Hi guys.
I earlier posted an interview with Honor CEO George Zhao that the Honor 8 was confirmed to be recieveing the 8.0 Oreo update.
But since then, the Honor 8 has been removed from the devices which Zhao listed who are being updated.
What are your guys thoughts?
joelyons01 said:
Hi guys.
I earlier posted an interview with Honor CEO George Zhao that the Honor 8 was confirmed to be recieveing the 8.0 Oreo update.
But since then, the Honor 8 has been removed from the devices which Zhao listed who are being updated.
What are your guys thoughts?
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It could mean that even he isn't sure which models are actively testing Oreo or they haven't even started testing it. Until it's put through some type of early tests, they can't release any info.
Haha let's start speculation again.
You right.
I am assuming that he is very well aware of what's the Honor plan in near future. On the other hand it might be later found inconvenient for Huawei to let spread the official statement about last year Honor flagships -
Honor 8 and 8 Pro - are about to receive Oreo which might have significant impact on both Huawei and Honor new models sales (like still mentioned Honor 9 and V9). I think they will release official statement (now they surely have to) after Christmas, probably January 2018, about releasing Oreo for those phones in Q1 of 2018. Who knows Honor would then expect the release of OTA about April to May of 2018 practically.
While there is still a small chance that Huawei could even stop the release of the update if they are afraid of new models sales., I don't think they will play that card for good reason - credibility in the eyes of potential customers.
Where is that list, and where did you got this from?
Snowjack said:
I am assuming that he is very well aware of what's the Honor plan in near future. On the other hand it might be later found inconvenient for Huawei to let spread the official statement about last year Honor flagships -
Honor 8 and 8 Pro - are about to receive Oreo which might have significant impact on both Huawei and Honor new models sales (like still mentioned Honor 9 and V9). I think they will release official statement (now they surely have to) after Christmas, probably January 2018, about releasing Oreo for those phones in Q1 of 2018. Who knows Honor would then expect the release of OTA about April to May of 2018 practically.
While there is still a small chance that Huawei could even stop the release of the update if they are afraid of new models sales., I don't think they will play that card for good reason - credibility in the eyes of potential customers.
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I think that's an excellent argument, it's very possible that their reasoning is a new OS on an older phone will affect sales of a new phone. Wait a few months after the release of your new phone and then push out Oreo to the older phone. The marketing people may be in charge of this theory.
Snowjack said:
I am assuming that he is very well aware of what's the Honor plan in near future. On the other hand it might be later found inconvenient for Huawei to let spread the official statement about last year Honor flagships -
Honor 8 and 8 Pro - are about to receive Oreo which might have significant impact on both Huawei and Honor new models sales (like still mentioned Honor 9 and V9). I think they will release official statement (now they surely have to) after Christmas, probably January 2018, about releasing Oreo for those phones in Q1 of 2018. Who knows Honor would then expect the release of OTA about April to May of 2018 practically.
While there is still a small chance that Huawei could even stop the release of the update if they are afraid of new models sales., I don't think they will play that card for good reason - credibility in the eyes of potential customers.
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Great post! Finally someone using logic rather than just getting butthurt and saying I'm never buying a Huawei and I'm going to sell this ****.
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Not a good sign, that's what I think of
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Rommco05 said:
Honor 8 is popular model which have many people, I think Huawei must make reputation with upgrade to Oreo. In future we can now Huawei will make 2 upgrades and this is good reason for buy this phones and new models
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I agree!
I hope they end up releasing an update for Honor 8. It's a great phone and still has lots of power!
This phone is dead.. no updates, no security patches, 3 year old moto g3 get oreo custom rom , security patches, this phone not even a single update since september... no custom roms as well.. I am blaming brand not the developers...
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This phone is dead.. no updates, no security patches, 3 year old moto g3 get oreo custom rom , security patches, this phone not even a single update since september... no custom roms as well.. I am blaming brand not the developers...
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B398 OTA for L09C432 was pushed recently, and
some Croatian users reported B399 started to appear.
B398 includes November security patch.
B399 includes December security patch.
A new one, B401 just appeared on Firmware Finder, I suppose, according to the size, that it is nougat with January security patch.
So, even if I wish there were monthly updates for security, we have security updates.
pix106 said:
B398 OTA for L09C432 was pushed recently, and
some Croatian users reported B399 started to appear.
B398 includes November security patch.
B399 includes December security patch.
A new one, B401 just appeared on Firmware Finder, I suppose, according to the size, that it is nougat with January security patch.
