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Please discuss, post support and spread news about this petition: https://www.change.org/p/motorola-please-include-moto-g-3rd-gen-for-android-nougat-update
Motorola, please include Moto G (3rd Gen) for Android Nougat UpdateOn 4th October 2016 you announced on your official blog which handsets would be getting the Android 7.0 (Nougat) update.
Absent from the list was the Moto G 3rd Gen (Osprey) and Moto G Turbo Edition (Merlin) - making them historically the first Moto G phones to receive only one major Android update. Both Moto G 1st Gen (Falcon) and 2nd Gen (Titan) where given two Android updates - KitKat and Lollipop in the case of 'Falcon,' and Lollipop and Marshmallow for 'Titan.'
The abandoning of support for both 'Osprey' after 8 months (Android 6.0.1 was released in March 2016) and 'Merlin' after only 3 months shows that the Moto brand now will no longer respect the previous practise of providing ‘18 months of update support.’
Included on the current official Nougat update device list is the Moto G Play (4th Gen) - a handset with weaker specifications than both 'Osprey' and 'Merlin.'
The issue is not technical limitation. You appear to have simply decided your last generation Moto G handsets are no longer important.
The Moto G Play uses the exact same chipset and GPU as 'Osprey,' but runs at a lower CPU clock-speed. This profound hardware similarity suggests that in the process of making the update for Moto G Play; much of the work needed to produce a Nougat update for 'Osprey' would be completed.
Moto X Play (also on the Nougat update list) uses the exact same chipset and GPU as Moto G Turbo Edition - making both devices Vulkan compatible.
Moto G is a mid-range device, but your update support for it shrinks with each year. Why should people have confidence in your products when you so casually drop support for your best-selling phone?
Thank you, I'm in
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Thanks, I'm in.
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I'm in.
me too
I'm in
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I'm in.
Can anyone post it in general forum in XDA?
Me too
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Can anyone post it in general forum in XDA?
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I replicated this thread there - http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/petition-android-nougat-update-osprey-t3476496
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To play the devil's advocate, why does anyone care about Motorola updating the G3 to Nougat when it 1) has an unlockable bootloader and 2) is on the list for official CM14? This isn't an iPhone. You don't have to depend on the manufacturer for updates. Honestly I think Motorola was counting on G3 users flashing CM14.
Personally, I don't care if any phone I own has OTA updates as long as I have glorious CM.
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I replicated this thread there - http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/petition-android-nougat-update-osprey-t3476496
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Thanks.
@argentwarrior20 - We still need fresh kernel sources, at least we *should* get them. And fresh proprietary blobs too.
There are a lot of users who want to stay stock or doesn't know about community development. They should get official updates too, we can't forget about them this easy [emoji106]
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@argentwarrior20 - We still need fresh kernel sources, at least we *should* get them. And fresh proprietary blobs too.
There are a lot of users who want to stay stock or doesn't know about community development. They should get official updates too, we can't forget about them this easy [emoji106]
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correct. and volte is only available in stock. so most people dont use cm14 or anyother custom roms now. coz of jio volte .. people still needs stock update
i'm in ... there is no true reason for motorola to drop Osprey or Merlin from N update when the play is included
@argentwarrior20 - You are assuming battery-life and performance is just as good in CM/AOSP, as on a Motorola developed Stock ROM. No disrespect to the XDA Devs, but Motorola can optimize and tweak for a superior experience. Also as already mentioned, specific features may only be supported on Stock. If it is at all possible, you should want the option of Stock Android 7.0 to be available.
Im in,
although I seriously doubt that g3 and g power wont get the update.I mean,they arent even old,plus they are compatible,if they dont get the update the one to blame is totally the crappy lenovo which provides just 1 major update(for example,lenovo a6000 and tab 2 series but pretty much almost every their device can be here) and that update is so buggy that it either takes them 1 year to fix the bugs and optimise it or they dont fix them at all.
I'm in!
I too will join with all you guys... Signed the petition..
Motorola recently announced that it will be updating the G4 Plus to Android Or as well. But it also stated that it usually updates the G line to only one major Android version. Does this mean that the they'll hang the G5 Plus at Oreo? Or does the marketing material say otherwise, and we could use it to get P for us as well?
mercuryprobe said:
Motorola recently announced that it will be updating the G4 Plus to Android Or as well. But it also stated that it usually updates the G line to only one major Android version. Does this mean that the they'll hang the G5 Plus at Oreo? Or does the marketing material say otherwise, and we could use it to get P for us as well?
