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Battery drain issues

The only working solution for now: flash Lollipop. It's not perfect but it heats and drains battery much less than Marshmallow.
I'm creating this thread so that we can discuss battery life issues and look for a solution.
There is a popular thread on this topic but it is marked as solved, and while the original poster's issue has been solved there are many others that remain.
For some people the issue was solved when rootkernel was updated to fix some bug. But that was a long time ago, and some bugs are obviously present even in the latest kernels rooted with the latest rootkernel versions. It's still unclear if the issue is present on non-rooted kernels.
I will create a poll, please consider answering it to help clear the issue.

By the way, has anyone encountered any issues on 5.1, or is it just a Marshmallow issue?

Partial solution: I installed OM5Z kernel and it has significantly improved battery life on Marshmallow.
While it's still much worse than what you would expect from a Sony compact, it's not awful anymore. The phone can go a day (no heavy usage) without charging now.

Stock or Xpower 4 ,rooted or not dosnt metter - i have a drain every night(8-9 h of sleep) about 5-7% in airplane mode.Try BBS and WD now but seems phone sleep good.Think i lost about 15-20% at 24 hours
On Xpower 4 lite as is...with andro kernel v36 same issue.And i dont have any other soft. Goggle sync and other garbage is off.
Dont now where is may be problem.

X-ITER said:
Stock or Xpower 4 ,rooted or not dosnt metter - i have a drain every night(8-9 h of sleep) about 5-7% in airplane mode.Try BBS and WD now but seems phone sleep good.Think i lost about 15-20% at 24 hours
On Xpower 4 lite as is...with andro kernel v36 same issue.And i dont have any other soft. Goggle sync and other garbage is off.
Dont now where is may be problem.
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Try Xpower3, it looks like X4 got more problem. I'm running v3.0 Full(stock kernel), when I set it to airplane mode over night only drain 1~2% everytime but I've installed greenify donated and used xposed amplify.

For anyone reading this thread, are there any other things people can note about their setup?
Country? Carrier?
If you are having issues, what apps do you use? Do you have a microSD card and if so, what brand/model?
If you are not having issues, same question about apps and microSD card.
I have seen on my phone the higher Android OS CPU usage which is of course the black hole of power drain for many people. I still need to do more scientific testing of usaging or avoiding apps to see if anything is triggering the drain.
T-Mobile US customer here, typically on Wifi at work/home also with T-Mobile cellspot for signal strengh. Standard apps for messaging and social media including Snapchat (bad app for power usage) but avoiding Facebook for now. Google Now Launcher.

Stock firmware, rooted stock kernel, don't have issues
1) Z5 was incredibly hot out of the box
2) Wiping the system, rooting the kernel etc. fixed this but gave me awful battery life
3) Installing the modded kernel then fixed the battery life (found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/9-battery-drain-overnight-97-deep-sleep-t3382145)
I can stretch it to 3 days with light use, a day of heavy use can put me back 50-60%
I'm from the UK with the UK unbranded official ROM.
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kashinoda said:
Stock firmware, rooted stock kernel, don't have issues
3) Installing the modded kernel then fixed the battery life (found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/9-battery-drain-overnight-97-deep-sleep-t3382145)
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You are talking about exactly this link on kernel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67545422&postcount=159
Btw this kernel in Xpower 3.0 and today I try this on my.

X-ITER said:
You are talking about exactly this link on kernel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67545422&postcount=159
Btw this kernel in Xpower 3.0 and today I try this on my.
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Yes this is the kernel. :good: Make sure you have update .224 though.

kashinoda said:
Yes this is the kernel. :good: Make sure you have update .224 though.
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TheEndHK said:
Try Xpower3, it looks like X4 got more problem. I'm running v3.0 Full(stock kernel), when I set it to airplane mode over night only drain 1~2% everytime but I've installed greenify donated and used xposed amplify.
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Tried to night and still no luck.Drain 5 % in airplain mode.
Some new info about drain here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-...tion-stock-t3451725/post68473884#post68473884

X-ITER said:
Tried to night and still no luck.Drain 5 % in airplain mode.
Some new info about drain here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-...tion-stock-t3451725/post68473884#post68473884
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I'll suggest also try other usb cable and power adapter. If they start to have problem, the battery will give you a wrong full charged report.

TheEndHK said:
the battery will give you a wrong full charged report.
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Where i can see or find this report?

X-ITER said:
Where i can see or find this report?
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I meant fake battery statistic .... If your cable or adapter starting to have problem, it told you 100% but actually only 50% so dropping real fast.

TheEndHK said:
I meant fake battery statistic .... If your cable or adapter starting to have problem, it told you 100% but actually only 50% so dropping real fast.
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Ок i try.
I found software RealBattery and CaliBattery.Try this too.

I have also recently upgraded from Z3C to Z5C with stock Singapore Customized FW, but I live in France (ordered from eBay).
Weird thing is that during the day it loses may be 30-40% in 6 hours, but every evening after I come back from work, phone overheats with battery up to 50 degrees and drains 30% in 1 hour...
In stats, it shows Android OS using most of battery and keep awake being 80% of up time...
I had same issue on Z3C with last 6.0.1 MM.
During the night I usually lose 5-10%.
Any advice?

giosal said:
I have also recently upgraded from Z3C to Z5C with stock Singapore Customized FW, but I live in France (ordered from eBay).
Weird thing is that during the day it loses may be 30-40% in 6 hours, but every evening after I come back from work, phone overheats with battery up to 50 degrees and drains 30% in 1 hour...
In stats, it shows Android OS using most of battery and keep awake being 80% of up time...
I had same issue on Z3C with last 6.0.1 MM.
During the night I usually lose 5-10%.
Any advice?
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In other thread suggested to flash HK FW and reported to fix battery drain. Remember to wipe all data during flash and reset the phone.

