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[Q] android 4.4 bluetooth problem

NEXUS 4,ANDROID 4.4 16S & 16O,Plantronics savor M1100 bluetooth headset or jabra bluetooth headset.Often disconnected during a call.Very high frequency,But 4.3 have not problem.What is the problem?
Find a temporary solution, as long as open WIFI, Bluetooth will be disconnected, closed WIFI, Bluetooth never broken! Currently only so used!
Final, to find a solution, just need to turn off WIFI 5G. Settings - WIFI - Advanced - Wi-Fi frequency band - 2.4GHz only ,ALL OK

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I will second you on the Bluetooth issue. I've noticed it with my car, where I usually spend some time on a call or two. It seems intermittent for me, usually starting after about 1 minute and then randomly disconnecting. Either the phone or the car BT will then reconnect, but it'll disconnect again within one to two minutes. Music streaming isn't affected by dropouts, but I have noticed some minor issues with it, such as stuttering.

Android 4.4 Kit Kat, Bluetooth issues
motokochan said:
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I will second you on the Bluetooth issue. I've noticed it with my car, where I usually spend some time on a call or two. It seems intermittent for me, usually starting after about 1 minute and then randomly disconnecting. Either the phone or the car BT will then reconnect, but it'll disconnect again within one to two minutes. Music streaming isn't affected by dropouts, but I have noticed some minor issues with it, such as stuttering.
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I also have the same issue after 4.4 install. Using Nexus 4. I have contacted google, and as expected they can't help!
Sound is very crackly when making calls from my car.. :crying:

Well, let's see if we can't collectively determine what the problem is and at the least submit a good bug report to Google. The first thing I'm going to do is try to reproduce the issue with a standard bluetooth headset. If the problems happens there, I'll then run adb logcat and see if I can grab a log of any error messages.
I encourage anyone else having this problem to do the same and report back on this topic.
Also, to see if it's isolated to specific cars or something, I experience the issue with a 2011 Mazda 3. What is everyone else using?

motokochan said:
Well, let's see if we can't collectively determine what the problem is and at the least submit a good bug report to Google. The first thing I'm going to do is try to reproduce the issue with a standard bluetooth headset. If the problems happens there, I'll then run adb logcat and see if I can grab a log of any error messages.
I encourage anyone else having this problem to do the same and report back on this topic.
Also, to see if it's isolated to specific cars or something, I experience the issue with a 2011 Mazda 3. What is everyone else using?
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My headset is Plantronics savor M1100 & Jebra BT2010,Same problem.

I am experiencing the same issue with my Alpine CDE-136BT. Running krt16s.
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Also, to get some extra data, please indicate if you upgraded via official OTA, factory image, or some other method. Also, please say if you did a factory reset or if you did not.
In my case, I saw this using the old 16O factory image (no reset) and also with the 16S OTA from 66Y (4.3), no reset again.

Also worth noting if you have WiFi on and if it's pulling data at the same time...
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In the car I don't get any problems with quality and/or stuttering, but the BT volume control doesn't seem to work
Also, the 'volume' sent to my car is very low, causing me to control the volume by the car (and putting it very loud)
I didn't try it with a call yet, just music, I'm going to try a call when I get the chance
Here, I'm using the factory image KRT16O, did a clean flash, and the car is a 2013 ford focus

I had the same problem on 4.4 ROMs that don't have the proper Nexus 4 libraries. I switched ROMs, and my problem is gone.
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kakabartz said:
but the BT volume control doesn't seem to work
Also, the 'volume' sent to my car is very low, causing me to control the volume by the car (and putting it very loud)
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Volume seems to still be independent between the headset and the phone. When in a call, use the phone volume keys to raise the volume to near max (I usually put it two presses down from max) and use the car/headset volume to further adjust as needed. Same way with music.
trackmastersteve said:
I had the same problem on 4.4 ROMs that don't have the proper Nexus 4 libraries. I switched ROMs, and my problem is gone.
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That would be a good option except some people will actually want to be on stock. I would hope Google has the proper libraries for the stock KRT16S factory images and OTA files.

