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[Q] [SOLVED, kinda] Weird battery drain for no apparent reason

Hello all,
I own an international N9005.
Up until recently, I used the stock Samsung ROM with good battery life.
A couple of weeks ago, with no apparent reason, I started getting horrid battery life - in access of 10% drop -per hour- in idle (as opposed to 1-3%).
I removed more-or-less everything, disabled more-or-less everything but nothing seems to work.
Got root (there goes the warranty) tried looking for Wake-locks and nothing. The Note3 is 97% (!!!) awake even with everything disabled, and in the wake looks screen both user and kernel I only see 1-2 minutes (!).
Tried resetting the ROM, tried installing other custom ROMs (X-Note, Omega, etc). Nothing seems to work.
Currently I'm running Omera v20, with *zero* applications installed (including all the Google and Samsung applications beyond Google Playstore) and all external services (location, WIFI, et-al) disabled, my note 3 is still 95-99% awake, and the list of wake lockers is, errr, empty.
FWIW I'm ~100m from the nearest cell tower.
EDIT: According to battery meter, Android OS is keeping the phone up.
Any ideas?
- Gilboa

gilboa said:
Hello all,
I own an international N9005.
Up until recently, I used the stock Samsung ROM with good battery life.
A couple of weeks ago, with no apparent reason, I started getting horrid battery life - in access of 10% drop -per hour- in idle (as opposed to 1-3%).
I removed more-or-less everything, disabled more-or-less everything but nothing seems to work.
Got root (there goes the warranty) tried looking for Wake-locks and nothing. The Note3 is 97% (!!!) awake even with everything disabled, and in the wake looks screen both user and kernel I only see 1-2 minutes (!).
Tried resetting the ROM, tried installing other custom ROMs (X-Note, Omega, etc). Nothing seems to work.
Currently I'm running Omera v20, with *zero* applications installed (including all the Google and Samsung applications beyond Google Playstore) and all external services (location, WIFI, et-al) disabled, my note 3 is still 95-99% awake, and the list of wake lockers is, errr, empty.
FWIW I'm ~100m from the nearest cell tower.
EDIT: According to battery meter, Android OS is keeping the phone up.
Any ideas?
- Gilboa
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Buy a new battery, maybe this will solve the problem...

gilboa said:
Hello all,
I own an international N9005.
Up until recently, I used the stock Samsung ROM with good battery life.
A couple of weeks ago, with no apparent reason, I started getting horrid battery life - in access of 10% drop -per hour- in idle (as opposed to 1-3%).
I removed more-or-less everything, disabled more-or-less everything but nothing seems to work.
Got root (there goes the warranty) tried looking for Wake-locks and nothing. The Note3 is 97% (!!!) awake even with everything disabled, and in the wake looks screen both user and kernel I only see 1-2 minutes (!).
Tried resetting the ROM, tried installing other custom ROMs (X-Note, Omega, etc). Nothing seems to work.
Currently I'm running Omera v20, with *zero* applications installed (including all the Google and Samsung applications beyond Google Playstore) and all external services (location, WIFI, et-al) disabled, my note 3 is still 95-99% awake, and the list of wake lockers is, errr, empty.
FWIW I'm ~100m from the nearest cell tower.
EDIT: According to battery meter, Android OS is keeping the phone up.
Any ideas?
- Gilboa
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Indexing your external SD maybe?
You could try the link in my sig and try again for your custom ROM.

First, thanks all for taking the time to answer.
I'm thinking about getting a new battery, but my gut feeling is that its not the source of amazing battery drain - ~20%/h while completely [!] idle (auto-sync/location/etc completely off).
I've attaching /d/wakeup_source in excel format sorted by count and total time - in-case someone has any idea what's completely broken.
As far as I can see, qpnp-vadc-ebd30a00, sec-battery-monitor, mmc0:0001:2 are the main culprits.
nicholaschum,
Before I attempt a complete wipe (as opposed to the normal wipe data / cache), how can I detect if someone is indexing my sdcard? (which may account for the mmc0:0001:2 in the wake lock dump).
- Gilboa