So, even if I wish there were monthly updates for security, we have security updates.
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Great.. then it seems like honor is ignoring Indian model... This will be my last Honor phone..
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Great.. then it seems like honor is ignoring Indian model... This will be my last Honor phone..
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They do it all the time, after this the FRD-L09 models won't see updates for a while and all the other models will recieve updates. They did this before and I'm pretty sure they'll do it again. I just don't get why Honor doesn't have one universal model number for all regions like OnePlus or Google.
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ayush rao said:
They do it all the time, after this the FRD-L09 models won't see updates for a while and all the other models will recieve updates. They did this before and I'm pretty sure they'll do it again. I just don't get why Honor doesn't have one universal model number for all regions like OnePlus or Google.
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this is why you stop supporting them. i have im just waiting to see what the new Sony phones look like but im just itching to buy a oneplus 5t. i bought 3 1+5s for my family but due to the front facing fingerprint reader i passed.
the 5t seems great aside from the lack of expandable storage so i hope the new Sony phones look good.
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this is why you stop supporting them. i have im just waiting to see what the new Sony phones look like but im just itching to buy a oneplus 5t. i bought 3 1+5s for my family but due to the front facing fingerprint reader i passed.
the 5t seems great aside from the lack of expandable storage so i hope the new Sony phones look good.
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Yeah.. even i am thinking about it.. even if there is no stock updates atleast we get custom roms support on sony and one plus phones..
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this is why you stop supporting them. i have im just waiting to see what the new Sony phones look like but im just itching to buy a oneplus 5t. i bought 3 1+5s for my family but due to the front facing fingerprint reader i passed.
the 5t seems great aside from the lack of expandable storage so i hope the new Sony phones look good.
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The reason I really like this phone is cause I got it on Black Friday last year with a bunch of accessories. The price I got it for was alot lesser than OnePlus at that time and honestly for me the current build is pretty stable for my usage (Teen with bunch of social media, YouTube and games).
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Yeah.. even i am thinking about it.. even if there is no stock updates atleast we get custom roms support on sony and one plus phones..
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sony is great on software in fact its the best due to its large adds a large amount of code to aosp. they use vanilla ui with optimization and if they use a skin its easy to remove thanks to rro.
all oems should follow sony's ui methods. no one likes themes that are hard coded, they just suck! what im hoping is that google bakes security updates into treble so that they can be downloaded through the playstore in the future.
About two weeks ago I sent an Email to the honor support. I asked them about their once made promise to update the honor 8 for at least two years after the release. The answer was that the two years support would only include security updates. They wouldnt give any comment on oreo. I would guess it is rather unlikely that we will get an update to oreo for our device.
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Was wondering if Huawei has announced that they will upgrade Honor 7 to marshmallow. I have never used any Huawei device and am interested in Honor 7 so want to know how is Huawei in terms of SW upgrades etc. Does anyone in here has any experience of previous Huawei devices. I am really keen to know this as ROM development and SW upgrades are probably the most important aspects of a device's future.
Yes all Huawei flagships will get updated, while non flaships will get at lesser priority as well..
But they won't release as quick.. Rather depending on stability of the new android itself the update will delay and they will release it timed with release of their next flagship. So somewhere from January 2016 to May 2016.. That said, since Huawei is manufacturing this year's nexus things might be different.
As Warea said, we'll have the update.
I think google is going to surprise us with this new Android version, doing a global release for a lot of devices on Day 1.
Rumor says that Samsung has already the update ready for S6/S6Edge/Note4, .... And LG too. It's possible that this year, Google worked with manufacturers to make a global release for Android M because one of the things that Apple users are proud of is that every iOS device is updated at the same time with the same version. I think Google wants to fix that with Android.
We'll see !
is possible, but i doubt it, because on every android version, huawei must include emui new version, and they're veeeery slow making updates . honor 6 waiting lollipop yet in european version, and android m launches at end of this month...
no news yet on android 6, but the chinese editions of honor 7 are getting android 5.1 beta tests. http://cn.club.vmall.com/thread-4989272-1-1.html
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Huawei updates really fast. They should release emui 4.0 marshmallow for honor 7 earliest by 2017 or maybe 2018 around the time they release the lollipop source code for honor 6.
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If you look at last year most of phone brands were quick to announce upgrades to lollipop but they delivered only 2nd quarter of this year, while the few who updated quick were left with lollipop bugs.
