Enabling factory settings does not brick your device - Google Pixel Guides, News, & Discussion

It is under the impression of a few that enabling the factory settings in a boot image will brick you. The brick is a myth every phone made once it's at the factory it's first at factory settings then the oems come in and apply the locks. By enabling factory settings your not doing anything which will brick you there's 0 chance of brick

user-67 said:
It is under the impression of a few that enabling the factory settings in a boot image will brick you. The brick is a myth every phone made once it's at the factory it's first at factory settings then the oems come in and apply the locks. By enabling factory settings your not doing anything which will brick you there's 0 chance of brick
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Because I'm intrigued, what do you mean enabling factory settings? are you talking about restoring the phone back to factory? or what are you talking about?

Like I said when the phone is at the factory it is in full factory unlocked mode so how could putting it back to factory state brick it? It was factory then the oems changed some stuff and disabled some settings now all I did was show you how to enable it again so it can be at factory... I swear if being at factory would of bricked it then I guess the oems did a real brick of a job there and wouldn't of been able to apply any settings cause it would of been bricked once they got it right out of the factory when it was in development stages and being tested before it was put out on a production line.

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Like I said when the phone is at the factory it is in full factory unlocked mode so how could putting it back to factory state brick it? It was factory then the oems changed some stuff and disabled some settings now all I did was show you how to enable it again so it can be at factory... I swear if being at factory would of bricked it then I guess the oems did a real brick of a job there and wouldn't of been able to apply any settings cause it would of been bricked once they got it right out of the factory when it was in development stages and being tested before it was put out on a production line.
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Okay, so with the boot.img that you modified it's setting it back to "factory settings"? I still have your first boot.img that you posted and I'm wanting to attempt to flash it. I think I need to just sign it with Chainfire's tool and then attempt to sideload it and see what happens.

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has someone else been successful by flashing your boot.img and gaining an unlocked bootloader? or am i going to be the guinea pig?

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Getting a replacement phone, how to unroot.

So, I called tmobile to get a replace phone because of the GPS issue.
Will I need to unroot my phone since the techs will probably be checking the phone out so that it wasn't messed with.
I have superusers permissions on the phone and i Just simply flashed the update.zip.
I don't know how to work with adb, so if someone can give me some info on what to do I'd greatly appreciate it.
Read the sticky for directions.
^ thank you!
Thanks guys I'm a dumbass.
If I unroot, I will have to perform a factory reset? Will all the original tmobile apps be on the phone for when I send it back?
I returned mine with superuser on it still and they never said anything....
I did a factory reset and it didn't out my apps back. I say go to recovery first and wipe then factory reset if there is that option I don't know. .
But if not meh, wouldn't worry to much..

