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Android N Beta is Here

............. And we're still begging for Marshmallow!
Yep. It's already available for Nexus devices and general beta release will be available within 24 hours. http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/screen-shots-android-n-beta-nexus-6p-t3332441

We'll get Marshmallow any time now and as for N, our xda developer will handle it .

W O W ! ! !

(sorry for my poor English)
x86-64 android is a dream.
nexus player uses intel z3560 (same as z008) and ROM made by "Google" but it's still 32bit android even N preview....

That's what we get for dealing with a company that isn't generally in the mobile device market like Samsung, Motorola, LG etc.... Our devices are just unlocked phones for use with multiple carriers and there is no real incentive for ASUS to update Firmware like there is for Samsung or another major manufacturer who makes carrier specific phones.

You bought a budget phone that is actually better than most. You know what you were getting for $200 bucks so stop complaining. Let me know when you buy your $800 premium phone. Until then stop the *****ing. Thank you good night
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I don't know what all of fuss is about. This phone is simply awesome for the price. I have had mine for 9 months now and I am still satisfied with it.
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quicksilver53 said:
I don't know what all of fuss is about. This phone is simply awesome for the price. I have had mine for 9 months now and I am still satisfied with it.
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I'm honestly not satisfied with mine.
I have to resort to custom rom to fix my STOCK ROM problems, connection drops and horrible RAM management along with apps reloading even when just pressing the recents button. Hell, my LG G2 with 2gb of RAM and on 6.0 doesn't even break a sweat with the same tasks while my Zenfone 2 does even though the Zenfone 2 scores higher on benchmarks,
Custom Roms have made this phone more than usable but it shouldn't be that way, Asus's software should of been able to provide me with the necessary fixes and such that it needed.

Frankenberrie said:
You bought a budget phone that is actually better than most. You know what you were getting for $200 bucks so stop complaining. Let me know when you buy your $800 premium phone. Until then stop the *****ing. Thank you good night
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Exactly! I have zero issues with mine other than the battery drain issue but that's a Lollipop issue. Always has been.

Christopher876 said:
I'm honestly not satisfied with mine.
I have to resort to custom rom to fix my STOCK ROM problems, connection drops and horrible RAM management along with apps reloading even when just pressing the recents button. Hell, my LG G2 with 2gb of RAM and on 6.0 doesn't even break a sweat with the same tasks while my Zenfone 2 does even though the Zenfone 2 scores higher on benchmarks,
Custom Roms have made this phone more than usable but it shouldn't be that way, Asus's software should of been able to provide me with the necessary fixes and such that it needed.
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are you seriously comparing a phone that launched at $600 to a $200 phone?
as for your issues, sounds like your just finding stuff to complain about 95% of everyone else doesnt have issues. just quit being salty about your budget phone not being as fast other peoples high end phone.

Frankenberrie said:
You bought a budget phone that is actually better than most. You know what you were getting for $200 bucks so stop complaining. Let me know when you buy your $800 premium phone. Until then stop the *****ing. Thank you good night
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I bought it for 300
And mother****er ever heard of xiaomi

MikeyLee said:
That's what we get for dealing with a company that isn't generally in the mobile device market like Samsung, Motorola, LG etc.... Our devices are just unlocked phones for use with multiple carriers and there is no real incentive for ASUS to update Firmware like there is for Samsung or another major manufacturer who makes carrier specific phones.
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Makes me wonder why Samsung is just as slow as ASUS with software updates...
The actual list of devices actually released globally with android M is still very low. It is not an ASUS problem specifically.

Twotems said:
............. And we're still begging for Marshmallow!
Yep. It's already available for Nexus devices and general beta release will be available within 24 hours. http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/screen-shots-android-n-beta-nexus-6p-t3332441
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You can forget ASUS releasing Android N for ZF2 but I guess we will have CM14 sooner than we thought.

kiettv12 said:
I bought it for 300
And mother****er ever heard of xiaomi
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Indeed they update quiet often.
But for me it's not compareable due to the many changes Xiaomi does. And even MiUi 7 is based on Android 5.1.1... released 5 Months ago...
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Hudrator said:
Indeed they update quiet often.
But for me it's not compareable due to the many changes Xiaomi does. And even MiUi 7 is based on Android 5.1.1... released 5 Months ago...
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redmi note 3 or 2 less then 200 will get M soon and will get N and whatever come later
will asus give u N ?

