.... When your batt. is low, take it out and blow on the connectors for a few minutes... See if your % rises.
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Trying this now... lol
Would I have to do this every time I want to get a full charge? seems strange. Maybe this woudl explain why it charges overnight - longer period of time the battery can cool down, charge up more, cool down, charge
how long should the vogue legitimately take to charge? Seems as tho mine does well within an hour...
berardi said:
how long should the vogue legitimately take to charge? Seems as tho mine does well within an hour...
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3 hours usually.
gigermunit said:
3 hours usually.
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Perhaps my battery has just lost it's capacity - it is around 2 years old
Here's what I posted about battery issues in the thread for my Kaiser build:
Battery issues are due to the driver. It was written months ago and AFAIK hasn't been looked at since... I know it has some bugs, here are the ones I am used to:
Intermittent charging
stopping at certain percentages (like ~70%) and refusing to charge
when refusing to charge also does not detect when plugged into USB/ADB
won't fully charge
reports different battery percentage than WM
sometimes jumps instantly from ~30% to ~4%
reports connected to computer when only connected to wall charger
repeated USB-connected notifications
battery becomes hotter during charging than on WM
I should add also that sometimes when the battery dies in Android it won't charge in WM until I boot the phone in WM and unplug and replug the charger.
If I want a proper charge, I just boot WM and wait ~2 hours. Much simpler than Android.
berardi said:
Perhaps my battery has just lost it's capacity - it is around 2 years old
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well it could be that the age, my phone of 2 years got replaced after the power button snapped off, got another which i lost which got replaced by my most recent.
polyrhythmic said:
Here's what I posted about battery issues in the thread for my Kaiser build:
Battery issues are due to the driver. It was written months ago and AFAIK hasn't been looked at since... I know it has some bugs, here are the ones I am used to:
Intermittent charging
stopping at certain percentages (like ~70%) and refusing to charge
when refusing to charge also does not detect when plugged into USB/ADB
won't fully charge
reports different battery percentage than WM
sometimes jumps instantly from ~30% to ~4%
reports connected to computer when only connected to wall charger
repeated USB-connected notifications
battery becomes hotter during charging than on WM
I should add also that sometimes when the battery dies in Android it won't charge in WM until I boot the phone in WM and unplug and replug the charger.
If I want a proper charge, I just boot WM and wait ~2 hours. Much simpler than Android.
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Gah, that's too bad.
When I charge overnight, I don't have problems. It's in the middle of the day when it isn't on the charger for too long that I have issues.
Thanks for confirming the weirdness though, at least I won't bother with a new battery (yet)
There seems to be a bug, where if i leave the phone connected overnight on the stock charger and wifi is off when i wake up the battery is at 80% or less. My theory is that as soon as it reaches 100% it stops charging, has anyone experienced this?
Here is a screenshot of battery settings
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Isn't this why SBC kernels came to be popular
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Now don't say its another bug
imoumni said:
There seems to be a bug, where if i leave the phone connected overnight on the stock charger and wifi is off when i wake up the battery is at 80% or less. My theory is that as soon as it reaches 100% it stops charging, has anyone experienced this?
Here is a screenshot of battery settings
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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Same issue happened to me. It only happened once though. Does this happen all the time for you?
aznsmith said:
Same issue happened to me. It only happened once though. Does this happen all the time for you?
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happened twice so far.
Is this expected behavior?
imoumni said:
happened twice so far.
Is this expected behavior?
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This is happening to me as well; I've come to believe it's a faulty charger, actually. Or a charger designed that way. But the charger's fault regardless.
First occasionally, but now for a few nights in a row, I've found a phone plugged in overnight to be at 80% battery in the morning. When I look at the battery graph, it appears to have charged rapidly to 100% (or close-to), then started slowly discharging. However, with the battery use screen open, I also noticed that the status was rapidly changing between "Charging (AC)" and "Not charging", spending most of the time in the not charging state, despite a constant plugged-in icon in the notification area. This behavior persists regardless of wifi state and through many reboots; BUT, it hasn't happened at all yet (with just limited testing) when plugging it in through the adapter for my last phone (an HTC), nor does it happen when charging via USB. I don't know if the LG charger could be designed that way, where it stops when it's full, or if it's just a faulty unit that needs replacing. I'm going to try it on the HTC wall unit overnight tonight to see what happens.
chinly43 said:
This is happening to me as well; I've come to believe it's a faulty charger, actually. Or a charger designed that way. But the charger's fault regardless.
First occasionally, but now for a few nights in a row, I've found a phone plugged in overnight to be at 80% battery in the morning. When I look at the battery graph, it appears to have charged rapidly to 100% (or close-to), then started slowly discharging. However, with the battery use screen open, I also noticed that the status was rapidly changing between "Charging (AC)" and "Not charging", spending most of the time in the not charging state, despite a constant plugged-in icon in the notification area. This behavior persists regardless of wifi state and through many reboots; BUT, it hasn't happened at all yet (with just limited testing) when plugging it in through the adapter for my last phone (an HTC), nor does it happen when charging via USB. I don't know if the LG charger could be designed that way, where it stops when it's full, or if it's just a faulty unit that needs replacing. I'm going to try it on the HTC wall unit overnight tonight to see what happens.