I know this is a long shot but try turning off developer options if you have it turned on(especially force gpu rendering). Somehow I found out that when I turned it on and the screen is idle. I get a battery drain. Not as big as yours. But not really sure because if I use the phone, the battery is actually pretty great(an hour of screen time is about 10% even more with internet apps like facebook youtube chrome etc.).
Clear cache. I know this is too common but it actually works for a lot of people.
Lastly, try airplane mode overnight and see if it doesn't drain. It might be your network that is causing the drain.

gilboa said:
First, thanks all for taking the time to answer.
I'm thinking about getting a new battery, but my gut feeling is that its not the source of amazing battery drain - ~20%/h while completely [!] idle (auto-sync/location/etc completely off).
I've attaching /d/wakeup_source in excel format sorted by count and total time - in-case someone has any idea what's completely broken.
As far as I can see, qpnp-vadc-ebd30a00, sec-battery-monitor, mmc0:0001:2 are the main culprits.
nicholaschum,
Before I attempt a complete wipe (as opposed to the normal wipe data / cache), how can I detect if someone is indexing my sdcard? (which may account for the mmc0:0001:2 in the wake lock dump).
- Gilboa
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Hi, basically just check your phone using BBS (BetterBatteryStats), and see which individual process is eating up your battery.

Graffiti Exploit said:
I know this is a long shot but try turning off developer options if you have it turned on(especially force gpu rendering). Somehow I found out that when I turned it on and the screen is idle. I get a battery drain. Not as big as yours. But not really sure because if I use the phone, the battery is actually pretty great(an hour of screen time is about 10% even more with internet apps like facebook youtube chrome etc.).
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I had the developer options off and on. Didn't seem to help.
Clear cache. I know this is too common but it actually works for a lot of people.
Lastly, try airplane mode overnight and see if it doesn't drain. It might be your network that is causing the drain.
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If the current state doesn't hold (see below), I'll give it a try. Good thinking
nicholaschum said:
Hi, basically just check your phone using BBS (BetterBatteryStats), and see which individual process is eating up your battery.
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Already installed - together with WakeLockDetector.
Short update, out of pure desperation I completely wiped the phone (including sdcard), tried installing stock ROM and, err, Odin failed. Managed to get CWM running again and installed the latest CM nightly.
...
As weird as it sounds, going from NF4 based ROMs (including stock) to CM nightly dropped to idle battery usage to ~2-6%/h, a huge drop from ~20%/h.
I'll update and mark resolved if this situation holds (crosses fingers).
- Gilboa

gilboa said:
I had the developer options off and on. Didn't seem to help.
If the current state doesn't hold (see below), I'll give it a try. Good thinking
Already installed - together with WakeLockDetector.
Short update, out of pure desperation I completely wiped the phone (including sdcard), tried installing stock ROM and, err, Odin failed. Managed to get CWM running again and installed the latest CM nightly.
...
As weird as it sounds, going from NF4 based ROMs (including stock) to CM nightly dropped to idle battery usage to ~2-6%/h, a huge drop from ~20%/h.
I'll update and mark resolved if this situation holds (crosses fingers).
- Gilboa
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I heard there were problems with NF4 battery. But I haven't been on TW since ND4. No matter what on Note 3 TW the battery sucks. AOSP is great. But actually S5 port has the best battery.

Solved, at least for now.
nicholaschum said:
I heard there were problems with NF4 battery. But I haven't been on TW since ND4. No matter what on Note 3 TW the battery sucks. AOSP is great. But actually S5 port has the best battery.
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I use Nova (and not TW)
Either way, latest nightly seems to solve the battery drain problem completely - using the same Nova and system configuration (widgets, active syncs, etc). Currently I'm at ~1.5-0.8%/h when idle with no issues going into deep sleep.
Seems that my specific model really dislikes NF4.
Thanks again for trying to help.

This thread has been quite helpful as I was suffering with a Battery Drain after the NF4 Upgrade.
Planning to go back to ND5, which was the last stable version.

