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End of the road for us

hi
see below link one plus has discountinued the X
sad news we are dead end of the road for US :crying::crying::crying:
link : http://www.fonearena.com/blog/18830...now-focus-on-true-flagship-line-only-ceo.html

We'll still get N and I may end up picking up a Nexus down the road anyway. End of the road for OnePlus but most definitely not for us
I'm getting another year out of this at least
Great phone though. I have a few tricks up my sleeve still

That means NO Android M OxygenOS 3.0
So that also means OPX get no Android M OxygenOS 3.0 ? OnePlus One allready got Marshmellow for testers sound Kind of UNFAIR.
Anyway Installed Resurrection Remix 5.7.0 Android 6.0.1
If this Happends that 5.1.1 is the Last Update Unfair Support for the Onyx.
Thanks #OnePlus

No..
xXGre3nPois0nXx said:
So that also means OPX get no Android M OxygenOS 3.0 ? OnePlus One allready got Marshmellow for testers sound Kind of UNFAIR.
Anyway Installed Resurrection Remix 5.7.0 Android 6.0.1
If this Happends that 5.1.1 is the Last Update Unfair Support for the Onyx.
Thanks #OnePlus
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No... They are going to provide support for at-least two year after product launch ...so will be getting MM for sure (don't know when ) and may be "N"...for Oxygen OS

Hopefully :/ , i can't wait for OxygenOS i think we will get Android N soon and when not Official by OP than by CyanogenMod 14 or AOSP based Roms

it just means there will be no Oneplus X2. that is all. it does not affect oneplus X in anyway.

I wonder if the opened kernel sources would give a boost to oneplus X custom ROM development as well?

It means no mid spec device in the same form factor. It doesn't mean there'll be no high spec device in the same form factor.
However, having used a OnePlus One for a few days, and having had the OnePlus X for about a week now, I'll be in absolutely no rush to buy another one of their devices. There are far better Chinese options these days.

mudnightoil said:
It means no mid spec device in the same form factor. It doesn't mean there'll be no high spec device in the same form factor.
However, having used a OnePlus One for a few days, and having had the OnePlus X for about a week now, I'll be in absolutely no rush to buy another one of their devices. There are far better Chinese options these days.
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With a NON-ios-y-skinned Android and this much Developer friendly? I don't know any Chinese OEMs.
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sankarshan said:
With a NON-ios-y-skinned Android and this much Developer friendly? I don't know any Chinese OEMs.
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The China-only H2OS stock ROM reeks of IOS envy.
Dead Cookies leave no trails...

Cookie Ninja said:
The China-only H2OS stock ROM reeks of IOS envy.
Dead Cookies leave no trails...
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I meant an almost "stock" Android ROM.
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Divyesh49 said:
No... They are going to provide support for at-least two year after product launch ...so will be getting MM for sure (don't know when ) and may be "N"...for Oxygen OS
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You really believe this? Maybe the phone will get 2 or 3 more security updates, but that's all... it's dead in OnePlus' eyes, only the community will keep this phone alive.

OnePlus X series
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It means there will be no an OnePlus X2. OnePlus X still maintained.

Android N - Zenfone 2 ?

With Intel dropping the Atom chips and all x86 chipsets, Does anyone know if Android N will be compatible with x86 platform? I do believe we can't rely on Asus to deliver updates since Marshmallow hasnt been officially released to Zenfone 2 devices more than a year after it was first released. Will there be a CM14 for Intel chipsets devices? Any thoughts?
Cheers.

leoarten said:
With Intel dropping the Atom chips and all x86 chipsets, Does anyone know if Android N will be compatible with x86 platform? I do believe we can't rely on Asus to deliver updates since Marshmallow hasnt been officially released to Zenfone 2 devices more than a year after it was first released. Will there be a CM14 for Intel chipsets devices? Any thoughts?
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I think we can rely only on CM team. Asus wouldn't release official MM for z2...

