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[Q] What is your opinion?

What's going on? To let you know, I am 25 years old and trying to rationalize my decision. Maybe you can help...
Got my Epic 2 days ago. Horrible battery life and ect... tried all the fixins without root due to a 'could be' voided warranty.
I don't want a phone that I have to hack to get it to work 'right'. That isn't the way to do things.
I am to much of an idiot to figure out how to root, delete bloatware, and etc... How am I supposed to figure this stuff out with people telling you that your a 'noob' and 'search' for it...
I might as well return the Epic and get a 'dumb' phone that does the basic phone call and text...
What do you think?

Return it and get a htc phone. I had the epic for 3 days, and really liked some of it, but really hated even more of it. Plus they fight too damn much here in the epic section.
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These new smartphones don't get anywhere close to the battery life of old non-smart phones. I could get up to a week on my old feature phone, but a day to maybe two (when we get 2.2) is about what you can expect if you tweak a few things. Get used to plugging in your phone every night, all the power these phones have comes at a price. Plus I'm sure you're playing with your phone a lot right now since you just got it .
If you're getting bad battery life when the screen is off go into Settings>About Phone>Battery Use>Cell Standby and see what the "Time without signal says". If it's 50% or more then you have the bug, it's a common Android bug for phones without Froyo. Just toggle airplane mode on for a few seconds after you reboot your phone and it should go away.
The GPS is kind of fussy at the moment, the Epic has a problem with clearing old data out of the cache and so it has a hard time picking up satellites. There's a few workarounds to this like going into the GPS menu and changing how it starts up (personally it didn't work for me), rebooting the phone always works, but if you use the GPS a lot then it works fine. For me it worked about 70% of the time until I rooted and installed a program to clear the phone's cache every few hours, now it works 100%.
Don't be intimidated by rooting either, it's really easy now with all the good One Click setups. I did it on my Mac and it took no more then 10 minutes, unrooting is just as easy. I honestly wouldn't worry about voiding the warranty, until you get into flashing roms/kernals you won't be messing anything up if you want to root to get rid of bloatware etc.
Sprint's other phones like the Evo are nice too, but the Evo has it's own set of problems. Personally I love my SAMOLED screen and we should be getting Froyo soon.

I've only had mine for about a week or so now and I really like it. I've discovered that particularly hungry apps will kill the battery in a hurry!
other than that, this being my first smartphone I've kinda been under the assumption that if you want to carry around a powerful computer in your pocket, you're going to have to make the trade off that it will burn a lot of battery when you use it. Especially since I'm still in the "open it up every few minutes just to be amazed at the amoled screen" phase where my display is consistently the #1 battery killer by a LONG shot..
so I'd say you should give it a chance but if you don't need or want a smart phone then don't drive yourself crazy with one and get a feature phone that can text and call if that's all you really need.

Toast95135 said:
These new smartphones don't get anywhere close to the battery life of old non-smart phones.
Don't be intimidated by rooting either, it's really easy now with all the good One Click setups. I did it on my Mac and it took no more then 10 minutes, unrooting is just as easy. I honestly wouldn't worry about voiding the warranty, until you get into flashing roms/kernals you won't be messing anything up if you want to root to get rid of bloatware etc.
Sprint's other phones like the Evo are nice too, but the Evo has it's own set of problems. Personally I love my SAMOLED screen and we should be getting Froyo soon.
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Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't mind rooting the phone and have seen it done on youtube. That shouldn't be too hard. But how would I go about getting all the extra crap on there off? Does this alone improve battery life? If not, what do I delete?
Is waiting for 2.2 really going to be God sent for our phones? And will 2.2 erase all my hard work rooting it?
Thank You for your time... It means alot.

Try this... go into the "Account & sync" settings by pressing the menu button> settings> account & sync. then uncheck "auto-sync" that should increase battery, if that didn't increase battery enough for you uncheck background data as well. finally if your still not satisfied re-enable "background data" by checking it again and go to the android market and download 'QUICK SETTINGS" by Sergej Shafarenaka open it press the hardware menu button> customize and drag "Mobile data" (not the one that says APN) into "Visible settings" that way whenever you open "quick settings" you can toggle 3g on and off. with 3g off you can still text and receive and make phone calls and your battery will last over 2 days without charging. hope this help I have never rooted my epic btw.
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And only because I don't feel like trying to produce evidence of 2+ days with my phone due to the fact that I actually like using all of the fun battery killing apps that run in the background because I have a spare battery anyway.. the only time I really ever try to maximize my battery life (and no this does NOT mean by not using my phone, because trust me i'm the perfect example of that windows phone ad im always in my phone! and i never let it die without a spare lol) is on the weekends I when I party all day & night, or some sort of rare special occasion where I know I'm not going to see a outlet for a long time.
anyway heres a example of whats possible by doing the last things i suggested (despite the fact whoever screen captured this achieved it a different way) basically disable internet whenever your not using it. just goes to show there are many ways to maximize your battery. this is just one of the ways I do it... and I feel this is highly effective.
These smartphones needs a one click "energy saver mode" that just does all the tweaks for you, basically turning your "smartphone" into a "dumbphone" lol because I honestly have little doubt this phone would last nearly a weak if it did.

