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Android system has been using a lot of battery since I turned off wifi. Is this normal?
I337 mf3 running GE 4.2.2 rom with safestrap
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deadenz said:
Android system has been using a lot of battery since I turned off wifi. Is this normal?
I337 mf3 running GE 4.2.2 rom with safestrap
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Google “android system battery drain" it comes up with a lot of things. Download BetterBatteryStats click on other than click on partial wakelocks. Its some of your wakelocks that's causing the android system to drain the battery. With BetterBatteryStats it tells you which of those wakelocks is causing it and you can disable them.
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[email protected] said:
Google “android system battery drain" it comes up with a lot of things. Download BetterBatteryStats click on other than click on partial wakelocks. Its some of your wakelocks that's causing the android system to drain the battery. With BetterBatteryStats it tells you which of those wakelocks is causing it and you can disable them.
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finding alot of "answers" but none of which I think are the problem. I've attached a couple screenshots to show what is causing the wakelocks, not real sure what they are tho. this battery drain only happens when I leave wifi off, if wifi is on everything is perfect.
How strong is your phone's signal? If it does a lot of searching it'll use a lot of battery. With Wi-Fi off your apps will still try to connect to the internet. Face book I'd your biggest wake lock. Do you really need that to be trying to sync?
jd1639 said:
How strong is your phone's signal? If it does a lot of searching it'll use a lot of battery. With Wi-Fi off your apps will still try to connect to the internet. Face book I'd your biggest wake lock. Do you really need that to be trying to sync?
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my signal is almost always full bars with lte. I wouldn't think that one app would cause such a battery drain, even facebook. but no it's not that important, I can turn that off to see if it makes a difference. what about "AlarmManager" & "ActivityManager-Launch"?
edit: what I don't understand is this.. even with facebook on, whether it's syncing with wifi or my data connection it's wakelocking, so why such a huge difference when wifi is disabled and it's using my data connection instead?
I don't think facebook is the problem, I installed the other ge rom (clean&slim) and am having the same issue when wifi is disabled, and I haven't installed any apps except for es file explorer and nova launcher. I don't remember a problem with this on stock touchwiz. I have safestrap and goldeneye running on my girlfriends phone and the android system using battery when wifi is disabled isn't a problem.
deadenz said:
my signal is almost always full bars with lte. I wouldn't think that one app would cause such a battery drain, even facebook. but no it's not that important, I can turn that off to see if it makes a difference. what about "AlarmManager" & "ActivityManager-Launch"?
edit: what I don't understand is this.. even with facebook on, whether it's syncing with wifi or my data connection it's wakelocking, so why such a huge difference when wifi is disabled and it's using my data connection instead?
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If you're in an LTE border area your connection may be connecting in and out with LTE bands frequently causing the battery drain, as wifi is usually more stable. Generally the cause of battery drain is due to google services wakelocking the phone. Do you have Greenify downloaded? It's pretty nifty for hibernating apps, causing them to be completely shutdown until opened; preventing wakelocks. If you get the donate version you can even hibernate system apps (google services, etc). I doubt it's ROM related, but you can try another ROM and compare with BetterBatteryStats.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Wakelocks
^ That will explain the AlarmManager & ActivityManager-Launch.
Br4nd3n said:
If you're in an LTE border area your connection may be connecting in and out with LTE bands frequently causing the battery drain, as wifi is usually more stable. Generally the cause of battery drain is due to google services wakelocking the phone. Do you have Greenify downloaded? It's pretty nifty for hibernating apps, causing them to be completely shutdown until opened; preventing wakelocks. If you get the donate version you can even hibernate system apps (google services, etc). I doubt it's ROM related, but you can try another ROM and compare with BetterBatteryStats.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Wakelocks
^ That will explain the AlarmManager & ActivityManager-Launch.