darkmage1991 said:
are you seriously comparing a phone that launched at $600 to a $200 phone?
as for your issues, sounds like your just finding stuff to complain about 95% of everyone else doesnt have issues. just quit being salty about your budget phone not being as fast other peoples high end phone.
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Besides the point as to how much I paid for my phones.
And who are these other people? I only mentioned MY usage between my LG G2 (from 2013) and Zenfone 2.
The fact is that, the Zenfone 2 scores higher in benchmarks meaning that it should outperform my LG G2 in performance which is not doing which is a problem. It will stutter in opening Chrome and using chrome while it completely smooth on the G2.
My next points were the issues I have with cellular connection and memory management. This is just poor on the stock rom, my connection drops every time and memory is filled at startup and if I use the startup manager I won't get my notifications, Now, on the custom roms, these two issues are fixed meaning that Asus could of fixed them themselves and made me have to resort to other means of getting these issues fixed. (I don't mind using custom roms as they are normally listening to people). That is not how a product should be, it should have been fixed on their stock software and not other software.
And if you have it that it is my cellular problem, then that is false because my other 3 phones have no problem in keeping the signal.

NO issues with ZF2 with CM12.1 and CM13, just minor beta problems that's all. We should be thankful to devs who made this possible, First when I saw the Bootloader hack I was excited, to my luck CM12.1 and CM13 made even custom kernels plus multiboot also, It's almost a nexus experience isn't it ? And N's only for Nexuses, they have the src,binaries and OTAs, that will never make to the normal devices....Even making the CM properly work took enough time with src that was available with 5.0.x releases for our phones, I think we should worry more about the 64Bit MM ASUS release

kiettv12 said:
redmi note 3 or 2 less then 200 will get M soon and will get N and whatever come later
will asus give u N ?
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Soon ? Imho 6 up to 9 Months with an major update.
Xiaomi is one of the best brands regarding updates and longtime support. But there is nothing compareable at the moment. And there won't. People aren't demanding, so why should there be development? There are enough users which doesn't bother. Or buy an new device after 24 months.
N for ZF2 ?
Who knows personally I don't think so.
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Hudrator said:
Soon ? Imho 6 up to 9 Months with an major update.
Xiaomi is one of the best brands regarding updates and longtime support. But there is nothing compareable at the moment. And there won't. People aren't demanding, so why should there be development? There are enough users which doesn't bother. Or buy an new device after 24 months.
N for ZF2 ?
Who knows personally I don't think so.
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M rolled out for mi4 on jan 5 so....
The point is asus suck

still waiting for the marshmallow

ANDROID 7.0 for Oneplus X?!

Flood the comments section with OnePlus X, let's hope that it catches the eye of one of the developers! xD
http://www.xda-developers.com/which-device-do-you-want-an-android-7-0-nougat-custom-rom-on/

Isn't it too early for this thread?, The community build of marshmallow has just been released and we still have more to explore. Anyway i hope some developer may start working soon and we can taste the flavor of Nougat. CHEERS. ?

The important fact is that the OPX might never get official Nougat releases due to Qualcomm ceasing support for their 800/801 SoC (they won't be getting OpenGL ES 3.1, which is needed for official Android 7.0 releases).
This is going to impact on over 50 android smartphones.
Source: https://developer.qualcomm.com/foru...-hardware/mobile-gaming-graphics-adreno/27936

shatteringlass said:
The important fact is that the OPX might never get official Nougat releases due to Qualcomm ceasing support for their 800/801 SoC (they won't be getting OpenGL ES 3.1, which is needed for official Android 7.0 releases).
This is going to impact on over 50 android smartphones.
Source: https://developer.qualcomm.com/foru...-hardware/mobile-gaming-graphics-adreno/27936
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damn. Well, is there any way around this?

R3XER said:
Isn't it too early for this thread?, The community build of marshmallow has just been released and we still have more to explore. Anyway i hope some developer may start working soon and we can taste the flavor of Nougat. CHEERS. ?
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Well, no it's not early. We have been using Marshmallow on OnePlus X thanks to our beloved developers since a long time now. We've given up hope on OnePlus, it's all on our developers now

I don't think the news about sd 800/801 being incompatible is true, because Nexus 5 has already received a 7.0 build (alpha) and Xperia Z3 also got dev previews. Both of these are sd 800/801 devices. And also the OnePlus One:

gavisharora said:
I don't think the news about sd 800/801 being incompatible is true, because Nexus 5 has already received a 7.0 build (alpha) and Xperia Z3 also got dev previews. Both of these are sd 800/801 devices. And also the OnePlus One:
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Original post for that image?

