Hi guys! I'm on stock rom Nougat, since i installed magisk i'll always get error when i tried to update my phone from Update setting (samsung things...).
But when i installed Xposed and especially a module known as Firefds which set fake system status to "Official" (it was "Custom"), when i go back to check for a new update i found this (attachement).
So what do you think guys? Should i update? Maybe its November security patch...
But i don't want to lose twrp, magisk and all the stuff !!
This update didn't includes November patch so far I know. This will be listed in the patch notes for sure.
If you install the OTA update...this will end not well I think. You will running in an unstable system because of root, twrp etc. This update will replace files which are eventually needed and so on.
I suggest you flash stock rom with odin, then install the update then re-root and re-flash twrp. Yes it is annoying, but its better to be safe than sorry
zzThrain said:
I suggest you flash stock rom with odin, then install the update then re-root and re-flash twrp. Yes it is annoying, but its better to be safe than sorry
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What about flash this update using FlashFire and keep twrp & magisk? I saw it in many other phones
Mrbinki said:
What about flash this update using FlashFire and keep twrp & magisk? I saw it in many other phones
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You can of course do so...but my experience is that such methods will not end well. Do it like @zzThrain wrote it and download firmware from SamMobile with DQJ3 and reflash twrp and re-root to be sure that your system don't come unstable.
Any chance for OTA updates with Magisk only (without Xposed, etc.)?
If there is no chance - is there a place to download only monthly security updates - since full firmware versions (found at sammobile) are at least 10x times larger than the monthly updates?
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I want to root my P8 GRA-UL10 the Chinese version, I currently am on marshmallow GRA-UL10C00B358, i want to stick with EMUI updates, but I also want root, will i loose the EMUI automatic updates if i root the device and install TWRP and Supersu?
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I want to root my P8 GRA-UL10 the Chinese version, I currently am on marshmallow GRA-UL10C00B358, i want to stick with EMUI updates, but I also want root, will i loose the EMUI automatic updates if i root the device and install TWRP and Supersu?
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In order to have root you will need to install Twrp to push Su which means removing the stock recovery needed to install updates(Another way is to boot into Twrp without removing stock recovery and flashing Su but there is no benefit in doing that, Twrp is nice to have). What will happen when you have Twrp installed is you will be notified of system updates but you won't be able to install them unless you restore the stock recovery back which is easy to do. Now you may ask if i restore the stock recovery and update will i lose Root?, yes you will and you will have to flash Su again with every update that's why there is no advantage in removing Twrp unless you want to update your system.
So in short you will have to root with every update whether there is stock recovery or Twrp.
Updates what updates never had one yet.
silverblack said:
Updates what updates never had one yet.
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If you are on Marshmallow then their isn't one yet. But if you are on Lollipop it will depend on what region and country you are in. Some regions get faster updates than others but you can install them manually if you can find a rom compatible with you phone.
jamesfranco said:
my phone is rooted and system updates were not installed
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Remove root from the SU app go to settings and choose complete uninstall. Then make sure you have the stock recovery installed not twrp if you have it on you should be able to update after that. I recommend you reset the device before applying updates.
Hi, I have a european S8+ fully rooted and with TWRP.
Everything's working great so far but I read somewhere that I won't receive further OTA updates.
Can I install them manually with TWRP?
If yes, 3 questions:
1. Where can I get them?
2. Do I need every single update or are the newest update always containing the older updates as well?
3. Do I lose root or TWRP after installing an update?
I've rooted with Magisk by the way.
Typically if you're rooted and modified the system partition (BusyBox or twrp or whatever) the update will not install in stock recovery. Usually you have to unroot reinstall stock recovery and flash ota. There's toolkits out that can do that. Or you can just find an awesome rom like a rooted debloated rom thats just recently updated and just flash that. Or you can what till somebody snags the ota update location then posts that.
