Protect my Device from getting stolen - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

Hey guys Recently my Phone got stolen and this time I want to make sure this time it wont happen ever again. I will use Knox and Samsung Secruity to help from it. I have some question, maybe u can anwser them
1) If I lock my Device from Find my Mobile, can the Thief still Factory Reset from Power UP and Vol+ Button from Recovery?
2) Can He still install a Firmware per Odin so he can get acces to my Phone
3) If both can be done , is there anyway to pretend that from Happening?
4) Is knox as good as Icloud?
5) Can i still use find my mobile, if he turns GPS off?
Thanks for the help, this time I will make sure he wont get any benefit from it and I can get my Phone back

hamad138 said:
1) If I lock my Device from Find my Mobile, can the Thief still Factory Reset from Power UP and Vol+ Button from Recovery?
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I think this is something to do with the app you are using. In theory, you should be able to access the Recovery menu because it loads before the OS. Thus the find my phone app is not loaded and active when the recovery mode is loaded.
However, this is my opinion. And I might not be right. My expertise in the area is limited.

FRP lock should do most of the job for you but nowdays there are ways on bypassing that. But FRP is a pain in the ass to unlock , yet doable.

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Vibrant Locked Out

So, dumb self made a pattern that I don't remember. So my Vibrant is at the Too Many Pattern Attempts screen. I've tried to wipe the phone using vol up and down plus power but that doesn't remove the too many attempts screen at all. The only gmail account that I hooked up to my phone keeps telling me that something is incorrect yet I can log in to my gmail fine from my computer... What can I do? I tried to do Odin, but vol down plus power does nothing on my phone. It just continuously power cycles... When I boot into the recovery screen I can use Odin but it just hangs at checking files... Any suggestions?
Do you have coverage? Maybe the Google verification can't connect. It always worked on my myTouch and once on the Vibrant.
Sent from my Samsung Vibrant using the XDA app
Tmobile Galaxy S pattern locked out, can't root
I just bought my first Android device, the Samsung Galaxy S from Tmobile from the US (I live in China) last week. I have only used it a few days and my girlfriend thought the pattern lock would be a fun game to play. Result - locked out. I have the same problems as in the below thread:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=4784
I tried the receive a phone call then hammer the home key; emergency call and go to search and many of these type fixes; however none have gotten me through. It seems they fixed the security problem here but didn't fix the username password problem as I'm sure the credentials I entered are correct and I have data service.
After giving up on these methods I tried doing a hard reset. BTW, on this model you must hold down volume up AND down buttons at the same time, then press the power button to get the reset screen.
I have cleared user data etc, but when I try to reset the phone I get the error message "setup.zip not found".
I understand that I now need to root the phone, so I tried the method explained here but without having access to the phone I need to load this setup.zip file on the SD (not the one with Avatar).
http://samsungvibranthacks.com/samsung-vibrant-hacks/how-to-root-samsung-vibrant-galaxy-s/
I already installed Kies (has Outlook sync functionality!) on my desktop so that I can access the internal memory as an external drive. However the phone's USB mode must be set to (it will prompt whenever I connect) to Kies mode. However since I am locked out of the phone I can't tell the phone to get into Kies mode, therefore cannot access the internal memory, therefore cannot load setup.zip, therefore cannot root, therefore cannot get past the pattern lock screen = useless phone.
I need to root the phone anyway so I can load a few Asian IME's that didn't come with the phone so don't mind playing with this, but since I'm new to Android it may be a while before I can get through since most root instructions either require access to the internal memory via my computer or access to the phone (past the pattern lock).
If I offer to make a paypal donation could I summon the help of one of the more experienced Android gods that frequent this forum that can help me get through this?
To use odin you need to get into download mode not recovery mode (Volume Down+ Power) but since for some reason that wont work for you, you will have to do something involving the android sdk do you know how to use it?
Genesis1791 said:
To use odin you need to get into download mode not recovery mode (Volume Down+ Power) but since for some reason that wont work for you, you will have to do something involving the android sdk do you know how to use it?
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On one or two tries, when the device was attached to my laptop I got a yellow on black downloading screen but had no idea what it meant. How does this help me root it? In general the volume down+plus power button didn't do anything but reboot it.
I just downloaded the SDK last night for the last time and haven't succeeded in installing it so have still got a bit of learning to go before I can make it useful.
I have the phone back in my hand now so adding some details:
Holding volume up and down and the same time, then pressing powere gets me to the "Android system recover <2e>" screen with four options:
Reboot system now
reinstall packagages
delete all user data
delete cache data
I've tried all and none will get me out of the username/password screen after reboot. If I select "reinstall packages" it says:
E:can't open /sdcard/update.zip
(No such file or directory)
Installation aborted