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Not a post, my friend sent it.

yup..z3 already got N dev preview..anyway it doesnt matter if opx dont get official N if we can get CM nougat from our dev ?
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meraj99 said:
Well, no it's not early. We have been using Marshmallow on OnePlus X thanks to our beloved developers since a long time now. We've given up hope on OnePlus, it's all on our developers now
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The OP X is a phone with less a year. They should provide at least 24 months of support.
Abandoning the support isn't exactly what I (and other customers I suppose) was searching for (I bought the OPX at day one).
Letting the support to the developers isn't the solution, because the are not paid and everything they do is for free and with less instruments. All of us paid OP for supporting.
If they aren't supporting anymore OPX surely I'm not going to buy an other OP and probably neither an Android. every year we are here to reading and expecting if a phone would be upgraded to the newest version. If you buy a high end phone certanly this will get 24 months of support, but if you are going to buy a midrange, you are going to pray for some updates. All the phone makers are just making fun of us.
A comparison: iphone 4s launched in 2011 with ios 5 and its lust update was ios 9. 4 year of support!

be_are said:
yup..z3 already got N dev preview..anyway it doesnt matter if opx dont get official N if we can get CM nougat from our dev
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The only reason Z3 got developer preview is because sony n google want to test Android 7.0 on SD 800/801 powered devices
I guess their attempt ended up as a failure and so Z3 has been excluded from Sony update tree for Android 7.0

dani.galla said:
The OP X is a phone with less a year. They should provide at least 24 months of support.
Abandoning the support isn't exactly what I (and other customers I suppose) was searching for (I bought the OPX at day one).
Letting the support to the developers isn't the solution, because the are not paid and everything they do is for free and with less instruments. All of us paid OP for supporting.
If they aren't supporting anymore OPX surely I'm not going to buy an other OP and probably neither an Android. every year we are here to reading and expecting if a phone would be upgraded to the newest version. If you buy a high end phone certanly this will get 24 months of support, but if you are going to buy a midrange, you are going to pray for some updates. All the phone makers are just making fun of us.
A comparison: iphone 4s launched in 2011 with ios 5 and its lust update was ios 9. 4 year of support!
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It's not as if OnePlus is stopping support. They can't do anything since Qualcomm isn't going to update graphics drivers for SD800/801, which is necessary for Vulkan APIs, which in turn is necessary to pass Google CTS. No Google CTS = no more official update for those chipsets. So it's actually a consequence of Qualcomm's action.
The only way we'll get Nougat is in the form of custom ROMs by the hard work of devs. But again, just to be clear, none of the Nougat custom ROMs will have the Vulkan APIs, since it just isn't possible for 800/801 (afaik). That said, personally I don't really care about official updates since I've been running custom ROMs from the beginning, and I'm sure the good devs will bring us some Nougat love too

dani.galla said:
The OP X is a phone with less a year. They should provide at least 24 months of support.
Abandoning the support isn't exactly what I (and other customers I suppose) was searching for (I bought the OPX at day one).
Letting the support to the developers isn't the solution, because the are not paid and everything they do is for free and with less instruments. All of us paid OP for supporting.
If they aren't supporting anymore OPX surely I'm not going to buy an other OP and probably neither an Android. every year we are here to reading and expecting if a phone would be upgraded to the newest version. If you buy a high end phone certanly this will get 24 months of support, but if you are going to buy a midrange, you are going to pray for some updates. All the phone makers are just making fun of us.
A comparison: iphone 4s launched in 2011 with ios 5 and its lust update was ios 9. 4 year of support!
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the developers do earn money. By hosting, ads, donation, etc. :3 but yeah, OP has disappointed us