[GUIDE] [HOW TO] Safely re-lock bootloader on Android 5.1

This guide is for the safe procedure for re-locking your bootloader with the new security features of Android 5.1 on the Nexus 6
The purpose of re-locking your bootloader should solely be used for RMA or resale of your device. Also if you have flashed a factory image and want the added security of a locked bootloader. Or possibly it is required by your employer. If you're required by your employer, then I suggest you reconsider unlocking in the first place. If you're returning to stock, to simply fix problems on your device, then I also strongly suggest leaving the bootloader unlocked. To put it in simple terms, if you want to keep a custom recovery and ROM, mod, root, etc, then leave your bootloader unlocked. Re-locking the bootloader on the Nexus 6 will cause your device to be wiped.
Please read this post by @efrant for more clarification:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60128929
Thanks @efrant @cam30era @rootSU @clairez for collaboration and advice.
This is based on a 100% stock, encrypted, un-modded Nexus 6
Due to significant security changes in Android 5.1, there are some specific steps that must be taken in order to safely re-lock your bootloader during and after installing a factory image.
WARNING! These steps are confirmed working but there is still risk involved. If you do not ABSOLUTELY need to re-lock then I strongly suggest leaving the bootloader unlocked.
FOLLOWING THESE STEPS WILL WIPE YOUR DEVICE SO BACKUP YOUR DATA!
This is based on you (the user) having already read and followed instructions on downloading the factory image and having it ready to install.
STEP 1
Disable all security locks on your phone.
On your phone, go into your settings, click Security. In Screen security, click on Screen lock, enter your passcode/pin/pattern then select none.
You will get a prompt that Device protection features will no longer work. Click OK.
STEP 2
**OPTIONAL**
Thanks @gee2012
This step is optional because successful installation of the factory image will remove this info anyway.
Remove your Google account.
In settings, click Accounts, click Google then click on your account name. (your gmail address)
Click the 3 dot menu button in top right of screen and select Remove account. You will get a prompt That this will delete all messages, contacts and other data from your phone. Click REMOVE ACCOUNT.
STEP 3
This step is optional and may or may not be needed but I recommend doing this.
Preform a factory reset from your phone settings.
Open settings and click on Backup & reset. Click Factory data reset.
You will receive a prompt stating that this will erase all data from your phone's internal storage, click RESET PHONE.
The reset takes quite a while to complete, approximately 10 to 15 or more minutes for a 32gb model and 20 minutes or more for a 64gb model, so BE PATIENT!
Your phone will reboot when completed.
STEP 4
IMPORTANT!!
When your phone reboots, you will have to skip all account set up and ABSOLUTELY do not set any security features up. Skip EVERYTHING!
Go to settings and enable Developer options. (About phone>tap build number 7 times)
Once you have developer options enabled, enable USB Debugging and tick the box to allow OEM unlock.
I suggest preforming a reboot here to verify that OEM unlock sticks. After the reboot enter developer options to verify OEM unlock is still ticked.
If it is, we will proceed. If not, ensure you have followed the previous steps correctly. If you have and for some reason the setting won't stick, DO NOT PROCEED OR YOU MAY END UP STUCK IN A BOOT LOOP WITH NO CURRENT WAY TO FIX!
STEP 5
If setting has stuck, you are ready to unlock your bootloader and install the factory image using one of the ways outlined elsewhere in this forum.
After installation is complete, reboot to recovery and again preform a factory reset. Reboot to Android.
STEP 6
IMPORTANT!
Upon completion of factory reset from recovery and reboot to Android, it is important to follow this procedure so you may now safely lock your bootloader.
SKIP ALL ACCOUNT AND SECURITY SET UP AGAIN! Go to settings and enable developer options again. Enable USB debugging and tick allow OEM unlock.
Again, I recommend a reboot at this point to verify the settings stick.
Use the button combo or ADB to reboot to bootloader.
Use the command fastboot oem lock
Your device will wipe again and reboot.
CONGRATULATIONS! You now have a locked bootloader and you may proceed to restore your phone.
See here for info from Google about the new security features:
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6172890?hl=en
Thanks @efrant for finding this link.
Thanks also to all of those who helped to confirm this process works consistently.
Thanks to @clairez for this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/update-to-5-1-lock-bootloader-t3058480
*Disclamer*
I am not responsible if your device bricks, loops or causes mass world hysteria.
*How to prepare your Nexus 6 for resale*
Since the onset of Android 5.1, there are some specific steps needed to ensure you can sell your device and not have the seller need your Google password when they receive your device. Please read this guide provided by @PatimusXPrime
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60455167&postcount=43
TWRP RECOVERY INSTALLED ONLY
The following info is for users who have TWRP installed and are stuck in bootloop (soft brick) after wiping OS with a locked bootloader.
Credit to this thread:
Thanks @ixa20
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3053783
STEP 1
