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HTC One M9 Camera Compared to that of the iPhone 6

The camera is the one thing that worries me the most when I think about whether or not to get the M9 and the more samples I see of it the less convinced I am (even more so when I see Galaxy S6 samples). I really am keen to see full reviews of the device to be sure...
http://goo.gl/sLuJR2

joelxda said:
The camera is the one thing that worries me the most when I think about whether or not to get the M9 and the more samples I see of it the less convinced I am (even more so when I see Galaxy S6 samples). I really am keen to see full reviews of the device to be sure...
http://goo.gl/sLuJR2
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Once more: the HTC One M9 does not have final software. The quality will improve as it has in the last couple of days.

MoonRaven said:
Once more: the HTC One M9 does not have final software. The quality will improve as it has in the last couple of days.
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I know, which is why I say I'm waiting for the full reviews to come out.

The camera has never been a stong selling point on the HTC One. If this is very important to you, then i definitely would go with the S6. Considering all the pros and cons, the HTC One M9 is still the best fit for me.

On the plus side the iPhone looked better than BOTH the M9 and the GS6. The GS6 shots were too warm while the M9 shots just weren't good. They are mediocre, which is unfortunate and sadly reminds me of using a Sony Xperia Z3 in terms of color reproduction, clarity and image.
Good sigh of relief that Samsung's camera can be good with tweaks versus the iPhone you can take out and just point and shoot.

M9 seemed to have higher than usual exposure settings resulting in slightly whited out images (especially the first one in that link), nothing that can't be corrected software side by proper calibration - at this stage I wouldn't be concerned about the camera.

I'm sure that everyone will be happy their M9 cameras (rear and front ). Not sure if it could best S6 but iphone 6 will not be an issue.

Have both s6 edge and m9 on order, and hope and think they will do better with final software. Use the iPhone 6+ as my daily device atm and the camera is very solid. So even with the new "camera" or optics I think both HTC and Samsung have to work to beat the iPhone, as it just do good pictures most of the time and easy and fast camera ui/focus.
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Am I the only one that thought the M9 was better than the iphone in that link the op posted?

Ndaoud360 said:
Am I the only one that thought the M9 was better than the iphone in that link the op posted?
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Glad you said that, I thought it was just me, apart from the one of the news stand, which on my monitor appeared quite blurred, verging on out of focus even, I just preferred the "look" or feel of the HTC pictures. In all honesty, none of them are poor at all and I would be happy with using any of them as daily shooters to be fair.

One hopes that both
Samsung and HTC don't increase the price by another 10k like they did last year..........actually if they do then Note4 suddenly becomes a interesting option..
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I read most of the comments before I saw the photos.
To be honest I didn't find and big differences between iPhone and M9 and I was expecting bad photos from the iPhone.
Having in mind that the iPhone has a final software and also that Apple always auto-enhances its photos, I don't see any problems with M9 in these samples.

Ndaoud360 said:
Am I the only one that thought the M9 was better than the iphone in that link the op posted?
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I was at the Philadelphia Flower Show last weekend taking photos with my test M9. At least two iphone users admired the shots I took and the screen on the device.

Any improvements with the M9 screen compared to M8?

vegetaleb said:
Any improvements with the M9 screen compared to M8?
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Yes, the M9's screen is markedly better than my M8. It's the same pixel density, but it's more bright, and does not wash out as much outside as the M8's can.

hgoldner said:
Yes, the M9's screen is markedly better than my M8. It's the same pixel density, but it's more bright, and does not wash out as much outside as the M8's can.
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Nice!
You still have the M9? if yes did you get updates that improved the camera quality?

vegetaleb said:
Nice!
You still have the M9? if yes did you get updates that improved the camera quality?
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We get FOTA's every 36-48 hours (thankfully, not requiring a full factory reset). The camera algorithms have improved stability and quality steadily since I first started with the unit in January. This past weekend's shots were exceptional.