primemonitor said:
It's not as if OnePlus is stopping support. They can't do anything since Qualcomm isn't going to update graphics drivers for SD800/801, which is necessary for Vulkan APIs, which in turn is necessary to pass Google CTS. No Google CTS = no more official update for those chipsets. So it's actually a consequence of Qualcomm's action.
The only way we'll get Nougat is in the form of custom ROMs by the hard work of devs. But again, just to be clear, none of the Nougat custom ROMs will have the Vulkan APIs, since it just isn't possible for 800/801 (afaik). That said, personally I don't really care about official updates since I've been running custom ROMs from the beginning, and I'm sure the good devs will bring us some Nougat love too
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The Qualcomm story is only a justification for the OEMs, because if they want, they can force Qualcomm to update the drivers.
If the developers can make a S 800/801 working with Android N (see Nexus 5), why can't do it the OEMs?
I personally care about official updates because they can't sold us fully bugged phones and let us search for the solution.
The custom roms are a hobby, something that we like doing, but most of people even know of the existance of XDA.
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meraj99 said:
the developers do earn money. By hosting, ads, donation, etc. :3 but yeah, OP has disappointed us
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Yeah but most of them can't live with that momey. They just cover some outgoings.
Yeah I first time oneplus buyer but disappointed

dani.galla said:
The Qualcomm story is only a justification for the OEMs, because if they want, they can force Qualcomm to update the drivers.
If the developers can make a S 800/801 working with Android N (see Nexus 5), why can't do it the OEMs?
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Sure, devs can get Nougat working on 800/801 but again, they will NOT support Vulkan APIs, as I said before. Any custom ROM for 800/801 devices won't support Vulkan API, to my knowledge. And that is essential for to pass CTS, and hence for official updates.
As for OEMs, I won't claim to know if they can force Qualcomm or not. Maybe they can, and maybe they even should. That would be great for everyone definitely. But regardless, I don't think the blame (if there's any) is to be pinned on OnePlus. It's Qualcomm's refusal to update graphics drivers which will force OEMs to drop support.

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The Qualcomm story is only a justification for the OEMs, because if they want, they can force Qualcomm to update the drivers.
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Not true. Many say that Adreno 3xx (the GPU on SD800/801) simply does not have hardware support for OpenGL ES 3.1. The only possible alternative is software emulation of such hardware features (which is supposedly a very difficult goal and might expose users to buggy UX and/or to bad battery life). The original problem is OpenGL ES 3.1 (mobile library) came out in 2014, but its features are from OpenGL 4.3 and 4.4 (desktop libraries from 2012 and 2013) So its Qualcomm's fault for either not bothering with updating the 800/801 firmware or for not designing their GPUs to support the current OpenGL version at the time. In fact, ARM's 2012 GPUs support OpenGL ES 3.1 and AEP (both from 2014) and their 2013 GPUs support OpenGL ES 3.2 and Vulkan (from 2015 and 2016).

This ^^^
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I don't think the news about sd 800/801 being incompatible is true, because Nexus 5 has already received a 7.0 build (alpha) and Xperia Z3 also got dev previews. Both of these are sd 800/801 devices. And also the OnePlus One:
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I looked at a Nexus 5 ROM thread today. Lots of stuff was broken. Unless QC puts out official sources, Nougat is going to be a buggy affair for anything with an 800/1 SoC.

More news related to this :
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-7-0-snapdragon-800-801-712930/
I don't get the whole thing, but looks like its possible the problem might not be related to Vulkan. I guess we need to wait for the Android Compatibility Definition Document for Nougat to really know what the actual issue could be.

http://www.androidauthority.com/android-7-0-snapdragon-800-801-712930/

apparently, it isn't the VULKAN causing the problems. There are alternative ways around this. They just want us to buy newer devices

Welp, no Oreo update.

Kinda regret getting this phone after only 7 months of owning it...

We will see...

Yep, another big costly Chinese tibit.

*warcry scream*

1. I doubt these reps have any more of a clue about the O update for the H8 than you do. If you communicate with enough of them, I am sure one of them will give you the answer you're looking for.
2. What's the fascination with the O update anyway? Functionally, what do you want to do that O will help you with (that N and M do not)?
3. If you use the H8 as a daily driver, the need to experiment with the latest and greatest is diminished. Haven't you read the numerous posts complaining about compatibility with N, much less O? As an example, it took ages for Xposed to work with N. Many here would prefer full compatibility with Xposed vs. an O update with limited or no Xposed support.
4. There are many other threads talking about O being promised -- or not -- for the H8. Why can't posters just update one thread with their latest updates from (mostly clueless) reps?