People with hardware locked vibrants..

What can we do? I dont want to mess with anything again because i know if anything goes wrong i cant get in to download mode.. But i too want to flash the new roms and gps fixes. Is there anyway to make the hardware buttons unlocked?
Why not use adb? I used it and Odin for the first time two days ago flashing this new patch and it was quite simple. I, like you, have a hardware locked handset. Let's hope it didn't take you nearly the same two hours that it took me.
You can root using clockworks and run some of the patch through clockworks too. Try not to use odin unless you really know what you're doing. A lot have odin hang on them. Other than that, you can flash rom using clockworks.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
jonathan3579 said:
Why not use adb? I used it and Odin for the first time two days ago flashing this new patch and it was quite simple. I, like you, have a hardware locked handset. Let's hope it didn't take you nearly the same two hours that it took me.
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I received 1 of the new hardware-locked phones and used adb to get into "download mode" - but odin got stuck and I had to unplug the phone and tried plugging it back in and it didn't work. Once I took the battery out, I got the dreaded "phone to pc" icon. I tried a whole lotta combinations all read here on XDA - nothing worked. One I got that "phone to pc" icon - i was screwed. Adb doesn't work at that point.
Basically - I wouldn't use Odin with one of the newer vibrants - only update.zip stuff
*Just a suggestion*
TWO HOURS! Lucky SOB, took me over 4 hours, but I was at work with nothing better to do then to play with it on and off, google some more, crawl xda, play some more....rinse repeat...
But I don't think there will be an official "fix" as in their eyes nothing is broken. It is as they intended. I'm not really sure if this move was by tmo or samsung, but regardless it's a PITA. I used ADB. The hardest part is getting the drivers in, after that it's easy cake walk thanks to the wealth of knowledge here at xda.
glensta said:
I received 1 of the new hardware-locked phones and used adb to get into "download mode" - but odin got stuck and I had to unplug the phone and tried plugging it back in and it didn't work. Once I took the battery out, I got the dreaded "phone to pc" icon. I tried a whole lotta combinations all read here on XDA - nothing worked. One I got that "phone to pc" icon - i was screwed. Adb doesn't work at that point.
Basically - I wouldn't use Odin with one of the newer vibrants - only update.zip stuff
*Just a suggestion*
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exactly my point. this is what happened to me. but think about this lets say i flash a rom right and you know how sometimes it hangs on the vibrant screen and just stays there. and in order to get it back i am going have to use odin. which i cant.......... so i think i wont mess with anything anymore. Rather just wait for official 2.2 ota update.
Chief Geek said:
TWO HOURS! Lucky SOB, took me over 4 hours, but I was at work with nothing better to do then to play with it on and off, google some more, crawl xda, play some more....rinse repeat...
But I don't think there will be an official "fix" as in their eyes nothing is broken. It is as they intended. I'm not really sure if this move was by tmo or samsung, but regardless it's a PITA. I used ADB. The hardest part is getting the drivers in, after that it's easy cake walk thanks to the wealth of knowledge here at xda.
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Take it back and do a warranty exchange cause the buttons arent working correctly.
I've never tried it because I could never get Kies to connect to my phone, but isn't there a way to update firmware through Kies? I know the i9000 guys use Kies to upgrade, but I think that's only to get drivers and the updates though. I wish Samsung had a better interface than Odin to flash firmware. It's absolute garbage.
Hello, I am new to this android stuff but think I may have a problem and no hardware keys may come into play.
I rooted my phone for no other reason than to remove bloatware
I removed what I new was safe and left alot on the phone just because I was not sure what to remove
Phone was working great and had no problems
I decided I wanted to do a factory reset to remove all my apps and user data etc.....
I did do a titanium back up of my apps so I could easily resinstall if I wanted
I did the reset and now as soon as the phone boots I get TWLauncher force close and just about any other app that tries to load just continuose force close loop
I did not remove the original launcher so I am not sure why this is happening but I cant flash since I cant get into download mode and I cant use ADB since my phone wont let me put into debug what to do?????????????
glensta said:
I received 1 of the new hardware-locked phones and used adb to get into "download mode" - but odin got stuck and I had to unplug the phone and tried plugging it back in and it didn't work. Once I took the battery out, I got the dreaded "phone to pc" icon. I tried a whole lotta combinations all read here on XDA - nothing worked. One I got that "phone to pc" icon - i was screwed. Adb doesn't work at that point.
Basically - I wouldn't use Odin with one of the newer vibrants - only update.zip stuff
*Just a suggestion*
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This is how I got out of "phone to pc"
get into download mode (i went through it manually, as in plug in the phone, and pressing the volume buttons together at the same time)
Connected to ODIN, and by perfect accident, I clicked on "start" without placing ANY files in ANY spots.
This is what I thought "OMG $h!t" Well my phone was already bricked enough, so i just let it run its course through ODIN. My phone magically rebooted, and it booted into the ROM i had installed before I got the "phone to pc" problem.
Whats the disadvantage of having a hardware locked phone?
From what I'm reading i cant load custom roms? or can use Oden?
Also I just got mine and im sure its hardware locked but how can I tell
TIA
demo23019 said:
Whats the disadvantage of having a hardware locked phone?
From what I'm reading i cant load custom roms? or can use Oden?
Also I just got mine and im sure its hardware locked but how can I tell
TIA
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The disadvantage is that it is harder (maybe impossible in some situations?) to get into the Download mode if something goes wrong during a ROM update. You can still load custom ROMS but if something goes wrong, you might not be able to get to Download mode to be able to fix it.
I had the phone ! PC screen on mine when I first tried to unsuccessfully flash Vibrant8. Luckily, my Vibrant doesn't seem to be hardware locked and I was able to get back into Download mode and re-flash it with Odin.
I'm able to access download mode with volume keys and i can access recovery mode so i guess im ok
also date on box is 8/27/10
How do you know whether you have a hardware locked Vibrant or not?
No No No.......
When you can't get into Download MOde....
assuming you just got a Hang in ODIN Flasher...
1. Un-plug usb from Phone ( But still plugged into the Computer )
2. Pull Battery
3. Let the Phone sit for 15 to 30 seconds
4. Plug in USB to Both Phone & PC if not already
5. Hold Both Volume Buttons
6. Put Battery in while still holding Volume Buttons.
My Phone is HW Locked as well, with a v1 board.
every-time I get odin hang, doing the above always results in letting me re-flash.
These Phone's by Design are hard to brick, unless you>
A. Change SBL
B. Use the Wrong .pit file for Partitioning
C. param.lfs does not Brick the Phone, but Does mess with Screen rendering
~Eugene
eugene373 said:
No No No.......
When you can't get into Download MOde....
assuming you just got a Hang in ODIN Flasher...
1. Un-plug usb from Phone ( But still plugged into the Computer )
2. Pull Battery
3. Let the Phone sit for 15 to 30 seconds
4. Plug in USB to Both Phone & PC if not already
5. Hold Both Volume Buttons
6. Put Battery in while still holding Volume Buttons.
My Phone is HW Locked as well, with a v1 board.
every-time I get odin hang, doing the above always results in letting me re-flash.
These Phone's by Design are hard to brick, unless you>
A. Change SBL
B. Use the Wrong .pit file for Partitioning
C. param.lfs does not Brick the Phone, but Does mess with Screen rendering
~Eugene
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I trust what you're saying.. but is there any way to test that out without having an already bricked phone? I want to make sure I can recover my phone before flashing your Vibrant hybrid ROM. So after Step 6 do you get the download mode screen? Or does ODIN now show a COM port and it works, even without the little digger guy?
eugene373 said:
No No No.......
When you can't get into Download MOde....
assuming you just got a Hang in ODIN Flasher...
1. Un-plug usb from Phone ( But still plugged into the Computer )
2. Pull Battery
3. Let the Phone sit for 15 to 30 seconds
4. Plug in USB to Both Phone & PC if not already
5. Hold Both Volume Buttons
6. Put Battery in while still holding Volume Buttons.
My Phone is HW Locked as well, with a v1 board.
every-time I get odin hang, doing the above always results in letting me re-flash.
These Phone's by Design are hard to brick, unless you>
A. Change SBL
B. Use the Wrong .pit file for Partitioning
C. param.lfs does not Brick the Phone, but Does mess with Screen rendering
~Eugene
