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Sign Up For Spotify!

Hey guys click the link and enter your email address to sign up for Spotify. They are coming to the USA!
http://www.spotify.com/uk/coming-to-the-us/

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I can really recommend Spotify, I've been using it daily for the past three years here in Sweden. Also it's nice to have your music available on your computer, phone and Transformer.

I can't wait! I currently use Grooveshark which isn't bad but they're not great on reliability; they have some server/dropouts issues.
They also aren't great on customer complaints....
I'm REALLY looking forward to this.

Ghosttown the best music app on android

I already signed up for it. It's free right I'm not sure how Spotify works or anything. I know there is a paid option that allows local storage.
Although I already have Zune (Love it) so I dunno why I'd use this...oh right it'll work on my TF.

PaulGG said:
Ghosttown the best music app on android
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Far from it...lol....
If you are looking for accuracy of your chosen music it does a horrible job...it shows the album that the song came from and then it might (not always) play a cover by someone of that same song...it can't differentiate versions of songs...it's no different than putting in youtube "bruce springsteen darkness edge of town" and hopefully getting the right song.
Groove shark is better and Slacker is better. (but you have to put up with a different mix of "similar songs" if you don't want to pay)
I think it's worth 9.00 a month and I'm sure that Spotify will be very good (from what I've seen)

[Q] Google (play) Music and Piracy

Tried to find a relevent thread to put this under but they mainly seem to be about apks and under different phone discussions ...
So what with USB OTG looking unlikely (at least for the meantime, but maybe forever) for the Nexus 4 and no SD card slot I find myself in the position of sort of being strongarmed into using Google Music.
My question here is about pirated music. I'm sure my collection (alike to most peoples) isn't entirely free of this, and if it counts the CD's I converted into mp3s when I first bought an mp3 player then it definitely isn't.
So I have no problem if google music deletes anything that it doesn't deem legit, that's cool. I'm not however cool with them then notifying sony or something and a million dollar (pound) lawsuit then being dropped on me ... I've been doing some googling but haven't really found much of a discussion about this.
Anyone got 2 cents to add in? Is it safe to upload everything to google music and then let them sort it out?

You'll be fine.
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have a few songs on there for quite some time now and no issues so far?

I've uploaded my entire music collection to both Google Music AND the Amazon Cloud Player and I'm sure there some pirated albums in there.. but nothing has been deleted and no police have smashed my doors in.
You'll be fine. The Google service is very good too - the tag editing is much better than Amazon's for example. I no longer need a PC to manage my music. I have a 16GB N4 and I created an "Essentials" playlist on Google Music containing my absolute favourite songs and I've made that permanent on the phone - so it downloaded all the songs automatically. And it's pretty sweet having access to your entire collection via a decent connection.

.....how would they even no ? Its not like you labeled them; song1 album6 stolen from artist 2. Lol
This is a question my parents would ask..I find it naive.

tweaked said:
.....how would they even no ? Its not like you labeled them; song1 album6 stolen from artist 2. Lol
This is a question my parents would ask..I find it naive.
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Well there are all sorts of data points they could compare, the easiest being to compare file size and the MD5 hash of known rips (although the latter is easily changed) but I presume they would use several different factors and maybe use some sort of spectral analysis and check any watermarks.
In fact youtube already does things along these lines.
I doubt they would catch on to CDs ripped by individual people, but for example, tracks from a popular torrent would be fairly simple to identify especially once vast numbers of people start uploading the exact same files, which don't correlate to a legitimate source.
It would be quite easy for google to compile a lists of things that were definitely pirated, and definitely legitimate. If you were in between you'd probably be fine too, but anything taken from a popular torrent i'd imagine would definitely fall into a blacklist.
There would be various ways around this, if necessary I'm sure someone will make an application to go through an subtly alter elements of your music collection to ensure it wouldn't match any database of known rips, maybe by inserting small silences (even if just a fraction of a second) at the beginning or end of tracks and changing a number of other attributes that wouldn't affect playback.
So yeah not naive at all, you just clearly didn't think about it enough.
It all comes down to if Google is bothering / cares and what action they intend to take if they do find material which obviously comes from a pirated source. As I mentioned if they just remove it - no problem could either circumvent their checks or purchase the missing songs, but if they may have to (even if not now but at a later date) give out the credentials of anyone whom they have found with pirated material that could be a problem.