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1. I doubt these reps have any more of a clue about the O update for the H8 than you do. If you communicate with enough of them, I am sure one of them will give you the answer you're looking for.
2. What's the fascination with the O update anyway? Functionally, what do you want to do that O will help you with (that N and M do not)?
3. If you use the H8 as a daily driver, the need to experiment with the latest and greatest is diminished. Haven't you read the numerous posts complaining about compatibility with N, much less O? As an example, it took ages for Xposed to work with N. Many here would prefer full compatibility with Xposed vs. an O update with limited or no Xposed support.
4. There are many other threads talking about O being promised -- or not -- for the H8. Why can't posters just update one thread with their latest updates from (mostly clueless) reps?
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It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy

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It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy
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Btw Honor 8 is being updated regularly every 3 months. We received the B394 on September and the B398 is already being released. Updated don't mean only Major updated

DroidMau5 said:
It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy
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Btw Honor 8 is being updated regularly every 3 months. We received the B394 on September and the B398 is already being released. Updated don't mean only Major updated
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Imho we're only talking about official upgrades, no root or xposed, so we don't really care about xposed : if you use xposed, you have rooted your phone, so you willingly excluded yourself from official upgrades.
I think a lot of us understood that 2 years updates meant 2 major android upgrades, which is not what happens, we only get very minor updates every few months.
Imho a real serious way of handling updates would be to release one with every google security patch, with no new feature and only bug fixing, security first.
And then state something about the major android upgrades, but these 2 should be separated.
But I'm dreaming in a non commercial world
And if you add a so-called partnership with XDA developers, and no real full source has been released, yes this is very disappointing.

Unfortunately Huawei is terrible with updating their previous devices. They're in it for a quick buck and move onto the next new one. All you can do is vote with your money next time and buy a Google pixel if you want updates, or an iPhone. I wouldn't expect more than 1 major os upgrade for any Huawei devices.

I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.

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I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.
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I second that. KRACK (hell, even Blueborne) is unpatched on our phones. I understand that we get "regular" updates, but seriously, an out-of-band update when serious vulnerabilities occur is not much to ask.
Not everybody can afford an iPhone, but for sure, if Huawei/Honor don't get their act together, this will be the first and the last of their devices that I will ever buy.

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I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.
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Probably, but it's still Crapple.

Bruatar said:
Unfortunately Huawei is terrible with updating their previous devices. They're in it for a quick buck and move onto the next new one. All you can do is vote with your money next time and buy a Google pixel if you want updates, or an iPhone. I wouldn't expect more than 1 major os upgrade for any Huawei devices.
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Yes, but so much advertising around XDA partnership and honor 8 beeing their new "long live" model made a lot of us buy it even if they had such reputation.
iPhone ? Never ever ! This is the opposite problem, they push too much major upgrades so your phone becomes a low performance phone.
I have an ipad2 for music creation, I recovered good performance when I rolled back from verrrrry laggggggy iOS 9 to iOS 6.

From the previous update patterns.. if your model has launched with (MM) you will get the next one(N). If your model has launched with (N), then you will get the Oreo. Period..

It depends.
Honor promised either 12 or 24 months of Major Android Updates. Honor has delivered in the past like my Honor 4C got two major Android updates Lollipop and Marshmallow. I believe we should get Oreo since it is extremely healthy for the development community. If Honor delivers Oreo with Treble Support, there's a high chance of getting a fully functional bulges custom ROMs for the device.

From my previous experiences with Huawei devices i noticed that they only receive 1 major update during their lifetime. Even flagships. That was true with Ascend P7 (4.2.2.-->5.1.1), P8 (5.1.1-->6.0) and now the same with Honor 8. Huawei does not even bother with intermediate OS updates like 7.0.2 and 7.1.1
It was released with 6.0, now it has 7.0, so ... that's it.

Well, the Honor 6X was released only two months after the 8 with 6.0 too and it has Oreo planned. It doesn't make sense for Honor to ditch 8 for 6X. Let's wait and see.

Those are not official. Someone in these forums got replied to an email that Honor 8 will get a closed beta for it soon. That person is not official Honor and is therefore fake.