TheEndHK said:
In other thread suggested to flash HK FW and reported to fix battery drain. Remember to wipe all data during flash and reset the phone.
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The problem is that I have E5803, and not E5823...
Will the HK FW work on it? It's only for E5823 I think (according to Xperifirm)
Also, what exactly should I do - I should wipe everything when installing using Flashtool right?
Should I also do reset after installation?
Can I restore my backup or you would recommend to make a clean install of the apps as well?
I don't want to lose data of apps.

giosal; said:
Can I restore my backup or you would recommend to make a clean install of the apps as well?
I don't want to lose data of apps.
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Before reflash or do someting try to use clean frimware without your usually apps.Do factory reset.Dont forget to make backup of your current state phone i f you need.
I think problem exactly in your apps.
I have issue with night drain and i try HK frimware on my 5823 and i dont feel any difference.

jufofu said:
Partial solution: I installed OM5Z kernel and it has significantly improved battery life on Marshmallow.
While it's still much worse than what you would expect from a Sony compact, it's not awful anymore. The phone can go a day (no heavy usage) without charging now.
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Okay, now that I have gathered some statistics I take back my words about significantly improved battery life. It's slightly improved and still awful.

I'm using stock fw, but have deleted about 60-70 apps I don't have any use for. I also use OM5Z kernel. I experience no drain what I know of, usually have about 3 days with normal use.
The only issue I experienced is that the phone totally crashed a couple of times. I can't wake it up at all, and it doesn't take any charge (LED doesn't lid up). I have to use the reset button to reboot it. But so far, it's a small issue
--Mike

Battery Life on Recent Nougat OTA

Question.. How is everyone else's battery life been so far on Android N? Mine has been atrocious and it's mainly due to Bluetooth. I did a clean install by flashing the recent google image (MTC20F) in ADB then enrolling my Nexus in the beta program and getting the N OTA. I charged my phone to 100% then left for the gym around 5am, got home at 7:40am and my battery is down to 46% from just listening to Pandora, Spotify via bluetooth. Here are some screenshots.. I was getting significantly better battery life on Pure Nexus Rom.. Also, I am stock and not rooted or using any custom tweaks. It's 100% Stock
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XavierD8188 said:
Question.. How is everyone else's battery life been so far on Android N? Mine has been atrocious and it's mainly due to Bluetooth. I did a clean install by flashing the recent google image (MTC20F) in ADB then enrolling my Nexus in the beta program and getting the N OTA. I charged my phone to 100% then left for the gym around 5am, got home at 7:40am and my battery is down to 46% from just listening to Pandora, Spotify via bluetooth. Here are some screenshots.. I was getting significantly better battery life on Pure Nexus Rom..
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Try installing the EX kernel and disabling touchboost under the CPU settings. I get ~40 hours battery life with normal usage. If you tweaked the settings i am sure you would get 2 days easy.

First cycle is today. Doing good...
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Mine is doing the exact same thing as the op's. Bluetooth is just killing the battery too but I am on stock, not rooted or anything. I went from 89% to 26% in a span of 3 hours with Bluetooth and Spotify on in my car and at the gym. I have taken out almost all 3rd party apps, which seems to have helped but this morning as the Bluetooth was on (for Spotify and Waze) during my commute to work, it went right down to 75% from 100% in a span of 45 minutes and that's with the screen OFF. On Android M, the most it had gone down to was to 88%. 75% is ridiculous.
With Bluetooth off, the phone seems to be doing OK ? Android OS and Android System are eating up the battery.
I will do the factory reset tonight and hope for the best but this is the worst battery life I've ever seen on my phone.

GuiCunha said:
First cycle is today. Doing good... View attachment 3853114
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Great.... So N does not fix whatever the hell bug started in MM with Android system and os.
That's not good news..
Thanks for reports though.
Keep them coming.

meboy said:
Great.... So N does not fix whatever the hell bug started in MM with Android system and os.
That's not good news..
Thanks for reports though.
Keep them coming.
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What issue?
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GuiCunha said:
What issue?
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There is a thread for just about every phone that has MM.
Look around for Android System and Android OS.
Not in LP.

I don't know what Bluetooth and android system/os issues you are mentioning, but I did a clean stock restore with factory images from Pure Nexus then took the OTA through system update, all was good, did a factory data reset, pushed twrp 3.0.2-1 then then supersu 2.76 and took most of the Google stuff I don't use out.
No issues what's so ever. Battery is great. I'm losing about 10% battery for every 45-50 min sot. And the new doze is working flawlessly. I lost 1% battery overnight in 7.5 hours. Yesterday Gsam battery monitor showed my phone was in light or deep doze in 7:20 out over 9.5 hours of charge with 2 hours sot.
I'm only rooted with some debloat and TiBu and battery apps gsam and wakelock detector

It's not BT guys. It's your music streaming. Bet if you moved to an app that uses on board music and tested it you would find you have better battery life.