I'm in no hurry to android 6 because many of the features are already on emui.. So I rather prefer a properly optimized and bug free update, plus significant changes on emui enough to make it feel like an update.
Honor 6
Let's look at the good, the bad and the horrible worst..
The GOOD -
good built up design and hardware
At good price...
Awesome high end specs
Smooth working never lags
Charges superfast..
It's been a year to own a huawei honor 6 and it's still the same as newly purchased.. Quite happy with the product and fully satisfied And I'm upgrading to honor seven.. Just go for it. N its the best available in the market at this stage
The BAD-
-NO SOFTWARE UPDATES needs some improvements in software but no updates provided in India secondly no OTA updates you need to stress yourself to know how exactly to download and install softwares.
-Delayed updates... We hear Google talking about Marshmallow where as lollipop is on the verge and honor devices still running on kitkat.. Yes, lollipop updates were provided to download and install but manually and bro it's time for marshmallow and we here were dying to receive lollipop (stable) yet..
-Indian versions are not provided with the features available to Chinese versions.. Not 64gb storage available no dual Sim available
-Cloud storage available only in China
For honor 7 I guess marshmallow would be available in next year Q1
The horrible WORST -
It's not at all a loyal brand
I can purely tag Huawei as "use and throw" device because,
-WORST customer service support
If anything happens to the device after purchasing it... You just need to dump it in the garbage bin (service centre) without having a hope of recycle and getting it back so just forget the past and look for a new one..
So if you wanna avoid such circumstances you got to handle with care
Else it works great smooth efficient.. User friendly... Great specs and awesome built..
So if you are a person frequently updating your handset go for it.. But if you are a long term user suggest you to go for some good branded devices..
Just my opinion.. And no offence meant.. Sorryyyy
My newsfeed showed me following page.
http://www.themobileindian.com/news...et-Android-6.0-Marshmallow-Update-in-Jan-2016
don´t know how credible this is and whether it also affects the other H7 versions.
Devu21 said:
Honor 6
Let's look at the good, the bad and the horrible worst..
The GOOD -
good built up design and hardware
At good price...
Awesome high end specs
Smooth working never lags
Charges superfast..
It's been a year to own a huawei honor 6 and it's still the same as newly purchased.. Quite happy with the product and fully satisfied And I'm upgrading to honor seven.. Just go for it. N its the best available in the market at this stage
The BAD-
-NO SOFTWARE UPDATES needs some improvements in software but no updates provided in India secondly no OTA updates you need to stress yourself to know how exactly to download and install softwares.
-Delayed updates... We hear Google talking about Marshmallow where as lollipop is on the verge and honor devices still running on kitkat.. Yes, lollipop updates were provided to download and install but manually and bro it's time for marshmallow and we here were dying to receive lollipop (stable) yet..
-Indian versions are not provided with the features available to Chinese versions.. Not 64gb storage available no dual Sim available
-Cloud storage available only in China
For honor 7 I guess marshmallow would be available in next year Q1
The horrible WORST -
It's not at all a loyal brand
I can purely tag Huawei as "use and throw" device because,
-WORST customer service support
If anything happens to the device after purchasing it... You just need to dump it in the garbage bin (service centre) without having a hope of recycle and getting it back so just forget the past and look for a new one..
So if you wanna avoid such circumstances you got to handle with care
Else it works great smooth efficient.. User friendly... Great specs and awesome built..
So if you are a person frequently updating your handset go for it.. But if you are a long term user suggest you to go for some good branded devices..
Just my opinion.. And no offence meant.. Sorryyyy
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Honor 6.....no updates? You mean apart from all the updates it has received to go from 4.4 to 5.1.1
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mgolder said:
Honor 6.....no updates? You mean apart from all the updates it has received to go from 4.4 to 5.1.1
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No.... I received one update that was for emui 3.0 that's all and I hear lots of people updating their firmware but they do that manually.. And not OTA update so I get stuck as I didn't know how to do such updates manually..
But honor 7.. Marshmallow beta would be available from Jan I suppose..
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Kamran9558 said:
Was wondering if Huawei has announced that they will upgrade Honor 7 to marshmallow. I have never used any Huawei device and am interested in Honor 7 so want to know how is Huawei in terms of SW upgrades etc. Does anyone in here has any experience of previous Huawei devices. I am really keen to know this as ROM development and SW upgrades are probably the most important aspects of a device's future.
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What I feel is.. It's pointless in waiting for M update because it's skin emui 3.0 takes it all over the material design and I feel emui is awesome if they keep updating emui..