I own the 6GB Ram version of the phone and wants to root it so as to use Titanium backup to restore all the contents of my previous phone.
But the Problem is that we are still going to get some big OTA updates regarding camera and maybe more bug fixes.
I know the general procedure for rooting the device i.e. first unlock the bootloader then install a custom recovery then root.
I just wanted to ask if I just install back the stock recovery after rooting the device then will I get the Ota updates?
And I am sorry if any similar question has already been asked, I searched but didn't find any. Thanks
nitish.4you said:
I just wanted to ask if I just install back the stock recovery after rooting the device then will I get the Ota updates?
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im using twrp and magisk for root. i still get OTA updates. but only the full updates, the 1,5 gb size
after that i need to flash twrp again and then install magisk again too.
but no data lost or anything so if you can live with that, its no biggy.
Hastaloego said:
im using twrp and magisk for root. i still get OTA updates. but only the full updates, the 1,5 gb size
after that i need to flash twrp again and then install magisk again too.
but no data lost or anything so if you can live with that, its no biggy.
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Can you throw some more light on this.I just want the latest updates. Download size etc doesn't matter.
Can you tell me the procedure what you do to retain rooted access and still get latest updates.? Thanks
nitish.4you said:
Can you throw some more light on this.I just want the latest updates. Download size etc doesn't matter.
Can you tell me the procedure what you do to retain rooted access and still get latest updates.? Thanks
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i assume you know how to get root ? unlock bootloader, flash twrp, install magisk or supersu ?
well from there its just the same.
getting ota updates see attachment.
after the update you are back to stock recovery without data lost.
so just flash twrp again and install root again, thats all.
nitish.4you said:
Can you throw some more light on this.I just want the latest updates. Download size etc doesn't matter.
Can you tell me the procedure what you do to retain rooted access and still get latest updates.? Thanks
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1. Unlock Bootloader and Flash TWRP
2. Flash and Download APK Magisk 13.3 (Root + Pass SafetyNet)
3. If there is a new update go to OnePlus 5 Downloads
4. Boot into TWRP and Flash the new update.
5. Everytime you flash a new update you must also flash Magisk Root.
6. Done
Should we flash twrp recovery and root zip right away after flashing full ota package??
PrakashGD said:
Should we flash twrp recovery and root zip right away after flashing full ota package??
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You don't have to flash twrp recovery again.
You can flash a root zip right after flashing the full OTA package
Hi all
I have ze520kl updated to oreo via ota update. Then I unlocked bootloader with official asus app.Now I want to know how to install Magisk without Twrp recovery. And what about future updates of fw? How to install it on my phone when I will have unlocked bootloader with official app, stock recovery and rooted with Magisk?
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Hi all
I have ze520kl updated to oreo via ota update. Then I unlocked bootloader with official asus app.Now I want to know how to install Magisk without Twrp recovery. And what about future updates of fw? How to install it on my phone when I will have unlocked bootloader with official app, stock recovery and rooted with Magisk?
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In order to root your device, you need to flash TWRP .
Future ASUS firmware will be posted on ASUS website & you need to install the new update via STOCK RECOVERY
ZenFone_3 said:
In order to root your device, you need to flash TWRP .
Future ASUS firmware will be posted on ASUS website & you need to install the new update via STOCK RECOVERY
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So when I flash Twrp recovery to root my phone when The update release i have to flash stock recovery to update? What about magisk manager option to patch boot.img and flash it with fastboot? Then I dont need twrp? Am I right?
ktl20 said:
So when I flash Twrp recovery to root my phone when The update release i have to flash stock recovery to update? What about magisk manager option to patch boot.img and flash it with fastboot? Then I dont need twrp? Am I right?
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You need stock bootloader to install OTA updates [RECOMMENDED]
(I found a thread to flash OTA's using TWRP by flashing no-verity but I am not sure that it will work on TWRP 3.2.1)
I am not really sure about the Magisk Manager (I'm still new to Magisk)
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So when I flash Twrp recovery to root my phone when The update release i have to flash stock recovery to update? What about magisk manager option to patch boot.img and flash it with fastboot? Then I dont need twrp? Am I right?