I'm stock and not rooted with any mods.. Just find it weird.. On PN Rom my battery life was fantastic with Elemental X Kernel..
mzkaye729 said:
Mine is doing the exact same thing as the op's. Bluetooth is just killing the battery too but I am on stock, not rooted or anything. I went from 89% to 26% in a span of 3 hours with Bluetooth and Spotify on in my car and at the gym. I have taken out almost all 3rd party apps, which seems to have helped but this morning as the Bluetooth was on (for Spotify and Waze) during my commute to work, it went right down to 75% from 100% in a span of 45 minutes and that's with the screen OFF. On Android M, the most it had gone down to was to 88%. 75% is ridiculous.
With Bluetooth off, the phone seems to be doing OK ? Android OS and Android System are eating up the battery.
I will do the factory reset tonight and hope for the best but this is the worst battery life I've ever seen on my phone.
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I went back to all stock and non rooted.. Wanted to just try N pure without any mods but I guess that might have to change.
shintoroi said:
Try installing the EX kernel and disabling touchboost under the CPU settings. I get ~40 hours battery life with normal usage. If you tweaked the settings i am sure you would get 2 days easy.
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I don't think that's the issue seeing as how you can download your spotify playlist to your phone which I do.. Not to mention in my screenshot, Spotify wasn't the root of the issue, the Bluetooth was at 20%.. Nothing else was close..
zelendel said:
It's not BT guys. It's your music streaming. Bet if you moved to an app that uses on board music and tested it you would find you have better battery life.
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XavierD8188 said:
I don't think that's the issue seeing as how you can download your spotify playlist to your phone which I do.. Not to mention in my screenshot, Spotify wasn't the root of the issue, the Bluetooth was at 20%.. Nothing else was close..
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Look at the cell connection. There are 2 major factors normally to battery drain. 1. SOT and 2. Cell connectivity. As an example. It doesnt matter how big of a battery I use or the device. I can easily kill the battery on any phone within 4 hours without even touching it due to cell signal.

Normally I would agree with you but in the screenshots I posted (not sure why they're so small), my SOT was only 16 mins and my LTE connection was at full strength. I never had these issues when I was using Pure Nexus Rom and I was using that ROM since October of last year with the same exact setup and haven't moved from my current apt.. Literally haven't done anything differently from that Rom to Nougat and for some reason, bluetooth is killing my battery. In the pics I posted where it shows what's eating battery, it was at 20% and the next thing was 9%.. Spotify was at 3% and Pandora was around 3%..
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Look at the cell connection. There are 2 major factors normally to battery drain. 1. SOT and 2. Cell connectivity. As an example. It doesnt matter how big of a battery I use or the device. I can easily kill the battery on any phone within 4 hours without even touching it due to cell signal.
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XavierD8188 said:
Normally I would agree with you but in the screenshots I posted (not sure why they're so small), my SOT was only 16 mins and my LTE connection was at full strength. I never had these issues when I was using Pure Nexus Rom and I was using that ROM since October of last year with the same exact setup and haven't moved from my current apt.. Literally haven't done anything differently from that Rom to Nougat and for some reason, bluetooth is killing my battery. In the pics I posted where it shows what's eating battery, it was at 20% and the next thing was 9%.. Spotify was at 3% and Pandora was around 3%..
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Custom roms change how things work like that. Like I noticed on a few roms they will throttle the data when the device is off.
Those stats really are kinda misleading. What ever you use the most will always be at top. No matter how much it uses. As an example. for 30 min say you use youtube the most and the next 30 you use spotify the most. You will see them swap off when you look at what is draining your battery.
Also you have to remember that with the new update many things have changed system wide. If it were me. I would pull a logcat. I dont have the official yet for my nexus 6 so still on the developer preview and I run BT all day long using power amp and it bearly touches the battery. Mind you that could just be issue with the 7.0 update which is why they are already working on 7.1 to be released in a few weeks.

Very good point.. I'll continue to monitor it over the next few days, if all else fails I will just go back to a custom rom and wait for 7.1... Thanks for the info
zelendel said:
Custom roms change how things work like that. Like I noticed on a few roms they will throttle the data when the device is off.
Those stats really are kinda misleading. What ever you use the most will always be at top. No matter how much it uses. As an example. for 30 min say you use youtube the most and the next 30 you use spotify the most. You will see them swap off when you look at what is draining your battery.
Also you have to remember that with the new update many things have changed system wide. If it were me. I would pull a logcat. I dont have the official yet for my nexus 6 so still on the developer preview and I run BT all day long using power amp and it bearly touches the battery. Mind you that could just be issue with the 7.0 update which is why they are already working on 7.1 to be released in a few weeks.
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XavierD8188 said:
Very good point.. I'll continue to monitor it over the next few days, if all else fails I will just go back to a custom rom and wait for 7.1... Thanks for the info
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Here is my current SS. Yes it is only a couple of hours but I connect my BT headset the min I wake up and it stays on all day long.

That's how mine was when I was using a custom rom.. Never saw Bluetooth on there before and I used it often as well.. Not sure what the issue is.. It's really weird
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Here is my current SS. Yes it is only a couple of hours but I connect my BT headset the min I wake up and it stays on all day long. View attachment 3854298
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XavierD8188 said:
That's how mine was when I was using a custom rom.. Never saw Bluetooth on there before and I used it often as well.. Not sure what the issue is.. It's really weird
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Grab a logcat. Did you take an OTA or do a full complete redo for the update? I am shooting in the dark myself really. Just suggesting what I would do. I also dont use streaming music apps. I keep all my music on device for many reasons.