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thanks for the info. I've tried both google edition roms but like I said.. this wasn't an issue on stock touchwiz and it's not an issue on my girlfriends phone running safestrap and goldeneye (we have the same phone). I do have greenify and I've added play music and maps to it as I noticed they would always run in the background. I also noticed in running apps under google services (with wifi disabled) something was running called locationmanager or similar to that. I had all location services turned off tho. I always have full lte service so I'm not sure why it would be going in and out.
Check your kernel wakelocks, your partial wakelocks seems not a big deal, actually on that screenshot IMO facebook is behaving very well.
CyberManiaK said:
Check your kernel wakelocks, your partial wakelocks seems not a big deal, actually on that screenshot IMO facebook is behaving very well.
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I just unplugged my phone so I'm waiting for updated battery stats. I'm almost positive it has nothing to do with any apps that I've installed. I have greenified alot of apps, and turned off some receivers in google services framework (mostly gtalk stuff) I also did the stuff in this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357417. I'm going to wait awhile to see if there's any improvement, then I was going to try adding some build.prop entries that I used on my LG Optimus L9, a couple are for saving power when the phone is asleep and helping the phone sleep better, and there is an entry to limit how often your wifi will scan. they seemed to help on the lg.
I live in a poor service area and I like to control my WiFi and data on off with juice defender or creative connections I think its called. Helps me a lot. May not solve your prob but might make things easier on you. There is also an app called LTE toggle that makes a on/off widget for LTE. Hope it helps if you try it.
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I live in a poor service area and I like to control my WiFi and data on off with juice defender or creative connections I think its called. Helps me a lot. May not solve your prob but might make things easier on you. There is also an app called LTE toggle that makes a on/off widget for LTE. Hope it helps if you try it.
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so is this an issue other people have using google edition roms and having wifi disabled? this doesn't happen with stock touchwiz or even stock touchwiz roms so I'm not understanding what the problem could be. I shouldn't have to use another app to stop battery drain just because I don't have wifi enabled
deadenz said:
so is this an issue other people have using google edition roms and having wifi disabled? this doesn't happen with stock touchwiz or even stock touchwiz roms so I'm not understanding what the problem could be. I shouldn't have to use another app to stop battery drain just because I don't have wifi enabled
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I can't think of anything you haven't already thought of that could cause those issues. I love greenify also but is it possible you greenified an app that is fighting it and trying to connect? I've done that but not es bad as you are seeing. Those apps were a thought to make your life a little easier by not working about WiFi on here and off there. They work good for me for that issue. You probably won't like this but I'm running foxhound 2.0 with faux and killjoy/ccross breeder script and I have a hard time hitting 50% battery after 15 hours off the charger. I have to really game or to a lot to go below that. I also debloat heavily. I havent tried your Roms yet but I had similar results on Alpha ROM. I'll think about it some more though.
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I can't think of anything you haven't already thought of that could cause those issues. I love greenify also but is it possible you greenified an app that is fighting it and trying to connect? I've done that but not es bad as you are seeing. Those apps were a thought to make your life a little easier by not working about WiFi on here and off there. They work good for me for that issue. You probably won't like this but I'm running foxhound 2.0 with faux and killjoy/ccross breeder script and I have a hard time hitting 50% battery after 15 hours off the charger. I have to really game or to a lot to go below that. I also debloat heavily. I havent tried your Roms yet but I had similar results on Alpha ROM. I'll think about it some more though.
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I tried foxhound and I liked it but the black theme was just too black for me and I don't really like the touchwiz theme. I love the google edition roms. and no at first I flashed a clean ge rom and didn't install any apps at all and I still had the problem. I've also installed ge roms from the i9505 forum and also had the problem. with wifi on I get atleast 2 days on a full charge and about 4 hours of screen on time.