curving_edge said:
What's going on? To let you know, I am 25 years old and trying to rationalize my decision. Maybe you can help...
Got my Epic 2 days ago. Horrible battery life and ect... tried all the fixins without root due to a 'could be' voided warranty.
I don't want a phone that I have to hack to get it to work 'right'. That isn't the way to do things.
I am to much of an idiot to figure out how to root, delete bloatware, and etc... How am I supposed to figure this stuff out with people telling you that your a 'noob' and 'search' for it...
I might as well return the Epic and get a 'dumb' phone that does the basic phone call and text...
What do you think?
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Get a dumb phone the battery will last you a week! oh and you can make and receive calls from it. My vote

There are so many threads on here where people tell you exactly how to get amazing battery life out of your phone. It must be a defunct battery because I cannot comprehend how anyone could be having problems with their battery after the number of times its been answered on this forum alone.
Disable DRM
toggle airplane mode
wifi never sleep
juicedefender + ultimate juice
Easily 20-24 hours of battery life for medium use.

If u want batt life get a dumb phone. If u want geautures get a smartphone. I can't live without a smartphone bc I use it like a computer to stay connected all day when I'm away from home. If u feel u don't really need all the feutures get a dumb phone.
Sent from my Epic 4G

Thank You for your replies thus far. I am pleased to inform you that I went back to the sprint store and got a brand new replacement. New battery and everything.
I have followed all of your directions as well. I will post soon and let you know how everything is.
I have alot of confidence in the epic but wish the battery wasn't giving me a epic headache!
Wish me luck, I owe you guys alot of respect. Will keep you posted...

curving_edge said:
I might as well return the Epic and get a 'dumb' phone that does the basic phone call and text...
What do you think?
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Sounds like you're not smartphone friendly. Many people I know are not. But luckily there's a large and varied assortment of devices to choose from. Get a phone that makes phone calls, and maybe messages well, and be happy.

I have had the phone off the charger since yesterday at 11pm and it is now 2 pm eastern time today. Looks great and promising. I will follow up on the research. I also have seen 'how to' root the epic on youtube. Thats easy, just working on how to get the bloatware off and other items to tweak...
-Curv

I have no idea how people get more than a day out of their phones, no matter the model. Every phone I've ever owned ranging from dumb, quick messeging and smart, I've had to charge every night. Its been like this for 6+ years for me.
Getting more than a day out of a phone is unrealistic to me.
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When I first got my phone it took me awhile to learn the basics on how to root and what not, hence the fact it was my first android device (other then the evo, which I didnt root or anything) Root is easy and once you do that you can flash different ROM's/Kernel's to help improve your battery life. I enjoy flashing to new things and once android 2.2 comes out there will be bigger and better things in stored for us.
Now what I didnt realize when I first tried to root my phone was to download SDK manager? It took me the longest time to root, I followed every direction I found which a lot of them never stated to download SDK because they assumed we knew. If you really want to have fun and root your phone then here is what I suggest.
1. Search Google for "SDK Android" click the first link to download it. (may take up to 30+ mins to download everything)
2. Read the Wiki in the Epic Android Development Section. Learn what rooting does to your phone. It also explains how to root your device.
That's how I rooted my phone, now changing ROM's/Kernels is another thing but that too is VERY easy. If you need help I will be willing to help you, I too am and noob and speak NOOB language lol.

sryans2004 said:
When I first got my phone it took me awhile to learn the basics on how to root and what not, hence the fact it was my first android device (other then the evo, which I didnt root or anything) Root is easy and once you do that you can flash different ROM's/Kernel's to help improve your battery life. I enjoy flashing to new things and once android 2.2 comes out there will be bigger and better things in stored for us.
Now what I didnt realize when I first tried to root my phone was to download SDK manager? It took me the longest time to root, I followed every direction I found which a lot of them never stated to download SDK because they assumed we knew. If you really want to have fun and root your phone then here is what I suggest.
1. Search Google for "SDK Android" click the first link to download it. (may take up to 30+ mins to download everything)
2. Read the Wiki in the Epic Android Development Section. Learn what rooting does to your phone. It also explains how to root your device.
That's how I rooted my phone, now changing ROM's/Kernels is another thing but that too is VERY easy. If you need help I will be willing to help you, I too am and noob and speak NOOB language lol.
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Hey sry... Thanks for the hand up on this situation. Should I wait till 2.2 or maybe try a root now? I might as well do it now and get familiar with it...
Pm me if you like, I will try the root this weekend. Thanks alot!

If you care about battery life and want a smartphone, Blackberries are the way to go. Just don't expect anywhere near the features, customizability, or power of Android. Also, don't expect anywhere nearly as good hardware.
Everything is a compromise. I imagine though that you if hold out on the Epic, the Epic equal of this, an EVO extended battery will come out.

My old flip phone has worse battery life than my Moment

Nexus 4 major problems.