The lollipop update in honor 6 didn't have much change as the design would remain emui..
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No.... I received one update that was for emui 3.0 that's all and I hear lots of people updating their firmware but they do that manually.. And not OTA update so I get stuck as I didn't know how to do such updates manually..
But honor 7.. Marshmallow beta would be available from Jan I suppose..
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What I feel is.. It's pointless in waiting for M update because it's skin emui 3.0 takes it all over the material design and I feel emui is awesome if they keep updating emui..
The lollipop update in honor 6 didn't have much change as the design would remain emui..
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Except the ota for the honor 6 & 6+ went out already. So again, saying it had no updates is nonsense.
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mgolder said:
Except the ota for the honor 6 & 6+ went out already. So again, saying it had no updates is nonsense.
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Sorry sir It may be nonsense for people having technical knowledge
And I'm sorry but I forgot to mention earlier that all the firmware updates were never officially by Huawei for "h60 L04" model (Indian variant) if you check out the official website of honor India there are no updates but when you check updates for Chinese model then you will find many software updates on their official site for honor 6 but none of them would end with model "h60 L04"
So on that part I told that there are no updates
Honor confirmed on twitter that the Honor 7 will be updated to 6.0 in Q1 2016.
Date not confirmed for the 6+.
Announcement Android 6.0:
http://emui.huawei.com/cn/portal.php?mod=view&aid=55
waliej said:
Announcement Android 6.0:
http://emui.huawei.com/cn/portal.php?mod=view&aid=55
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looks like PLK-L01 is not on the list....
simo6 said:
looks like PLK-L01 is not on the list....
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PLK-XX is Honor 7 where XX stands for different regional versions. It's the same with P8, the EU version (L01) is not on the list, probably because this list is not intended for European readers!
Marshmallow Will arrive in january 2016.
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Honor 7 to get Marshmallow beta in a matter of weeks => http://www.androidcentral.com/honor-7-get-marshmallow-beta-matter-weeks
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Honor 7 to get Marshmallow beta in a matter of weeks => http://www.androidcentral.com/honor-7-get-marshmallow-beta-matter-weeks
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Yep, I was at the same event. Beta test coming within the next month and is likely to be run through local forums so Honor can obtain feedback.
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Yep, I was at the same event. Beta test coming within the next month and is likely to be run through local forums so Honor can obtain feedback.
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I've put my name down (via Honor's PR agency), and once you give your IMEI you'll be sent an OTA update automatically once it's ready. I'll let you all know the progress, but believe there will be a requirement NOT to share the code with others so please don't ask me to extract the files and release the ROM.
Of course, I'm sure someone will...
The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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I totally agree with you. It would be especially a shame because Honor promised a 2 year Update guarantee.
I don't think we can do anything about this situation the only answer we would get would be a "We are always trying our best" and so on.
Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.
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Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.
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Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.
not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.
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They will come...Just to don't make us too disappointed, I think.....And to reach the 2 years of support
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not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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I Agree, could be a way...
...In all this, i think that is more bad luck with the last Nougat API not supported than any laziness or few interess in the developing...
But I agree another time that if Huawei/Honor want to fight with the top brands, they have to start to better follow their devices, or at least to have a clear policy on releasing update; without confusion or heavy bugs over major release.
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not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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People buying Huawei are the ones not learning LOL
But the problem AFAIK is that Honor 7 soc won't support Vulcan, which is required to get a official nougat build from a manufactorer accepted by google.
I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.
android N is nothing diff to android 6
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I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Which country did u buy your phone from?
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Which country did u buy your phone from?
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From China, it is UL00 C17 variant.
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I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Good to know, if the China model had the upgrade usually the EU model will have it in acceptable timing.....
BigMango said:
If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.
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I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...
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I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...
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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.
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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.
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it sure is impossible to foresee for how long a smartphone will be supported, but huawei has given us plenty of reasons in the last years to at least doubt their policy.
p6, p7 were a real shame, especially being the latter a bit pricey for a huawei; p8, mateS and h7 are the latest victims. and these are just the ones I personally know about. only h6 has had a fairly good support, especially for the price.
now I'm not saying samsung is perfect, they are far from it... (and I don't want to take into account tablets because it's true, android pretty much sucks when it comes to tablets and updates... :/ ) but since you came up with the s3 model, well that was a very hardware limited model... one of the last pre-JB models, with 1gb of ram only... especially with KK all the 1gb models became obsolete... but if you take the lg g1 that was commercialised only 4-5 months later with 2gb, it lived long enough to be updated from ICS to JB and finally to KK.