Boot into bootloader.
STEP 2
Use fastboot and issue the commands:
fastboot format userdata
fastboot format cache
This should allow you to boot back into TWRP.
Flash a ROM and get up and running.
Unlock your bootloader and leave it that way.
Thanks also to @rootSU for posting this solution many, MANY times.
I hear a lot about locking the boot loader, but what exactly am I missing out on in terms of security with an unlocked boot loader, and rooted
productofusa said:
I hear a lot about locking the boot loader, but what exactly am I missing out on in terms of security with an unlocked boot loader, and rooted
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I think, primarily, if you are unencrypted you run the risk of your data being compromised if your phone is lost or stolen. Plus, the new security features are not proven to work 100% when bootloader is unlocked. Simply by rooting, you've opened your device to be more vulnerable to malicious attacks. I'm sure you already know that.
Evolution_Freak said:
I think, primarily, if you are unencrypted you run the risk of your data being compromised if your phone is lost or stolen. Plus, the new security features are not proven to work 100% when bootloader is unlocked. Simply by rooting, you've opened your device to be more vulnerable to malicious attacks. I'm sure you already know that.
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I see, nothing I wasn't already aware of! It seems that a significant amount of people that are used to an unlocked rooted handset are quick to jump on the relock the bootloader omg security bandwagon regardless of the consequences. Having said that thanks to folks such as yourself most of the kinks seem to be worked out at this point.
Thanks
Okay, so I'm new to the whole unlocking/flashing thing.... I bought a nexus 6 from Verizon which obviously came with 5.1 out of the box. I was using stock with my google account attached and a pin lock. I successfully unlocked by bootloader and rooted with twrp and the nexus toolkit. I have also since flashed chroma. Am I to understand that I can not ever go back to unrooted stock and locked booloader, now?
I'm really sorry for what is probably a stupid noob question, but I'm really paranoid now. TIA!!
Cannibal Oxen said:
Okay, so I'm new to the whole unlocking/flashing thing.... I bought a nexus 6 from Verizon which obviously came with 5.1 out of the box. I was using stock with my google account attached and a pin lock. I successfully unlocked by bootloader and rooted with twrp and the nexus toolkit. I have also since flashed chroma. Am I to understand that I can not ever go back to unrooted stock and locked booloader, now?
I'm really sorry for what is probably a stupid noob question, but I'm really paranoid now. TIA!!
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The first post explains how to lock the bootloader safely. If you're going g back to stock, simply follow the steps
Cannibal Oxen said:
Okay, so I'm new to the whole unlocking/flashing thing.... I bought a nexus 6 from Verizon which obviously came with 5.1 out of the box. I was using stock with my google account attached and a pin lock. I successfully unlocked by bootloader and rooted with twrp and the nexus toolkit. I have also since flashed chroma. Am I to understand that I can not ever go back to unrooted stock and locked booloader, now?
I'm really sorry for what is probably a stupid noob question, but I'm really paranoid now. TIA!!
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No, not at all. You can flash a factory image and return to stock at anytime. However, if you plan on flashing ROMs again, there's no need to relock the bootloader. For instance, if you wanted to return to stock to say, get an OTA, the bootloader being unlocked wouldn't affect that negatively.
If you did desire to relock, following this guide, as far as disabling the security and Google account, you should be able to relock. The important thing is making sure that pesky "allow OEM unlock" option remains checked after a reboot.
Cannibal Oxen said:
Am I to understand that I can not ever go back to unrooted stock and locked booloader, now?
I'm really sorry for what is probably a stupid noob question, but I'm really paranoid now. TIA!!
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You can go back to stock. And then, subsequently relock the bootloader.
And the question is not "stupid". Noob questions are encouraged here. That's how you learn.
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The first post explains how to lock the bootloader safely. If you're going g back to stock, simply follow the steps
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Fair enough. The part that confused me was the first five steps appear to address steps required to unlock the bootloader. I was afraid since I already unlocked mine without first disabling security and removing my account that it would somehow preclude me from ever being able to relock the bootloader should that need ever arise in the future.
I really appreciate the help!
Yeah, I learned my lesson, DON'T PLAY WITH LOCKED BOOTLOADERS ON THIS DEVICE, EVER!
I had a locked bootloader, and no System (I had wiped it accidentally).
Luckily though I had the sense to keep TWRP installed, but I couldn't boot to it, it was just bootlooping to the TWRP splash screen.
I thought I had just lost a $650 investment, but here's what I did:
Boot to bootloader, then
Code:
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase userdata
Then I could boot to TWRP! So I
Code:
adb push (ChromaOS zip here) /sdcard/