JazonX said:
This thread has been quite helpful as I was suffering with a Battery Drain after the NF4 Upgrade.
Planning to go back to ND5, which was the last stable version.
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I was thinking about doing the same, but in the CM 11 runs circles around both NF4 (duh!) and my previous ROM (not sure which revision it was) - plus I can actually get 2 days of standby time, even with the old batteries, so I'll stick with CM 11 for now.
- Gilboa

gilboa said:
I was thinking about doing the same, but in the CM 11 runs circles around both NF4 (duh!) and my previous ROM (not sure which revision it was) - plus I can actually get 2 days of standby time, even with the old batteries, so I'll stick with CM 11 for now.
- Gilboa
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CM11 is not an option for me. No 4k Video Recording, Worse Camera than TW, S-Pen Functions Removed... Nope. Cant survive with CM11.

JazonX said:
CM11 is not an option for me. No 4k Video Recording, Worse Camera than TW, S-Pen Functions Removed... Nope. Cant survive with CM11.
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I can relate.
Good luck, and post if you find a solution (in-case I decide to switch back to Samsung based).

[HOW-TO][NEWBIE GUIDE] Optimize & proper set up your Galaxy S6 Edge (stock firmware)

[HOW-TO][NEWBIE GUIDE] Optimize & proper set up your Galaxy S6 Edge (stock firmware)
As I've read across this forum and on several specific threads related to usage, battery life and so on, as well as discussing with some of my friends having a S6 or S6 Edge, I realized that most of the people don't really know how to properly set up their phones or how to use them efficiently.
OK, I get it, this is a fancy phone, not every owner is a developer or tech guy so it might be that many choose it based on the looks and don't really know how to optimize it...then they start complaining about different things like lag or battery drain not knowing that most of the problems are caused by miss-usage or improper setup. Of course there are bugs too, nothing is perfect. Of course there are many firmwares available and some are market or carrier dependent so some features or settings might be missing from some of them or even work differently.
What I will try here is to provide some guidelines and tips for setting up various things on the phone in order to maximize it's battery life and for a better usage. I will also make some recommendations based on my experience, tests and usage that might not apply to everyone. Use common sense and logic to apply similar settings in your particular case. Don't come screaming that you made that or that and now something is not working.
And YES, I know there are similar guides like this posted over the Internet and I'll probably make similar recommendations here too but I couldn't find such a guide here on XDA that is particular to this phone (if there is a better one than you might as well ignore mine).
All these things I'll describe below are applicable to any STOCK, NON-ROOTED 5.1.1 firmware and won't break warranty or your phone.
Now that was a long (and maybe unneeded introduction) but I thought to write this for everyone...let's start.
Model No.: SM-G925F
Android: 5.1.1 r2 (LMY47X)
Baseband: G925FXXU2QOI7
Kernel: 3.10.61-5672012
Build date: Fri Sept 4 2015
Carrier: Orange RO
DISPLAY
First I would like to say some words about the display. We have a great display, high resolution and it is most likely the biggest battery drain factor. There are two major things about it that you should keep in mind and will help you to get a better battery:
1. It's AMOLED...that means that the black pixels on it will consume no power because are not lit. Studies showed that even if not completely black, AMOLED displays use less energy if the displayed picture is darker compared to a lighter one.
2. The brightness level. Most people use it on "auto" or high level settings and this will be a major drain factor.
You can drastically lower the battery drain caused by your screen by selecting as much as possible dark (black) backgrounds and/or themes. There are some nice ones available in the Theme Store (my favorite is the Dalkomm Coffee Theme), that make most screens and menus dark/black. Also choosing a dark wallpaper for lockscreen/homescreens will help.
Don't use screen brightness at maximum...never. You don't need that in 99% of the cases. Also you won't probably need the automatic setting either since most of the people are spending most of the time indoors (either at work or home). A low manual setting will be fine most of the time, I have it set up at about 20% and only need a brighter one when going out. At that time I just tap on "auto" and it'll increase based on ambient light level. So you don't even need to tweak it alot every time. Find a low manual setting that's fine for your eyes and just tap on "auto" when you go out in sunlight.
CONNECTIVITY
Another battery drain factor is your multiple connection/radios features. In most cases you use just several: Mobile Data, WiFi, GPS/location and BT (when applicable). That means you should turn off all the others you don't use...NFC or BT (when not connected to a headset or car-kit or not listening to music). I don't listen to music and don't have a BT headset so I mostly not using BT (just when I'm in my car) and almost never use NFC so I have both disabled and I enable them only when needed via the Quick Settings.
WiFi
WiFi should also be properly setup otherwise it'll have impact on battery. It was incorrectly assumed or considered that keeping WiFi on all the time will drain battery faster. That was proven in different tests that's not true and in fact keeping WiFi on all the time won't make a big difference and in some cases was even better than to turn it off/on. I think is something similar with the car engines that suck more fuel when started that when running at idle. The major power drain is not when WiFi is running while is not connected to any network, but when the WiFi radio is powered up. When is on and not connected, it's going into a lower power state so the battery consumption is negligible.
I had a case with one of my friends that had WiFi setup to turn off when display was off...wrong choice, he got about 30% battery drain overnight because instead of having it connected to his home WiFi, the phone was using his 4G/LTE connection to make all the background sync/updates. That was eating his battery and also his data plan. After setting WiFi to "always" his overnight drain lowered to as little as 2-3%.