I did a factory reset. Thought it fixed my Bluetooth drain as I had Spotify on and Waze while connected to my car this morning. Usually by the time I get to work after 45-50 minutes, I'd be down to 88% from 100% (with a few 3rd party apps installed). Thought it was fixed as I only went down to 96% for the duration of my commute (with minimal 3rd party apps installed).
However, the Bluetooth drain showed up again when I connected my Bluetooth headphones for use in the gym. The drain was not as drastic as I reported earlier. However, it still took up a nice chunk and Bluetooth again is sitting at the top of my battery usage list along with Android System and Android OS. The phone is at least acceptable now but I have no idea why it is draining as quickly now when it never used to do this before when I was on Android M. It's not like I changed my routine or usage habits.
Also, I am on stock, not rooted or anything so really not sure what is going on. Maybe I will just wait for a patch or something.

I feel like I am a child born again

Hey all, I just grabbed a 6P off of Cragislist, and coming from a Note 4 that couldn't be rooted I'm happier than a pig in **** about my current ROM Options. I've been out of the ROM scene since my Nexus 5. There's actually so many options I don't know where to start. I feel like a Stock ROM with Pixel stuff baked in. I kinda like the idea of the built in Bluetooth battery levels in Lineage but having a Nexus device it feels silly to go that far from stock. If someone could bring me up to speed on what my options are and help me narrow things down that would be fantastic.

I'd wait a week to make sure the phone works correctly and you get a feel of the phone before installing roms so that you know how to narrow down some issues should they arrive.
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i second the poster above me , the phone is a piece of garbage and has MANY issues on stock rom , so good luck to you
i bought mine with the expectation of rooting and installing a custom rom the phone has so MANY issues on stock that you would have to be crazy to fuk around and attempt to put a custom rom on this piece of garbage , the stock MM and N won't even get you 2 hours of SOT
a custom rom will be a nightmare, also many other issues on stock rom , if you enjoy 1/2 hour SOT go for it

gdroid666 said:
i second the poster above me , the phone is a piece of garbage and has MANY issues on stock rom , so good luck to you
i bought mine with the expectation of rooting and installing a custom rom the phone has so MANY issues on stock that you would have to be crazy to fuk around and attempt to put a custom rom on this piece of garbage , the stock MM and N won't even get you 2 hours of SOT
a custom rom will be a nightmare, also many other issues on stock rom , if you enjoy 1/2 hour SOT go for it
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Custom ROM a nightmare? I'm on latest Dirty Unicorns with Flash kernel and have no issues. Battery life and performance have been great.
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I feel like a Stock ROM with Pixel stuff baked in.
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MegaPixel would probably be a good ROM for what you want.

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Custom ROM a nightmare? I'm on latest Dirty Unicorns with Flash kernel and have no issues. Battery life and performance have been great.
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well does it get better battery life than stock N or stock MM, because my phone is garbage it will not get more than 2 hours of SOT on either MM or N, i RMA'd the phone , but it does not look like they even touched it, i sent it in with a glass screen protector on it and it came back with it still on , i sent the phone to huawei on MM and it came back on N 7.0
the phone gets better standby now, before on MM it would lose like 65% from when i went to bed to when i woke up , now it gets decent standby time on 7.0 but SOT is even more **** than before , looks like they did nothing to fix my phone so i guess this is the expected battery life , about 2 hour SOT , i see lots of other people complain about this phone SOT too i hate it ,it is absolutely worthless to me, it gets 2 hours of SOT but only if i am doing nothing if i run something demanding it gets hot and dies even sooner , run maps and it dies in less than an hour ,i would never attempt to mod it because
it has so many issues now on just stock
it's a piece of crap
i will probably try to RMA again and huawei will probably jerk me off and wast my time and cause me abother HUGE hassle agains and do fukall again and send me my phone back untouched and keep doing it till they run out the clock on the little left on my warranty , they suck their products sucks and their customer service sucks crap company, crap products

gdroid666 said:
well does it get better batter life than stock N or stok MM, because my phone is garbage t will not get more than 2 hours of OT on either MM or N, RMA the phone , but it does not look like even touched it, i sent it in with a glass screen protector on it and it came back with it still on , i sent the phone to huawei on MM and it came back on N 7.0
the phone gets better standby now, befroe on MM it would lose like 65% from when i went to bed to when i woke up , now it gets decent standby time on 7.0 but SOT is even more **** than before , looks like they nothing to fix my phone so i guess this si the expect batter life about 2 hour SOT , i see lots of other poeple complain about this phone SOT too i hate it is absolutely worthless to me, it gets 2 SOT hours doing nothing if i run something demanding it gets hot and dies even sooner , run maps and it dies in less than hour ,i would never attempt to mod it
it has so many issues now it's a piece of crap
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Wasn't on stock very long but my battery life was never that bad (4-5 hrs SoT on N). On DU 11.1 (7.1.1) with Flash kernel I can get 5-7 hrs SoT depending on usage. Idle drain is usually
.2-.5 per hour.