Yup the xda partnerships that honor/Huawei touts everytime ar sooooooooooooooooo fake its laughable.

xdmusicbx said:
Well, the Honor 6X was released only two months after the 8 with 6.0 too and it has Oreo planned. It doesn't make sense for Honor to ditch 8 for 6X. Let's wait and see.
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The customer support is now saying that even the Honor 6X isn't going to recieve the Oreo update.
She did mention that despite it hasn't been announced we shouldn't lose hope since it still isn't CONFIRMED. She also mentioned that we will continue recieving security patches which honestly is more that enough for me......
I've tried Oreo on my Nexus 5X and if anything it made the device slower and doesn't have any new changes or features apart from the password filling in apps or the updated Bluetooth codec.
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Mi A1 android 8.1?? May 5,2018

Why Xiaomi Mi A1 still not on android 8.1? Xiaomi should have a voice for Google to solve the user, or just a few should also be the direction of choice for users such as creating a MIUI version for Mi A1, because whether GG has the software development, But Xiaomi understands most of his products.

U bought mi a1 because of stock Android, if u want MIUI u should have bought a mi 5x

I was wrong to buy xiaomi mi a1. But xiaomi should also give the user the MIUI option on Mi A1. Google will abandon Mia1 ?

godinsideme said:
I was wrong to buy xiaomi mi a1. But xiaomi should also give the user the MIUI option on Mi A1. Google will abandon Mia1 ?
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You don't know what you are talking about.
Think before you write.
Think before you buy.
Think before opening redundant threads.
Take care!

This is the worst community I've stumbled across, and I've been long time xda member...Are you people real? Why do you want 8.1 update so bad, it's nothing major except few not so important features. There is a leaked 8.1 available at xda so we can expect 8.1 on our devices soon, maybe next month. That leaked version has some bugs, so when they fix them we will receive 8.1
You want fastest updates? Buy Pixel or use Custom ROMs and stop ruining community with same nonsense again and again.

If you want 8.1 so bad you can flash latest leaked version, I'm using it and have 0 problems with it, it's my daily driver untill official comes.
Sent from my Red Mi A1

marko.dnb said:
This is the worst community I've stumbled across, and I've been long time xda member...Are you people real? Why do you want 8.1 update so bad, it's nothing major except few not so important features. There is a leaked 8.1 available at xda so we can expect 8.1 on our devices soon, maybe next month. That leaked version has some bugs, so when they fix them we will receive 8.1
You want fastest updates? Buy Pixel or use Custom ROMs and stop ruining community with same nonsense again and again.
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I don't have bugs, i'm usin' it

Itemt said:
I don't have bugs, i'm usin' it
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Read somewhere like stock camera not working with some other small things that do not affect daily usage. Gcam works without a problem.

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Read somewhere like stock camera not working with some other small things that do not affect daily usage. Gcam works without a problem.
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marko.dnb said:
Read somewhere like stock camera not working with some other small things that do not affect daily usage. Gcam works without a problem.
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Stock camera works perfectly on leaked 8.1 rom.
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Never really understood why its so important to have the latest software. You can run android 5.1 and still have support for basically all software. Anything after lollipop basically looks and works the same. And miui is being ported.

Me, for example, I would buy Mi5X, but it is not available in my country and doesnt have LTE freqs for me, so I bought MiA1, but I am sad about the device. I would love to have stable MIUI on this device.
I would love this device, but battery life is just sad, Google apps use so much battery, especially Photos, they used 15% in 30 mins (and I was just staring at one picture, it wasnt even syncing, it was just idle).

JakobSWE said:
Never really understood why its so important to have the latest software. You can run android 5.1 and still have support for basically all software. Anything after lollipop basically looks and works the same. And miui is being ported.
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You have right still use my mx4 pro(flyme 4.2 as alternative music player with android 4.4.4 with proper dirac support and maybe better sounding than most phones . Most applications of google playstore work.it got also android 5 (flyme 6 ) but audio decreases quality and no dirac

kutulu32 said:
You have right still use my mx4 pro(flyme 4.2 as alternative music player with android 4.4.4 with proper dirac support and maybe better sounding than most phones . Most applications of google playstore work.it got also android 5 (flyme 6 ) but audio decreases quality and no dirac
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Well, I suffer some bugs at the current state of our stock ROM. Camera has a lot of flickering, battery life not that good and I also got issues with deep sleep when device doesn't sleep at all when it is locked and I dont even have almost any app installed... not sure if Oreo 8.1 will fix it, but I hope that Android P will and will also bring bigger support for our dual camera setup.