To be very truthful
No..it will never happen.
MM Beta stock on my zen2 4GB ram version , 1.75 GB and upwards of ram is used starting from clean install.
Heaven knows how far that would work on 2gb versions.
I think this is very hard for the development team and probably the reason why the delay to MM.
CM however , have achieved the equivalent with just over 1GB ram used.
Leave it to the CM team

timbernot said:
To be very
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No..it will never happen.
MM Beta stock on my zen2 4GB ram version , 1.75 GB and upwards of ram is used starting from clean install.
Heaven knows how far that would work on 2gb versions.
I think this is very hard for the development team and probably the reason why the delay to MM.
CM however , have achieved the equivalent with just over 1GB ram used.
Leave it to the CM team
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Actually the MM beta on my 2GB 550 manages RAM well. Much better than stock lollipop. Usually keeps around 700-800 MB free and runs very smoothly, much like CM13.

Screenshots please ?
You on 111 beta ?

I'm on the third beta.

kanagawaben said:
I'm on the third beta.
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hows your 550ml doinh bro? mines got ghost touch problem and wony go away
.... nice your still active on zen forum

pato2015 said:
hows your 550ml doinh bro? mines got ghost touch problem and wony go away
.... nice your still active on zen forum
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Mine is doing good, battery is holding up way better than any of my three previous phones (all iphones), which all seriously lost capacity after about a year. I am thinking of passing my 550 on to my daughter to replace her ZF5, which has a broken screen. ZF3 series seems over priced so considering next option at the moment - maybe a Xiaomi or a Vernee Apollo Lite, or maybe spend a bit more for a OnePlus 3 or Axon 7...

kanagawaben said:
Mine is doing good, battery is holding up way better than any of my three previous phones (all iphones), which all seriously lost capacity after about a year. I am thinking of passing my 550 on to my daughter to replace her ZF5, which has a broken screen. ZF3 series seems over priced so considering next option at the moment - maybe a Xiaomi or a Vernee Apollo Lite, or maybe spend a bit more for a OnePlus 3 or Axon 7...
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just got moto x pure edition from bestbuy on sale last week 32 gb for $249 .. great dual front speakers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/moto-x-pure-32gb-249-best-buy-elite-t3422415

Once the 6.x gets out of beta or the Zoom kernel blobs gets merged, we should all switch to Cyanogen since those 3-5 guys cared way more than Asus. For such projects just like Linux, more users= more tests, feedback and hopefully more donations.
As a person who knew Asus since their Pentium 2 motherboards, I lost all my trust and respect to them as a company. Besides build quality, their strength had always been timely BIOS updates, good drivers. They forgot what made them stand out from rest of OEM crowd.

http://www.xda-developers.com/android-nougat-finally-released-get-it-now/
Android N Officially Out for Nexus devices.

zenfone 2 N, no never. Get over it, it works fine on android 5. You just want it cause you can't have it.

Actually, users deserve timely major OS upgrades, Microsoft can upgrade Windows XP to Windows 10 for free. It is OEM companies like Asus with their unneeded, childish and performance killing modifications who keeps these devices backwards. They even put a freaking antivirus from a _very_ questionable Chinese company into their ROM giving it system app status, of course compatibility issues will happen. All those stupid themes with that ugly creature, these things have a price and they & we users are paying it with outdated OS.
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zenfone 2 N, no never. Get over it, it works fine on android 5. You just want it cause you can't have it.
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sferrariba said:
zenfone 2 N, no never. Get over it, it works fine on android 5. You just want it cause you can't have it.
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And I guess you just pretend to only enjoy using Android 5 because you can't have Android 6?
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Ilgazc said:
Actually, users deserve timely major OS upgrades, Microsoft can upgrade Windows XP to Windows 10 for free. It is OEM companies like Asus with their unneeded, childish and performance killing modifications who keeps these devices backwards. They even put a freaking antivirus from a _very_ questionable Chinese company into their ROM giving it system app status, of course compatibility issues will happen. All those stupid themes with that ugly creature, these things have a price and they & we users are paying it with outdated OS.
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Why does everyone think they are entitled to free upgrades to a new OS? The phone was sold as a LP phone. There was nothing in the ads or the paperwork that came with my phone that said a free upgrade was included. The only thing Asus HAS to provide is a reasonable warranty. Everything else is a bonus on their part. This sense of entitlement is amazing.
Oh yeah, BTW, that free windows 10 upgrade? It was the first time they ever did anything like that. And it's already over. If you didn't already get it, it's gonna cost you $120 now.
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You are right. Its not mandatory but is common sense. And the phone wasn t that cheape.
After all in gsmarena said "upgradable to MM"