In some regions/carriers there are 2 other settings that were proven to help battery life: WiFi calling and VoLTE. I don't have either of them but based on different articles and what people say, they surely help with that so don't forget to turn them off if you don't use these features.
You might also want to try turning off "Always allows scanning" and "Smart network switch". I have the second turned off but I keep on the first one. Basically the first option tell the Location service to use WiFi for locating the device even if WiFi is switched off (by the on/off switch) so that means the radio is active. Second option should make you switch faster from WiFi to mobile data in case the WiFi signal is not strong enough or fluctuating. In my country there are plenty of WiFi hot-spots and they have mostly good connections so I don't use this feature.
GPS
Well here the opinions are split but I am currently having it ON all the time and Location Service is set to "high accuracy". I personally haven't noticed such a major difference with or without it so I preferred to let it on as it is used by many apps or services. You can try to set Location to "wifi and cell only" but don't think that will bring you a major benefit.
RUNNING APPS/PROCESSES
Well this is an important one. I've initially started to turn off/disable/uninstall everything I don't need or use. This can be done mostly from the Settings - Applications - Application Manager or if you want to go further, you can install Package Disabler Pro from PlayStore, about which I'll detail later.
Now why we should do that? There are lots of apps, processes and background services running on our devices that take care about all the things we do on the device. The problem is that ALL are using resources: processor time, memory, space and so on. In the end these are translated for a user in LAG or battery drain. Of course we cannot kill everything and I learned long time ago that installing Task or memory managers on Android it's the worst thing you can do. Android it's smart enough to take care better about it's resources and processes (at least to a certain point) and keep killing a certain process won't give you more battery life but will eat more of it in the end,
What I wanted to say is you shouldn't start disabling, killing or blocking everything cause you might end up with an unstable or not properly working phone (case in which only a factory reset might help). First of all look at the ALL tab in Application Manager and try to identify what you don't need or use. For example I'm certainly not using some things like: music, books, news feeds, Samsung's keyboard (I use SwiftKey), the TouchWiz launcher (I use Nova), health services or whatever, S-Voice, S-Health, S-Finder, I don't have any smartwatches so I don't use any Gear processes, fancy device wake-up functions (like wave gestures) or animated wallpapers either.
So after all considerations above, you decided that you can safely disable some apps/processes. All good but you'll quickly learn that some of them cannot be disabled via Application Manager (the "disable" button is grayed out). Now what? Well here comes handy that Package Disabler Pro that I've told you about in the beginning. That app is able to disable ANY apps/processes on your phone, including those that are protected and cannot be disabled via the normal way (and yes it can do that without being rooted). The downside of it is that you must be careful what you choose to disable not to have something that is needed for the normal functionality or the apps you're currently using. The app has also a backup/restore function (via an xml file) for saving the list with apps you have disabled and easily import them back after a factory reset for ex. I've added to this thread my list of disabled apps as it is exported by the application (just unzip and copy the file on the root of your internal memory and it can then be imported in the Package Disabler app)
Another important thing is WHAT apps you're using. I know that socializing and social networking are some of today's most trendy things but keep in mind that some of the apps used for that are not so well made. An example could be the Facebook app/messenger which are reported to drain alot of battery. RSS feeds, news feeds, multiple weather apps or widgets, all contribute to battery drain and lag. Don't install several apps/widgets for the same purpose (like several calendar apps or weather apps). Each will take resources and won't have an added value. Want to use another weather app/widget than the one coming with the phone? Fine, install it...but don't forget to uninstall/disable the built in one or others that do the same thing. Same goes for keyboard for ex; I use SwiftKey for years and got used with it. For me it's better than any keyboard that Samsung might put on the device, therefore I've disabled the standard Samsung keyboard. I also don't like TouchWiz launcher and use Nova that offers me much more flexibility so...I've disabled both the "easy" and "regular" TouchWiz launchers. I went to the point that I've even disabled the different embedded font types, you have 5 of them and I doubt someone uses more than one at a time.
So as you all can see it's not only a matter of setup but also a matter of usage. When you have a device you have to use it properly otherwise it'll not perform as you expect. Imagine a car that has a manufacturer fuel consumption value of 5.5 liters/100 Km....that's under certain conditions not on ANY type of driving. Fly with 200+ km/hr on a highway and I'll guarantee you won't have 5.5 liters/100 km consumption. That doesn't mean the manufacturer has lied or mislead you. Same goes with a phone, if you don't know how to use it and optimize it, you'll have a bad experience.
I work in the IT industry for years and I mostly laugh when I hear someone advising somebody to reinstall the operating system to solve a problem. Same goes for "factory reset" for a phone. Yes, this method works some times but that won't solve the root cause of an issues if you're using it the same way. After several days it'll perform as bad as before and you'll just say that "factory reset" did nothing. Of course it didn't...YOU have to do something different, not the phone.
Now I apologize for the long post and I do hope that at least some will learn to better manage their devices and to understand what they're doing not just running certain commands or procedures blind. Both S6 and S6e are great devices but we should learn how to properly use them in order to benefit the most from them...otherwise we just come here asking for help or mumbling about what crap devices they are.