LG G2-G3-G4 are all receiving small updates from time to time, even if they are mainly only security fixes, but honestly it's the same thing happening with iphones, old models don't get the new features, just small fixes.
same with S4-S5-S6; not sure about M7, but I can guarantee for M8 and M9. Xiaomi still updates a lot of models from 2012-2013.
final words: among the big ballers, there's just one brand that keeps fooling its customers, and that's huawei/honor.
h7/p8/mateS are all 2015 devices... 2015... and h7's support has been dead for 7 months already... it's a shame!
Honor 7 will never updated to android 7.0, mb will coming some minor updates from vendors, mb..Last hope is only developers) imho
yes, they have abandoned us. From now never buy honor product.
xinnn said:
The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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Honor/Huawei
I had HTC phones in the past, then LG G2 and then changed to H7. I was very satisfied with it, because of smooth running, but when they announced that it wont get new update to nougat I was very dissappointed. Because it was clear then that there will be no updates, at least not any big updates. Its not old phone with good HW. And because of that I decided for iphone. No complaint till now, I have it for 6 months.
Answer AFAIK is nope, since Huawei/Honor only deliver one major update, and they did it "recently" (2016-09 according to their site) on Western Europe (PLK-L01) (probably the last wave who recieved it) with Android Marshmallow. But, the 5 and 6X recieved it.
The Honor 8 has been out for about 10 months now and can now be purchased for $299 from the Honor website. So let's see how this phone holds up and if it's still worth the money.
Updates
The Honor 8 was early to the Nougat scene and has been updated regularly. The stock firmware is currently on Android 7.0 with EMUI 5.0. This has the Honor 8 easily keeping up with its competitors when it comes to updates.
Development
There are several regularly updated ROMs for the Honor 8 that will bring you up to Android 7.1.2. This phone can be rooted with SuperSU while running nougat, and the bootloader can be unlocked easily. So as far as development goes, the community has not let us down.
Specs
Seeing as how the Honor 8 is now a $300 phone, the specs hold up just fine and sometimes easily surpass other phones in this price range. The 4GB of RAM is what most flagship phones are launching with today. The 1080p screen is still plenty usable with no complaints from me. The camera has aged well, still being a lot of fun to use with all of the camera modes on this device. The Hisilicon Kirin 950 processor keeps this phone running plenty fast.
Durability
Who else cracked the back of their phone? Other than that, it's still in once piece. Parts are easy to find on ebay and they're very cheap. This is something that I usually look at when buying a new phone.
Accessories
There were never really a great selection of cases to choose from for the Honor 8. Seems there's still a very slim selection or low quality cases for this device.
Overall this phone holds up nicely. I'd say if it were $400 it would be too expensive. $299 seems like a really fair price for this phone to be going at right now. You can usually find it even lower than that on some other websites.
Just give us EMUI 5 KERNEL source code and we'll be happy customers
I'm afraid you'll find many that would argue that development has NOT been great with this device. Still a great phone though...
How much did Honor pay you for this post?
Look at all the threads saying "Huge battery drain after upgrading to EMUI 5." And you'll know where Huawei screw up.
@morpheus302 +1
everyone complain about bad battery life after upgrading to A7. Update policy I call it joke, there are a lot of users who still doesn't still received update to A7.
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How much did Honor pay you for this post?
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At the risk of piling on to an innocent person, I too thought the OP looked like a press release from Huawei. Interestingly enough, I made a similar post about how the Honor 8 needs a better reputation just a few hours earlier in this same forum. So maybe I'm getting what I asked for? :victory:
Imho the Honor 8 is not a bad phone hardware wise, It's just seems like they spend more on PR than actual development and updates. His statement about updates is laughable at best.
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everyone complain about bad battery life after upgrading to A7. Update policy I call it joke, there are a lot of users who still doesn't still received update to A7.
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You and others said for my posts that its spam
Well my friend
How often are you going to say the same in so many different threads
"Many users did not get update to noughat 7"
LoOoL
I said couse of some of you not to post again but this is just funny how often you said it
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And then? Don't we need the Kirin Sources aswell for drivers and stuff?
No update to Android O for Honor 8 according to this: https://www.google.bg/amp/s/theleaker.com/android-o-8-0-update-smartphones-list/amp/
If this is true, i am pretty sure that Huawei are idiots!