Hello.
How many of you have serious problems with n4? I mean random reboots/shutdowns or freezes etc. I heard about this kind of troubles but I want to know if it occurs to many people or is this single cases.
Greetings.
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no problems here. im very happy with my nexus 4

Anything you've read about reboots etc is just false conjecture. History has shown through various outlets like XDA, Google+ etc that the Nexus 4 is rock solid and stable. So much so the Nexus 5, whatever it may be has to be SIGNIFICANTLY better in design and features before I even consider upgrading. Which I doubt I will because the N4 is just perfect for me.

simms22 said:
no problems here, on my n4. im very happy with my nexus 4
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Same here.
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Nope perfect.
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Works fine as ever
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Even with browsing, the temperature is usually above 50 C. Its was never like this on 4.2.2. Rest all is fine i guess
All stock.
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I'm getting freezes, random reboots,overheating...

oblikas said:
I'm getting freezes, random reboots,overheating...
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overheating.. and what is your cpu temp? or are you just saying overheating because it "feels" hot to you? overheating can be real, but its mostly imagined by the user.
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filthykid said:
Even with browsing, the temperature is usually above 50 C. Its was never like this on 4.2.2. Rest all is fine i guess
All stock.
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50C is normal.

simms22 said:
overheating.. and what is your cpu temp? or are you just saying overheating because it "feels" hot to you? overheating can be real, but its mostly imagined by the user.
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50C is normal.
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55-60° on browsing + music..
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oblikas said:
55-60° on browsing + music..
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thats normal. considering that its summer there where you are, and the air temperature is warm, thats very normal. the phone temperature while being used will average lower when its cooler there. the phones safety shutdown is at 100C cpu temp, so you are still quite a bit in the safe range.

No problems or over heating after about 10 months of heavy usage!

I can't understand why some people have so many problems with the Nexus 4, mine does no random reboot/lock now (last time I rebooted to install 4.3)...
I had a problem with over-night lockups (i was not the only one), so I disabled a lot of apps/widgets, and got many days without lockups. So I started turning everything back again, one by one. I had a suspect always in my mind: dashclock, I never turned it up again (it has so many plugins, including some made by me with Tasker). I can't tell for sure dashclock was the culprit it's an excellent app, and I ended giving up other apps too (I really didn't used them frequently ).
But I learned that apps can create random reboots... (the system should still handle this, but appears it does not).
So, I don't think anything is wrong with the hardware, since software can take a system down to.
The Nexus 4 is a great phone.
My only dislike is: now on 4.3, I have to use "hangouts" (no status?!) instead of talk (i may root to get talk back).
PS: I've disabled Hangouts, it is of no use to me.

muldy said:
I can't understand why some people have so many problems with the Nexus 4, mine does no random reboot/lock now (last time I rebooted to install 4.3)...
I had a problem with over-night lockups (i was not the only one), so I disabled a lot of apps/widgets, and got many days without lockups. So I started turning everything back again, one by one. I had a suspect always in my mind: dashclock, I never turned it up again (it has so many plugins, including some made by me with Tasker). I can't tell for sure dashclock was the culprit it's an excellent app, and I ended giving up other apps too (I really didn't used them frequently ).
But I learned that apps can create random reboots... (the system should still handle this, but appears it does not).
So, I don't think anything is wrong with the hardware, since software can take a system down to.
The Nexus 4 is a great phone.
My only dislike is: now on 4.3, I have to use "hangouts" (no status?!) instead of talk (i may root to get talk back).
PS: I've disabled Hangouts, it is of no use to me.
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as you said, most of the "issues" are user set up. the heat issue is blown out of proportion by too many, when the issue is a non issue. they "feel" the heat more because of the glass back.
anyways, the great thing about root.. im using talk on 4.3
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filthykid said:
Even with browsing, the temperature is usually above 50 C. Its was never like this on 4.2.2. Rest all is fine i guess
All stock.
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well flash a custom Kernel which will undervolt the phone and then use an app to underclock the GPU not the CPU. I get 30-35 max, 5-6 hours of battery (4.2.2 ) I tried the 4.3 and did not like how it works.

Loud pops and crackles on the first 4-5 seconds of video taken with the camera.
Poor 3G signal/reception performance from update to update. 4.1 bad, 4.2 good, 4.3 bad again.

styckx said:
Anything you've read about reboots etc is just false conjecture. History has shown through various outlets like XDA, Google+ etc that the Nexus 4 is rock solid and stable. So much so the Nexus 5, whatever it may be has to be SIGNIFICANTLY better in design and features before I even consider upgrading. Which I doubt I will because the N4 is just perfect for me.
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conjecture?
Since the 4.3 upgrade my Nexus 4 is essentially a paper weight. First it just refused to go beyond the X screen. After a downgrade of the radio back to 4.2.2 version, I could start up. After that, the problems weren't over. My N4 locks the SIM at random, shuts down a couple of times every hour and refuses to restart without being plugged in. Even when fully charged.
Worse: reflashing an older factory img (I tried 4.2 and 4.2.2) does not resolve these issues. Nor does flashing AOKP. Which is just bizarre, because my N4 worked perfectly before the upgrade. How can an upgrade lead to hardware problems?
I'm not alone.(but I can't post outside links, apparently.) There's a support thread on the google groups forum 6 pages long.