hgoldner said:
We get FOTA's every 36-48 hours (thankfully, not requiring a full factory reset). The camera algorithms have improved stability and quality steadily since I first started with the unit in January. This past weekend's shots were exceptional.
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Thanks! :good:
Can you compare with the S6 samples we can see online?

vegetaleb said:
Thanks! :good:
Can you compare with the S6 samples we can see online?
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Not really. Comparing photos online is a variable of what monitors are being used, etc. The pixel densities don't match, the shots have to be of the same subjects. I haven't seen the S6 samples, I can only compare images between my M8, an HTC Re, and a Nexus 7

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Not really. Comparing photos online is a variable of what monitors are being used, etc. The pixel densities don't match, the shots have to be of the same subjects. I haven't seen the S6 samples, I can only compare images between my M8, an HTC Re, and a Nexus 7
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Are the one's of the m9 better?

The Pixel 2 Photography Thread

I don't get impressed by technology much, but the Pixel 2's camera is truly impressive. I think it's better even than what reviews are saying. Every other phone I've owned I've been able to get good photos if I held it right, in the right light, with no movement, and the perfect combination of factors. With the Pixel 2, I find it nearly impossible to take a bad photo. Everything comes out good.
Let's share some of our favorite Pixel 2 shots.
(These obviously are down-scaled so the clarity isn't going to be the same as full-res)

Night time picture of full moon. No edits. Flash off everything else auto.

Telperion said:
I don't get impressed by technology much, but the Pixel 2's camera is truly impressive. I think it's better even than what reviews are saying. Every other phone I've owned I've been able to get good photos if I held it right, in the right light, with no movement, and the perfect combination of factors. With the Pixel 2, I find it nearly impossible to take a bad photo. Everything comes out good.
Let's share some of our favorite Pixel 2 shots.
(These obviously are down-scaled so the clarity isn't going to be the same as full-res)
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Some lovely photos dude! My sentiments too, really love this phone and the camera capabilities. It's only going to get better with the visual core and machine learning for portrait shots.

Agreed

sstanton86 said:
Some lovely photos dude! My sentiments too, really love this phone and the camera capabilities. It's only going to get better with the visual core and machine learning for portrait shots.
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Same with yours, and probably similarly I didn't set out to take photos, I was just out and around and snapped what I saw.
This was a very low light environment but the detail it retains in the pine needles is incredible.

Direct linking is not working I guess.
The last two I played around with the editing options in the GPhoto app.

The rum and coke makes a good wallpaper.

sstanton86 said:
Some lovely photos dude! My sentiments too, really love this phone and the camera capabilities. It's only going to get better with the visual core and machine learning for portrait shots.
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great shots :good:
hrd+ mode was on or off?
have you tuned those pics using snapseed etc ?

joyshvabra said:
great shots :good:
hrd+ mode was on or off?
have you tuned those pics using snapseed etc ?
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Thanks! HDR+ was on on all of them by default. Got some truly amazing ones as well as those that day, was such an amazing backdrop. All are non-edited and I didn't use Snapseed.
Also I've only just discovered HDR Enhanced and HDR+ are two separate modes, still a little confused as to the difference, as I know HDR Enhanced does take longer to process. I've tried googling it but read a lot of conflicting information. So would be ace if someone who knew what they were talking about could explain the difference between them.

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Thanks! HDR+ was on on all of them by default. Got some truly amazing ones as well as those that day, was such an amazing backdrop. All are non-edited and I didn't use Snapseed.
Also I've only just discovered HDR Enhanced and HDR+ are two separate modes, still a little confused as to the difference, as I know HDR Enhanced does take longer to process. I've tried googling it but read a lot of conflicting information. So would be ace if someone who knew what they were talking about could explain the difference between them.
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HDR+ = auto HDR. App will decide whether HDR is needed or not based on the situation.
HDR enhanced= HDR always on.
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My only complaint is the Noise and artifacts that it has. But I have yet to have a good phone that does well on that front. I think it is amazing what they are able to do with mostly software.