I would suggest do the following charge up to 100% not 90% like your second post. after 100% charge, do a reboot when the phone boots again remove the charger and let it sit untouched for at least 4 hours preferably 8 hours. Then on better battery stats take a screenshot of "Other/unplugged" lets see how much the phone is awake and deep sleep, then take a screenshot of Kernel Wakelocks/unplugged and also partial wakelocks/unplugged
at first I didn't notice that on you second screenshot your stats are for 8% period 90% - 82% and that is a 1%/hr battery drain, is actually pretty good, sure not excellent but there are some that loose 2%/hr
I'm having the same problem with the ge ROM. Battery life seems to go quicker than stock touchwiz. As I like the GE roms interface and things you can do with it just hate the battery life.
4.2.2 Google Play Edition GS4 safestrap.
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I'm having the same problem with the ge ROM. Battery life seems to go quicker than stock touchwiz. As I like the GE roms interface and things you can do with it just hate the battery life.
4.2.2 Google Play Edition GS4 safestrap.
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How much time are you getting of deep sleep and how much awake in a 8 hr period ?
Do you have exchange mail enabled? Sometimes I have the same problem with my battery life and that is the issue
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[email protected] said:
I'm having the same problem with the ge ROM. Battery life seems to go quicker than stock touchwiz. As I like the GE roms interface and things you can do with it just hate the battery life.
4.2.2 Google Play Edition GS4 safestrap.
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are you having the problem with wifi enabled and disabled? I only have the problem when my wifi is turned off, with wifi on I get great battery life with this rom
here's what I added to my build.prop last night and it seems to have fixed the 'android system' battery drain. it's back down to 2% now with wifi off and lte enabled.
Disable Sending Usage Data
ro.config.nocheckin=1
Deeper Sleep / Better Battery Life
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=1
pm.sleep_mode=1
Wi-Fi to Scan Less Frequently
wifi.supplicantscan_interval=180
Is there a way I can officially know if I have a bad battery on my LGG2? When I had purchased the phone, I never really took interest in it because of it's battery life, but after hearing that it has a great battery life I thought mine was lacking. I hear people having it go for two days without a charge. Yet mine was being charged once a day or more at least. I had batterydoctor installed, and when I had it, it would say I got about 22 hours or so normally. Then 17 or so.
I took the phone to the AT&T service center to get a replacement as I felt as if the battery was bad. Yet after getting the new one, I feel as if I'm having the same problem or even worse.
I'm still getting below 20 hours, and the battery seems to die faster than expected. I do not do a lot on my phone as it is. I had previously only had BatteryDoctor control the CPU, but I purchased SetCPU to get a bit better control on my CPU. I read push notifications was more efficient than 15 minute intervals, so I set those on my email apps. I don't have a lot of widgets, or even more than two. My screen brightness is usually below half.
Am I just plagued with a bad battery, or am I doing somethings wrong here? Anymore I can do?
Along the lines of this, is there a list of what bloatware apps I can uninstall from the LGG2? I had uninstalled a lot, but I'm not really sure what is still safe or unsafe to uninstall.
The built in battery manager as of now expects my battery to last around 6-8 hours, while battery doctor says 15 hours.
You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
Vepaot said:
You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I am aware I can't uninstall anything my system needs, but I am not aware of what my system needs and does not need. I know of the obvious bloatware applications, so I uninstalled those. As for other things, I am not sure of. I would like to get rid of any unneeded apps that I will not use or have no use for as much as possible. And my device is rooted. And I do use Titanium Backup.
Sorry about that, I'm not good at explaining things most of the time. I'm not really sure as of what proof is needed. Though I have checked before. Google Services seems to come up often. Android System is the second I usually see as well. Screen usually comes into third or lower. I will disable the Location Services and see how things work out.
Thanks for the help so far. If there is any other info that is needed, I will try my best to provide such things.
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
Vepaot said:
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I will give it some thought on using either a modified or custom ROM. I have not yet tried that with any phone I have had before because I'm afraid that normal phone functions might not work. That and I did not have too much experience in messing with ROMs, but I have now done so on my tablets. Though I might still look for a list just in case.
I will look into these two apps to see how they might work and if they will be any benefit. I have heard of a couple other apps to try and extend the battery life as well.