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First off, absolutely no disrespect Eugene, you are an amazing developer and a HUGE contribution to this forum, I personally love your work and have tried many of your ROM's (actually looking at switching up to your newest hybrid rom next), but there are most certainly some of these phones that are hardware locked to the point that you can not get in to download mode, regardless of what you do. The steps you posted definitely work for some, and for non-hardware locked phones, they work beautifully, however, there are some phones that no matter what you do, no matter what order you do it in, you will never get in to download mode short of using ADB. The good news is, the lockout was not intentional, and exchanging your hardware locked Vibrant will generally result in a non-hardware locked phone (from mine, and many other's personal experience).
johnny12times said:
First off, absolutely no disrespect Eugene, you are an amazing developer and a HUGE contribution to this forum, I personally love your work and have tried many of your ROM's (actually looking at switching up to your newest hybrid rom next), but there are most certainly some of these phones that are hardware locked to the point that you can not get in to download mode, regardless of what you do. The steps you posted definitely work for some, and for non-hardware locked phones, they work beautifully, however, there are some phones that no matter what you do, no matter what order you do it in, you will never get in to download mode short of using ADB. The good news is, the lockout was not intentional, and exchanging your hardware locked Vibrant will generally result in a non-hardware locked phone (from mine, and many other's personal experience).
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Download Mode is controlled by SBL, so if they truly changed anything that would be the cause.
I would think you could target redbend to update the SBL or even boot.bin bml /stl location.. I've not tried this, nor do I need too.. Just tossing options out there for people to try & don't mind risking a brick..
If you can get the SBL / Boot.bin for the Stock to flash via redbend, then this will solve the HW locks.. Now, Regarding my Phone, I can still get into Download Mode however, only by doing the USB trick &/or ADB reboot download.
I can not get into recovery unless I use clockwork Manager or ADB into
By the way, this is not a Hardware Lock issue as the thread states.. Not being able to get into download Mode like described, is a zImage issue & not the SBL / BOOT.bin
just as a FYI.
~Eugene
Hello, I am new to this android stuff but think I may have a problem and no hardware keys may come into play.
I rooted my phone for no other reason than to remove bloatware
I removed what I new was safe and left alot on the phone just because I was not sure what to remove
Phone was working great and had no problems
I decided I wanted to do a factory reset to remove all my apps and user data etc.....
I did do a titanium back up of my apps so I could easily resinstall if I wanted
I did the reset and now as soon as the phone boots I get TWLauncher force close and just about any other app that tries to load just continuose force close loop
I did not remove the original launcher so I am not sure why this is happening but I cant flash since I cant get into download mode and I cant use ADB since my phone wont let me put into debug what to do?????????????
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Its happening because you ran a full titanium backup including system data. Yeah, dont do that. Reflash, then reinstall user apps with data, and pick and choose the system ones that are obvious (mms, bluetooth settings, wireless settings, etc.) Then reboot for changes to take effect. When in doubt, dont restore.
Good luck. Although you won't need it if you do what I just told you.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
Just to share...
eugene373 said:
No No No.......
When you can't get into Download MOde....
assuming you just got a Hang in ODIN Flasher...
1. Un-plug usb from Phone ( But still plugged into the Computer )
2. Pull Battery
3. Let the Phone sit for 15 to 30 seconds
4. Plug in USB to Both Phone & PC if not already
5. Hold Both Volume Buttons
6. Put Battery in while still holding Volume Buttons.
My Phone is HW Locked as well, with a v1 board.
every-time I get odin hang, doing the above always results in letting me re-flash.
These Phone's by Design are hard to brick, unless you>
A. Change SBL
B. Use the Wrong .pit file for Partitioning
C. param.lfs does not Brick the Phone, but Does mess with Screen rendering
~Eugene
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I had the phone!computer bricked Vibrant, and just got my replacement from Asurion (in fact, of the phones in front of me are from Asurion since my original got stolen 2days after it came out ).
On phone1: The original TMO date is 8/12/2010, while the Asurion date is 8/19/2010. Also the ID is GJ/HLP. This one was HW Locked.
On phone2: The original TMO date is 9/2/2010, while the Asurion date is 9/10/2010. Also the ID is SM/HLP. This one doesn't seem to be HW Loocked, I can get into recovery easily, DL Mode ... not so much . Booting with vol+&- gets me into recovery, but booting with just vol- does nothing ...
Any thoughts?