I've looked around for posts like this with no luck and nothing on Google search as well. I am sure many people have lots of pirated music on there and I haven't heard of any issues whatsoever which is a good sign. Or they're waiting and lulling us into a false sense of confidence before screwing us all haha
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NabeShogun said:
Well there are all sorts of data points they could compare, the easiest being to compare file size and the MD5 hash of known rips (although the latter is easily changed) but I presume they would use several different factors and maybe use some sort of spectral analysis and check any watermarks.
In fact youtube already does things along these lines.
I doubt they would catch on to CDs ripped by individual people, but for example, tracks from a popular torrent would be fairly simple to identify especially once vast numbers of people start uploading the exact same files, which don't correlate to a legitimate source.
It would be quite easy for google to compile a lists of things that were definitely pirated, and definitely legitimate. If you were in between you'd probably be fine too, but anything taken from a popular torrent i'd imagine would definitely fall into a blacklist.
There would be various ways around this, if necessary I'm sure someone will make an application to go through an subtly alter elements of your music collection to ensure it wouldn't match any database of known rips, maybe by inserting small silences (even if just a fraction of a second) at the beginning or end of tracks and changing a number of other attributes that wouldn't affect playback.
So yeah not naive at all, you just clearly didn't think about it enough.
It all comes down to if Google is bothering / cares and what action they intend to take if they do find material which obviously comes from a pirated source. As I mentioned if they just remove it - no problem could either circumvent their checks or purchase the missing songs, but if they may have to (even if not now but at a later date) give out the credentials of anyone whom they have found with pirated material that could be a problem.
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Just because your file matches the common torrent files doesn't mean it actually is the common torrent file. If two people rip and verify with AccurateRip the files -should- be identical.

NabeShogun said:
Tried to find a relevent thread to put this under but they mainly seem to be about apks and under different phone discussions ...
So what with USB OTG looking unlikely (at least for the meantime, but maybe forever) for the Nexus 4 and no SD card slot I find myself in the position of sort of being strongarmed into using Google Music.
My question here is about pirated music. I'm sure my collection (alike to most peoples) isn't entirely free of this, and if it counts the CD's I converted into mp3s when I first bought an mp3 player then it definitely isn't.
So I have no problem if google music deletes anything that it doesn't deem legit, that's cool. I'm not however cool with them then notifying sony or something and a million dollar (pound) lawsuit then being dropped on me ... I've been doing some googling but haven't really found much of a discussion about this.
Anyone got 2 cents to add in? Is it safe to upload everything to google music and then let them sort it out?
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They don't know what is legit or not it just uploads whatever is in your music collection. Don't ask me how I know I just do.

kzoodroid said:
They don't know what is legit or not it just uploads whatever is in your music collection. Don't ask me how I know I just do.
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Google employee in flimsy disguise? Haha
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Google is not the police. Google would make no money scaring people away by prosecuting people with files they may or may not know are illegal.
If a company wanted to invest a LOT of money in legal fees to somehow make a court force Google to release our private files so that said company can scan them for watermarks etc. you might be at risk, but I very much doubt an outside company could get the power to do that.

Thread necro!
Any new information about this since way back when this thread was? I know someone who isn't me that wants to use google play music, but they may or may not have some questionable music files. Is it cool to upload it?

It's fine. I use play music all the time and my collection isn't fully legit.
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April 4 2014: Google Patents a Way to Keep Pirated Content off of Google Play
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/04/04/google-patents-way-to-keep-pirated-content-off-of-play/

Remove iTunes DRM for use with S4

Can anyone recommend a good free converter that will change my .m4p files to mp3 for use with my S4 / other devices. I hate restrictions on the stuff I PAID for. Looks like I may have just installed a faulty program trying to search myself. Any help would be appreciated
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I haven't worked with m4p files in a LONG time, but back when I was in college, I used to make "CDs" out of them with an old application that made sort of an iso of the CD format, and just ripped in back into mp3 format. Ended up create a small script that would do that for a list of songs. I'm pretty sure someone has created an app to do that by now. If all else fails, you can go at it the old fashion way - burn and rip.

I think this is against XDA rules man. As much as you might have payed, you payed for licensing from Apple and they dictate the terms
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Thermalwolf said:
I think this is against XDA rules man. As much as you might have payed, you payed for licensing from Apple and they dictate the terms
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I wasn't exactly looking to send all my music out for free in a share network. Just looking to get it to work on my PERSONAL device. I understand where you are coming from though. Talking with Apple now as I believe you used to be able to burn your songs to a disk in mp3. Not sure if it's because I am trying to do it with a data dvd-rw but each time the songs remain in the same format. Love the benefits I get for actually paying for my music. Not trying to do anything shady haha. Just looking for my music on my device
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Mike on XDA said:
I wasn't exactly looking to send all my music out for free in a share network. Just looking to get it to work on my PERSONAL device. I understand where you are coming from though. Talking with Apple now as I believe you used to be able to burn your songs to a disk in mp3. Not sure if it's because I am trying to do it with a data dvd-rw but each time the songs remain in the same format. Love the benefits I get for actually paying for my music. Not trying to do anything shady haha. Just looking for my music on my device
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I still buy all my music from itunes and it has always worked on my android phones. IIRC Apple convered to non-DRM many years ago. Anything you bought before that they gave you an option to convert (for a price).