I might look into Greenify as well. It sounds like it could have its use, but I'm not sure I would really use it as such. I did enjoy using Google Now, but I used it mostly for the weather. I can get any other random weather app and probably be just as fine. I don't think I ever used Location Services for anything else other than Google Now or Maps. Which if I need to use the GPS, I can turn it on once again.
Is using such apps like SetCPU a good idea? Or does that make things worse?
I tried searching Google for battery drain related to Play Services. Up until my phone had official KitKat, even with CM11, the battery drain from play services was never this horrendous (about 36% battery usage).
The only thing I could find besides version 4.4 was the "fix" for battery drain related to location was that some Sony devices, upon upgrading to KitKat, suffered similar problems with battery.
I've come to the conclusion the RAZR HD/MAXX HD suffer from the same issue.
Downloading BetterBatteryStats I found when GPS was the only way of doing location services, the battery drain is ~1% an hour. When I had high accuracy or battery savings mode, the drain was ~3.5% an hour. This is the EXACT issue that the Xperia devices are suffering from.
So, for all those on KitKat who are experiencing battery drain, try switching to Device Only. This will utilize only GPS satellites to determine location. You will lose location based stuff in Google Now, suck as traffic or weather but your battery will last much longer.
I looked through and didn't see anything about this in any other thread, so I decided to make a new one. Hopefully Google updates Play Services to be a bit more friendly with LTE and WiFi location settings soon (I'm looking at you, I/O).
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Another potential way around this is possibly using the Greenify app, if you're rooted. You'll also have to donate ($2.99 USD) but it's well worth it if you ask me. I actually used my Amazon Coins to donate that way.
With a donated version, you can hibernate system apps, but you have to be careful because hibernating certain system apps could cause other apps to no longer work (which is easy to fix - just unhibernate them). But, this is different from freezing apps. Freezing an app means you've disabled it. What Greenify does is prevent the phone from starting up apps when the screen is off (wake lock). But, you can launch the app yourself and it will fire up (albeit maybe a little slower since it wasn't pre-loaded) and then when the screen goes back off, Greenify will hibernate the apps again.
This is another way to stop apps from firing up when you're not using your phone. I've noticed Google Play services going nuts one time. A reboot cured it, but I wasn't sure what apps would have been using it. I've since Greenified some regular apps and I haven't seen it happen again.
But, Greenify is definitely something to look at. The non-donation version only allows you to greenify non-system apps, but even for those, it works really well.
You can get it at Google Play or at Amazon App store.
I haven't got issues with battery drain at the moment but I bookmarked this link of reddit and maybe it help you.
Sorry for the English
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1zxri4/google_play_services_battery_drain_the_real/
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I believe I read that thread, too. It is helpful to understand that Google Now is really what's killing the battery. I've noticed that the battery life is one again incredible on my phone after changing to device only. This allows me to still use navigation if necessary and also allows my weather extension in DashClock to work because the one I installed allows the phone to read GPS location instead of relying on my network location. So for now while I lose traffic updates and weather updates through the Google search app, it's not SO bad. I seriously hope they modify the number of times that Google pings for your location or figure out how to cause less drain on the battery, because I find the location stuff incredibly useful at times.
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Looking through the time line today saw this thread and remembered this app. Hopefully its helpfull
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
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and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
ADM!RAL said:
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
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and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
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Little more details about rom,kernel but wifi is destroying your battery,that is for sure. It's waking the phone thousands of time as you can see yourself
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Stevica Smederevac said:
Little more details about rom,kernel but wifi is destroying your battery,that is for sure. It's waking the phone thousands of time as you can see yourself
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yea i noticed that i read about something related to wifi driver issue idk
thx for reply tho and for my device it's stock D800y20 rom just rooted and even with stock recovery if it matter
This has started for me today also! Not sure what is causing it but I was fine prior to today. Maybe its a google Play services update?
keeepinitgansta said:
This has started for me today also! Not sure what is causing it but I was fine prior to today. Maybe its a google Play services update?