But when I tried to flash the Data and Cache partitions kept giving me errors, I couldn't flash anything!
I went to sleep (or tried to sleep, but couldn't) I was panicking!
When I woke up I tried one more thing:
From bootloader I did
Code:
fastboot format cache
fastboot format userdata
(Notice FORMAT instead of erase!)
I booted into TWRP and was able to flash ChromaOS, I was able to enable OEM Unlock, and flashed the full Factory Image, completely back to stock.
I booted once with unlocked bootloader to verify it was working, then locked it.
If I had the stock recovery, I would've had a $650 paperweight.
DO NOT MESS AROUND WITH LOCKED BOOTLOADERS! DON'T RISK IT!
gorei23 said:
Yeah, I learned my lesson, DON'T PLAY WITH LOCKED BOOTLOADERS ON THIS DEVICE, EVER!
I had a locked bootloader, and no System (I had wiped it accidentally).
Luckily though I had the sense to keep TWRP installed, but I couldn't boot to it, it was just bootlooping to the TWRP splash screen.
I thought I had just lost a $650 investment, but here's what I did:
Boot to bootloader, then
Code:
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase userdata
Then I could boot to TWRP! So I
Code:
adb push (ChromaOS zip here) /sdcard/
But when I tried to flash the Data and Cache partitions kept giving me errors, I couldn't flash anything!
I went to sleep (or tried to sleep, but couldn't) I was panicking!
When I woke up I tried one more thing:
From bootloader I did
Code:
fastboot format cache
fastboot format userdata
(Notice FORMAT instead of erase!)
I booted into TWRP and was able to flash ChromaOS, I was able to enable OEM Unlock, and flashed the full Factory Image, completely back to stock.
I booted once with unlocked bootloader to verify it was working, then locked it.
If I had the stock recovery, I would've had a $650 paperweight.
DO NOT MESS AROUND WITH LOCKED BOOTLOADERS! DON'T RISK IT!
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With the method I've outlined and personally tried, it can be safely done. The security settings are the issue and a safe way around that has been found.
Evolution_Freak said:
With the method I've outlined and personally tried, it can be safely done. The security settings are the issue and a safe way around that has been found.
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I know, I'm just saying don't play around with it, if you're going to relock make sure that you KNOW it will work.
Can confirm that the outlined info here works flawlessly
I used this process to re-lock my phone after unlocking in the fastboot-enabled upgrade from OTA 5.1 "D" to stock 5.1 "E" an hour ago.
The easy part was unlocking/locking/rebooting in the correct order - the harrowing part was when my fastboot update of the radio failed, after which I figured out it was a transient USB issue with my system, so rebooted Windows and then everything went reasonably close to plan.
So, now I'm on "E" and with a locked bootloader (i.e., stock for Verizon). I'll be experimenting with custom ROMs after settling in with this for a bit, but wanted to test out VoLTE and other things before going the custom route.
Thanks again for this guide.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
I used this process to re-lock my phone after unlocking in the fastboot-enabled upgrade from OTA 5.1 "D" to stock 5.1 "E" an hour ago.
The easy part was unlocking/locking/rebooting in the correct order - the harrowing part was when my fastboot update of the radio failed, after which I figured out it was a transient USB issue with my system, so rebooted Windows and then everything went reasonably close to plan.
So, now I'm on "E" and with a locked bootloader (i.e., stock for Verizon). I'll be experimenting with custom ROMs after settling in with this for a bit, but wanted to test out VoLTE and other things before going the custom route.
Thanks again for this guide.
- ooofest
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Word of caution, don't flash stuff with a locked bootloader. If you get a bad flash and you can't boot, you'll be screwed.
Doesn't the setting in developer optionsto allow OEM unlock of the bootloader reset every boot on the new firmware? I know mine does on meanpop and chroma both 5.1 roms
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pwned3 said:
Doesn't the setting in developer optionsto allow OEM unlock of the bootloader reset every boot on the new firmware? I know mine does on meanpop and chroma both 5.1 roms
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Yes
pwned3 said:
Doesn't the setting in developer optionsto allow OEM unlock of the bootloader reset every boot on the new firmware? I know mine does on meanpop and chroma both 5.1 roms
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
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It does if you have "Device protection" enabled. If you do a factory reset and, while you are running through the set up wizard, do not enable "Device protection", then the " Allow OEM unlock" setting should stick.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
rootSU said:
Word of caution, don't flash stuff with a locked bootloader. If you get a bad flash and you can't boot, you'll be screwed.
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Before attempting to upgrade the stock level or going custom, I was planning to run through at least steps 1-4 again to enable me to safely unlock.
Or, do I only need to tick OEM Unlock, adb into stock recovery and then fastboot oem unlock without going through the suggested factory data reset step?
- ooofest