GeorgeP said:
I still buy all my music from itunes and it has always worked on my android phones. IIRC Apple convered to non-DRM many years ago. Anything you bought before that they gave you an option to convert (for a price).
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Just got off the phone with a rep and I should be able to get those older tracks dmr free in the way of redownloading. The songs unfortunately are too far back to be listed for direct download in my purchase history. I have to go on chat support and give all the individual order numbers listed in my invoice looking purchase history. Certainly not ideal, but better than nothing.
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Mike on XDA said:
Just got off the phone with a rep and I should be able to get those older tracks dmr free in the way of redownloading. The songs unfortunately are too far back to be listed for direct download in my purchase history. I have to go on chat support and give all the individual order numbers listed in my invoice looking purchase history. Certainly not ideal, but better than nothing.
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I tested it out with my account, and anything that I purchase back when I owned a 3GS remains DRM'd. If Apple's willing to help you, that's awesome. There might be some issue about when you bought it and what the EULA was back then. Hopefully Apple can help you through that.
On a side note, Amazon MP3 FTW!

Back off a long chat with support.
iTunes plus has been discontinued and I have yet to get my music burned to a disk in .mp3 format from .m4p. I keep trying in iTunes but haven't been successful yet using a dvd-rw. Not sure if it makes a difference so I will try a cd-r in a minute. The only current way to get the songs DRM free is by subscribing to iTunes Match. From what I understand it scans your library, upgrades lower bit versions of songs and allow you to download DRM free versions of your purchased tracks. $25 a year upfront.
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Mike on XDA said:
Back off a long chat with support.
iTunes plus has been discontinued and I have yet to get my music burned to a disk in .mp3 format from .m4p. I keep trying in iTunes but haven't been successful yet using a dvd-rw. Not sure if it makes a difference so I will try a cd-r in a minute. The only current way to get the songs DRM free is by subscribing to iTunes Match. From what I understand it scans your library, upgrades lower bit versions of songs and allow you to download DRM free versions of your purchased tracks. $25 a year upfront.
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The official way is to make Music CD disks from iTunes - basically the M4P is turned into a WAV file and you get to put 12 or so on a CD. You lose all the tags, then you can re-rip to MP3. There are some software solutions (I have seen ads) but i have not tried them.

alphadog00 said:
The official way is to make Music CD disks from iTunes - basically the M4P is turned into a WAV file and you get to put 12 or so on a CD. You lose all the tags, then you can re-rip to MP3. There are some software solutions (I have seen ads) but i have not tried them.
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Yeah, every time I rip them though there are large discrepancies on the time for each track. They are in unprotected format after but some cut off halfway and others last longer than they should with just blank audio. For example Free Fallin by Tom Petty is 4:16 on iTunes but 14:25 on the disk. It is just blank for the extra 10 min while other tracks are cut off with not enough time. I don't understand... This is quite the pain and I'm now out of disks.
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DVD Fab has itunes DRM removal built into it. I think they have a free trial of it, not sure though.

WIME Nano Smartwatch, looks nice

Interesting Android smartwatch here. It can actually be used as a standalone phone, bands are GSM/GPRS Quad Band:GSM 850/900/DCS 1800/PCS 1900 MHZ (can this be used on AT&T?).
What I'm not seeing is if it can be used as a dialer for your phone, so you can just leave it in your pocket and make and receive calls like the Gear.
What do you guys think? I'm tempted to get it just to play around with.
http://mobile.brando.com/WIME-Nano-Smart-Phone-Watch_p10361c687d90.html

Doing some further reading, yes you can initiate a call to your phone with it, woot! It also has music over bluetooth and local storage. It looks like it has no speaker/mic so you have to use a headset with it, boo, but that's ok.

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Doing some further reading, yes you can initiate a call to your phone with it, woot! It also has music over bluetooth and local storage. It looks like it has no speaker/mic so you have to use a headset with it, boo, but that's ok.
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That does look neat, any word on pricing yet?