Ilgazc said:
Actually, users deserve timely major OS upgrades, Microsoft can upgrade Windows XP to Windows 10 for free. It is OEM companies like Asus with their unneeded, childish and performance killing modifications who keeps these devices backwards. They even put a freaking antivirus from a _very_ questionable Chinese company into their ROM giving it system app status, of course compatibility issues will happen. All those stupid themes with that ugly creature, these things have a price and they & we users are paying it with outdated OS.
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I think the more frequent Android release cycle is simply Google pushing hard on OEM's, so that they will eventually give up with their customizations and embrace an unmodified OS.
Maintaining security patches and minor OS updates is already a job on its own, if you factor in a new major release each year, either you hire legions of coders or simply give up with heavy-handed customizations...
Which is by the way what ASUS is facing these days, IMO

Why didn't we get 7.1?

Why couldn't samsung simply rip out the spen junk from the note rom and release it on our phones?

Because they're working on Oreo

crixley said:
Because they're working on Oreo
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That's not a valid excuse, 7.1 came out in oct 2016, 7 months later the s8 was released with an os that came out in august 2016.
These are not midrange phones, we deserve better.

peachpuff said:
That's not a valid excuse, 7.1 came out in oct 2016, 7 months later the s8 was released with an os that came out in august 2016.
These are not midrange phones, we deserve better.
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So what is your complaint exactly? You're angry about the fact that we didn't get a rom then, even though we're getting the latest version now? You knew about it, bought it, then came here to complain about it 7 months or so afterwards?
What was so important that changed from 7.0 to 7.1? I have a feeling you're just looking to whine about anything possible

My complaint is pretty clear, not sure why you can't see it.

When Android 7.1 was released, it was seen as a Nexus/Pixel exclusive with pixel-only exclusives. It's more surprising that the Note 8 did come with Android 7.1 than the S8 not getting an update. Most skinned manufacturers decided early on to skip 7.1 in favor of 8.0

Why didn't we get 6.1?
Samsung releases the major builds and frequent updates. We don't need stuff that's more suited for a pixel. If you're that concerned, buy a pixel.

joe3681 said:
Why didn't we get 6.1?
Samsung releases the major builds and frequent updates. We don't need stuff that's more suited for a pixel. If you're that concerned, buy a pixel.
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Except Samsung did get the 6.0.1 update for devices.

Augustin.2 said:
Except Samsung did get the 6.0.1 update for devices.
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I had the S6 Edge +, that was long ago but I don't recall getting it for that device. Either way, obviously wasn't a big deal update

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So what is your complaint exactly? You're angry about the fact that we didn't get a rom then, even though we're getting the latest version now? You knew about it, bought it, then came here to complain about it 7 months or so afterwards?
What was so important that changed from 7.0 to 7.1? I have a feeling you're just looking to whine about anything possible
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Do we get 8.1 ?

Samsung only focus on main releases, 7.0 of samsung has all the stuff of the pure 7.1 with it's own UI

Pastorelli's said:
Do we get 8.1 ?
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What's in the 8.1 that you'll be sorely missing?
If you expect every point update, get a Pixel.

crixley said:
What's in the 8.1 that you'll be sorely missing?
If you expect every point update, get a Pixel.
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It was a only question because as you mentioned earlier that the latest version we will get. I do not miss anything

Pastorelli's said:
It was a only question because as you mentioned earlier that the latest version we will get. I do not miss anything
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Sorry I should have been more clear and misunderstood. By the time that 8.1 was out development on 8 would have already started.