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When the new update released just flash it via twrp and reflash magisk, anything will okay. And the option patch boot.img it really not work since the oreo rom, you will get error while patching boot and installing module magisk.
Which unlock tool did you use?
The nougat one unlocked oreo too? Great!!!!
This weekend, I try Oreo stock with Magisk, and Titanium Backup can't restore apps+data. I thinking Magisk issue and I return to LOS14 because I need my phone with my data.
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Which unlock tool did you use?
The nougat one unlocked oreo too? Great!!!!
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I used tool for nougat from Asus website. So what is The best way for root this phone and make future updates?
I would like to finally know how it is with these updates. Unlocked the bootloader with the official application I would like to be able to upload updates. If I download TWRP and root my phone, I will be able to upload updates from Asus (the whole software file). Will the phone detect this file and update the system as it used to do? Will I have to upload it via TWRP? If by TWRP is how to do it step by step? dm-verity file needed? Is it possible to root my phone without uploading TWRP? Patching the boot.img oreo file with the Magisk manager does not work. Or give up magisk and upload supersu? Could anyone write instructions on how to proceed to root and upload system updates as they will be released by the manufacturer in the future? There are no step by step solution on this forum that can help me finally understand my problem and doubts
ktl20 said:
I used tool for nougat from Asus website. So what is The best way for root this phone and make future updates?
I would like to finally know how it is with these updates. Unlocked the bootloader with the official application I would like to be able to upload updates. If I download TWRP and root my phone, I will be able to upload updates from Asus (the whole software file). Will the phone detect this file and update the system as it used to do? Will I have to upload it via TWRP? If by TWRP is how to do it step by step? dm-verity file needed? Is it possible to root my phone without uploading TWRP? Patching the boot.img oreo file with the Magisk manager does not work. Or give up magisk and upload supersu? Could anyone write instructions on how to proceed to root and upload system updates as they will be released by the manufacturer in the future? There are no step by step solution on this forum that can help me finally understand my problem and doubts
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As you officially unlocked the BL, you will not get the ota notification in the future but you can download the full firmware zip from asus website and flash it normally ( you should be on the full stock recovery and boot to flash the ota or the firmware zip and remove magisk before flashing then re-flash it again after the update ). When you rooted your phone and don't have the stock recovery and boot images needed for flashing the updates, you can flash the RAW firmware and you will getback to full stock again without losing your data.
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As you officially unlocked the BL, you will not get the ota notification in the future but you can download the full firmware zip from asus website and flash it normally ( you should be on the full stock recovery and boot to flash the ota or the firmware zip and remove magisk before flashing then re-flash it again after the update ). When you rooted your phone and don't have the stock recovery and boot images needed for flashing the updates, you can flash the RAW firmware and you will getback to full stock again without losing your data.
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so one person says that I can install updates via twrp and then magisk or no-verity zip and the second one says that I must have stock fw in order to update .... so how exactly is that?
Can i flash updates from asus website for e.g UL-ASUS_Z017D_1-WW-15.0410.1801.40-user with TWRP then flash magisk? or no-verity? to boot my device normally and everything working?
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so one person says that I can install updates via twrp and then magisk or no-verity zip and the second one says that I must have stock fw in order to update .... so how exactly is that?
Can i flash updates from asus website for e.g UL-ASUS_Z017D_1-WW-15.0410.1801.40-user with TWRP then flash magisk? or no-verity? to boot my device normally and everything working?
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No you can't and you don't need the no-verity zip after magisk 15.4 released.
@Eng.Raman @ktl20
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No you can't and you don't need the no-verity zip after magisk 15.4 released.