Thank you, I will check to see if I get an improvement on the standby battery drain.

Your part about not setting the screen to Auto is flawed. You mention that we are mostly indoors, and you don't need a brighter screen for that. Auto mode also knows that and sets the brightness lower. It already does automatically what you do manually.

Tnx. And yes....keeping screen at 20% brightness and just switching to auto when in outdoors works great for the battery life.

ArmedandDangerous said:
Your part about not setting the screen to Auto is flawed. You mention that we are mostly indoors, and you don't need a brighter screen for that. Auto mode also knows that and sets the brightness lower. It already does automatically what you do manually.
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Not quite, I've tested it. If you're on "auto" and use a lower setting on the slidebar, in a dark room the screen is too dark, you'll have to turn off "auto" and the manual brighteness set on the same level will be much higher than on auto.
Now if you have such good eyes and you're able to use "auto" in all cases with the slider at 20% that's good for you...unfortunately I am not so that's why I use it as I've described. The point is that "auto" mode consumes MORE battery regardless of how it's set, than a lower 'manual' mode. So I preffer to have it like this than to use auto all the time.

Thanks for the awesome guide. I'll start disabling some useless processes and see how my battery life is working. Anyway without much editing the battery of S6Edge is pretty good. I can use it a whole day and still 19% remaining. As a comparison I wasn't able to do it with my S3 having to recharge it 2 or even 3 times at day.
Again, thanks for the guide!
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Stock 5.0.2 Not entering deep sleep (With Screenshots)

Ok, so my g2 is simply not entering deep sleep so the battery is draining like crazy (I lose 20%-30% when just leaving it from fully charged overnight).
I want to know what is the likely cause of these wake-locks as I am reluctant to root- (still in the vain hope of an update from LG )
At first I checked the normal battery information and found that 'android os' was keeping the phone awake and was using 49% which can't be normal.
So I installed betterbattterystats and this confirmed that something was causing the phone to stay awake when the screen's off. (the deep sleep percentage is when I switched off WiFi altogether to test it).
Obviously I can't check the partial wake-locks section as I'm not rooted.
And also, if I do have to root - how easy is it? Is it as simply to use towelroot or something similar, and how easy is it to go back to stock (if lg get their act together and push an update).
Thanks

Hard to tell from current evidence, but i can tell you that you have no benefit from Greenify. I get 30hr standby + 3-4h sot + wifi on 24/7 + 1 year old battery on 5.0.2 no greenify
Facebook app used to increase my battery drain, maybe its that if you have it (messenger is ok)
Can you check your Auto-sync settings and GPS?