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Bro lets just see how much time does it time takes for moto (lenovo) to give us official Android O update:cyclops:
till december we will get oren and forget about P...that s for sure as of now,according to the above statement from moto!
I read on Lenovo forum a comment from Motorola employee that they have policy of one major os update in Moto G line. So android P for G5 is unlikely.
G4 plus is getting Oreo because Motorola advertised (by mistake, as they say now) it like that at the time of G4 release
1 major update policy for Moto G line is lies!
The original Moto G got updated from Jellybean to Kikat and Lollipop
The 2nd gen Moto G for updated from Kikat to Lollipop and Marshmallow
So? That was in the past.
I have hope in getting Android P in MoTo G5 PLUS
All hope is in us. I'm afraid that we will have to fight on social media and forums (Lenovo profiles, forums, etc.) to get Android P in future.
I wouldn't be surprised if we never see Android p on g5 through Lenovo. My Moto X Pure Edition (Clark) was promised nougat for a long time and when I switched to g5 a few weeks ago I still hadn't received the OTA
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1 major update policy for Moto G line is lies!
The original Moto G got updated from Jellybean to Kikat and Lollipop
The 2nd gen Moto G for updated from Kikat to Lollipop and Marshmallow
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Everything changed on G3, they started to give just a major update
We just have to tell them that every other budget phone gets two upgrades so it is stupid that Motos can only get 1
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1 major update policy for Moto G line is lies!
The original Moto G got updated from Jellybean to Kikat and Lollipop
The 2nd gen Moto G for updated from Kikat to Lollipop and Marshmallow
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Motorola was a different company then, it wasn't owned by Lenovo for a start.
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redman321 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if we never see Android p on g5 through Lenovo. My Moto X Pure Edition (Clark) was promised nougat for a long time and when I switched to g5 a few weeks ago I still hadn't received the OTA
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I sold my Moto X Play for the same reason, promised 7 at the beginning of the year and months later still no OTA.
You guys are forgetting that Lenovo owns Motorola
And the fact that they have released many useless phones in short span
Shows that they are not going put in the effort
And update every budget phone till 1 next major update
nigaindelhi said:
You guys are forgetting that Lenovo owns Motorola
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For this reason, when Google owns Motorola the updates are two major versions. With Lenovo only one major update. Nothing more.
My next phone will be another brand... :crying:
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Ok fine, but when will we get the Oreo update?
LiteSoul said:
Ok fine, but when will we get the Oreo update?
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when its ready...
source dropped less than a month ago...
LiteSoul said:
Ok fine, but when will we get the Oreo update?
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If Lenovo's history continues... later this year (November or December) at the earliest, possibly beginning of next year.
Remember, even they don't even have Nougat out to all models that are getting yet... US users with the Moto X Pure are still waiting and that was a flagship for like 16 months.
Why do you want Oreo so much anyway? I don't see anything worthy waiting
Hi,
So finally Moto has decided that there will be an Oreo update for G4 plus. But they have ignored G4 non-plus version. This is really pathetic on their part. The phone was released in May 2016 only and the company is pulling the plug after a mere 1 and a half years. There is not much difference between the phones so that is any I selected the non-plus version. Is there a way to contact their management or the concerned department so that we can have our voices heard? Any petition going on about the same?
Thanks
billubakra said:
Hi,
So finally Moto has decided that there will be an Oreo update for G4 plus. But they have ignored G4 non-plus version. This is really pathetic on their part. The phone was released in May 2016 only and the company is pulling the plug after a mere 1 and a half years. There is not much difference between the phones so that is any I selected the non-plus version. Is there a way to contact their management or the concerned department so that we can have our voices heard? Any petition going on about the same?
Thanks
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Don't expect too much from them. We could rely on custom ROMS.. just be patient.. at least one oreo ROM should be here
Yes ROM's will be there but I don't think that I will get time to flash as schedule is way too busy nowadays. I am not able to find time to even backup data from my phone so flashing is a big no, OTA yes.
so i guess no ports, right? :/
Oreo port
Well, couldn't someone port the g4 official Oreo update to g4? As said previously, the phones are practically identical. Should eb no problem to sideload the g4 plus update on the g4.
moto g4 and g4 plus are athene version, they are the same build, so it will work on both
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moto g4 and g4 plus are athene version, they are the same build, so it will work on both
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Exactly. So, just grab the update zip from g4 plus, flash it on your g4, and you have Oreo. Yay.