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if you want to use stock recovery, you don't need magisk or the no-verity file. If you want to use twrp, because it works for the 100th time, you will need either.
Ktl20, you will not brick your phone trying either method, so why don't you experiment and find out for yourself, that's the best way to learn.
wang1chung said:
@Eng.Raman
if you want to use stock recovery, you don't need magisk or the no-verity file. If you want to use twrp, because it works for the 100th time, you will need either.
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I mean when updating ota via stock recovery then root with magisk we don't need to flash the no-verity zip after magisk 15.4 released.
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I mean when updating ota via stock recovery then root with magisk we don't need to flash the no-verity zip after magisk 15.4 released.
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my apologies, I misunderstood
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so one person says that I can install updates via twrp and then magisk or no-verity zip and the second one says that I must have stock fw in order to update .... so how exactly is that?
Can i flash updates from asus website for e.g UL-ASUS_Z017D_1-WW-15.0410.1801.40-user with TWRP then flash magisk? or no-verity? to boot my device normally and everything working?
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Magisk only, no-verity file is not work. You can install the updates through twrp 3.1.1 and then flash magisk.
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Magisk only, no-verity file is not work. You can install the updates through twrp 3.1.1 and then flash magisk.
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twrp-3.1.1 is not compatible with oreo and installing ota / firmware zips via twrp is NOT recommended and NOT the safest way.
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twrp-3.1.1 is not compatible with oreo and installing ota / firmware zips via twrp is NOT recommended and NOT the safest way.
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Have you tried that yet. I have done it too many time to know exact it would be. And i agree with your opinion that flash raw file is the safest way but my way is not too bad to make it trouble.
ktl20 said:
Hi all
I have ze520kl updated to oreo via ota update. Then I unlocked bootloader with official asus app.Now I want to know how to install Magisk without Twrp recovery. And what about future updates of fw? How to install it on my phone when I will have unlocked bootloader with official app, stock recovery and rooted with Magisk?
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How did u unlocked via official app please help me
Ive just clicked The app icon and it did it.
[email protected] said:
How did u unlocked via official app please help me
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Please use unofficial unlock method (retains warranty & you will get OTAs)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-3/how-to/updated-unlock-relock-bootloader-t3749456
Hey guys,
My G5+, which is running NPN25.137-83, rooted with Magisk, TWRP, Xposed just prompted me for an OTA update.
I'm guessing if i try to update i'll (best case scenario) break something, worst case brick my phone.
I'm running Aug2017 security patch.
This OTA update says it includes Security updates till Nov2017 + Stability improvements.
Any suggestions? Thanks!
seed_87 said:
Hey guys,
My G5+, which is running NPN25.137-83, rooted with Magisk, TWRP, Xposed just prompted me for an OTA update.
I'm guessing if i try to update i'll (best case scenario) break something, worst case brick my phone.
I'm running Aug2017 security patch.
This OTA update says it includes Security updates till Nov2017 + Stability improvements.
Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Do not apply the update, it will end up failing as you have TWRP installed, but every time you restart your phone, it will boot to TWRP and then you'll have to reboot from TWRP to bootloader and then system. Anyways, I recommend waiting until the OP of the TWRP flashable stock thread updates the links with that update and then flash the update via TWRP. Make sure you go into developer options and turn off automatic updates. You can also use an app to freeze Motorola update service if you don't want to be notified about the update.
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Do not apply the update, it will end up failing as you have TWRP installed, but every time you restart your phone, it will boot to TWRP and then you'll have to reboot from TWRP to bootloader and then system. Anyways, I recommend waiting until the OP of the TWRP flashable stock thread updates the links with that update and then flash the update via TWRP. Make sure you go into developer options and turn off automatic updates. You can also use an app to freeze Motorola update service if you don't want to be notified about the update.
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Per the TWRP flashable stock thread guide, I downloaded the OTA and shared the zip there
Thanks @jeffsga88! I will disable automatic updates to avoid any accidents.