Just starting to realize how the camera in general has consistancy as well as always being snappy.
Also found that the selfie camera is actually usable. High Dynamic Range is awesome!
Portrait Mode is okay but looking closely shows mishaps around the edges of things, ears etc. But. Considering that [emoji624] mode works on both cameras as well as working with software as the main supplier of quality I'm really impressed. The Pixel 2 is starting to grow on me. And I've had both G6, S8, S7, S6, HTC 10, 6P, MI 5s pixel port, MI Mix 2.

I've uploaded some Pixel 2 photos from Berlin and Prague. Camera still amazing. Most of the photos were taken with HDR+ Enhanced (I've stopped using HDR+ after the first 1 or 2 days). (I took 1400 photos/videos in 2 weeks with the Pixel 2 and Nexus 6P).
Honestly, anyone who had a Nexus 5X, 6P, Pixel 1 shouldn't be really impressed with photo quality, as this HDR+ quality was already great since the Nexus 5 2013 was released and the easy-detail, and the resolution quality is more or less the same since the Nexus 5X/6P (I haven't used the N6).
Now the focus speed, HDR+ processing speed, camera launch speed, capture speed, video quality and stabilization, etc etc. Those are other things that really improved in each device upgrade IMO.
Pixel 2 samples:
https://imgur.com/a/5NNDB
Nexus 6P/5X samples:
https://imgur.com/a/TwJwd
Nexus 5 (2013) samples:
[The old 5 also had great quality, but the MP difference is quite noticeable compared to 5X/6P/Pixel/Pixel 2. That HDR+ camera was IMO still superb for 2013/2014/2015 years before the 5X/6P and other smartphones were released, I honestly had to sell a Z5 Compact because I was missing the Nexus 5 camera]
https://imgur.com/a/TEPCc

I didn't want to start a new thread.......can anyone comment on these (P1 vs P2). Notice that ISO on P1 is much higher and yet images look the same and in some when you zoom in Pixel 1 is less blurry and just a better quality overall
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FTyfRvJHxWAx38e93

nice shots @duckstardeluxe

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My beautiful wife. Love the photo quality, too!

kolyan said:
I didn't want to start a new thread.......can anyone comment on these (P1 vs P2). Notice that ISO on P1 is much higher and yet images look the same and in some when you zoom in Pixel 1 is less blurry and just a better quality overall
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FTyfRvJHxWAx38e93
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I dont see much difference. I even prefer pixel 1 photos in there so it make me wonder why so much praise and hype for camera of pixel 2 when its not much different to last generation pixel.
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My beautiful wife. Love the photo quality, too!
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You have a lovely wife

Our Chihuahua. HDR+ Enhanced. No flash. No edits.
I did zoom in and take screenshot.

Rajaasim1980 said:
I dont see much difference. I even prefer pixel 1 photos in there so it make me wonder why so much praise and hype for camera of pixel 2 when its not much different to last generation pixel.
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You have a lovely wife
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I ordered a replacement to see if my Pixel 2 is defective. Most indoor pictures I take with back camera come out better on Pixel 1

Made an album with the first two weeks of using the camera capabilities of the Pixel 2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/JCobMNrB58ZqlAQg2
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FIRST OnePlus 5T camera review by heise.de

https://m.heise.de/ct/artikel/OnePlus-5T-Keine-Zoom-Kamera-mehr-3887487.html
Heise.de is one very serious german tech site and they say that since other sites already broke the NDA they dont feel obliged to hold information back.
To make it short: camera does not get better, low light performance gets even worse.
Long version: The camera setup (still WITHOUT OIS!) will be 16+20 mp again BUT the 20 mp sensor this time won't work as telephoto lens. Also aperture changes from f/2.6 to also f/1.7 like the 16 mp main snapper. Pixel size of the 20 mp sensor stays at 1.0 um. This sensor will, despite its crazily small pixel size, automatically work as low light shooter when light levels drop below 3.5 lux, making pictures look even worse than with the 16 mp sensor.
The Software does NOT use both sensors to combine the picture information like it is the case for other phones. Thus, picture quality does not seem to improve compared to the OP 5.
My comment: This really doesnt seem to make any sense. Why not put in a sensor with bigger pixels if you want a lowlight specific unit? Why take one with even smaller pixels? Wtf!? Did they have too many of those crappy 20mp sensor left over? Or why not at least use both sensors to combine the two die pics? Or why not just use the fabulous sensor that the s8/pixel2 uses and put an OIS in it? This is so stupid oneplus, i just dont get it..
Furthermore: Usb will again be 2.0.
2015 all over again..
Also, unlike the introductionary text of this forum suggests, battery will be the same as the OP5, 3300 mah. Thus, endurance will be lower compared to the 5.
And the device will also feature face recognition to unlock.
What do you think?