I used to get those battery stats, but its only recently that my problems have happened
It shouldn't be Facebook because that app doesn't even show up in battery usage- its just 'android os' that uses over 50% on a regular basis.
I don't have messenger any more, gps is always turned off and my synced accounts are
bbc news
facebook
google
outlook
reddit
skype
whatsapp

Hi, You can try Dorimanx's kernel, you can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60586770&postcount=1
I experienced better battery management and lowered "Android OS" usage with it.

root your phone
use this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...ols-how-to-install-twrp-bump-d80230a-t3072186
and check the wake-locks
and if you want to go back stock use this tuto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476

this may be a useless post, but i assume you already rebooted to try and clear the wakelock right? Does it happen on every boot?

lyesb1 said:
use this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...ols-how-to-install-twrp-bump-d80230a-t3072186
and check the wake-locks
and if you want to go back stock use this tuto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
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Thanks, I knew I'd might have to root at some point
migueldbr said:
this may be a useless post, but i assume you already rebooted to try and clear the wakelock right? Does it happen on every boot?
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Yep, I've tried that many times - and it does happen on every boot

Can any one tell me a way of rooting without installing a custom recovery?
I saw that this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...ols-how-to-install-twrp-bump-d80230a-t3072186 also installs a custom recovery.
As from what I understand, I would still be able to install OTAs while rooted but with the stock recovery

serious battery drain on Android 10

Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!

Not here...

Full charge at 9:00pm and by 6:00am I only see 3% drop, I don't call it a drain
(no root, latest Android Q update, location on, cell data on, bluetooth and NFC off)

Yes there is definitely higher drain on Android 10 overall.
Currently I am on AOSiP10 and getting 3-4% idle drain and about 2-3 SOT less than on AICP Pie. My friend on Stock 10 @ZeroInfinity has noticed a higher drain than Pie as well.
I'm in the process of figuring out what is causing the higher drain.

comp101inc said:
Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!
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No mine is about the same as with Pie (I haven't noticed any difference ... apart from once when I ran it right down I only got about 8hrs of sot (screen on time whereas on pie I'd get about 9 but it wasn't scientific not sure if I had the exact same settings).
Is an app showing high battery usage (Also use hamburger menu to show full system usage which incl standby)(might even be worth also looking at memory usage for each app under developer settings, if nothing stands out under battery for some reason). If very high usage suddenly maybe an app conflict with latest update. Or possibly even a crypto miner or some other malware. You can also check battery usage when booted into safe mode so no third party apps run.

only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10

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only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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Custom is always better than stock on this phone.
Wait for the AOSP ROMs to arrive and you will be able to easily get double that SOT time!

ronFenomeno said:
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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I did notice somewhat higher drain on A10, but not too much to worry about. My SOT on a single charge is usually about 5+ hours. Full stock, rooted. I am using WiFi Automatic to disable WiFi when the phone is inactive, so that might be helping, not sure how much...

On AOSiP10 there is no wild battery drain.
My device sleeps like a baby.
My advice? Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!

CamoGeko said:
Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!
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Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.

ronFenomeno said:
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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something must be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)

kt-Froggy said:
Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.
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What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
Also, my phone was ported from Sprint to T-Mobile and I've only recently got a better grip on changing tower conditions with this APN guide from T-Mobile. I had redundant APNs that may have been slowing connection to changing conditions while in motion or changing towers. Support wasn't much help anytime I called. Vacationing in a rural area with limited and slow data had me looking for a better solution. Even better than before coming back home and surfing internet in a passenger car on the freeway. Deleting the redundant ones was key, I believe.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090
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samep said:
What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
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Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...

kt-Froggy said:
Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...
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I haven't tried WiFi disabling in years (Juice Defender and profile apps) but I do limit apps' access to Internet with Adguard (unlocked licensed version).
I'll give the WiFi Automatic app a try and see how that goes. I have little use for WiFi outside of those saved networks that auto connect.
Thanks for the reply and suggestion.
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IronRoo said:
something muscat be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)
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mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted

ronFenomeno said:
mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted
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If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & then go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
PS. You can boot to the recovery and wipe the whole cache partition from there

IronRoo said:
If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & thin go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
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clearing data is the last method for me. if it is possible, i would not do it.
actually, the Google play services don't play to much, the battery just drain when the screen is on. however, i have tried to clear the cache of google play service before, it doesn't help.
there is an update today, just see whether it would improve it or not. would it be the issue of the battery indicator?