seabro01 said:
Wasn't on stock very long but my battery life was never that bad (4-5 hrs SoT on N). On DU 11.1 (7.1.1) with Flash kernel I can get 5-7 hrs SoT depending on usage. Idle drain is usually
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my phone is at 50% right now and it says 10% android system and 10% for android OS , is that normal for it drain 20% for those 2 things? SOT is 1:43 and 10%
also i heard 7.1.1 has major issues and your 6p will eventually get stuck in a boot loop if you ever updated to 7.1.1

gdroid666 said:
my phone is at 50% right now and it says 10% android system and 10% for android OS , is that normal for it drain 20% for those 2 things? SOT is 1:43 and 10%
also i heard 7.1.1 has major issues and your 6p will eventually get stuck in a boot loop if you ever updated to 7.1.1
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Should vary depending on usage. I've noticed that Android OS is usually quite a bit lower than Android system.
I've heard that about 6P and 5x but both have been on 7.1.1 without any issues. My 6P doesn't even have early shutdown (still 99% battery capacity). Don't think every 6P that updated to 7.1.1 will eventually have boot loop of death. Would be bigger issue if that was the case.
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gdroid666 said:
i second the poster above me , the phone is a piece of garbage and has MANY issues on stock rom , so good luck to you
i bought mine with the expectation of rooting and installing a custom rom the phone has so MANY issues on stock that you would have to be crazy to fuk around and attempt to put a custom rom on this piece of garbage , the stock MM and N won't even get you 2 hours of SOT
a custom rom will be a nightmare, also many other issues on stock rom , if you enjoy 1/2 hour SOT go for it
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Dude, you're just gonna ***** and complain on every thread? Obviously you're phone is borked. RMA, get a new and enjoy or move on to another phone. It's either that or learn how to take care of your battery (know how to operate a phone). My guess, it's user error. some ppl have a few issues here and there but nothing what you're talking about.
Hey, or a 3rd option. You don't even own the phone and are one of those ppl that crave attention bashing stuff you don't even own. That would be soooo sad if that is the case

Eric214 said:
Dude, you're just gonna ***** and complain on every thread? Obviously you're phone is borked. RMA, get a new and enjoy or move on to another phone. It's either that or learn how to take care of your battery (know how to operate a phone). My guess, it's user error. some ppl have a few issues here and there but nothing what you're talking about.
Hey, or a 3rd option. You don't even own the phone and are one of those ppl that crave attention bashing stuff you don't even own. That would be soooo sad if that is the case
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i can assure you i do own the phone unfortunately
and i did RMA it already and huawei did NOTHING to it they just wasted my time and sent it back to me without doing anything at all to it
all they did was send it back just as i sent it to them and wasted everyones time , it was updated to N 7.0
and they sent me this shiny pen (see pic) , wow
so what should i do then ,go through this BS again and send them my phone back again and get it sent back to me again the same as i gave it again only worse or have them give me another POS that will most definitely have the same issues?how many times will they put me through this ****?
and the phone has had the issues since i unboxed it from day one so i don't know what you mean about taking care of the battery , and what could one even do to get the battery to discharge at a rate 4 times faster than normal in a few months of lite use
huehue way tells me there is nothing wrong with the phone, you tell me there is and i see other people all over the map saying they get 2 hours SOT or can't get 2 hours SOT and others say they get 4 ,5 6, 7,hours i don't know who to believe, the chinese have spies and shills everywhere shilling their crappy products or they just have **** QC
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Custom ROM a nightmare? I'm on latest Dirty Unicorns with Flash kernel and have no issues. Battery life and performance have been great.
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MegaPixel would probably be a good ROM for what you want.
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I'd like to second this quote. lol. I sometimes crackflash Roms that aren't stable just in free time and to test things but there are a few I can vouch for that are 100% stable.
My favs and both work 100 are DU and ABCrom. Pure Nexus is also a good one but I stay on either DU or ABC. I can't live without the hold power down for flashlight or double me tap to wake on dose and dt2w lockscreen for screen off. Ugh. Heaven sent. ?
Hey @nameback Glad your back. I had a Hammerhead. Was a damn good device back in the day! Happy flashing. ?This one's far superior.
Don't let all the talk about defective devices get to you. I've had a Nexus 5x since 2 mo the after they came out and this is my 2nd 6p (first one got smashed on a job) and I flash A-LOT and never had either crap out on me... Seems it's just a wild card type deal with defective units. I just looked and mine was made Dec 2016. I hope it's a refurb. At any rate can't do anything about it either way except hit up Hauwei and Google if they do crap out and see what happens. Cheers.
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6p, ABCrom by kantjer

that title makes me think you need therapy

I also want to buy one but I worry about bootloop. Please advise me! Thanks

quachtinhbs said:
I also want to buy one but I worry about bootloop. Please advise me! Thanks
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just don't update to 7.1.1. but i would not buy this phone at all it is a piece of garbage unless you plan on never being away from you house or car for more than an hour the phone is useless
i should have got the moto x pure

gdroid666 said:
just don't update to 7.1.1. but i would not buy this phone at all it is a piece of garbage unless you plan on never being away from you house or car for more than an hour the phone is useless
i should have got the moto x pure
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After your 5 posts, i'm not yet sure i've understood what you're trying to say...
OH, you're saying it's a good phone... Yeah you're right... It's a good phone... :good:

Some people have 6Ps that are lemons but I have never had any serious issues with mine. I'm on Cortex rom with ElementalEx Kernel and get 4 hours sot easily. You have a lot of options but I would stay on stock for at least a few days as previously suggested just to rule out potential problems with your phone. Megapixel was a good rom but I don't think it's being updated anymore so that isn't a good choice. Pure Nexus is heavily hyped and extremely overrated. I've heard good things about Dirty Unicorn but haven't flashed it myself. If you try Cortex I would recommend the January build rather than the current one.