There are some hardware differences on the two phones so the update may not work, so don't just grab a zip and think it will solve the trick. Depending on what Lenovo (the owners of Moto) do in their code it might be an easy or hard port depending on what they do. Also nobody has come up with a way to root and install anything once we got Nougat n these mid range phones so I am not as hopeful there is a developer still working on this phone. If you want Oreo (trust me I'm debating too) we may need to upgrade to a newer phone than a 2 year old one when Oreo does come out for G4+. The companies have built in the obsolescence on these phones after 2 years. So they can continue to make profit by not offering upgrades on every device; even Apple doesn't think about the 3 and 4 series anymore in their IOS roll-outs and slows it down on them. So we might need to save the pennies and look deals come out in November.
So, last year we didn't really succeed to reach the goal of the petition to Motorola to upgrade our phones to Nougat.
This year, I believe that Moto will see this request and make an Official Oreo for the Moto G³/Turbo Edition.
Please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/2xT6skv
It may seem hopeless by now, but the hope dies last. A Christmas miracle may occur!
I hate to say this ,but this ain't gonna happen bro.No Christmas miracle this year.
Apurba99 said:
I hate to say this ,but this ain't gonna happen bro.No Christmas miracle this year.
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That just seems to be the case. But don't be that negative. Let's be honest - we won't lose anything if we at least try. It won't matter for me, personally, if Moto decides to not update the phone. But it's important for the other users. Some of them may be tech-savy but just don't want to risk damaging their device. Others may just want a stock variant of a ROM available in XDA. and the non-techsavy people don't care about updates because they don't understand them anyway. If Moto doesn't push the update to the people that don't understand computers, those people may think their battery life is worse than the other phones because Moto G³ is "a bad phone". They don't care about software. Everyone knows friends like this. But the Moto G³ is not an obsolete device. It has nice specs for Android Oreo, and even better specs for Android GO.
So, I personally believe that Moto will at least start to think, whether or not they should abandon their next phones after several months.
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That just seems to be the case. But don't be that negative. Let's be honest - we won't lose anything if we at least try. It won't matter for me, personally, if Moto decides to not update the phone. But it's important for the other users. Some of them may be tech-savy but just don't want to risk damaging their device. Others may just want a stock variant of a ROM available in XDA. and the non-techsavy people don't care about updates because they don't understand them anyway. If Moto doesn't push the update to the people that don't understand computers, those people may think their battery life is worse than the other phones because Moto G³ is "a bad phone". They don't care about software. Everyone knows friends like this. But the Moto G³ is not an obsolete device. It has nice specs for Android Oreo, and even better specs for Android GO.
So, I personally believe that Moto will at least start to think, whether or not they should abandon their next phones after several months.
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Hope developers soon bring ROM of Android GO for osprey.Just imagine how fast our device will be.LOVE FOR OSPREY ?
Apurba99 said:
Hope developers soon bring ROM of Android GO for osprey.Just imagine how fast our device will be.LOVE FOR OSPREY
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There is a fully-fledged Android Oreo ROM available. There is no reason why you would want Android GO. It's a water-downed version of Android Oreo. I said Android GO as a stock ROM if it is better for the Moto G³.
The moto G4 probably won't get oreo.. why would our device get it?
M1810 said:
The moto G4 probably won't get oreo.. why would our device get it?
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Because it didn't get Nougat.
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Because it didn't get Nougat.
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Yeah, that won't happen any time soon.. this is lenovo remember? Also no company has ever bumped a device for example from 5.0 to 7.0, as far as i know.
Hmm... That may be the case here, too (I'm 98% sure). But the thing is - Moto should learn from their mistakes. I think that it's a mistake to guarantee "2 year full support" and then dump the device after just several months.
It won't happen, stop wasting time
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I know it won't happen
I don't even believe it. The thing is, there should be somethig to catch Motorola's eyes. They actually still want to do only one major OS upgrade per device. Source - Motorola Official Blog - Say hello to Android Oreo:
Since the time of posting this, we have learned of some errors in our marketing materials around Android O upgrades for moto g4 Plus. It’s our general practice for the moto g family to get one major OS upgrade per device, so it wasn’t originally planned for Android O. But it’s important to us we keep our promises, so in addition to the N upgrade it has already received, we will be upgrading moto g4 Plus to Android O. Because this is an unplanned upgrade, it will take some time to fit into our schedule, we’ll update our software upgrade page when we have more info.
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I don't even believe it. The thing is, there should be somethig to catch Motorola's eyes. They actually still want to do only one major OS upgrade per device. Source - Motorola Official Blog - Say hello to Android Oreo:
Since the time of posting this, we have learned of some errors in our marketing materials around Android O upgrades for moto g4 Plus. It’s our general practice for the moto g family to get one major OS upgrade per device, so it wasn’t originally planned for Android O. But it’s important to us we keep our promises, so in addition to the N upgrade it has already received, we will be upgrading moto g4 Plus to Android O. Because this is an unplanned upgrade, it will take some time to fit into our schedule, we’ll update our software upgrade page when we have more info.