This is kinda disappointing. I was kinda missing my OnePlus 5 going to the pixel 2xl because I really loved the feel and everything on the o5. I was also thinking I should have waited on the 5t and hope they made some small improvements to the camera. This seems like a bit if a downgrade. Battery life will still be really good but slightly worse. I don't see why they couldn't have fitted in a slightly larger battery

Finally get to review it
Finally got my new glasses and can check all of the new great features With these phones. It has been a while since I bought a smart phoneBut the one plus is something that I there are just way too expensive.

I wonder if it possible cross-device ROMs between OnePlus 5 & 5T.

ps000000 said:
I wonder if it possible cross-device ROMs between OnePlus 5 & 5T.
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I think it will be possible. Since the changes are similar like 3 and 3t. Lets see

yeah, for me the missing ois is a deal breaker. I planned to upgrade from my op3t but now i will keep it. Hopefully they will learn from it and add a camera with ois for the 6

GSMArena have some shots in their hands-on here.
If you zoom in and look at what it's done to the foliage in the first 2 shots you might wish you hadn't. This would be considered poor in a low-light shot, never mind outdoor daylight. I just hope that this is pre-pre-production software that they stupidly gave to a reviewer and not what they are planning on selling.

Maybe anybody has a acutal review of the camera of the Oppo R11s?
It should have the same camera configuration and software "magic".
Results should be an indication for the possible camera performance of the OP5T.
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GSMArena have some shots in their hands-on here.
If you zoom in and look at what it's done to the foliage in the first 2 shots you might wish you hadn't. This would be considered poor in a low-light shot, never mind outdoor daylight. I just hope that this is pre-pre-production software that they stupidly gave to a reviewer and not what they are planning on selling.
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Interesting. GSMarena comments on the lowlight pictures:
"We also went out for some night shots around the usual locations. We won't be passing any verdicts just yet, but the results look promising."

When they said the second camera would have f1.7 aperture (without probably mentioning the pixel size) I thought they would do something special to combine the result of both cameras and create nice pictures. I didn't expect that they only would use one of them....
OnePlus clearly doesn't know much about software photography, but they know a lot about marketing...

Furthermore: Usb will again be 2.0.
2015 all over again..
Seriously brah?

Also, unlike the introductionary text of this forum suggests, battery will be the same as the OP5, 3300 mah. Thus, endurance will be lower compared to the 5.
And the device will also feature face recognition to unlock.
What do you think?
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Well, the screen says 6.0 VS 5.5 But it's taller but thinner side to side. The total screen area should be the same or very close. I doubt enough to affect battery in any significant way. It's also a newer panel, so possibly more efficient than the old 5.5 which was a carryover from the previous OP.

The screen is not narrower but a lot longer so the real estate is quite bigger.
Its 136x68mm vs 122x68mm.

A few sites have mentioned the camera is a bit lackluster, but until we can get a good comparison between the 5 and 5T I'm not sure how to take these comments.
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Camera will be more powerfull if you install Google camera.