motokochan said:
Volume seems to still be independent between the headset and the phone. When in a call, use the phone volume keys to raise the volume to near max (I usually put it two presses down from max) and use the car/headset volume to further adjust as needed. Same way with music.
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Yes, thats how it is supposed to work, but I actually can't control the volume at the device at all
Leaving it in the max or the minimum sends the same volume to the car, and its very low
All my other android devices work properly, so its something with my nexus

motokochan said:
Also, to get some extra data, please indicate if you upgraded via official OTA, factory image, or some other method. Also, please say if you did a factory reset or if you did not.
In my case, I saw this using the old 16O factory image (no reset) and also with the 16S OTA from 66Y (4.3), no reset again.
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16O is full factory image,all clear,two wipe,16S too.not OTA

Definitely a 4.4 bluetooth problem
motokochan said:
Also, to get some extra data, please indicate if you upgraded via official OTA, factory image, or some other method. Also, please say if you did a factory reset or if you did not.
In my case, I saw this using the old 16O factory image (no reset) and also with the 16S OTA from 66Y (4.3), no reset again.
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I am using TMo OTA image on a Nexus 4. Was rock solid on car connection (Nissan Leaf) until 4.4. My wife's Samsung Galaxy S3 is not on 4.4 and still works great. Problem for me is exactly as described earlier, 1-2 minutes connected then intermittently cutting out so bad it is unusable as a bluetooth connection. Show stopper.

Tested today using a Morotola Elite Flip BT headset and also with my car (while hooked up and logging via adb) while in the garage. I could not reproduce the issue after over 10 minutes of talk. We'll see how it does on an actual drive tomorrow.
climber_paul said:
Problem for me is exactly as described earlier, 1-2 minutes connected then intermittently cutting out so bad it is unusable as a bluetooth connection. Show stopper.
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Yep, that's what I was seeing. Hopefully someone will be able to get to the bottom of this. If you don't mind taking a laptop into your car, try using it while stationary and grabbing the log output from adb. If the issue occurs, there might be something in the log that can help diagnose the problem.

linkabc said:
NEXUS 4,ANDROID 4.4 16S & 16O,Plantronics savor M1100 bluetooth headset or jabra bluetooth headset.Often disconnected during a call.Very high frequency,But 4.3 have not problem.What is the problem?
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I think I'm seeing more problems when using Bluetooth at the same time as WiFi is pulling data on it's 2.4Ghz setting (same band as Bluetooth). Can those with Bluetooth issues confirm they persist with WiFi disabled?

same intermittent bluetooth dropout
I wiped my phone before installing 4.4 factory image (16S).
I'm seeing phone bluetooth connection with car drop and reconnect about every 2 to 3 min. while in call. No problem with bluetooth media streaming.

jkang29 said:
I wiped my phone before installing 4.4 factory image (16S).
I'm seeing phone bluetooth connection with car drop and reconnect about every 2 to 3 min. while in call. No problem with bluetooth media streaming.
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Same problem here. Never had it on 4.3. Currently solved it by using old (from 4.3) bootloader and 0.84 radio.
Took this tip from other thread on XDA.
I also disable wifi when on call (using tasker) - but this along do not solve the disconnect/connect issue. However, this will fix the
call interference in the first 5-10 sec of the call.
Can somehow bootloader and/or radio affect this issue ?
BTW, on 4.4 I finally have stable 5 GHz WiFi connection. So Google definetly fixed something in WiFi code which can now create an issue with the Bluetooth.

Nexus 4 - 4.4
I also experience the stutter when listening to bluetooth headphones, only since the update, 4.3 worked beautifully. It stutters any time I unlock the phone or lock it, very annoying. I'm using Bludio R's, although from what I've read most people are experiencing it regardless of BT type.
Edit: For anyone else experiencing the stuttering; I found a link on the google support where someone else had this issue. Someone mentioned it went away if you turn the screen lock sound off. Haven't had a chance to test as I have no BT headsets in the office, but thought I'd share.