Cheap phone means cheap people....
Many of those people complaining are just young baby crying for having things when they want
MiA1 is up to date looking other Android one phone
Xiaomi is working on it we have the may security patch and a 8.1 beta build !
Why those people are complaining ? The phone is working great it have a damn good battery, good camera, CPU, ram etc....
200€ for this is great deal and my previous phone was a 500€ Nexus 6
For the price I have nothing to complain about

Dead-neM said:
Cheap phone means cheap people....
Many of those people complaining are just young baby crying for having things when they want
MiA1 is up to date looking other Android one phone
Xiaomi is working on it we have the may security patch and a 8.1 beta build !
Why those people are complaining ? The phone is working great it have a damn good battery, good camera, CPU, ram etc....
200€ for this is great deal and my previous phone was a 500€ Nexus 6
For the price I have nothing to complain about
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And we've got a great and healthy development community, and that's awesome. If you want MIUI so badly, buy something else like the Redmi Note 4 or the Mi 5X.

Dead-neM said:
Cheap phone means cheap people....
Many of those people complaining are just young baby crying for having things when they want
MiA1 is up to date looking other Android one phone
Xiaomi is working on it we have the may security patch and a 8.1 beta build !
Why those people are complaining ? The phone is working great it have a damn good battery, good camera, CPU, ram etc....
200€ for this is great deal and my previous phone was a 500€ Nexus 6
For the price I have nothing to complain about
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Actually the thing is their is too much competition in Asian market, and particularly in India the price of the phone is about ₹15K, a price band where most of Indian buy phones, So competition is tough and we have good alternative available in market unlike Western Market. Maybe €200 is not big amt. In your country, but is is big amount in India. And no one had forced Xiaomi to price it lower, they were free to do that, they priced low its their problem now. Nokia 5 Runs 8.1( almost same price) and we also except same as we also Purchased Android One device. Anyways it coming next month anyways.:angel::angel:

Ritik99 said:
Actually the thing is their is too much competition in Asian market, and particularly in India the price of the phone is about ₹15K, a price band where most of Indian buy phones, So competition is tough and we have good alternative available in market unlike Western Market. Maybe €200 is not big amt. In your country, but is is big amount in India. And no one had forced Xiaomi to price it lower, they were free to do that, they priced low its their problem now. Nokia 5 Runs 8.1( almost same price) and we also except same as we also Purchased Android One device. Anyways it coming next month anyways.:angel::angel:
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Dude... Nokia 5 specs cannot be compared with mi a1. If they share the same price so mi a1 is way better in terms of value for money. Considering we have the latest OS from google (oreo), receive monthly security patches, have a beta build with 8.1 (which is not a big deal since we already have oreo and it's very stable with minimal bugs) and have these powerful specs and build quality then good job Xiaomi.
Stop crying about 8.1.. seriously this is getting ridiculous.

Ahmed Kassem said:
Dude... Nokia 5 specs cannot be compared with mi a1. If they share the same price so mi a1 is way better in terms of value for money. Considering we have the latest OS from google (oreo), receive monthly security patches, have a beta build with 8.1 (which is not a big deal since we already have oreo and it's very stable with minimal bugs) and have these powerful specs and build quality then good job Xiaomi.
Stop crying about 8.1.. seriously this is getting ridiculous.
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Don't make it what you want to make of it. People keep saying that you have to buy pixel for fast updates, or they give pricing a reason for this. I am just telling them that Nokia gives updates much faster to even the mid range phones. Just telling them that price excuse is lame
Their are bugs believe it or not, charging time has increased from April Patch, the phone becomes like a fireball in hand even when I play PUBG on minimum graphic within one round, And the biggest problem is that the Moderator of their Community, even doesn't reply to these if you post it their, communication is a big problem from Xiaomi's side from starting. People keep asking for 8.1, but AFAIK they give a expected release date, A expected release date will actually close mouth of all such people who keep spaming these threads.