ClearD said:
That does look neat, any word on pricing yet?
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Looks like $95 from the link?

vectron said:
Looks like $95 from the link?
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D'oh. I missed it, I went straight down to the pictures. Either that or the page didn't load completely the first time. Either way, thank you!
That's not a bad price point at all... maybe a mini server or media player...

Feature phone software, bleh.
Although I guess for 100 bucks you can't expect it to run Android.
Edit: Hmm, just noticed no where does it say there's a speaker built in...guess you have to use a headset to use it as a phone.
Also only compatible with Android 2.3-4.0. Doesn't say it works with newer.

speedyink said:
Feature phone software, bleh.
Although I guess for 100 bucks you can't expect it to run Android.
Edit: Hmm, just noticed no where does it say there's a speaker built in...guess you have to use a headset to use it as a phone.
Also only compatible with Android 2.3-4.0. Doesn't say it works with newer.
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Strange, I was also surprised by that 4.0 rather then 4.x reference. And I think you are right about headphone 3.5mm jack as the only way to listen to the music. Would have been great if they would include a camera in there.

Is it ok to say that it looks kinda...ugly?
Or is it just me?
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Good Lord. I'm off tonight. I thought it RAN android. In this case, I'd say the price point may be a little high.
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vagelis said:
Is it ok to say that it looks kinda...ugly?
Or is it just me?
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No, it's pretty ugly.

vagelis said:
Is it ok to say that it looks kinda...ugly?
Or is it just me?
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Haha, first thing that crossed my mind when i saw it.
Dunno why but personally i find most smart watches just tend to look either dull, or just plain awful. Maybe it's because of the space they have to work with? Dunno :/

You guys realize it's a phone? It might be nice to have as a backup phone, or if I just want a tiny phone. It doesn't run apps, but I never had much use for apps on a 1.5" screen.
It's interesting, I may grab one just to play around with. It seems to have AT&T bands. I don't plan on using it like a watch though, it's too ugly like that. I'd just stick it in my pocket or clip it on.

spinedoc said:
You guys realize it's a phone? It might be nice to have as a backup phone, or if I just want a tiny phone. It doesn't run apps, but I never had much use for apps on a 1.5" screen.
It's interesting, I may grab one just to play around with. It seems to have AT&T bands. I don't plan on using it like a watch though, it's too ugly like that. I'd just stick it in my pocket or clip it on.
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We're fully aware. It's just between recent offerings like the Omate Truesmart and previous offerings like every chinese watch phone out there, this one seems like too little too late to really make sense right now.
If you want a cheap feature-phone watch check out what's available to get a style you like. This one is pretty big and ugly for what it does.

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We're fully aware. It's just between recent offerings like the Omate Truesmart and previous offerings like every chinese watch phone out there, this one seems like too little too late to really make sense right now.
If you want a cheap feature-phone watch check out what's available to get a style you like. This one is pretty big and ugly for what it does.
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Thanks, do you have any links to any watch phones that work with AT&T like this one does? I did a google search and didn't find much, Chinese tech seems kind of hard to find on the internet.

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Thanks, do you have any links to any watch phones that work with AT&T like this one does? I did a google search and didn't find much, Chinese tech seems kind of hard to find on the internet.
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I sort of want the microphone... it's a super tiny phone that was on indiegogo for like $50 when it launched. GPS enabled for a bit more, I think.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/micro-phone-our-amazing-device-is-now-available-with-bluetooth-4-0-ble-tracking--17

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Thanks, do you have any links to any watch phones that work with AT&T like this one does? I did a google search and didn't find much, Chinese tech seems kind of hard to find on the internet.
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Have you tried amazon? I typed in watch phone and got 20 pages of results, all sorts of different styles. Most of them under $100

I just bought one and its sitting at the house I'll post a review tonight. Already want to sell cause I want android version, I didn't know others existed till a minute ago lol
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So I got one and got to say this thing is a perfect companion for a phone at work. Built in mic allows you to answer on your wrist and be like I'll call you back it also has Bluetooth audio out and wireless headset support. Weird thing is contacts and messages won't work without a sim has to have one active or not I'm on Verizon so its pointless to try lucky I had art laying around and it vibrates!! This thing is sweet to be cheap!!!
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So I got one and got to say this thing is a perfect companion for a phone at work. Built in mic allows you to answer on your wrist and be like I'll call you back it also has Bluetooth audio out and wireless headset support. Weird thing is contacts and messages won't work without a sim has to have one active or not I'm on Verizon so its pointless to try lucky I had art laying around and it vibrates!! This thing is sweet to be cheap!!!
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From the watch description:
Smart Sync Function: Can sync with smart phone, downloading phonebook and call history (iOS 4.0+ and Android 2.3+) to the device. When using Android 2.3+ OS, download and install the WiMe NanoSmart APK on the Android device and the NanoSmart will sync with the Android device (Google calendar events, new Gmail notification, call history, phonebook, sent/received SMS).
Have you tried to install WiMe NanoSmart?