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Well, every older Moto G device (falcon, titan) recieved 2 major OS updates (falcon: Android Kitkat and Lollipop) (Titan: Lollipop and Marshamallow), meaning that the Moto G 2015 family (osprey and merlin) are the first and only moto g family to recieve only 1 major OS update. The G4 Play and the Moto X Style have the same or lower specs than the Moto G3 and G3 Turbo, but they DID recieve nougat, so the "too low specs" answer is just a lie. I personally own this device, and I´m using the 8GB version, wich might be a little too slow for Nougat or Oreo, but the 16GB and Turbo Variants would run those OS without any problem.
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Well, every older Moto G device (falcon, titan) recieved 2 major OS updates (falcon: Android Kitkat and Lollipop) (Titan: Lollipop and Marshamallow), meaning that the Moto G 2015 family (osprey and merlin) are the first and only moto g family to recieve only 1 major OS update. The G4 Play and the Moto X Style have the same or lower specs than the Moto G3 and G3 Turbo, but they DID recieve nougat, so the "too low specs" answer is just a lie. I personally own this device, and I´m using the 8GB version, wich might be a little too slow for Nougat or Oreo, but the 16GB and Turbo Variants would run those OS without any problem.
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Well, considering we got android oreo custom roms means that we DO have the specs for the updates, i think we will even get android 9 thabks to our developers. (I'm also on the 8Gb model, i'm out of space for sure but oreo runs perfectly)
M1810 said:
Well, considering we got android oreo custom roms means that we DO have the specs for the updates, i think we will even get android 9 thabks to our developers. (I'm also on the 8Gb model, i'm out of space for sure but oreo runs perfectly)
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Well, i havent tested oreo on this device yet, because it is in alpha and this is my daily driver. But i believe your word
I'm running Oreo now. Why waste time on something that will never happen?
KrisM22 said:
I'm running Oreo now. Why waste time on something that will never happen?
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Never say never
can we sue Motorola for delaying the oreo update for g4+ as they promised during the launch event of the g4+
I realise this might be poking a hornet's nest...
What grounds would you sue them on? Did Motorola promise a timeframe to release the Oreo update, besides saying they would release the (unplanned) update at some point in time? I'm just curious about how your argument would go.
let me make this very clear, ALL devices which are scheduled to oreo of 2017 devices will get first the update. THEN work will be done of the g4 plus!! You can get pissed off as much as you want but you can only sue Motorola once Google themselves leave support for oreo and even then the g4 plus was not updated.
We were lucky to have nougat on time as you may know, g5 family didnt received oreo update. For now only z family and x4 got update as they are there premium mid-range and flagship phones. On the other hand they where not even planning to update our phone to oreo , so depay is given. We will not get update until g5 family get and they deserve more then us(they didnt even got 1 major update)
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Keep in mind that last year, in February-March we already had Nougat on our devices, but the owners of G5 series didn't received Oreo and we're already in the beginning of May. See don't have any reasons to be mad at Motorola because they didn't update the G4 Plus to Oreo, as long as the last year phones didn't received their updates.
georgeiulian89 said:
Keep in mind that last year, in February-March we already had Nougat on our devices, but the owners of G5 series didn't received Oreo and we're already in the beginning of May. See don't have any reasons to be mad at Motorola because they didn't update the G4 Plus to Oreo, as long as the last year phones didn't received their updates.
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We got upfate in December. And nougat was released in August. Only 4 months after release
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DgnrtnX said:
We got upfate in December. And nougat was released in August. Only 4 months after release
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I was talking about official updates, not soak tests. I know, because I had Nougat on my phone since the first soak test was released, in December 2016.
ajaikumarnadar said:
can we sue Motorola for delaying the oreo update for g4+ as they promised during the launch event of the g4+
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Well, you wouldn't be suing Motorola; you would be suing Lenovo, and I don't see that working out in your favor at all.
georgeiulian89 said:
I was talking about official updates, not soak tests. I know, because I had Nougat on my phone since the first soak test was released, in December 2016.
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Yes im talking about official one. I got one on 5 January 2017. And thats the official not soak
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Sure! Why not add one more frivolous lawsuit to the court system? Just sayin'.
pastorbob62 said:
Sure! Why not add one more frivolous lawsuit to the court system? Just sayin'.
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I'm sorry my bad