Miui battery management is sh*t

I really don't have any clue or solution on which Miui version I should flash to get decent battery life. No matter what version I use, (global, beta, miui 10/11) I always have high battery usage from one of these:
1. Cell standby (tried to switch network types, also through *#*#4636#"#* etc. without effect)
2. Whatsapp (this cr*p sometimes uses 60% of the battery, and I'm not even using it)
3. Android system (counts for most of the system processes and I get it but....)
I tried all kinds of battery optimizations, debloating through Adb etc.
Yesterday I flashed Havoc 2.9 and immediately my first cycle gave me 9:27 hrs of SOT on 4g, which I never managed to get before. I really like Miui, and I wanna use it, but have no idea what to do anymore.
Any suggestions of any kind?

mejgs said:
I really don't have any clue or solution on which Miui version I should flash to get decent battery life. No matter what version I use, (global, beta, miui 10/11) I always have high battery usage from one of these:
1. Cell standby (tried to switch network types, also through *#*#4636#"#* etc. without effect)
2. Whatsapp (this cr*p sometimes uses 60% of the battery, and I'm not even using it)
3. Android system (counts for most of the system processes and I get it but....)
I tried all kinds of battery optimizations, debloating through Adb etc.
Yesterday I flashed Havoc 2.9 and immediately my first cycle gave me 9:27 hrs of SOT on 4g, which I never managed to get before. I really like Miui, and I wanna use it, but have no idea what to do anymore.
Any suggestions of any kind?
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Latest BETA of MIUIMIX has great BB.
On MIUI always go Beta and Chinese vendor

mejgs said:
I really don't have any clue or solution on which Miui version I should flash to get decent battery life. No matter what version I use, (global, beta, miui 10/11) I always have high battery usage from one of these:
1. Cell standby (tried to switch network types, also through *#*#4636#"#* etc. without effect)
2. Whatsapp (this cr*p sometimes uses 60% of the battery, and I'm not even using it)
3. Android system (counts for most of the system processes and I get it but....)
I tried all kinds of battery optimizations, debloating through Adb etc.
Yesterday I flashed Havoc 2.9 and immediately my first cycle gave me 9:27 hrs of SOT on 4g, which I never managed to get before. I really like Miui, and I wanna use it, but have no idea what to do anymore.
Any suggestions of any kind?
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I would say MIUI battery optimization is highly customizable. You just need to figure it out.
Go to Settings / Battery & Performance / App battery saver and click on Whatsaup choose "Restrict background activity"
Also you can go to Security app and click Manage apps from there you can see all apps and their permissions there block or restrict services you don't want to be running in the background unless you are using the app at the moment.
Other setting was in MIUI 10 "Start in background" but I don't see it anymore in MIUI 11 I guess it is removed for better battery life. If you are using MIUI 10 go to Permissions / Other Permissions and click on any app you will see the list of options including that the app can be run in the background automatically.

hwandroid said:
I would say MIUI battery optimization is highly customizable. You just need to figure it out.
Go to Settings / Battery & Performance / App battery saver and click on Whatsaup choose "Restrict background activity"
Also you can go to Security app and click Manage apps from there you can see all apps and their permissions there block or restrict services you don't want to be running in the background unless you are using the app at the moment.
Other setting was in MIUI 10 "Start in background" but I don't see it anymore in MIUI 11 I guess it is removed for better battery life. If you are using MIUI 10 go to Permissions / Other Permissions and click on any app you will see the list of options including that the app can be run in the background automatically.
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I tried all of the above, but whatsapp always eventually comes on top, including "cell standby". This was also the case on the Xiaomi Mi6, but on Poco it was all ok, it had phenomenal sot all the time