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idk but last google play service update was 10 days ago here !!
ADM!RAL said:
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
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and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
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Hello,
I have at 80% the same problem, I loose 7-10% of battery per hours, without SIM, wifi, bluetooth...
I already tried most of all roms, kernel, try all cpu governor.
If you want to see my topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/lg-g2-d802-battery-draining-5-0-2-t3256313/
If you are ready to dismantlle the phone, do it, and see if there is a problem inside. I hope you will resolve your problem and tell me if one day you gonna have a better battery
Dlazzy said:
Hello,
I have at 80% the same problem, I loose 7-10% of battery per hours, without SIM, wifi, bluetooth...
I already tried most of all roms, kernel, try all cpu governor.
If you want to see my topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/lg-g2-d802-battery-draining-5-0-2-t3256313/
If you are ready to dismantlle the phone, do it, and see if there is a problem inside. I hope you will resolve your problem and tell me if one day you gonna have a better battery
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yea almost identical problem
i did tot reinstall and see how things go !!
sadly nothing changed and wifi still eats huge amount of battery idk how did this happen
well i'll update thread if anything changed
peace out guys
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
stan54 said:
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
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How is dorimanx kernel bad? How many user downloads he has,lots and lots then are we thousands of user wrong using a bad kernel, come on . Maybe it didnt work for you. But out of those thousands of users cant be wrong. If it was that bad no one would download. Just saying , you should just say it didnt work for you.
stan54 said:
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
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Can you tell us what app have you uninstalled and disable ?
What have you debloat ?
Thank you very much
My G2 (vs980) has also been suffering from a sudden battery drain. Android OS and Android System seem to be the problem. They are now second and third on the list of battery usage, after the screen. Before now, they were never that high on the list. I noticed this last weekend, when I kdz to the latest update for the vs980, which is 3AA. After noticing this, I flashed the xceed kernel, then cloudy with dorimanx kernel, and the battery drain continued. I even kdz back to kitkat, still the same, then I flashed AICP 11, and still the same battery drain by Android OS and system. Finally, I restored a backup of stock lollipop 39A but, the issue continued so I turned on airplane mode and it seems to help a bit. I still notice battery life isn't the same as before. The os and system still drain more than usual even on airplane mode.
Kind of glad to hear I'm not the only one with this issue. I don't think I need a new battery, since I bought the phone new in April 2015 from Bestbuy.
Also Gsam, shows the temperature of phone between 80°-90°F, where before it would be in the low to mid 70s. One time, it even got up to 104°F, funny thing is, it doesn't even feel that hot in my hand.
Hopefully, we can find out what's causing this because I really liked the battery life on this phone. Even when people complained about the battery life being worse on 5.0.2, I was pretty happy with it. All my previous phones can't compare to the g2. Now I feel like upgrading though lol.
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raptorddd said:
How is dorimanx kernel bad? How many user downloads he has,lots and lots then are we thousands of user wrong using a bad kernel, come on . Maybe it didnt work for you. But out of those thousands of users cant be wrong. If it was that bad no one would download. Just saying , you should just say it didnt work for you.
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When I tried the version that was out a month or two ago it wasn't nearly as smooth as stock, even after conservatively messing with the kernel app settings. The worst was that it also cut out tethering and my flashlight when the screen shut off. Maybe the recent updates have fixed some of the issues, but I doubt it. Could be that he doesn't have access to the sprint variant which I have...
Either way, just because 'thousands' of people use it doesn't necessarily mean that it's good - 99.9% of those users have no idea how to code or how a kernel is written. Their knowledge goes as far as following picture guides online - which a 5 years old could do. Just look at the most recent change log - those 'fixes' were to glaringly huge problems that shouldn't have been made in the first place and people were blissfully using it the whole time. Think about how many thousands of other bugs their must be. Not to mention hacking up code made by professionals at huge companies could lead to many other problems. Obliviously the stock kernel has bugs as well, but it works and is fast and stable so I see no need for using a hacked together kernel made by one amateur that doesn't even have my version of the phone to test it on. I wanted it to be good - which Is why I went to the trouble of installing it, but it's definitely NOT.