Joenr76 said:
conjecture?
Since the 4.3 upgrade my Nexus 4 is essentially a paper weight. First it just refused to go beyond the X screen. After a downgrade of the radio back to 4.2.2 version, I could start up. After that, the problems weren't over. My N4 locks the SIM at random, shuts down a couple of times every hour and refuses to restart without being plugged in. Even when fully charged.
Worse: reflashing an older factory img (I tried 4.2 and 4.2.2) does not resolve these issues. Nor does flashing AOKP. Which is just bizarre, because my N4 worked perfectly before the upgrade. How can an upgrade lead to hardware problems?
I'm not alone.(but I can't post outside links, apparently.) There's a support thread on the google groups forum 6 pages long.
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Are you wiping your partitions in fastboot before flashing the images? Sounds like an error somewhere is causing serious issues for you. It probably stemmed from a bad download and has yet to be corrected. I would wipe EVERYTHING and start with a clean slate. Re-download the images and verify the md5.

KSLevel11 said:
Hello.
How many of you have serious problems with n4? I mean random reboots/shutdowns or freezes etc. I heard about this kind of troubles but I want to know if it occurs to many people or is this single cases.
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I've had random re-boots, shut downs and freezes up to and exceeding 10 times a day, during phone calls.... youtube, web browser. you name it. there is no disparity.
it's random. . . it doesn't care when it wants to re-boot. - i've had this problem since the day i received my nexus 4 on January 2nd 2013
It doesn't matter if it's running stock android. rooted or not rooted locked or unlocked.... freshly installed, new rom, different build or new offical stock build.. ~ maybe some builds it has been a little bit more stable.... but there was a short period where i just left the phone as is...
no updates.... no new software.... nothing..... it was working fine for a couple of weeks then the random reboots started all over again.
so i have no idea... honestly.... i've heard every reason imaginable.... it's this software, it's that widget. . . it ain't true.
the problems persist.... on a fresh install....no widgets running... no software downloaded.....
ive tried cyanogen mod for the last few months.... it's been better.
but it's starting the problems all over again... so today i wiped the entire phone.... in a last ditch effort to get it stable....
i'm stuck now without an OS and i can't get fastboot recognized in the command prompt..... i don't know what to do now... ive been reading threads for hours without success.... installing driver, sdk.... you name it....
it ain't bricked..... but i sure can't get android back on there without an OTG cable and that doesn't work on nexus 4. well.... mine anyway.
i just want stock android 4.3 or 4.2 ... "ANYTHING" running... with minimal apps and something stable.... that's all i care about. i can't afford another phone at this time.... so i'm completely stumped.
so . . . there are others like you... that ARE having major hiccups with their NEXUS 4's......
my friends at collage all have the same phone without ANY problems at all..... BUT there are some of us....
who have just had bad luck all the way....

Did you try to RMA?

[Discussion] The LG G5 discussion thread

Hello LG G5 users , feel free to talk here about anything related to the LG G5 :good:
Thread Rules
1. Respect the others
2. This is an LG G5 thread , do not talk about any other LG phone here.
3. Use appropriate langage.
4. And of course , respect xda rules.
So what do you think about this LG phone ?

Hi guys , thread opened thanks to @KennyG123 , now that the G5 is out and available for sale feel free to share your experience in this discussion thread.
I will update it later with infos , reviews , battery tests..etc.
Enjoy

This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.

@CorruptProfile Thank you very much sir for this first well detailed feedback.
How about other things like the camera , performance ( if you tried any intensive game ) ? Is it buttery smooth or LG 5.0 UX suffer from lags ?

CorruptProfile said:
This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.
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Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)

Killua96 said:
Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)
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It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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Soufiansky said:
It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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Nope, there is a third option shown in the UX 5.0 video and confirmed by T-Mobile users
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk8Zs3Mlbcs
Look at 2:19

I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.

CorruptProfile said:
I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.
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Thank you again for the feedback , when i come back home i will post the links you send me in pm

Thanks to @CorruptProfile
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How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?

Mew351 said:
How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.

Soufiansky said:
It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.
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I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me

Mew351 said:
I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/

Mew351 said:
How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.

Mew351 said:
The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/
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Note 5 ? Nexus 6P ? We're going in an off topic here...
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I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.
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What about the module thing ? I saw a lot of issues about it these days
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I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.

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I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.
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No i was talking about the stock battery module , you haven't faced any issue ? Because some people were reporting bad screen colors reproduction next to the module , others said it started taking off....etc.
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I think I have to return my S7 Edge...

I took the jump to Android from Windows Phone and I really liked the S7 Edge form factor and looks however it is just too buggy and has hardware problems so I think I might have to try an iPhone (scary). Here are my list of problems with the S7 Edge:
SD card problems - known issue HW rev problems - nag screen as well as lost apps installed on the SD card
Random reboots - many a day
Thumbprint recognition - seems like it takes me 3-4 thumbprints every time - why?
English Language Pack storage bug - eats all my space - it keeps coming back even if disabled - 2nd time ran out of space on the phone - 16-18GB footprint for this - why? what does this app do?
WIPES MY PHONES - this has happened TWICE - this is the deal breaker - I even turned on 'avoid turning on while in pocket' - doesn't matter when i go for hikes or ski in the cold maybe - it WIPES MY ENTIRE PHONE - not good
bugs with texting and message+ - seem like the phone freezes when texting - can't finish typing - message+ crashes - this is major pain
Lots of apps crashing randomly - not sure why
I really want to make this phone work but the WIPING of the DEVICE twice for me means full day of lost productivity for my traveling job. I can't be rebuilding my phone every few weeks. Is this acceptable for Samsung's flagship phone? I am open and patient to technology and not biased one way or the other (I do miss some features on my Windows Phone).