[Q] Tablet Ultimate Brick

So i was trying the new beta for PA android and when i was on recovery wiping as usual, the wipe process just froze there for a while, i decided to leave it till it worked again but to no avail it didnt budge at all, so i commited the ultimate sin, and powered it off by holding the power button...
when i tried again tu turn it on the tablet would go thru the google with the padlock screen and then show me a black screen with a little logo of clockworkmod and a version number below, the screen itself has no use since no matter what button i press it does nothing, other than that the tablet keeps rebooting after that.
when i try any combination of buttons to access either the real recovery or the bootloader the tablet just plain ignores that im trying to turn it on, just doesnt work, it just turns on if im not pressing anything besides the power button.
to sum up to all my problems i would love to keep trying and see if at anypoint it will turn to bootloader, i havent seen the notification of the tablet being charged... meaning that i dont know if it has enough battery to last me the remaning ideas i had.
So in a nutshell
-no bootloader
-no fastboot
-no recovery
-cant tell if battery or not
Please if anyone knows how to fix or at least get me to a bootloader i would fix everything else, but i really need the guidance here
Have you tried another charger and cable? A simple idea, but not one to over look.
Without bootloader menu or recovery, not much you can do. I'd work on getting into one of those first. Not much you can do until then.
Osivanlou said:
So i was trying the new beta for PA android and when i was on recovery wiping as usual, the wipe process just froze there for a while, i decided to leave it till it worked again but to no avail it didnt budge at all, so i commited the ultimate sin, and powered it off by holding the power button...
when i tried again tu turn it on the tablet would go thru the google with the padlock screen and then show me a black screen with a little logo of clockworkmod and a version number below, the screen itself has no use since no matter what button i press it does nothing, other than that the tablet keeps rebooting after that.
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Are you able to get adb to recognize the device with "adb devices"?
KJ said:
Have you tried another charger and cable? A simple idea, but not one to over look.
Without bootloader menu or recovery, not much you can do. I'd work on getting into one of those first. Not much you can do until then.
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Yeah ive tried 4 other chargers, and nothing new, i know that the os itself takes care of the charging as does the recovery in some cases, but since i have non i dont know if its gonna charge at all or not and trying doesnt sound really appealing since i should save battery in case theres a solution and needs battery power
but thanks for the answer
[email protected] said:
Are you able to get adb to recognize the device with "adb devices"?
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Dont really know how to check, i mean i could get into the tools and try the command Adb Devices but how should i even begin to test? i mean shouldnt i be in a adb static platform on the device? if i try to get into bootloader it just doesnt turn on, and when it does it goes straight to the black screen with the clockworkmod symbol and numbers
Thanks for the answer
Osivanlou said:
Dont really know how to check, i mean i could get into the tools and try the command Adb Devices but how should i even begin to test? i mean shouldnt i be in a adb static platform on the device? if i try to get into bootloader it just doesnt turn on, and when it does it goes straight to the black screen with the clockworkmod symbol and numbers
Thanks for the answer
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if you have enough battery and can get pc to see is thru adb. you may be able to fastboot a new rom onto the device. You can from pc Request device to go into bootloader or fast boot from the PC..
This is your only shot.. I Would suggest borrow a friends Nexus 7 Full Battery . If you do not know how to do any of this . Use skips root kit and use the unbrick or factory reset. it will force your device into fast boot and flash a new rom.
Good Luck
erica_renee said:
if you have enough battery and can get pc to see is thru adb. you may be able to fastboot a new rom onto the device. You can from pc Request device to go into bootloader or fast boot from the PC..
This is your only shot.. I Would suggest borrow a friends Nexus 7 Full Battery . If you do not know how to do any of this . Use skips root kit and use the unbrick or factory reset. it will force your device into fast boot and flash a new rom.
Good Luck
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yeh i know how to use the skip toolkit, yet i hope i have enough battery for the test, because the only friend that i know owns a nexus 7 left the country a few months back, so the battery sounds like its gonna be hard to get. Anyways, as u were saying theres a posibility that while the tablet is rebooting and rebooting it might be able to be found on the adb devices? and use the fastboot, cuz if thats true u would be the hero ive been waiting for...
imma check and tell u later,
thanks for the answer