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Sound issue fixed for me

Greetings,
After spending a lot of time trying to find why the sounds coming through the ear speaker i connected the headset that came with the phone and when i connected it pop up on notification the music on the go ,i hit on it and i configure it. When i connect the head set to pause music and go to dialer for example and when disconnected it to pause music and go to home screen.
After that , i unplugged it and finally the sounds coming through speaker.
I hope that will help others also.
Cheers
Vatis

I've been wanting to try the new update but the sound issue is a major deterrent.
However after reading through all the posts it may be a problem with smat connect misbehaving. Some people have found removing smart connect fixed it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51445037&postcount=69).
Seeing as this may be a solution I think I'll upgrade later today and then try this solution if I encounter the same problem.
Maybe more people can try this or if they have post what the result was?

no wonder when i enable back smart connect yesterday, this problem happen.
when i 1st install 4.4, i all the way disable smart connect, so didnt encounter this.

Reading all the posts about the sound issue i tried the easiest solution, uninstalled all the updates of Chrome (i used the most recent version), finally deactivated Chrome itself (using Dolphin now...)
No more sound sound problem since then.
I am not using Smart Connect at all.

fl4r3 said:
I've been wanting to try the new update but the sound issue is a major deterrent.
However after reading through all the posts it may be a problem with smat connect misbehaving. Some people have found removing smart connect fixed it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51445037&postcount=69).
Seeing as this may be a solution I think I'll upgrade later today and then try this solution if I encounter the same problem.
Maybe more people can try this or if they have post what the result was?
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I can confirm that deactivating smart connect is fixing the sound issue.
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vatis24 said:
Greetings,
After spending a lot of time trying to find why the sounds coming through the ear speaker i connected the headset that came with the phone and when i connected it pop up on notification the music on the go ,i hit on it and i configure it. When i connect the head set to pause music and go to dialer for example and when disconnected it to pause music and go to home screen.
After that , i unplugged it and finally the sounds coming through speaker.
I hope that will help others also.
Cheers
Vatis
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After i installed smartkey from play store, my sound is normal thanks

knudsen81 said:
After i installed smartkey from play store, my sound is normal thanks
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Now that's a random solution
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negrobembon said:
Now that's a random solution
Sent from my C6906 using Tapatalk
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After i put in headset smart connect said to install smartkey and after setup my sound was okay
Sendt fra min C6903 med Tapatalk

Just finished updating to kitkat via USB pc companion, no sound issues so far.
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chunlianghere said:
no wonder when i enable back smart connect yesterday, this problem happen.
when i 1st install 4.4, i all the way disable smart connect, so didnt encounter this.
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axantas said:
Reading all the posts about the sound issue i tried the easiest solution, uninstalled all the updates of Chrome (i used the most recent version), finally deactivated Chrome itself (using Dolphin now...)
No more sound sound problem since then.
I am not using Smart Connect at all.
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Thechiller86 said:
I can confirm that deactivating smart connect is fixing the sound issue.
Sent from my C6903 using xda app-developers app
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The first thing i ever do in a rom is delete useless apps including chrome and smart connect.
And I am still having this problem almost daily. Pluging the headset playing something and disconnecting somehow helps.

I had the issue too, even after hard reseting and refreshing stock rom multiple times. The first thing I do is disable apps that I do not use and smart connect is one of them. I kept having the issue even with both chrome and smart connect disabled so I went back to 4.3
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6.0.1 Bluetooth issue fix?

Hey guys,
this new android related issue where streaming music via bluetooth is a pain in the ass, as there are only two volume levels (absolutely loud and the opposite) is really annoying.
Is there any statement from google, if and when it'll be fixed or is there even a fix already?
I cannot imagine how sth like this got into a final release...