I think if You are having that many issues with your S7 Edge then you Should return it! Just because this is an Android forum doesn't have to mean going to an iPhone is scary. I live in both the Android and iPhone world and it's a-ok! Now a non-jailbroken iPhone can be much more limiting than a stock Android device but it is still a nice phone and works well out of the box. Maybe you should just return your phone as a defective one or look at the apps your are installing to see if one or two or more are causing the conflicts and issues and reboots. I haven't experienced the problems that you have except reboots after installing the latest version of iHeart Radio (now using an older version and absol6no problems) and the Good Lock app from Samsung was rebooting my phone so I Uninstalled it right away.
My S7 Edge has to be one of the coolest and most beautiful phones I have ever owned. Out of the box it is very, very customizable and even without rooting still offers so many possibilities that I could never do with my iPhone straight out of the box. There are alternatives to try out for the apps that you are currently using and where you might end up liking even more than your current favorites (I suggest trying Yaata text messaging app. Works very well! There's a discussion thread here on XDA-DEVELOPERS too). Good luck with your decision.
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This really seems like a bad piece you should replace, and you will be probably fine. I havent encountered any problems aside of one SD card dying unexpectedly (probably faulty SD tho), and the poor palm rejection when typipng with one hand/upside down (this has however been largely fixed by the latest update). Otherwise, no problems at all.

burrzoo said:
I think if You are having that many issues with your S7 Edge then you Should return it! Just because this is an Android forum doesn't have to mean going to an iPhone is scary. I live in both the Android and iPhone world and it's a-ok! Now a non-jailbroken iPhone can be much more limiting than a stock Android device but it is still a nice phone and works well out of the box. Maybe you should just return your phone as a defective one or look at the apps your are installing to see if one or two or more are causing the conflicts and issues and reboots. I haven't experienced the problems that you have except reboots after installing the latest version of iHeart Radio (now using an older version and absol6no problems) and the Good Lock app from Samsung was rebooting my phone so I Uninstalled it right away.
My S7 Edge has to be one of the coolest and most beautiful phones I have ever owned. Out of the box it is very, very customizable and even without rooting still offers so many possibilities that I could never do with my iPhone straight out of the box. There are alternatives to try out for the apps that you are currently using and where you might end up liking even more than your current favorites (I suggest trying Yaata text messaging app. Works very well! There's a discussion thread here on XDA-DEVELOPERS too). Good luck with your decision.
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Thanks burrzoo. This is my first Android so maybe I had high expectations or maybe I just got a bad one. I am patient and understand bugs, random oddities since I have only owned Windows Phones up until this point if that tells you about device/HW patience, hacked many ROMs here, etc. so I like the extensibility of the Android platform as a replacement but I guess the Verizon S7 is locked so no custom ROMs? I will say however none of those Windows phones every wiped my phone like the S7 did twice.
As far as installed apps I have really basic apps - Office, Outlook, social apps. Nothing special really. The English Language Pack is an Android installed app that comes with the S7 so there is no way to remove it apparently. I did disable a lot of the default Google, Samsung and Android apps since i don't use them. Maybe i have to leave it more stock to avoid problems? I dunno - if you guys can help me explain the WIPING of my device or HOW to prevent this that would go a long way.

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This is my first Android so maybe I had high expectations or maybe I just got a bad one.
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amazing how all that could happen on your first android device. coming from Apple mate?

Jomari29 said:
amazing how all that could happen on your first android device. coming from Apple mate?
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Jomari,
No, I have only owned Windows Phones. I am open to either platform as a replacement. I have never owned an iPhone either but if this is the first class android experience then I would say it hasn't been so great.

I did not experienced all those problems you mentioned, my S7E is buttery smooth.

Strange, I'm having none of these issues. I would suggest you might have a faulty model.

I'd say you have a defective device.
Mine has no issues at all so far.
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xchasa said:
I'd say you have a defective device.
Mine has no issues at all so far.
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okay, thanks everyone. Looks like I am past the 14 days return policy and Samsung warranty won't swap hardware. Any thoughts on what I can do to get a new device? Samsung offered for me to send in the device and they can evaluate it and replace faulty HW - should i do that?
I did find two things in my searches for some of my issues:
1) There is an 'Auto-Factory Reset' device option set to ON on the S7 Edge under 'Lock Screen and security' > 'Secure lock settings' > 'Auto-factory reset' on/off toggle. I think this may be the main problem on the device I am trying to solve. On my Verizon device the checkbox is greyed out. Can you guys disable auto-wipe on your devices? The question becomes how is it auto-factory reset in my pocket when i have 'detect device in pocket' and i have locked screen. Is it flipping on somehow with movement? Why would they not have a 'are you sure you want to factory/reset?' if this is accidental?
2) On a fun note - I think I found an Android easter egg or maybe not? on 6.0.1 when I was trying to enable dev unlock (not sure if it is documented) - you can play an Android Flappy bird game:
Go to Settings > About Phone > Android Version 6.0.1 and then click it about 5 times in succession rapidly - it unlocks an Android Flappy Bird mini-game - LOL