Dlazzy said:
Can you tell us what app have you uninstalled and disable ?
What have you debloat ?
Thank you very much
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I uninstalled ALL of the stock apps that can be uninstalled. The ones I disabled are aosp keyboard, app updates, browser, calendar, cloud print, favorite contact widget, google play books, games, movies & tv, newstand, google+, lg voice command speech pack, music, music(the widget - it always runs in the background even without being on the homescreen), notebook, polaris viewer, quicktranslator, swype, talkback, voice command. I would have liked to disable a few more but I'm not rooted so I couldn't.
I use nearly all of the google products like chrome,gmail, calendar, docs, keep, music, photos, news and weather,translate,etc...so having the stock lg ones enabled was redundant. I also only have the bare minimum of installed apps that I need. Nearly all of them are made my major corporations i.e Chase, BofA, ebay, paypal, freedompop, microsoft, swiftkey etc. I have NO games or any small apps that need a ton of permissions. The only small apps are feedly, print hammermill, privacy flashlight(240kb, no ads, no permissions) and bubble level(180kb, no ads, no permissions).
I also go through every settings in every app to make sure it's what I want. And I restart my phone every time I take it off the charger. IMO having a clean and no frills system that is set correctly is the key to performance and battery life.
I just want want to clarify that I average 4-5hrs per 1% in standby since it doesn't seem to hold as well as it gets closer to 0%.
theres this app that have lots of info on battery..
thx guys for adding your experience
i hoped moded kernels would've reduced that amount as they should have necessary drivers for wifi which was somehow got messed up but from your reply i guess i've to look somewhere else
idk how to put this, well this isn't a solution at all i actually didn't start working on it yet just thought to share what i found so far !!
so it's just a reference for any one whose luck was bad enough to have a wakelock like that !
1st of all in most cases neither the device nor it's battery are at fault *you need to understand that*
faulty battery doesn't show up kernel related wakelocks instead they drain without a reason so i hope ppl stop accusing battery in every battery drain thread!
2nd after understanding that you'll have to deal with the environment your phone is used in
to put it simple it's your router and all devices in your current network !! (idk though why not all devices get affected by that or why it just started now, tough luck yea)
those threads may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31975007&postcount=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/getting-rid-wlanrxwake-wakelocks-t2519294
what i'll try to do is add an old access point to my router and connect my phone to it as i don't have a replacement router right now!!
i'll let you know if things were improved !
hey guys
i thought to share what i did so far and before i go on there is a bad news and a good news !!
i would start with the bad news first !
-no rom could solve this issue so you don't really need to format everything and start from scratch especially if you didn't mess around too much and you found it started suddenly like here, i've tried couple of roms including latest CM13 build it wasn't that bad but it didn't solve the drain that much either !!
-now some ppl may see this bad and some may don't care (which means good!!) google services are the ones responsible for this drain
well man you didn't come up with anything new and i see you've got a problem getting straight to the point besides you talk too much
i'm sorry
now you have to sacrifice your google services background sync including "GCM" if you are using any services similar to pushbullet or notification mirroring you'd understand why it's important
anyway if you are good with that you may install and yea it works with latest google play services
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playfulgeeks.gservicefix
and do as instructions (and believe it'll work if you did steps right)
if you prefer manual way then you'll need "app ops xposed module" and deactivate every "wake up" permission from google services
this guide may help but remember we don't have tools natively in our roms so don't bother downloading "shortcut maker" and go through your settings app to find "privacy guard" or "app ops" we don't have those natively like them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
i'll share some ss from stock battery stats
i'm sorry for my long post and i hope it'll help someone with same issue
idk if it solved issue completely but things are stabilized a lot now and i just lost 1% over night not 20% or 30% like before !!