+1 for keeping stock for a few days or even weeks.
I also haven't got any problem either. I've never been able to get under 4h SOT under normal use.
Later, you could try a different kernel. I've been using Flash kernel and I recommend it (and support is great). Have also been running Pixel stuffs but not anymore (launcher and GA but while they worked fine, they were gadgets IMO).

I just picked up used one less then year old. I'll admit was little disappointed in the battery performance but the increased charging rate makes up for my usage. I'm sticking with stock ROM for now rooted, substratum+swift back and Franco kernel.

Well here's where I'm at, this phone is running a TON of custom software already but he didn't tell me what exactly. He has Pixel Launcher, Pixel Boot Animation and TWRP with an unlocked bootloader. I can't use Android Pay because the Bootloader is unlocked. Can I re-lock the bootloader with TWRP installed and just install ROMs with Magisk?

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Well here's where I'm at, this phone is running a TON of custom software already but he didn't tell me what exactly. He has Pixel Launcher, Pixel Boot Animation and TWRP with an unlocked bootloader. I can't use Android Pay because the Bootloader is unlocked. Can I re-lock the bootloader with TWRP installed and just install ROMs with Magisk?
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You can't lock the bootloader with a custom recovery. That's pretty much a guaranteed bootloop. If you use Magisk and PhilsSu instead of SuperSU you should be able to use Android Pay. Not sure if the rom you are using makes a difference. I know people have done that successfully on multiple roms. Do you know if you are running a rom or stock with Pixel mods?

Much better battery life on 6.0 than Nougat, why?

Hello guys. So recently, i've got an S5 (G900F). As soon as i get it, I installed LineageOS 14.1, the latest in order to have Nougat on my device.
The problem was that the device couldnt switch on Doze (or smth like this, i dont know), and the standby battery time is very bad, it discharges 1-2-3% / h standby.
I though that my battery was the problem so i've got a fresh, brand new S5 Battery for a fortune, and guess what? Its the same!
So i decided to install RR Nougat, and it's exactly the same. My last tough was to install an RR MM to the devie, and guess again what! The battery life is amazing, it basically stays the same % in standby.
Why do this bug has in Nougat, and how can I fix this?
Thanks!

Install the Boeffla-Kernel. Battery life with LineageOS and that kernel is much better than MM with stock.

andacro said:
Install the Boeffla-Kernel. Battery life with LineageOS and that kernel is much better than MM with stock.
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Thanks. I did install the kernel, but right now I'm using RR Nougat. When I installed that kernel I haven't spot any difference with battery. What's​ your settings in that kernel?
I might consider installing LOS back.

snikerfreak said:
Thanks. I did install the kernel, but right now I'm using RR Nougat. When I installed that kernel I haven't spot any difference with battery. What's​ your settings in that kernel?
I might consider installing LOS back.
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Got stock MM now, and overnight with BT on I see no difference compared to LOS with Boeffla with the battery friendly preset. Haven't compared if one is more battery friendly during daily use.
Going back to LOS as the latest MM update from Samsung doesn't have the mobile ID banking apk which isn't available on at Play. Samsung sucks!

andacro said:
Got stock MM now, and overnight with BT on I see no difference compared to LOS with Boeffla with the battery friendly preset. Haven't compared if one is more battery friendly during daily use.
Going back to LOS as the latest MM update from Samsung doesn't have the mobile ID banking apk which isn't available on at Play. Samsung sucks!
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On stock MM, how much does your battery drained during night? (And compared to LOS)

snikerfreak said:
On stock MM, how much does your battery drained during night? (And compared to LOS)
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Flat line with both. No visible drain, even with BT on.

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Flat line with both. No visible drain, even with BT on.
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Okay. Right now I'm using RR M, and 2% loss after 2 hours. This is embarrassing. What is your boeffla config in LOS? I'll install back that ROM.

snikerfreak said:
Okay. Right now I'm using RR M, and 2% loss after 2 hours. This is embarrassing. What is your boeffla config in LOS? I'll install back that ROM.
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Embarrassed too! Thought I restored LOS, but then I saw Magisk was installed, and that didn't add up... Was RR I had, but couldn't get root for the Boeffla app, so I installed the latest LOS nightly, and it's awesome. Got the flat line this night with BT connected too! Haven't installed Boeffla yet.

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Embarrassed too! Thought I restored LOS, but then I saw Magisk was installed, and that didn't add up... Was RR I had, but couldn't get root for the Boeffla app, so I installed the latest LOS nightly, and it's awesome. Got the flat line this night with BT connected too! Haven't installed Boeffla yet.
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Strange. Can you send me a screen shot from the battery usage?

My s5 is broken recently, i was using LOS and i noticed that battery is poor. Now, i'm using galaxy a3 16 with stock rom MM, 2100mh of battery, the battery is amazing than galaxy s5 LOS with 2800mh of battery.

hey guys, try to get latest baseband and bootloader for your devices. I've updated mine and tons of problems were solved (I've never suspected this would be the problem doe)

lemurm1n said:
My s5 is broken recently, i was using LOS and i noticed that battery is poor. Now, i'm using galaxy a3 16 with stock rom MM, 2100mh of battery, the battery is amazing than galaxy s5 LOS with 2800mh of battery.
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Okay. Tell me a ROM that:
- Doesnt lag
- Have a great battery life
I assume every rom that is Nougat based are excluded from this list.

snikerfreak said:
Strange. Can you send me a screen shot from the battery usage?
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LOS 05.10.2017.
While sleeping. BT connected. Battery saving profile and doze unchecked in Boeffla. You can see when I woke up.
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While on the go. BT used. Flat line at the end when I came home. Heavy battery use. Don't know if stock would be better. Battery friendly profile and doze unchecked in Boeffla.