Oxygen OS updates

When I was considering buying a Oneplus 1+8 pro I was being told by YT influencers and media that if you like clean and good OS with frequent updates and longterm support that Oneplus is the way to go.
It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
Am I the only one having a problem with that fact?
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There are monthly updates, we have to wait for android 11 like everyone else.
Use Oxygen updater or look here: https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-8-pro-update-1108368/

doctor78SI said:
It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
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1st - OB2 is like 3 weeks old, not 4 months. Hope you don't expect Stable A11 days after Pixels.
2nd - if you believe YT influencers, then I wish you good luck.
3rd - security updates are spot on.
4th - I use OB2 since the release day and have no complains. Eventually high battery use of Google Play Store app. Nothing crazy.

]1st - I was referring to stable A10. Latest update was released Aug 15, 2020. So not 4 months but 2. Still long time ago.
2nd -I cannot establish my own opinion since I have no chance to see these phones in person before purchase. Also this is nowadays normal and best way to buy stuff.
3rd - No they are not. The latest stable version is on August security patch. We are now in the middle of October. Even Samsung is pushing that as we speak.
4th - I use my phone for work so no I will not run beta SW on it.

Samsung are better with security updates, but oneplus will get android 11 first

No complaints with 8 Pro updates this year...

doctor78SI said:
When I was considering buying a Oneplus 1+8 pro I was being told by YT influencers and media that if you like clean and good OS with frequent updates and longterm support that Oneplus is the way to go.
It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
Am I the only one having a problem with that fact?
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First off. Don't listen to YouTubers, and influencers, I think I would poke someone in the eye of they told me that's what they did for a job..
OnePlus absolutely smashes the other OEM's in regards to updates, Huawei, old HTC, Sammy, LG, Sony, sorry but none of them come close .
Pixel? Sure that's the source, but the shortcomings Vs pixel on the OnePlus, it makes up for with a bigger battery and IMHO a better Dev community and a course matched beta program.
You can't go wrong with OnePlus tbh.

dladz said:
First off. Don't listen to YouTubers, and influencers, I think I would poke someone in the eye of they told me that's what they did for a job..
OnePlus absolutely smashes the other OEM's in regards to updates, Huawei, old HTC, Sammy, LG, Sony, sorry but none of them come close .
Pixel? Sure that's the source, but the shortcomings Vs pixel on the OnePlus, it makes up for with a bigger battery and IMHO a better Dev community and a course matched beta program.
You can't go wrong with OnePlus tbh.
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Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.

doctor78SI said:
Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.
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12 updates in 6 months is pretty good stats. Small or not. I have had all other brands and came back to OnePlus (I had the 6T as well). Even stock, it is a great OS. But, everyone has their own opinion.

doctor78SI said:
Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.
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No foundations? Perhaps the fact that OnePlus actually release stable OS' in a timely manner with very little need to change anything, OOS is an extremely stable and fast skin for Android..very light too.
Security update comes out OnePlus gets it... new OS in development, we get it early.....to what OEM are you referring?
Huawei does not offer this speed nor does it offer a beta program like this, Samsung didn't either if memory serves, Sony was pitiful and splintered (as was Huawei (due to device variants /regions) LG (do people still buy these types of phones? Motorola (budget phone not in the same league)
I've had a lot of phones so I have some experience here, this is a public forum, you can take my advice or you can move on, what I won't do is try to convince you against something you appear to have an agenda towards, personally I can say without prejudice or bias that the OnePlus 8 pro is the best phone on the market right now, very few people would argue that point.
Updates are on point, end of story.
A good OEM won't release huge updates because they have nothing to fix, meaning it was done right the first time, a bad OEM will do the opposite, like Samsung releasing a £1500 phone with a camera that won't focus.
Oh wow just saw your end of post, you compared an android device to apple.
Oh dear.
Tell me can you Bluetooth files yet? Is apple still crippling it's OS due to an "update" ?
Don't compare any android device to apple you'll get very little sympathy here in that regard.
Samsung? Really? Exynos processor in the non US variants? And you're supporting them? Anyone who likes android or has an ounce of respect for themselves would boycott them and sign the petition to get Snapdragon in all their phones..
I wouldn't swap my OnePlus if you offered me both the iPhone XS and the ultra.
Lastly I and the absolute vast majority of people have not and do not have any issue with our OnePlus phone.
Fastest phone out not.
Battery life? I get 10 hours SOT consistently, even when gaming.
What issues are you referring to? If it's green tint (see above)