I can confirm that on AT&T variant you can toggle the Auto-Factory Reset.
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I can confirm that on AT&T variant you can toggle the Auto-Factory Reset.
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crap. so looks like with AT&T you can disable but Verizon maybe not? Anyone else with Verizon have it ungreyed?

markS7 said:
I took the jump to Android from Windows Phone and I really liked the S7 Edge form factor and looks however it is just too buggy and has hardware problems so I think I might have to try an iPhone (scary). Here are my list of problems with the S7 Edge:
SD card problems - known issue HW rev problems - nag screen as well as lost apps installed on the SD card
Random reboots - many a day
Thumbprint recognition - seems like it takes me 3-4 thumbprints every time - why?
English Language Pack storage bug - eats all my space - it keeps coming back even if disabled - 2nd time ran out of space on the phone - 16-18GB footprint for this - why? what does this app do?
WIPES MY PHONES - this has happened TWICE - this is the deal breaker - I even turned on 'avoid turning on while in pocket' - doesn't matter when i go for hikes or ski in the cold maybe - it WIPES MY ENTIRE PHONE - not good
bugs with texting and message+ - seem like the phone freezes when texting - can't finish typing - message+ crashes - this is major pain
Lots of apps crashing randomly - not sure why
I really want to make this phone work but the WIPING of the DEVICE twice for me means full day of lost productivity for my traveling job. I can't be rebuilding my phone every few weeks. Is this acceptable for Samsung's flagship phone? I am open and patient to technology and not biased one way or the other (I do miss some features on my Windows Phone).
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just send in for a repair and you will be good to go

i suggest you are trolling
you are talking about S7e right ?!

Sounds like a very defected device.
Your really the first i heard tht has had these problems.
My fingerprint works great.
This is problem the only phone i have had tht doesnt turn on in my pocket.
Also dont know why your phone i wiping itself.
Never had that happen with any phone.
There is an option for wiping the phone if the lock screen password is wrong 5 times in a roll.
I onlynuse the default messging app but never had a problem with slow typing.
16gb for language is very off.
The whole system setup is only around 9gb.
So if you think andriod is crap then move on.
If you wanna try ios then do so.
But i can say that it sounds like your phone is broken

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i suggest you are trolling
you are talking about S7e right ?!
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Man, people get so sensitive about their platforms. Yes, I am talking about the new Samsung S7 Edge on Verizon yes. How am I trolling exactly? These are honest problems I am having - is it not possible to have problems with a new device? I guess folks figure if I point out problems than I am trolling. Not sure how I have to prove this are legit.
On a positive note, I think I did find some root causes on my own recently like the 'Auto-factory reset' setting which is why my device is wiping itself however I can't disable it on Verizon for some reason.
Not sure about the other problems - running out of space, etc. so I am welcome to feedback.

markS7 said:
Man, people get so sensitive about their platforms. Yes, I am talking about the new Samsung S7 Edge on Verizon yes. How am I trolling exactly? These are honest problems I am having - is it not possible to have problems with a new device? I guess folks figure if I point out problems than I am trolling. Not sure how I have to prove this are legit.
On a positive note, I think I did find some root causes on my own recently like the 'Auto-factory reset' setting which is why my device is wiping itself however I can't disable it on Verizon for some reason.
Not sure about the other problems - running out of space, etc. so I am welcome to feedback.
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the numbers of problems u mentioned never faced alltogether in a single android phone for years.. not to mention the that the S7e is one the greatest phones i ever had except for rebooting which was fixed with software update.
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finger print scanner use different angles for ur finger and keep the home button clean.
u can use 2 fingerprints options for a single finger

markS7 said:
Man, people get so sensitive about their platforms. Yes, I am talking about the new Samsung S7 Edge on Verizon yes. How am I trolling exactly? These are honest problems I am having - is it not possible to have problems with a new device? I guess folks figure if I point out problems than I am trolling. Not sure how I have to prove this are legit.
On a positive note, I think I did find some root causes on my own recently like the 'Auto-factory reset' setting which is why my device is wiping itself however I can't disable it on Verizon for some reason.
Not sure about the other problems - running out of space, etc. so I am welcome to feedback.
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I would be tempted to say this is a combination of OS confusion and faulty unit. Some of what you say has been experienced by others in the S7 Edge forums and some of what you said sounds a little like "it didn't do this on my Windows device". I'm not bashing you at all, I'm just saying that it may be something you come to understand with time.
I remember moving from Apple to Android many years back (I moved to the first original Galaxy S device). I felt like I'd made the biggest mistake of my life! I just didn't "get" it. Things that where simple on the iPhone suddenly had 2 or 3 different ways to complete the task on Android.
I would suggest firstly discussing the issues with Samsung or your provider and see if they are actual issues, or user confusion, then once confirmed, I guess you have a decision... stick with it and see how deep the rabbit hole goes, or return the device and decide Android isn't for you.

ashouhdy said:
the numbers of problems u mentioned never faced alltogether in a single android phone for years.. not to mention the that the S7e is one the greatest phones i ever had except for rebooting which was fixed with software update.
Answers:
reset your phone , and keep up with us step by step
finger print scanner use different angles for ur finger and keep the home button clean.
u can use 2 fingerprints options for a single finger
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okay thanks for the fingerprint tips Ashoudy. I think I will send it back to Samsung and hopefully they send me a new device. Don't get me wrong - I really like the S7 and think it is well ahead of iPhone innovation wise. I got it pre-launch so maybe I just got a bad early device.
Some of these problems may not be hw related in my opinion: Factory resets, storage space problem but hopefully a newer device will fix these.