Unlock S5 Lockscreen without internet connection

Hi everyone,
Sorry if this has been answered before but I've done some serious searching and can't find anything. I've found my old S5 to which I've forgotten the lockscreen pin. I would normally reset it using my Google account but I no longer have a sim that fits nor can I set up a new WiFi connection without access to the settings.
The device is not rooted nor do I think ISB debugging is enabled.
Thanks in advance!
Boot to recovery and factory reset
Volume up & home & power from a powered off state
*Detection* said:
Boot to recovery and factory reset
Volume up & home & power from a powered off state
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Thanks, I should have made a note that I'm hoping not to have to reset it. I'd much rather be able to access it to see if I have left anything important on there.
If you flashed TWRP you might be able to wipe the security via recovery - but the security is there to prevent exactly what you are trying to do, so it won't be a couple of buttons to press
iirc, you have to adb in from recovery or something, but never done it myself
Flash TWRP with ODIN and have a google on removing lock screen security from TWRP
Or buy a SIM for £1 and top it up £5 (Or whatever your countries £ is
EDIT - Could give this a try
http://techbeasts.com/2014/03/07/by...id-device-without-any-data-loss-how-to-guide/
Make a backup in TWRP first (Could always restore the data side of the backup with TiBu after resetting which would ignore the lock I imagine)

Samsung S8 Problem to Reset - Volume Buttons Depressed

Please, help me
I have a problem with my Samsung S8 phone that I recently bought on the web.
I would like to reset it but the volume buttons are depressed and do not work.
When I want to turn off the phone he asks me the pin code. Obviously, I do not have it. I am then
I tried to go through Odin but I do not know too much this software and then I tried to go through dr.fone but the S8 version is not yet available.
How can I turn off the phone?
And how can I reset it?
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR ADVICES MY FRIENDS
jake594 said:
Please, help me
I have a problem with my Samsung S8 phone that I recently bought on the web.
I would like to reset it but the volume buttons are depressed and do not work.
When I want to turn off the phone he asks me the pin code. Obviously, I do not have it. I am then
I tried to go through Odin but I do not know too much this software and then I tried to go through dr.fone but the S8 version is not yet available.
How can I turn off the phone?
And how can I reset it?
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR ADVICES MY FRIENDS
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Try to get to download mode. Look to see if frp lock is disabled before you reset. If reactivation lock is on remove Google accounts first.
Go to settings, general and then reset

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