Short answer. Do you seriously expect them to complile thousands of packages all over again for a version that changes basically nothing, only to do it all over again 2 months later for a major release?

thenessus said:
Short answer. Do you seriously expect them to complile thousands of packages all over again for a version that changes basically nothing, only to do it all over again 2 months later for a major release?
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Yes, that's their job, they dont get to take a year off after compiling one version of android. If they can release x.1 updates on the note they can do the same on the s8.

peachpuff said:
Why couldn't samsung simply rip out the spen junk from the note rom and release it on our phones?
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I had the S7 Edge, that was long ago but I don't recall getting it for that device. Either way, obviously wasn't a big deal update

Are we getting Android P?

It is a pity that this question should even be asked even though the V20 is less than 2 years old.
Normally the phone should get 2 major software updates in 2 years. However, since we do not have android oreo yet, one begins to wonder. It will be very nice to have android P though.
Pixel and adroid one phones are looking interesting to me nowadays just because of software updates.
What do you guys think?

Android P is just a preview. We do not know anything about Android P update policies for LG devices.

The chances for an official Andriod P is 50/50 . They may just give up given how poorly this phone sold. But it will definitely meet the minimum requirements for it. But through Roms /LOS we might get 2 major updates and if we're lucky 3.

Like xda member wrote its 50/50. But by the time the v20 gets it you're probably going to have another phone lol

Still_living714 said:
Like xda member wrote its 50/50. But by the time the v20 gets it you're probably going to have another phone lol
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That preety much sums it up if the updates arent in sync with the OS release, then eventually youll out grow your phone for a better one.

im stil on 7.0 lol at this rate i;ll be on V60 by the time my v20 gets upgraded if at all.

Ak7J4 said:
The chances for an official Andriod P is 50/50 . They may just give up given how poorly this phone sold. But it will definitely meet the minimum requirements for it. But through Roms /LOS we might get 2 major updates and if we're lucky 3.
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When it comes to ROM, I guess it depends more on developers than the hardware. The Galaxy S3 is 6 years old by now, and developers are still working on Oreo for it.

phamanhvu01 said:
When it comes to ROM, I guess it depends more on developers than the hardware. The Galaxy S3 is 6 years old by now, and developers are still working on Oreo for it.
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True the S3 is still getting support but the S3 had significantly higher sales than the V20 , and possibly more devs

Nope

https://pics.me.me/oh-wait-youtre-serious-let-me-laugh-even-harder-17927461.png

Google Pixel: 2 years later

It's been 2 years since Google Pixel (XL) was released.
Unfortunately, this means no more major releases for these phones.
I hope the community would still be able to create some porting of next versions of Android, because the OG Pixel still rocks nowadays.
Too bad that a powerful phone like this one will only get security patches for only one year from now.

I still hope they give us 9.1

"No guaranteed Android version updates after" does not mean that there is no chance, if next Android versions don't require to much tinkering to be ported to the Pixel I think they will do it.

bafforosso said:
"No guaranteed Android version updates after" does not mean that there is no chance, if next Android versions don't require to much tinkering to be ported to the Pixel I think they will do it.
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I was thinking the same thing about "guaranteed." I found no compelling reason to move to Pixel 2. I still see nothing in Pixel 3 that makes me want to spend the money especially to guarantee bootloader unlock.

sliding_billy said:
I was thinking the same thing about "guaranteed." I found no compelling reason to move to Pixel 2. I still see nothing in Pixel 3 that makes me want to spend the money especially to guarantee bootloader unlock.
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I second that. Pixel is still kicking.

What's with the Treble thing? Do you think we could get future versions ported easily?

I purchased a Pixel second hand off eBay about 2 months ago, switch from a Samsung Galaxy S6 Active and I can say without a doubt. It out does the Galaxy without a problem. Though I miss the heartbeat monitor. It is sad to see that this powerful phone doesn't have any more Android version updates anymore but the community probably will be updating it more and more. My favorite thing about this phone I have to say is just the usability and ease or finding everything where it makes sense to find.