LOL at people in here saying "well mine's working fine", alright, and your point is what exactly?
It's pretty obvious that OP here has a lemon, and it should be returned. This isn't anything new though, and every manufacturer on the planet will have some of these in circulation for the first month or two. That's the price we pay for being early adopters. If you don't want to get a device with any surprises next time, I recommend you to wait for like 3 months before buying a device. Apple also had some issues with the iPhone 6 and 6S, like expected. Same with Sony, LG, HTC and Samsung. It's always a pain in the butt when it happens to you, but it's pretty much a gamble when you get a brand new device this early.
I have personally zero issues with my gold Edge (built on March 15), so this just shows how bad it can get for unlucky people like OP.

Loving this phone after flashing MM

I've been running MM for months now, currently running OctOS MM and it has been running almost flawlessly. The only issues are well documented, the video playback in Chrome and the flashlight turning off. Those things are minor in comparison to the improvements the ROM has made to the phone. It is the fastest it's ever been, nothing compared to the newer phones but snappy and very usable in everyday situations. Which to me is defined as being BT to the car while navigating and playing music. The battery life is amazing, like back to the ICS days. With Greenify's aggressive doze, there is hardly any battery drain with the screen off. I was very near to getting the Nexus 6P but now I'll definitely use this phone as my daily for another year and see what the iPhone 8 brings. I've also been running the phone naked and it just feels right. Perfect proportions! Gave my iPhone 6s to my wife a few months ago because that phone is boring to a fault. Everything just works perfectly which means no fun. Funny that I enjoy Android because it is such a POS. Lol
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So, tell me my friend...do I have a chance with non-dev SU6-7.3 to get this? Few days I was on first 4.4.4. update and didn't do the next updates and I mistouched the buttons and accidentaly updated my phone...so I did all of them. I'm really jealous of you. Always wanted the best for my MAXX. Is there any chance at least for root?

Sorry, I'm not too familiar with rooting locked phones. I'm always just one drop away from losing my unlocked bootloader. Dropped my first MAXX, which was unlocked from ICS. Send it in to Motorola before Lenovo took over and they replaced it no questions asked. The phone came with 4.4.4 and I lost my unlocked bootloader, but just before I was going to upgrade to 6-7, the bootloader unlock method came out for 4-23 and so I've been unlocked since. The MAXX is very fragile, even when everything looks fine, a good drop will damage the internals, with the rear camera going bad as the first sign. I'm running the phone naked nowadays because I'm extra careful and it feels so light and good to the hands but if I do break it, it'll be an excuse to get a Nexus 6P. I think the MAXX runs 4.4.4 great and you're not losing out on too much. 4.4.2 was the best IMO looking back. Hope you find a way to root but if not, it's still a damn good phone. I still have a backup MotoX on 4.4.4 even though it is also bootloader unlocked. If Motorola know what's good for them, they would offer unlock codes for our phones they screwed us over with LP. LP was complete junk, but it's the principle.. lol. Regardless, I'm done with Motorola as long as they are under Lenovo.
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Can you tell us where you got this ROM from? I looked on OctOS' site and didn't find DROID MAXX on their supported list.
And/or post a link to full backup of your SYSTEM partition? [I am not sure if there's phone-specific information on that partition, I believe not though since those partitions are reflashed from official and downloaded ROMs all the time.] The reason for this is because I am not sure why we can't take a BL-unlocked phone, upgrade it to LP or MM using CM or another ROM, pull it's SYSTEM partition, and flash that using the @CrashXXL method to a BL-locked phone.
I imagine there is a partition signature verification happening somewhere, but somehow the @CrashXXL method is not tripping that up with the QHS_DLOAD mode method. And I'm willing to try this backdoor method to put an LP/MM SYSTEM on the phone, because I think worst-case I could go back to SU6-7 which is where I am today. Would be in mid-June though.