I'm on 4.3 AOKP linario I can't say its bougus but the contacts sync but....... With out each and every number having the country code in it it refuses to call or message weird right? Gmail hasn't worked or calendar. I refuse to downgrade for it. I use this to get away with texting and calling at work via mini Bluetooth headset and a beanie lol.
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from gs2-to iph5-to iph6-to gs7e

Dear all!
Good evening (at least on my time zone lol )
As title suggests ever since like 2011 i have gone from galaxy s 2 to iphone 5 then iphone 6 and right now on an amazing white s7 edge that has just swept my heart !!
What i need you help is with is re-adapting to the eco-system..
As u can see i was long adapted to apple's ecosystem for buying mostly music..now i transfered via otg from iph6 to my gs7e all the music but my question is..how do i buy stuff now??
i do know that i can buy everything off google's store but that will just leave me with a horrible half assed library on 1 apple account and another half assed library barely started at a google account..
I also know i can just buy subscription and steam like anything for free, but my country charges almost 150euros/month for 2 GB of data pla..and thats a direct rape right there..thats why i buy music from the stores..please help me find a solution..
acceptable solution would even be to buy music off itunes on my desktop pc and somehow just transfer the songs not already on my s7e..
Please for your input! Thank you for welcoming me back to the community and sorry for the wall of text <3

chris2busy said:
Dear all!
Good evening (at least on my time zone lol )
As title suggests ever since like 2011 i have gone from galaxy s 2 to iphone 5 then iphone 6 and right now on an amazing white s7 edge that has just swept my heart !!
What i need you help is with is re-adapting to the eco-system..
As u can see i was long adapted to apple's ecosystem for buying mostly music..now i transfered via otg from iph6 to my gs7e all the music but my question is..how do i buy stuff now??
i do know that i can buy everything off google's store but that will just leave me with a horrible half assed library on 1 apple account and another half assed library barely started at a google account..
I also know i can just buy subscription and steam like anything for free, but my country charges almost 150euros/month for 2 GB of data pla..and thats a direct rape right there..thats why i buy music from the stores..please help me find a solution..
acceptable solution would even be to buy music off itunes on my desktop pc and somehow just transfer the songs not already on my s7e..
Please for your input! Thank you for welcoming me back to the community and sorry for the wall of text <3
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Shhhhhh, tell no one !
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.android.music

lolrenx said:
Shhhhhh, tell no one !
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.android.music
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haha..yea i actually tried that one..but i cannot seem to somehow buy new stuff off it..and also, i cant seem to download and keep the music i already own offline..if i need to use 1GB of monthly data just to hear music while i jog, on my phone for music that i have already bought...yeah, pretty moronic, expensive and battery-health inflicting.

chris2busy said:
haha..yea i actually tried that one..but i cannot seem to somehow buy new stuff off it..and also, i cant seem to download and keep the music i already own offline..if i need to use 1GB of monthly data just to hear music while i jog, on my phone for music that i have already bought...yeah, pretty moronic, expensive and battery-health inflicting.
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You could try transferring your music to Amazon music if you are prime. Or if I remember right google play music can do the same(not sure if you need an abo). And than download the music for offline use.

Google play music allows you to install something on your Mac which allows you to then upload your entire iTunes library into the cloud. From there you can then stream your Google music on Google play music on your Android device. Or you can choose to download that same music onto your phone from the cloud.
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Canadoc said:
Google play music allows you to install something on your Mac which allows you to then upload your entire iTunes library into the cloud. From there you can then stream your Google music on Google play music on your Android device. Or you can choose to download that same music onto your phone from the cloud.
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does this require a paid subscription for google music to be paid and on at all times?

chris2busy said:
does this require a paid subscription for google music to be paid and on at all times?
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Not for music you already own. If you upload your own library you can stream and sync it for free. Paid subscription is for radio streaming and music you don't already own

lolrenx said:
Not for music you already own. If you upload your own library you can stream and sync it for free. Paid subscription is for radio streaming and music you don't already own
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Thanks a million!
This worked marvelously! You are a life saver mate! Thank you!

chris2busy said:
Thanks a million!
This worked marvelously! You are a life saver mate! Thank you!
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No worries buddy! welcome to team s7 edge!