See the link correctly https://theleaker.com/android-o-8-0-update-smartphones-list You will find out in comments that they have only included the devices which will get the update for sure, I also don't think that Honor 8 will get the update. But don;t know maybe they will seed an update.
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No update to Android O for Honor 8 according to this: https://www.google.bg/amp/s/theleaker.com/android-o-8-0-update-smartphones-list/amp/
If this is true, i am pretty sure that Huawei are idiots!
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That's someone's opinion but I doubt it's Huawei's official opinion. I'll wait till they announce their intentions.
That will blow if the honor 8 doesn't get Android O. I got another one on sale and have high hopes for this device
Okay, I broke the back glass. Paid $40 to get it repaired.
About the software updates, the US version is doing poorly. Security patches are not delivered monthly. We stayed at a very early patch for a very long time. About the O update, this device should get it. They should at least provide two major Android updates. One was Nougat and the next has to be O.
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Okay, I broke the back glass. Paid $40 to get it repaired.
About the software updates, the US version is doing poorly. Security patches are not delivered monthly. We stayed at a very early patch for a very long time. About the O update, this device should get it. They should at least provide two major Android updates. One was Nougat and the next has to be O.
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Only this community of phone nerds cares about monthly security patches. There isn't a company outside of Google that can realistically maintain that level of software support for their entire device portfolio. 2 major OS updates is the most we should realistically expect from Honor or any company. Anything else on top of that is just icing on the cake.
My girlfriend's Huwei P8 receives security patches every two months at least, one just received some days ago with July security patches. So i don't understand why we are not getting them...however, i agree with PuffDaddy_d. I would prefer to have Android O instead monthly security updates
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How I told before p8lite 2 days a go receive July security patches
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P8 have Nougat?
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I'm pretty sure you know it haven't it. Don't have to be ironic, just understand what i mean to say. Having Nougat doean't mean delay in security patch updatea, but if you're ok with this, perfect. However i told i don't care about them too much.
does anybody regret getting the honor 8? i'm debating between it and the pixel (for 2x the price).
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does anybody regret getting the honor 8? i'm debating between it and the pixel (for 2x the price).
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OP5 is currently the sweet spot.
Kinda regret getting this phone after only 7 months of owning it...
We will see...
Yep, another big costly Chinese tibit.
*warcry scream*
1. I doubt these reps have any more of a clue about the O update for the H8 than you do. If you communicate with enough of them, I am sure one of them will give you the answer you're looking for.
2. What's the fascination with the O update anyway? Functionally, what do you want to do that O will help you with (that N and M do not)?
3. If you use the H8 as a daily driver, the need to experiment with the latest and greatest is diminished. Haven't you read the numerous posts complaining about compatibility with N, much less O? As an example, it took ages for Xposed to work with N. Many here would prefer full compatibility with Xposed vs. an O update with limited or no Xposed support.
4. There are many other threads talking about O being promised -- or not -- for the H8. Why can't posters just update one thread with their latest updates from (mostly clueless) reps?
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1. I doubt these reps have any more of a clue about the O update for the H8 than you do. If you communicate with enough of them, I am sure one of them will give you the answer you're looking for.
2. What's the fascination with the O update anyway? Functionally, what do you want to do that O will help you with (that N and M do not)?
3. If you use the H8 as a daily driver, the need to experiment with the latest and greatest is diminished. Haven't you read the numerous posts complaining about compatibility with N, much less O? As an example, it took ages for Xposed to work with N. Many here would prefer full compatibility with Xposed vs. an O update with limited or no Xposed support.
4. There are many other threads talking about O being promised -- or not -- for the H8. Why can't posters just update one thread with their latest updates from (mostly clueless) reps?
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It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy
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It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy
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Btw Honor 8 is being updated regularly every 3 months. We received the B394 on September and the B398 is already being released. Updated don't mean only Major updated
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It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy
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Btw Honor 8 is being updated regularly every 3 months. We received the B394 on September and the B398 is already being released. Updated don't mean only Major updated
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Imho we're only talking about official upgrades, no root or xposed, so we don't really care about xposed : if you use xposed, you have rooted your phone, so you willingly excluded yourself from official upgrades.
I think a lot of us understood that 2 years updates meant 2 major android upgrades, which is not what happens, we only get very minor updates every few months.
Imho a real serious way of handling updates would be to release one with every google security patch, with no new feature and only bug fixing, security first.
And then state something about the major android upgrades, but these 2 should be separated.