Keyword is "minimum" at the top. Google like Samsung and many other makers are only obligated to provide support for two years. That is all they are saying. Also, with Google having the Pixel /XL on Android P, do you really they will drop support with only a few makers with Pie? Other makers say only two year support. Most phone like this one has gotten two major Android os updates. Since this also is their first in house phone with full Google logo inside and out, I highly doubtful they will just drop support. Why even put out Android P on the pixel? They could stuck at 8.1 and not updated to P. They are keeping their phones out there viable. With most their testing of new OS on their in house phones, and it being HTC, which they now own half of, no way do I see them dropping support. Especially how close all three versions are. A few different drivers per phone, but highly used chipsets across the board. The Sailfish and Marlin still have more development than say Samsung flagships, lg flagships, and any other phones out there. Go look threw XDA. I got tired of waiting for root again on the s8 I sold that pos and got a pixel and pixel 2 xl. These phones are far from done. This pixel rooted on stock kernel still kills my old s8. Quad core vs octo core. Pixel quad smashes it.

S8rooted&tooted said:
Keyword is "minimum" at the top. Google like Samsung and many other makers are only obligated to provide support for two years. That is all they are saying. Also, with Google having the Pixel /XL on Android P, do you really they will drop support with only a few makers with Pie? Other makers say only two year support. Most phone like this one has gotten two major Android os updates. Since this also is their first in house phone with full Google logo inside and out, I highly doubtful they will just drop support. Why even put out Android P on the pixel? They could stuck at 8.1 and not updated to P. They are keeping their phones out there viable. With most their testing of new OS on their in house phones, and it being HTC, which they now own half of, no way do I see them dropping support. Especially how close all three versions are. A few different drivers per phone, but highly used chipsets across the board. The Sailfish and Marlin still have more development than say Samsung flagships, lg flagships, and any other phones out there. Go look threw XDA. I got tired of waiting for root again on the s8 I sold that pos and got a pixel and pixel 2 xl. These phones are far from done. This pixel rooted on stock kernel still kills my old s8. Quad core vs octo core. Pixel quad smashes it.
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You can always install a Custom Rom like Lineage OS to get the newest Android when Google stops updating the phone...

maddvector said:
You can always install a Custom Rom like Lineage OS to get the newest Android when Google stops updating the phone...
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Oh for sure. Lineageos rocks. Got that on old s5. Oreo on a s5. Unreal. A lot of extra features. Really got that phone for a house phone now and works great.

is possible that they will do the 'same' thing? I mean, they give new update to 'slow down' the old devices, so the current user will feel need to upgrade
even they do, we still have custom rom, which always want make our device running more fast, rite?

TENN3R said:
It's been 2 years since Google Pixel (XL) was released.
Unfortunately, this means no more major releases for these phones.
I hope the community would still be able to create some porting of next versions of Android, because the OG Pixel still rocks nowadays.
Too bad that a powerful phone like this one will only get security patches for only one year from now.
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Until we stop actually getting updates, I wouldn't worry about it. And we'll probably know before hand when that will be. Plus with Pixel 3 out we're going to get some of the software, whether Google wants us to have it or not. Night Shot with the Pixel 3 camera on my original Pixel.

November updates have been released, and..... no updates for sailfish and marlin.
Factory Images
OTA Images
Booo!!:crying:

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November updates have been released, and..... no updates for sailfish and marlin
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Unfortunately I just saw it, I'm very disappointed, Google is slowly dropping support

Does anybody else had the image quality reduced on Google Photos?
Size on phone
Size stored on Google Photos

TENN3R said:
Unfortunately I just saw it, I'm very disappointed, Google is slowly dropping support
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I doubt that. Probably an issue with the update for us.

Still rocking my OG pixel but tomorrow I am getting a battery replacement. Phone works great but watching the battery level is like watching the gas gauge on a race car... no desire to upgrade as everything else works great.

post-mortem said:
November updates have been released, and..... no updates for sailfish and marlin.
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TENN3R said:
Unfortunately I just saw it, I'm very disappointed, Google is slowly dropping support
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Until they announce they do drop sailfish Pixel, I won't worry.
Google confirms it's still working on the November update for 2016 Pixels

I have Nexus 5x with 4gigs of RAM as my second phone and it was officially updated up to 8.1. And also it is quite suitable for the pixel2 ROM port with almost all the features working without any problems. I don't see why Pixel 1 can be less capable to be updated in future at least two android versions up

This phone is amazing still now we have offical night shot I am do happy