How can I unbrick nexus 6p if I didn't unlock bootloader or OEM?

I'm new to Android. Recently I got a new nexus 6p. I was so confused that whether I have to unlock bootloader or not. Currently I just want to experience the pure Android simply without rooting or changing anything. But I heard a lot about bricked nexus 6 that the device would not be manually fixed if it was not bootloader unlocked before. As I am in China where I have no warranty for my nexus 6p, I have to keep my device safe as possible as I can.
So my question is under the circumstance that I haven't unlocked bootloader or OEM:
How much probability could it be I do nothing but unexpectedly brick the device?
If it is bricked, is it possible to recover it?
Do common nexus 6p users have to unlock bootloader?
Another important thing should be mentioned. Generally I can't access to any service by google in China, so I utilize a proxy tool to get over the great firewall to use google. Is there any experience about the situation like me? I also heard a saying that upgrading nexus 6 firmware by OTA through a proxy tool in China may brick the device, because google can not save the upgrading information of the device for the reason that the proxy IP is not static, then google will push update again, and once you click it, brick.
Puzzled enough...Thanks in advance.
I am not 100% certain what you are asking... If you do not unlock the bootloader, you should not be able to brick your device. The only reason to unlock it is to flash a custom ROM (not official from Google) or to flash Google factory images, which it sounds like might be necessary for you being that you are in China and may not receive OTAs properly. This is a process of downloading a file from Google and flashing to your device after unlocking the bootloader.
Your post was not exactly clear partially, but is your phone already bricked and you are trying to recover, or simply asking for your own reference?
fury683 said:
I am not 100% certain what you are asking... If you do not unlock the bootloader, you should not be able to brick your device. The only reason to unlock it is to flash a custom ROM (not official from Google) or to flash Google factory images, which it sounds like might be necessary for you being that you are in China and may not receive OTAs properly. This is a process of downloading a file from Google and flashing to your device after unlocking the bootloader.
Your post was not exactly clear partially, but is your phone already bricked and you are trying to recover, or simply asking for your own reference?
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Thanks for replying. Could you please point out the unclear expressions? And I could edit them.
I have only unlocked nexus 6p bootloader, and the device is running well. I do not understand exactly why I have to do this, I just do it in case the situation described by other nexus 6 users happen to my nexus 6p. So I want to figure out the logic.
If you have no reason to unlock it, then you can relock it. Unlocking will always cause a full wipe (factory reset) of the device. Some users have stated that relocking the bootloader will also induce a wipe. If you want to leave it unlocked, this will allow you to flash factory images (such as updates from Google) as often as you'd like. It is possible to flash a factory image without losing any data by modifying the batch file used to flash the firmware.
Simply having the bootloader unlocked should not pose any threat to your device. You have to try very intentionally to flash firmware and risk bricking the device, it's not really something you can do by accident. The one thing I will mention is that with the bootloader unlocked, someone with the correct knowledge could flash a new image on your phone without needing your password or other security information. They would only need to power off the device, enter bootloader mode and plug into a PC to begin flashing. This would remove every trace of you and your data from the device and make it like it was brand new from the factory.
By keeping the bootloader locked and the "Allow OEM unlocking" option turned OFF, a person would need to have your password (or fingerprint) to gain access to this option in the settings, thus not allowing them to flash over the device as it is today.
Hope this helps.
fury683 said:
If you have no reason to unlock it, then you can relock it. Unlocking will always cause a full wipe (factory reset) of the device. Some users have stated that relocking the bootloader will also induce a wipe. If you want to leave it unlocked, this will allow you to flash factory images (such as updates from Google) as often as you'd like. It is possible to flash a factory image without losing any data by modifying the batch file used to flash the firmware.