But I'm dreaming in a non commercial world
And if you add a so-called partnership with XDA developers, and no real full source has been released, yes this is very disappointing.
Unfortunately Huawei is terrible with updating their previous devices. They're in it for a quick buck and move onto the next new one. All you can do is vote with your money next time and buy a Google pixel if you want updates, or an iPhone. I wouldn't expect more than 1 major os upgrade for any Huawei devices.
I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.
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I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.
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I second that. KRACK (hell, even Blueborne) is unpatched on our phones. I understand that we get "regular" updates, but seriously, an out-of-band update when serious vulnerabilities occur is not much to ask.
Not everybody can afford an iPhone, but for sure, if Huawei/Honor don't get their act together, this will be the first and the last of their devices that I will ever buy.
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I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.
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Probably, but it's still Crapple.
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Unfortunately Huawei is terrible with updating their previous devices. They're in it for a quick buck and move onto the next new one. All you can do is vote with your money next time and buy a Google pixel if you want updates, or an iPhone. I wouldn't expect more than 1 major os upgrade for any Huawei devices.
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Yes, but so much advertising around XDA partnership and honor 8 beeing their new "long live" model made a lot of us buy it even if they had such reputation.
iPhone ? Never ever ! This is the opposite problem, they push too much major upgrades so your phone becomes a low performance phone.
I have an ipad2 for music creation, I recovered good performance when I rolled back from verrrrry laggggggy iOS 9 to iOS 6.
From the previous update patterns.. if your model has launched with (MM) you will get the next one(N). If your model has launched with (N), then you will get the Oreo. Period..
It depends.
Honor promised either 12 or 24 months of Major Android Updates. Honor has delivered in the past like my Honor 4C got two major Android updates Lollipop and Marshmallow. I believe we should get Oreo since it is extremely healthy for the development community. If Honor delivers Oreo with Treble Support, there's a high chance of getting a fully functional bulges custom ROMs for the device.
From my previous experiences with Huawei devices i noticed that they only receive 1 major update during their lifetime. Even flagships. That was true with Ascend P7 (4.2.2.-->5.1.1), P8 (5.1.1-->6.0) and now the same with Honor 8. Huawei does not even bother with intermediate OS updates like 7.0.2 and 7.1.1
It was released with 6.0, now it has 7.0, so ... that's it.
Well, the Honor 6X was released only two months after the 8 with 6.0 too and it has Oreo planned. It doesn't make sense for Honor to ditch 8 for 6X. Let's wait and see.
Those are not official. Someone in these forums got replied to an email that Honor 8 will get a closed beta for it soon. That person is not official Honor and is therefore fake.
Yup the xda partnerships that honor/Huawei touts everytime ar sooooooooooooooooo fake its laughable.
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Well, the Honor 6X was released only two months after the 8 with 6.0 too and it has Oreo planned. It doesn't make sense for Honor to ditch 8 for 6X. Let's wait and see.
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The customer support is now saying that even the Honor 6X isn't going to recieve the Oreo update.
She did mention that despite it hasn't been announced we shouldn't lose hope since it still isn't CONFIRMED. She also mentioned that we will continue recieving security patches which honestly is more that enough for me......
I've tried Oreo on my Nexus 5X and if anything it made the device slower and doesn't have any new changes or features apart from the password filling in apps or the updated Bluetooth codec.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
With the August HTC announcement via Twitter that the U11 will receive Android 9.0 (Pie), wanted to get a specific Pie discussion going. I'm aware of the Software Update thread, etc,... but this is U11 PIE specific here.
Me personally. I'm hoping PIE brings a radio firmware update as well. I never got my Oreo VZW SMS issues resolved other than to stick with 7.1.1 until something comes along that works. And I don't like not having the latest security patches.
So that brings me to the next point. Hopefully PIE fulfills the promise of decoupling security updates from firmware and software updates. i.e., be able to always implement the latest security patches for that version of Android, regardless if the OEM provides updates or not. Here's to hoping.
Anyways, I know there are some PIE based ROMs out there, but hopefully when the first official HTC released PIE update hits the street, you'll hear it here first.
Cheers
1st of all, do you both have a history? or I'm the only one who feel this way.
2nd, Currently there is a Pie ROM here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/development/rom-slim7-t3855041), try if you want
For me, I'm not so excited with HTC U11 official PIE release, since the U11 has capacitive keys so they cannot have or evolve to a way we can have gesture or something like that.