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I'm actually having a similar problem... For me I noticed that the screen stays on while the battery is discharging while on AC charging mode so it may be a different issue. It doesn't always happen but when it does, I'll be sitting around 75% when I wake up in the morning.
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Just checking in - a few days later, it hasn't happened yet using the HTC charger.
tofuboi88 said:
I'm actually having a similar problem... For me I noticed that the screen stays on while the battery is discharging while on AC charging mode so it may be a different issue. It doesn't always happen but when it does, I'll be sitting around 75% when I wake up in the morning.
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Turns out this is caused by using a USB extension cable... it would say the phone is charging on AC but there would not be enough current going through. When I plugged the the stock usb cable in to the charger directly, it charged fine.
Hello, it has been happening to me for last 2 days that when I put the phone on charger, the battery sometimes charges at an extremely slow rate (14% to 23% in 1.5 hrs), and sometimes it even discharges while the charger is connected. I am attaching the battery screen here.
You can see that first it goes down from 100 during morning to evening. This is normal behavior owing to my usage. Then I charged it and up goes the curve with a high angle because I use a good charger. This is also fine. Then I disconnect and heavily use the phone again and then put the phone on charger overnight. This is where the problem starts!
Now you see, first of all the battery starts going up then it suddenly starts dropping while still on charger. I woke up to find 23% battery after charging overnight. I noticed in the screenshot that my phone was constantly waking up all night long, may be this could have been the problem. So I connected it to charger again to see the battery level rising in front of my eyes. But again, after 3 hours I found that my battery is 51% and the curve has started to fall down again, and this time there were not enough wakeups.wakelocks.
I am using a powerful charger. It is made in china but it charges all the phones in my home perfectly. I also tried on another charger (also probably china) with the same results on my phone only.
I am using the stock rom, unrooted (can't root version 182.*.*.*)
Do you have thinks running in the background while you charge? Mines charges a lot faster if I turn off internet, kill background apps.
Also is it overheating while chsrgeing? You get a better charge if the phone stays cool
And third your phone might think the charger is a computer. I say this because mines charges really sloe when I connect it to a computer, like 12% per hour. Try a third charger, diffrent brand and wattage compared to the ones yoive tried. it might help.
yes there are background apps but there hasn't been a change which triggered this. the background have worked fine before.
no overheating issue. in fact, this device always feels cooler.
I've always used this charger, my whole family uses it without any issue but now the problem just started happening to me. and even with me the problem is not constant. I just charged up to 50% without any problem. there is one thing left to try. that is, I should try to restart in safe mode and try charging in that mode. if that works fine then it's definitely an app, otherwise the issue may be bigger.
So as the title indicates, for whatever reason the nexus 4 is discharging after reaching 100% on the wireless charger. Now, this would be fine if it continued charging after it drains to a certain battery percent, but sadly that is not the case. When I take my Nexus 4 off of my wireless charger in the morning, I see that it has been 'on battery' for 7+ hours, and the battery is usually between 70-80% which isn't enough for me.
If it helps, here is some information that may be useful:
-My nexus 4 is rooted on 4.2.1
-My wireless charger is called "MoKo Qi Wireless Charger 3-Coil Charging Pad"
-I've tried restarting my phone, but the issue persists
-The wireless charger works at full speed with no issue (apart from the charger turning off when the phone is at 100%, and only removing and putting the phone back on it will turn it on)
Now, I've seen some threads where people say their phone isn't at 100% when they take their phone off, but they mentioned that their phone starts charging when it discharges to a certain percent (say, 95% or something) but sadly mine does not.
Any help is appreciated, thanks in Advance!
-Neutrino
Edit: If it helps with anything, the charger makes a faint 'ticking' sound every half a second ONLY when the phone has reached 100% and continues ticking until I remove the phone. The ticking sound persists even while the phone is draining overnight on the charger. I have also tried to test if letting the phone reach 100% then draining the battery while it is on the charger by leaving the screen on changes anything, but it seems it doesn't matter whether the phone is 'awake' or not.
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I don't understand the problem. Are you reporting fast discharging of your phone after 100% has been reached? Or you are reporting that it doesn't start to charge again when the phone drops from 100% to 95% or whatever?
In the second case I suppose that your Charger works in this way, and nothing can be done.
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I don't understand the problem. Are you reporting fast discharging of your phone after 100% has been reached? Or you are reporting that it doesn't start to charge again when the phone drops from 100% to 95% or whatever?
In the second case I suppose that your Charger works in this way, and nothing can be done.
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It would be the latter, the phone doesn't start to charge again when the phone drops from 100% to like 80-90% overnight. And something CAN (and HAS) been done, I hooked it up to a $10 Woods Model 50001 Indoor 24 hour mechanical timer, and made it turn on/off every 30 minutes during the night/morning. It works perfectly now, my phone is always at 99-100% when I wake up since it doesn't idle for 7+ hours, maximum it ever idles is 30min.