Stream every single day on a 45 minute commute via GPM and Spotify (Bluetooth to car) and never encountered this... Seems odd. I'll keep an eye out but haven't seen it yet!
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Delboyd12 said:
Stream every single day on a 45 minute commute via GPM and Spotify (Bluetooth to car) and never encountered this... Seems odd. I'll keep an eye out but haven't seen it yet!
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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is a common issue with 6.0.1 and several bluetooth devices (i have a creative roar box), just search the forums here.

I'm usually ok with blue tooth streaming to my car as well as to my Polaris speaker. No issue with my Huawei watch either that I'm aware of.
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I'm having a ton of bluetooth issues with this phone sad as I *love* this phone..
But I listen to podcasts daily (while biking/running./in the car) and it keeps cutting out on me.. like 2-3 times/minute.. that's using the bluetooth in-car, as well as two different bluetooth headsets
BTW phone calls are fine - this is just A2DP bluetooth stereo..
on 6.0.1 stock (rooted)
-mark
Edit - seems worse when I'm near my wifi router; although still having issues w/ wifi off..

I had some issues with bluetooth audio cutting out after the phone had been sitting for a while. I added the media apps (music, youtube) to the not optimized list under battery settings and now it works fine.

stream every day from google music app to my vw golfs system via bluetooth and never cut out once or had any issues. Im stock non rooted 6.0.1

It's a wide issue have a look here https://code.google.com/p/android/i...ry Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=189188#makechanges for the people who are having the issue make a comment and Hit the star so Google understands what's going on as they have it as a low priority

Heinous said:
I had some issues with bluetooth audio cutting out after the phone had been sitting for a while. I added the media apps (music, youtube) to the not optimized list under battery settings and now it works fine.
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I'm going to try your suggestion here... This is infuriating as I dig the phone so far (mostly).

Grumpy Bob said:
I'm going to try your suggestion here... This is infuriating as I dig the phone so far (mostly).
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Good luck.

Heinous said:
Good luck.
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No joy. I did your suggestion in conjunction with a few others and I'm still getting audio hits. Did the following to no avail:
- Uninstalled an app called "gasbuddy" which has been reportedly giving users issues with BT
- Messed with a few settings in Developer Options
- Cleared Cache
Did those listed above plus your suggestion and it still doesn't work properly. The only thing that is (albeit moderately) reliable is to completely unpair, forget device, repair, and update permissions. How frustrating every time I get in the car. Additionally, I've been getting SERIOUS BT phone problems. The caller on the line cannot hear me nearly at all. It's not my car's BT unit either, as I've troubleshooted with other phones. I have to switch to handset speakerphone. I feel like I'm in the 90s again. I'm massively bummed out since I spend a lengthy portion of time in my morning/evening commutes. BT is the one thing I can't do without. What a drag.

Grumpy Bob said:
No joy.
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Does it work with other Bluetooth devices, or do you have other phones to test in your car? Might be an issue with the car or even something google/hauwei can fix under warranty.

Heinous said:
Does it work with other Bluetooth devices, or do you have other phones to test in your car? Might be an issue with the car or even something google/hauwei can fix under warranty.
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Thanks for the reply but yeah that's what I meant when I said - "as I've troubleshooted with other phones."...
As to your other point, this is actually my second 6p. I RMA'd one a few weeks back for the same issue - I thought the same thing.
So frustrating. Like nailing jell-o to the wall.

I found what was causing my Bluetooth issues with my Chevy Malibu. The app weather bug was messing with my phone Bluetooth and battery drain. After I deleted the app my Bluetooth works fine and my phone now sleeps with doze correctly...
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cables2590 said:
I found what was causing my Bluetooth issues with my Chevy Malibu. The app weather bug was messing with my phone Bluetooth and battery drain. After I deleted the app my Bluetooth works fine and my phone now sleeps with doze correctly...
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I was having the same issue, both with BT headphones, BT speaker, and my Android Wear watch. I tried factory resets on both phone and watch, and forgetting all BT connections and re-pairing to no avail. I Factory reset my phone again, and didn't add my Amber Weather Widget back to my home screen and all was well. As soon as I added it...Bt went to hell again. Deleted the app and now I'm having no problems. Not sure why a weather app would cause BT to act up, but it sure did in my case.