Martin.077 said:
Camera will be more powerfull if you install Google camera.
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i feel so too, on the op5 the difference is huge in low light conditions with the hdr+

Unfortunately there isnt a port that works properly. Either no touch to focus or other drawbacks

Lasersdude said:
Unfortunately there isnt a port that works properly. Either no touch to focus or other drawbacks
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And the microdots. It was too much of a hack for something I need to be reliable at least IMO.
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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ding-combination-of-specs-design-and-price/2/
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t-review-1687p8.php
mario toys on arstech and low light comparison on gsm
5t looks better than 5 there

FridrufHau said:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ding-combination-of-specs-design-and-price/2/
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t-review-1687p8.php
mario toys on arstech and low light comparison on gsm
5t looks better than 5 there
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It is still producing oil paintings in daylight though.
Mind boggling that this is still not fixed! The sensor is capable to produce better photos but the processing...
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/op5T-2.jpg
This issue is soo old by now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Someone needs to tell OnePlus that a little noise doesn't hurt as long as the photos come out sharp!

AcmE85 said:
This issue is soo old by now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Someone needs to tell OnePlus that a little noise doesn't hurt as long as the photos come out sharp!
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Ok so moving is never sharp, although with other camera apps?

camera pics vs pixel 2 xl

So I got a crazy deal on a pixel 2 xl off Craigslist and have been comparing the two phones all weekend. I gotta say I was expecting the pixel too be much better. While it is smoother, but not by much, I'm shocked at how close the cameras are!! I've taken multiple pics and asked my wife to tell me which ones look better. I'd say 6 out of 10 times she picks the essential!! She's even notes that the screen looks better on the ph1.
The first pic is with the essential, portrait mode vs pixel 2 portrait mode.

The pixel and pixel 2 line shines when it comes to low lighting condition. Also video recording using EIS is amazing compared to zero in the essential. Hopefully they enable it soon!

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The pixel and pixel 2 line shines when it comes to low lighting condition. Also video recording using EIS is amazing compared to zero in the essential. Hopefully they enable it soon!
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I don't recorded too many videos, mainly use my phone for pics. The sample I posted was in low light and I think the essential pic def looks better.
I know overall when you get crazy into the specs etc the pixel cameras are better. But my point is that they're really close in most cases, sometimes ph1 is better and sometimes the pixel is.
Just wanted to post something since the camera updates cause that's where this phone really gets beat up and I think that's not the case anymore!!!

mpetruzz said:
I don't recorded too many videos, mainly use my phone for pics. The sample I posted was in low light and I think the essential pic def looks better.
I know overall when you get crazy into the specs etc the pixel cameras are better. But my point is that they're really close in most cases, sometimes ph1 is better and sometimes the pixel is.
Just wanted to post something since the camera updates cause that's where this phone really gets beat up and I think that's not the case anymore!!!
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Oh I totally agreed, the camera is much better now. However, in real low light such as 2700k floor lamp, or night stand light, it struggles horribly and the pics are washed out, and some times have red tint to it. I would upload pics but I am kinda lazy heheh. Will try to post pics later, but I did a huge comparison between gcam hdr+ modes on reddit if u wanna go to see it.

Good camera review. Decent results off point and shoot.

This the best camera review to date. Manual control under Pro Photo produces really decent photos. http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/honor_7x_review

Personally I find camera poor very dull lacks colour rubbish in low light haven't tinkered with pro mode much but found very small improvement hope it's better with oreo
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DoobyDroid said:
Personally I find camera poor very dull lacks colour rubbish in low light haven't tinkered with pro mode much but found very small improvement hope it's better with oreo
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Its keeping in mind the price at which this is packed at.. It was nearly competing the 5t
But 5t gives crisper images due to more pixels of course..

I had the Honor 7x and the OnePlus 5T at the same time and i didn't see much difference in the camera. The 5T can get good low light shot but it is a hit and miss situation, same with the 7x. In daylight the 7x is an excellent shooter for the price, actually i did a full review and by the end i post some photo samples if anyone's interested.

SPYRO80 said:
I had the Honor 7x and the OnePlus 5T at the same time and i didn't see much difference in the camera. The 5T can get good low light shot but it is a hit and miss situation, same with the 7x. In daylight the 7x is an excellent shooter for the price, actually i did a full review and by the end i post some photo samples if anyone's interested.
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