I was just wondering if it was an issue with all chargers, or is it just an issue with my phone... I'll test it with my brother's nexus 5 some time and see if it still happens (without the mechanical timer).
I have a 11th Gen 32GB FIre HD10. I use the tablet daily. Yesterday, I noticed that it is not charging. The charge symbol (lightning bolt battery) is still seen but the charge just isn't going up. I charged it for hours and it is still at 64%. I tried switch power supply and USB-C cable. At one point, it went to 65% but stopped. If I use it without plugging in, the battery will go down. And it will not go back up again through charge. Tried reboot. Power cycle. No difference. I have Fire Toolbox installed so the firmware isn't auto updating (since November 2021).
I am at lost right now. Is there a way to fix it without factory reset?
May be a battery failure, a port pcb failure is the next most likely cause.
A factory reset will likely just waste your time.
If the battery capacity has been declining and especially if it decreased a lot in the last month or two, it's almost certainly a battery failure.
Any swelling is a failure, if so replace immediately.
The tablet can tell it is charging and battery indicator appears to indicate the activity (by decreasing). It just seems that the charging circuit is faulty. But then, I have not come across any similar behavior through search.
nookin said:
The tablet can tell it is charging and battery indicator appears to indicate the activity (by decreasing). It just seems that the charging circuit is faulty. But then, I have not come across any similar behavior through search.
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Do not charge with the screen on as it will skew the charge curve.
It may be the power controller circuit but more than likely it's either the cable, the charger, the battery or the port pcb if it has one.
blackhawk said:
Do not charge with the screen on as it will skew the charge curve.
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Unfortunately, that is the only way that I can use the tablet now. I fear that once battery dropped too low (e.g. 5% or less), it will refuse to boot and I will not be able to use the tablet even if I have it plugged in because the battery % will not go up.
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Unfortunately, that is the only way that I can use the tablet now. I fear that once battery dropped too low (e.g. 5% or less), it will refuse to boot and I will not be able to use the tablet even if I have it plugged in because the battery % will not go up.
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Back it up now if it isn't...
back it up and replace.
I can think of something to try.
I have one old HP TouchPad that I have to charge this way.
First off, make sure you have a known good USB-C cable. I had one that was not uni-directional, I would only work when inserted one way. I'd try connecting it to a PC with the cable and see if it is connected. It might even give you the warning that it is connected to a low power charger...
Scrounge up a couple of lower power charging bricks, say around 2w or less, and power OFF the tablet,
Connect up the tablet and see what happens.
On my one TouchPad I have to use a low power wall wart to get it to charge. It won't even charge on the wireless cradle.
It will also charge off a PC at times.
Good Luck!
My problem went away awhile after a period of not charging. But the charging problem returned. I think the battery is charging but for some reasons, it is not reflecting it in percentage. On the other hand, the percentage is falling while it is in use.
The thing about the Fire Tablet is that there appears to be no way to charge it with tablet powered off. As soon as it is plugged it, it will power on.
6 weeks passed. I still have the same issue. Basically, the battery indicator is incorrect.
My Fire HD10 is still being charged and appears to hold a charge even for long period of use. But often times, the battery percentage will stop well before 100%. The exact number where it stopped increasing changes from time to time. It could be 41% today and it could be 33% tomorrow.
I have tried using it til it shut off. I recall that I can charge it back to 100% but the issue will return.
I need to make a tough choice. I am still on pre-7.3.2.2 firmware with Fire Toolbox. If I send the tablet back for "repair", I will most likely get back a refurbished one running 7.3.2.2+. But I also want my battery issue resolved.
nookin said:
6 weeks passed. I still have the same issue. Basically, the battery indicator is incorrect.
My Fire HD10 is still being charged and appears to hold a charge even for long period of use. But often times, the battery percentage will stop well before 100%. The exact number where it stopped increasing changes from time to time. It could be 41% today and it could be 33% tomorrow.
I have tried using it til it shut off. I recall that I can charge it back to 100% but the issue will return.
I need to make a tough choice. I am still on pre-7.3.2.2 firmware with Fire Toolbox. If I send the tablet back for "repair", I will most likely get back a refurbished one running 7.3.2.2+. But I also want my battery issue resolved.
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A sensor on the mobo may have failed.
Observe what the battery voltages are with the shown battery percentage.
If the voltages don't match the percentage then it may not be hardware...
On an Li the voltage between fully discharged and fully charge aren't that much, around 1 volt or so like on a Samsung 4.25 volt battery.
I had the same problem with my 2021 Fire 10 tablet. I eventually realized it was not charging while connected to 5GHz WIFI. If I turn WIFI off or connect using the 2.4GHz band, it starts charging again. The 5GHz connection had become unmetered for some reason. Deleting the connection and making a new one as metered solved the problem, temporarily. Not sure how it is getting changed to unmetered. Really annoying bug.