Uuuh. This is ultra frustrating. Using my smartphone for business and private stuff, so it has to re reliable. Hearing music is a pain in the ass, really. Doesn´t matter if I connect it to my Bose Soundlink Mini, my Philips NFC/Bluetooth Dongle...interruptions all over the place.
BTW: I don´t have any weather widget installed, so I have absolutely no clue what to try next. Delete all paired devices is a no go, really.
PS: And it´s not only interruptions - music kind of gains speed after those interruptions.

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No joy. I did your suggestion in conjunction with a few others and I'm still getting audio hits. Did the following to no avail:
- Uninstalled an app called "gasbuddy" which has been reportedly giving users issues with BT
- Messed with a few settings in Developer Options
- Cleared Cache
Did those listed above plus your suggestion and it still doesn't work properly. The only thing that is (albeit moderately) reliable is to completely unpair, forget device, repair, and update permissions. How frustrating every time I get in the car. Additionally, I've been getting SERIOUS BT phone problems. The caller on the line cannot hear me nearly at all. It's not my car's BT unit either, as I've troubleshooted with other phones. I have to switch to handset speakerphone. I feel like I'm in the 90s again. I'm massively bummed out since I spend a lengthy portion of time in my morning/evening commutes. BT is the one thing I can't do without. What a drag.
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Yep,I have the same exact issue with phone calls, the caller cannot hear me at all and I switch to speaker. This is my second phone and they both did the same thing, connects, fine for a few seconds, then gets muted or something and have to switch to speaker. My notes never did this and it's super making me mad! I'm going to call google and try to return this phone. It's BT totally broken.

I might be giving up on the phone very soon. I'm bummed. I really dig it, but BT is such a HUGE part of my life at this point that it's impossible for me to own a phone that falters in that respect. Ugh. How disappointing.
I even signed up for the new Android N beta testing, hoping that would remedy the situation. Nope.

Bluetooth Problems! Please help!!

Lately, I am facing this terrible Bluetooth problem on my s6e+. All my devices are dropping connections even if the phone is in my pocket.
My Bluetooth earphones would disconnect if I keep my phone in either pockets but would work fine 10 feet away from laptop.
My Moto360 keeps dropping connection, vibrating constantly which makes me think I received notification and makes me go crazy!
I thought I had problems with Android wear so I resetted my watch, removed android wear app and reinstalled, paired again.
Still problem was there so I tried headphones to confirm the problem is with phone. I tried unpairing all devices, clearing cache.
Does anyone have solution other than wiping system. That is the last thing I want to do.
I am on stock 5.1.1 unrooted. TIA
EDIT: I wiped/Factory reset my phone. Still the problem persists. I am starting to believe it as hardware problem.
UPDATE: Samsung replaced main board and Bluetooth problem is solved now!

Twop Months ago i have the same problem and let say is Hadware problem, in my case i send to samsung and they change the logic board

I had similar issue before and suspected the hardware but after I updated to MM no more issue with my Zen watch 2
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I got the same problem after the latest update

tuespazio said:
Twop Months ago i have the same problem and let say is Hadware problem, in my case i send to samsung and they change the logic board
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Did that problem started after few months ? My bluetooth was working fine until last 10 days.
Zenroid said:
I had similar issue before and suspected the hardware but after I updated to MM no more issue with my Zen watch 2
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I am still waiting for MM update, on TMOB :/
Ollie01 said:
I got the same problem after the latest update
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Were you able to solve it anyhow? I haven't received any updates since I bought the phone.

No, it's still happening

I had similar problems, was losing connection to my card obd II dongle and my car audio system.. resolved with the MM update

I am on Tmob so I haven't received the MM update. It would take atleast a month and I am not sure if that will work 100%. So I sent my phone to service center. Will update when I get their response for this issue.