I'll send a request to them to see if I can share the link to the ROM. I was running their ROM on my MotoX, made a TWRP backup and flashed it onto my MAXX. Used the 5.1 patch to activate the capacitive buttons and all was good. Shared my results with the OctOS folks and they told me, yeah, try this MAXX version they had and been running it since. It is not in the main OctOS website and I don't want to share it without asking them first, standby.
The OctOS ROM also includes KernelAdiutor and I just started playing with the Low Memory Killer and think I stumbled onto something. Right now in Aggressive setting and it is multitasking like a champ, where before it would still stumble and stutter, it is smooth as butter. I have it BT'd to my Bose Mini, playing YouTube Music, Waze, posted on Facebook and now typing this post on Tapatalk and smooth as butter. The phone has never run this smooth at anytime before and running that many app would have likely killed the phone by now. Amazing. So it may be a memory management issue more so than the fact that the MAXX only has a dual core processor. Something to look into. I'm not holding my breath, the real test will be when I drive to work, as the car's BT seems to tax the phone heavily.
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Johnny Wong said:
I'll send a request to them to see if I can share the link to the ROM. I was running their ROM on my MotoX, made a TWRP backup and flashed it onto my MAXX. Used the 5.1 patch to activate the capacitive buttons and all was good. Shared my results with the OctOS folks and they told me, yeah, try this MAXX version they had and been running it since. It is not in the main OctOS website and I don't want to share it without asking them first, standby.
The OctOS ROM also includes KernelAdiutor and I just started playing with the Low Memory Killer and think I stumbled onto something. Right now in Aggressive setting and it is multitasking like a champ, where before it would still stumble and stutter, it is smooth as butter. I have it BT'd to my Bose Mini, playing YouTube Music, Waze, posted on Facebook and now typing this post on Tapatalk and smooth as butter. The phone has never run this smooth at anytime before and running that many app would have likely killed the phone by now. Amazing. So it may be a memory management issue more so than the fact that the MAXX only has a dual core processor. Something to look into. I'm not holding my breath, the real test will be when I drive to work, as the car's BT seems to tax the phone heavily.
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Sounds good, I appreciate it and please keep me posted.

lloat said:
Sounds good, I appreciate it and please keep me posted.
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Here's the link to the ROM. It is not supported, so use at your own risk. With that being said, I've been using the ROM for months. Just discovered a bug where if you try to make a call while BT'd to the car, it will crash. Never noticed it until over the weekend because I've been receiving calls just fine. Might just be a permission issue. Haven't looked into it yet.
https://basketbuild.com/devs/Team_Octos/private/moto
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Said I was never going to buy anything Motorola post Lenovo but couldn't help myself.
Have it synced to both my MotoX and my MAXX by fooling the watch into thinking it is the same phone. Did that by flashing a MotoX TWRP backup to the MAXX. I need to fix the Tapatalk sig to read sent from my MAXX...
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Johnny Wong said:
Here's the link to the ROM. It is not supported, so use at your own risk. With that being said, I've been using the ROM for months. Just discovered a bug where if you try to make a call while BT'd to the car, it will crash. Never noticed it until over the weekend because I've been receiving calls just fine. Might just be a permission issue. Haven't looked into it yet.
https://basketbuild.com/devs/Team_Octos/private/moto
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Thanks for the tip! This rom really seems excellent. However, there is usually no in-call sound either way when I'm receiving a call! When I initate the call, it's all OK. Out of 3 different callers, I only had one that had a voice connection.
Anyone experiencing the same?
UPDATE: a zip for Moto X from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/aosp-audio-fix-ghost-t3380744 seems to have solved the issue. Needs testing though.

I had to go back to LP after discovering that BT is not working correctly when synced to my cars. As soon as I try to make a call, the phone freezes and then reboots. Other than that, the ROM was perfect. Hopefully they will resolve the issue in a future build but for now, I flashed back to OctOS's final build of LP 5.1.1 for the MotoX. This is only the first day back with LP and I already ran into the cell standby battery drain (don't know if it is actually a drain or if it is just reporting wrong) and I'm missing some of the MM features such as the integrated search function. Oh well, that itch to get a Nexus 6p is coming back again and the price is pretty competitive too. So tempting....

I ended up going back to 5.1.1 (DU's 9.8).
The long-standing marshmallow bug of statusbar scrolldown speed (when triggered by an external event, not direct pulldown) is not fixed and really annoying.
Sound was reproducibly fixed by the AOSP patch though.

Yeah, it's too bad no one has cracked the code on some of those MM bugs. If someone can port Now on Tap to LP I would be set. That and Doze. Pretty happy right now with 5.1.1, looks like it has been polished up quite a bit since the last time I ran it. Might have to give DU a try to see if it has the same cell standby battery bug. OctOS never closed out Obake with a final LP build so I'm forced to run the MotoX version. Not bad minus the fact that my capacitive buttons are at full brightness with the MotoX LP 5.1 patch.
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Tried DU LP with high expectations but couldn't get it to work at all. From first boot up, it was already experiencing random restarts. Probably did something wrong, but I did a full wipe minus internal memory before install. Anyway, restored to OctOS M6 LP, and have been running it for a week. The ROM started to slow down, with random choppiness and was hit with the radio standby bug even with the MobileRadioActiveFix xposed module installed. Was not a happy camper to the point I ordered a One plus 3 but then soon realized it won't work on Verizon (epic fail), don't know how I overlooked that. Anyway, have to return that phone when it arrives but that's a whole different story. Back to the MAXX, went to the MotoX forums and read up on Tycoo's kernel for CM12 and decided to give it a shot. Now it's only been a day but so far, it is running flawlessly. Better than even when I was on MM. Overclocked to 1890mhz, intelliactive, intelliplug, Zen I/o, and other recommended settings such as Zram at 320mb equals a snappy new phone! Don't really care about battery life but the MotoX guys claim 5hr SOT with those settings which means the MAXX would easily do that and more. Will report back, definitely recommend!! Also, I highly recommend the snapdragon camera, it is by far the fastest camera available for our phone.
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