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LOS 05.10.2017.
While sleeping. BT connected. Battery saving profile and doze unchecked in Boeffla. You can see when I woke up.
While on the go. BT used. Flat line at the end when I came home. Heavy battery use. Don't know if stock would be better. Battery friendly profile and doze unchecked in Boeffla.
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What? Am I supposed to uncheck Doze? It meant to save my battery, what the... ?

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What? Am I supposed to uncheck Doze? It meant to save my battery, what the... ?
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Never thought about how doze worked in Boeffla, or understood, but it might be that unchecking it does that no apps are dozing, but checked only those that are white listed native in the battery settings are not. Right?

andacro said:
Never thought about how doze worked in Boeffla, or understood, but it might be that unchecking it does that no apps are dozing, but checked only those that are white listed native in the battery settings are not. Right?
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Honestly, i dont know. I'm crying back those days when my Galaxy J5 drained 0% overnight (CM12.1). Its a shame for Nougat (and probably MM too).

snikerfreak said:
Honestly, i dont know. I'm crying back those days when my Galaxy J5 drained 0% overnight (CM12.1). Its a shame for Nougat (and probably MM too).
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Bloating never does any good no! I miss KitKat. It was perfect!

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Bloating never does any good no! I miss KitKat. It was perfect!
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lollipop is the best of them all: I'm using S3 with archidroid 5.1.1 and it doubled my battery life (i kid you not!). I've tried RR MM and Nougat and it too but battery life was way way worse, in general 6 and 7 are worse OS-es than KK...
so to conclude, I'm getting S5 on Saturday and will install most optimized lollipop on it judging by my and you experience on other OS-es here

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lollipop is the best of them all: I'm using S3 with archidroid 5.1.1 and it doubled my battery life (i kid you not!). I've tried RR MM and Nougat and it too but battery life was way way worse, in general 6 and 7 are worse OS-es than KK...
so to conclude, I'm getting S5 on Saturday and will install most optimized lollipop on it judging by my and you experience on other OS-es here
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Would like Lollipop too, but is concerned about the lack of security updates.

Everyone roll your eyes: another battery question.

So, it seems like my battery isn't quite behaving itself. I've turned of Moto Display, underclock GPU to 300mhz, and switched to 1080p instead of 1440p, used Amplify to control wakelocks and Greenify to hibernate things that like to run in the background. I have never gotten more than about 1hr30min of screen time. My phone stays relatively cool unless I'm playing a lot of games or watching a lot of videos on YouTube. I have a handful of xposed plugins (Amplify, GravityBox, Greenify, NougatNavigation Bar (I like the solid icons rather than the lines that comes with stock N) and Status Bar Cleanup).
Anyone think I should get a new battery? Not under warranty, so I can't do anything via that route.
Also, is eBay a good enough place to find a replacement battery as long as I make sure it's not a counterfeit?
Thanks everyone for any help.

Can you be more specific what you mean by your battery not behaving itself? Random shut down or at any particular battery level? Sudden drop off battery percentage ofb10% or more shortly after charger disconnect? Has the unusual battery occurred after any specific updates to any of your apps? Have you tried a factory reset (I know it's painful but it does help on occasion)? Just throwing it out there.

Moppusan said:
So, it seems like my battery isn't quite behaving itself. I've turned of Moto Display, underclock GPU to 300mhz, and switched to 1080p instead of 1440p,
It doesn't make difference - restore default,
used Amplify to control wakelocks and Greenify to hibernate things that like to run in the background.
Doesn't work good on Nougat - you can use "background permission setter" app & "link2sd" for disable some apps
I have never gotten more than about 1hr30min of screen
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Standard is ~3-4 hours of SOT with any rom or kernel.
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Look into this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/help/strange-battery-behavior-following-t3716055

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Standard is ~3-4 hours of SOT with any rom or kernel.
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I rarely ever got 3 hours... GSAM's average SOT over time was about 2h 20m... Although I did have occasional instances with 4 hours (on WiFi, reading, at night, very low drainage usage). Not really the point though
Should you replace the battery, well, from what you say it sounds like it is due... The real problem is getting a quality replacement. You can find a ton of them on eBay or other online markets, but most users here will tell you that you can't get an OEM battery any more no matter what the seller says, they just don't exist, and most of the ones that state "new" are just knock-offs or batteries for other devices that are re-purposed (and often of lower capacity). There is a serious market for cell phone batteries, and there are lots of counterfeits out and just out-right lies there, so the real problem is getting a good replacement battery. It is literally luck...
Remember, this device is 2.5 years old... Meaning most batteries for it were likely made prior to that. Although I paint a gloomy picture (it is a bit gloomy) there has to be some decent ones out there, but expect to pay $20+ and it will still be a crap shoot. Remember that when replacing the battery in this device, it isn't the easiest so do your homework. You will likely want a new back cover assembly (door and adhesive) as well because a good majority of the time they get destroyed when performing the operation.
Oh, and before you go down this road I suggest wiping your device... everything... and set it back up with the absolute bare minimum stuff (don't install anything if possible) for a couple days and retest your SOT. Not saying that's the case here, but Nougat's battery/app management is pretty good and we have seen more and more tales of things like Greenify/Amplify and other tweaks for helping battery life having the opposite effect, with some people noting the more they try to tweak it the worse it gets. Just a thought...