Yes happen after 5 months one day my pebble watch start to disconnecting and then my car radio.

tuespazio said:
Yes happen after 5 months one day my pebble watch start to disconnecting and then my car radio.
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Somethink disabled in Package Disabler Pro ?

Audio cutting out more and more frequently since last update.

Anyone else getting their audio cut out? Before the latest update my phone was pretty flawless. Now certain apps the audio cuts out. Then cuts back in and sound likes it struggles to stay on then cuts back out. Now this just happened to a Facebook video I was watching. This never happened before. I'm not using head phones and I haven't tried using them this is happening to the phones speaker.
Is Sammy aware of this issue?

cldbld said:
Anyone else getting their audio cut out? Before the latest update my phone was pretty flawless. Now certain apps the audio cuts out. Then cuts back in and sound likes it struggles to stay on then cuts back out. Now this just happened to a Facebook video I was watching. This never happened before. I'm not using head phones and I haven't tried using them this is happening to the phones speaker.
Is Sammy aware of this issue?
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Factory reset, I had camera problems after the lastest update. It would FC on pro mode and had to be rebooted for the camera to work again. It's a pain, but it works.

g1-and-only said:
Factory reset, I had camera problems after the lastest update. It would FC on pro mode and had to be rebooted for the camera to work again. It's a pain, but it works.
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Was gonna be my last resort, but I'll give it a go when I get off work. I'll report back. Thanks bud

cldbld said:
Was gonna be my last resort, but I'll give it a go when I get off work. I'll report back. Thanks bud
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No problem

i've had this problem. I reset and it went away then came back after a software update. I would love to know what that update did and how to roll back

Well I'm back, and I got some bad news.
I did an hard reset, (went into recovery and deleted cache as well etc)
The 1st day it was fine. And now just a few hours ago, it started again. It's really bugging the he'll out of me.
This has to be software related. My phone was flawless before this last update.
As I type this my keyboard stopped making sounds.
Contacted samsung about the issue.

Did it happen with headphones or the speaker or both?
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Richieboy67 said:
Did it happen with headphones or the speaker or both?
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It's been happening with the phones speaker. Haven't replicated the issue with headphones, then again I rarely use them on the phone.
Right now I have full sound, but eventually it will cut out, come back cut out rinse and repeat.
No issues before the latest update.

no problems here
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Having the same issue on my AT&T Galaxy S7. It doesn't happen on Bluetooth, and I haven't noticed with headphones, but it cuts out all the time through the speakers. It'd be nice to find a solution to this issue for it is causing several issues such as the sound cutting out during my alarm going off for work. Ended up an hour late due to the issue. ?

Anyone find a true resolution. I've read many articles and still no luck. Factory wipe, partition wipe, safe mode, developer mode.. I've tried it all

I share your pain. I have the same problems too.
When I try to use the phone for a conference call, the volume drops but they can hear me. When I am listening to YouTube, the volume drops. When I try to use the phone in Speaker mode, the volume drops too. No Fix and very discouraged.

Solved!!!!
I had this problem!!!
But i solved this
Go to Settings> Advanced features and Disable Easy mute
If this worked for you please reply...
Mohammad Rahimi @MO7AMMADrahimi from IRAN

RNBU said:
I had this problem!!!
But i solved this
Go to Settings> Advanced features and Disable Easy mute
If this worked for you please reply...
Mohammad Rahimi @MO7AMMADrahimi from IRAN
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Where is the settings in german ? I am fuuuuucked up because this annoying bug appeared .

Useless programmers
If it's not broke, update it until it is.
LG V20 - No "Easy Mute" feature found. Nothing found. I am a music developer and accurate and WORKING audio is my livelihood. Very fu&&ckin IRATE. Stupid software developers need to go back to hacker school and save real programming for professionals. Now we have to go back to a effing Ipod? CDs? Vinyl?