What I'm more looking forward to is all the custom ROM which will come after the official release !
So that brings me to the next point. Hopefully PIE fulfills the promise of decoupling security updates from firmware and software updates. i.e., be able to always implement the latest security patches for that version of Android, regardless if the OEM provides updates or not. Here's to hoping.
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Really hoping for this too.
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Really hoping for this too.
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I'm debating if I should wait for pie or get a pixel 3xl. I have 2 U11's and one I got for free. With the black Friday deal on Verizon I won't even lose money. The question is HTC or Google Pie...
Me 2. But the boss may not be pleased I get another phone after a year.haha. Next phone pixel for me. Our phones are as important as our computers these days. She is apple fan too and she has told me a few times get an iphone over the years . Sure rip off to start but it gets updated for years. Despite this I like the flexibility of Android so pay extra for the pixel and get security updates.
When they announced we were going to be getting Pie on Twitter they stated 'Timeframes for roll-out will be announced in due course'. Has anyone heard anything about the roll-out as that statement was made three months ago?!
In this case "in due course" translates to "we have no plans".
I haven't seen any new information about Pie for the U11 since this announcement, and don't expect Pie in 2018.
Maybe in early 2019 ? But even that isn't sure.
Maybe HTC will close down before releasing it.
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In this case "in due course" translates to "we have no plans".
I haven't seen any new information about Pie for the U11 since this announcement, and don't expect Pie in 2018.
Maybe in early 2019 ? But even that isn't sure.
Maybe HTC will close down before releasing it.
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That's what I think. I did email HTC Support (waste of time) who advised me to go to settings and check for update! As much as I like this phone it will be my last HTC as they do not supply any after-sales customer care whatsoever!
i have similar sympathies. Up until now all of my phones except for one have been HTC devices but I have a feeling the company can't keep up anymore. Sense hasn't had a decent upgrade in ages. HTC apps like dialer look and work dated and now updates also take way too long. I remember that at some point they said 90 days (back in the Lollipop days) after a new android release and that would put Pie in November but we haven't even had a proper leak yet.
Unless they come out punching hard with the next model I'm afraid this has been it for me and HTC and I'll move maybe to the Sammy camp or something.
Other than the lack of updates, its a great phone, my minor issue is how bluetooth is handled when compared to my last phone (lg v20 ) which got water damaged. With the Lg v20 you could have 2 bluetooth devices connected at the same time. So in car you not need to worry if you had your headset connected if you got a call. Its a minor issue but a annoying you have to remember to turn off your watch (i got a huawei band 2 watch you can take calls on).
Anyway back on topic, I wonder Pie would add this feature or not so if you got a call you can take it on any of the two bluetooth devices.
Since the rumor that HTC was canceling early 2019 flagship phone, I think that may have some influences on Pie.
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Since the rumor that HTC was canceling early 2019 flagship phone, I think that may have some influences on Pie.
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They said they're focusing on 5G phones
Well I got it all wrong.
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Its googles fault, they are waiting for them previously when I asked it was the telco but it is never htc fault.
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HTC release Pie for U11 life https://www.ubergizmo.com/2018/11/htc-u11-life-android-pie-update/
The firmware for the U11 life can't be that much different from the U11. We may get it quicker than we think?
Joooo ****ing pie in u11 Life?!!!!? Oh ****
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The firmware for the U11 life can't be that much different from the U11. We may get it quicker than we think?
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No, we won't
U11 Life is an Android One device.
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The firmware for the U11 life can't be that much different from the U11. We may get it quicker than we think?
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Is absolutely different. The life version is an "android one" device.
Is normal, as expected, that the u11 life get first the updates.
Now, should update the u12+, then the u11+ and the last the u11. If we get the update on February I would say that we are lucky.
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HTC release Pie for U11 life https://www.ubergizmo.com/2018/11/htc-u11-life-android-pie-update/
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The firmware for the U11 life can't be that much different from the U11. We may get it quicker than we think?
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U11 life has 2 version:
1 version with HTC software, officially not getting Pie, and will never get
1 version in the Android One program, so it get updated to Android Pie
Don't mess both version, because they are never the same .
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In this case "in due course" translates to "we have no plans".
I haven't seen any new information about Pie for the U11 since this announcement, and don't expect Pie in 2018.
Maybe in early 2019 ? But even that isn't sure.
Maybe HTC will close down before releasing it.
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I'm already expecting they will release a apology statement for not updating U11. Just wait for our awesome developer community