and i'm using lollipop now so i guess it's not that bad for what i heard about bad lollipop battery since it's my first time trying it !!
and btw real SOT should be +40 mins so the real SOT is 2H-47M cuz i restarted my phone to apply that fix and for some reason battery stats doesn't stick between reboots !!
if anyone interested in trying that rom it's for D800 only btw and thx to @Swetnes for his work rom feels pretty stable and solid :good:
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-g2/development/rom-t3152368/
good luck everyone
So I broke my old Note 4 that I used at work. I'm now dusting off my daughter's old S7 Edge to use that, upgraded to latest firmware, used CCSW to disable all what I consider crapware, and now I have a question. Since this is running Oreo the battery and data optimization is not as complex as what we have recently (my "weekend" phone is a Note 10 running Android 11), so should I still use Greenify to control my running apps or is the battery optimization in Oreo is good enough without the need for an "extra" app running in the background to control that. I appreciate everyone's opinion!
Lol, that app and a 3rd party launcher were the prime suspects in 2 back to back boot loops on my N10+ Never again.
Not sure about Oreo but power management always causes issues in Pie including poor battery life.
I simply close app when done with them and Android does fine.
Any apps that don't behave under those terms I deal with on a case by case basis. Some are uninstalled or temporarily/permanently disabled.
Google Framework, Play Services and Playstore are habitual offenders.
Play with it and see what's using the battery, go from there. Maybe it will behave better than you expect.
blackhawk said:
Lol, that app and a 3rd party launcher were the prime suspects in 2 back to back boot loops on my N10+ Never again.
Not sure about Oreo but power management always causes issues in Pie including poor battery life.
I simply close app when done with them and Android does fine.
Any apps that don't behave under those terms I deal with on a case by case basis. Some are uninstalled or temporarily/permanently disabled.
Google Framework, Play Services and Playstore are habitual offenders.
Play with it and see what's using the battery, go from there. Maybe it will behave better than you expect.
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Thx for the reply. Yes, besides CCSW to disable apps that either I consider crapware or apps that I use rarely, I don't use Greenify or other "battery saving" apps on my Note10. I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases. If I close all my apps on "recents" and reboot my phone and let it sit there overnight I get only a 2-3% drop in my battery. That tells that battery is well managed.
Now for this old S7 on Oreo well I dont have many options in the apps settings besides the battery optimization switch. That's why I'm debating if I should use Greenify or not to have better control of apps that I really dont want running on the background but still want to receive notifications when they arrive.
mrrobc97 said:
Thx for the reply. Yes, besides CCSW to disable apps that either I consider crapware or apps that I use rarely, I don't use Greenify or other "battery saving" apps on my Note10. I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases. If I close all my apps on "recents" and reboot my phone and let it sit there overnight I get only a 2-3% drop in my battery. That tells that battery is well managed.
Now for this old S7 on Oreo well I dont have many options in the apps settings besides the battery optimization switch. That's why I'm debating if I should use Greenify or not to have better control of apps that I really dont want running on the background but still want to receive notifications when they arrive.
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I reboot my 10+ every few days or if it acts up... no reboot in 3-5 days can do that
At night I simply close all open apps although I do that throughout the day as well. I use Device Care to do clean ups every 2-3 days. Other than clearing the system cache that's about as much system maintenance as I do.
I also police the download folder daily and once a month scan with Malwarebytes. A very low maintenance, clean running system.
Greenify worried me as it wasn't seamless or fast and running at boot up means it had the capability to boot loop the device. If I never see another boot loop it won't be missed...
Maybe on an older OS you would see tangible power savings but it didn't do much for me on Pie.
In the end, tracking the power hogs down and dealing with them on a case by case basis did.
I run with Google play Services disabled 98% of the time now. It nets me about 2%@hr better battery life.
mrrobc97 said:
I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases.
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On my N10+ ruunong on Pie, all Device Care power management toggles are turn off except for fast charging.
The power mode is always set to "Optimize".