aybarrap1 said:
Can you be more specific what you mean by your battery not behaving itself? Random shut down or at any particular battery level? Sudden drop off battery percentage ofb10% or more shortly after charger disconnect? Has the unusual battery occurred after any specific updates to any of your apps? Have you tried a factory reset (I know it's painful but it does help on occasion)? Just throwing it out there.
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Quite a few times my battery would drop ~5-6% just after I remove it from the charger (regular USB power, not the turbo charger). I have tried a factory once and I let the battery do the "break in" period just to see if the battery was calibrated or not. So far it seems it is calibrated...I've also tried draining the battery until it my it shuts off, then using the turbo charger and letting it sit for like ~8 hours (I forget where I saw that specific bit of advice. It was in response to someone else posting...I don't even remember where. Possibly XDA, not 100% sure).
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I found my capacity to be 3034mAh...which is....quite odd. My battery isn't even fully charged.
acejavelin said:
I rarely ever got 3 hours... GSAM's average SOT over time was about 2h 20m... Although I did have occasional instances with 4 hours (on WiFi, reading, at night, very low drainage usage). Not really the point though
Should you replace the battery, well, from what you say it sounds like it is due... The real problem is getting a quality replacement. You can find a ton of them on eBay or other online markets, but most users here will tell you that you can't get an OEM battery any more no matter what the seller says, they just don't exist, and most of the ones that state "new" are just knock-offs or batteries for other devices that are re-purposed (and often of lower capacity). There is a serious market for cell phone batteries, and there are lots of counterfeits out and just out-right lies there, so the real problem is getting a good replacement battery. It is literally luck...
Remember, this device is 2.5 years old... Meaning most batteries for it were likely made prior to that. Although I paint a gloomy picture (it is a bit gloomy) there has to be some decent ones out there, but expect to pay $20+ and it will still be a crap shoot. Remember that when replacing the battery in this device, it isn't the easiest so do your homework. You will likely want a new back cover assembly (door and adhesive) as well because a good majority of the time they get destroyed when performing the operation.
Oh, and before you go down this road I suggest wiping your device... everything... and set it back up with the absolute bare minimum stuff (don't install anything if possible) for a couple days and retest your SOT. Not saying that's the case here, but Nougat's battery/app management is pretty good and we have seen more and more tales of things like Greenify/Amplify and other tweaks for helping battery life having the opposite effect, with some people noting the more they try to tweak it the worse it gets. Just a thought...
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I actually tried to replace the battery once and I did such a terrible job that I ruined the contact points on the ribbon that connects to the main board. I wish I could get a new phone (like a Pixel 2) but I have nowhere near enough income or funds set aside for that. Maybe later this year...hopefully...and not necessarily a Pixel 2 but something that runs very close to stock AOSP. I would definitely miss the 2 front facing speakers on anything else. I saw ZTE Axon 7 and the Razer phone has them too...but no idea how close they are to stock AOSP. Maybe I'll take the plunge into flashing the stock Nougat images and let it be naked for a few days. That sure would be annoying...but if it helps my MXPE survive in good shape until I can afford another phone I'm all in.
Thanks everyone for the help! I'll look into my options and hopefully I can get a bit more time out of this phone until I can afford a newer one that doesn't have the stupid Snapdragon 808. I shake my fist at thee, battery hog!

I'm on Nougat stock and I keep getting battery down at 25-35% regularely. I can see that when I put phone in charge after it shuts down percentage charge numbers start where power down happened at 25-35% Tried a battery calibrate weeks ago with a play store app. At first looked like it got fixed but just for a day or so and back with same problem. Also SoT is terrible, getting max 1h and if i do a heavy use even less and I dont even use social media at all. No idea if its a dead battery or software problem seeing I was on custom rom before i reverted back on stock nougat. Waiting for a decent Nougat modem stock Rom to try it once again to see if a difference or not.

andromobilogy said:
I'm on Nougat stock and I keep getting battery down at 25-35% regularely. I can see that when I put phone in charge after it shuts down percentage charge numbers start where power down happened at 25-35% Tried a battery calibrate weeks ago with a play store app. At first looked like it got fixed but just for a day or so and back with same problem. Also SoT is terrible, getting max 1h and if i do a heavy use even less and I dont even use social media at all. No idea if its a dead battery or software problem seeing I was on custom rom before i reverted back on stock nougat. Waiting for a decent Nougat modem stock Rom to try it once again to see if a difference or not.
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"Battery calibration" apps don't work... The proper way to "recalibrate" a battery in modern Moto devices is https://motorola-global-en-uk.custh...moto-g4-g4-plus/topic/battery/battery-reset/1
Honestly, if this does nothing, try a cache wipe, and if that doesn't help do a factory reset. If that fails as well, then the battery is likely beyond it's useful life (becoming more and more common lately) and will need to be replaced if you can find a quality replacement. There is no "trick" to getting the battery back.
It seems these batteries were engineered for 18-24 months of life and that is about it, as most modern devices themselves are only intended for a max of 24 months of usable life anyway... They sure seem to drop off significantly in charge capacity after that point.

Try this app? AccuBattery
After a couple of charge cycles it shows my battery at 89% of max. My manufacture date is 11-16-2016, so just over a year old. Of course, the battery could have been made before then by some months, I don't know.
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