Simply having the bootloader unlocked should not pose any threat to your device. You have to try very intentionally to flash firmware and risk bricking the device, it's not really something you can do by accident. The one thing I will mention is that with the bootloader unlocked, someone with the correct knowledge could flash a new image on your phone without needing your password or other security information. They would only need to power off the device, enter bootloader mode and plug into a PC to begin flashing. This would remove every trace of you and your data from the device and make it like it was brand new from the factory.
By keeping the bootloader locked and the "Allow OEM unlocking" option turned OFF, a person would need to have your password (or fingerprint) to gain access to this option in the settings, thus not allowing them to flash over the device as it is today.
Hope this helps.
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According to you, I should not be able to brick my device if I did not unlock the device. I can understand this. But the problem is I am in China...By using proxy, I could receive OTAs correctly. But some nexus 6 users in China still encountered with device bricked after upgrading firmware by OTAs even they didn't unlock bootloader. One possible reason is like what I mentioned in last paragraph #1.
I don't like the prompt each time when I reboot the device after unlocking bootloader. Let's make the problem simpler. Can I unbrick the device if it is bricked and bootloader locked?
I can't really speak to your concern regarding bricking from OTA. This should nearly never happen, but I would suspect that the proxy is the issue. If you are concerned about that particular instance being an issue, I would simply not accept the OTA and don't install it. The file will download to your device and you will see a notification very similar to this: http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/12/1c244e92c6a0cd69ca6e1a3037a05d62.jpg If you do not click Install, it will not install itself. You can click Later but usually cannot dismiss the notification. I have had the update pending on my Nexus 7 tablet that I don't often for months, but simply have not upgraded because I don't use it often enough to justify it.
If you want to be on the latest firmware for security reasons (Android 6/M will have monthly security patch releases from Google), you can download the factory images and flash yourself. However, if you believe there may be an issue because of the proxy you are using, the factory image could face the same issue as the OTA as you described. As I said, because I am not in China and do not use a proxy as you do, I cannot comment on how or why other users may have faced a hard brick scenario.
Ultimately, having the bootloader unlocked will allow you to flash the factory image over a bricked firmware caused by a corrupt (or otherwise unusable) OTA. If the phone can enter bootloader mode, you can flash the firmware and restore it to like new state. The warning message you see when booting is not able to be disabled without locking the bootloader again, but it only appears for a few moments. It was previously hidden on the Nexus 6 (not the 6p) so it might be possible in the future, but that is just a guess.
fury683 said:
I can't really speak to your concern regarding bricking from OTA. This should nearly never happen, but I would suspect that the proxy is the issue. If you are concerned about that particular instance being an issue, I would simply not accept the OTA and don't install it. The file will download to your device and you will see a notification very similar to this: If you do not click Install, it will not install itself. You can click Later but usually cannot dismiss the notification. I have had the update pending on my Nexus 7 tablet that I don't often for months, but simply have not upgraded because I don't use it often enough to justify it.
If you want to be on the latest firmware for security reasons (Android 6/M will have monthly security patch releases from Google), you can download the factory images and flash yourself. However, if you believe there may be an issue because of the proxy you are using, the factory image could face the same issue as the OTA as you described. As I said, because I am not in China and do not use a proxy as you do, I cannot comment on how or why other users may have faced a hard brick scenario.
Ultimately, having the bootloader unlocked will allow you to flash the factory image over a bricked firmware caused by a corrupt (or otherwise unusable) OTA. If the phone can enter bootloader mode, you can flash the firmware and restore it to like new state. The warning message you see when booting is not able to be disabled without locking the bootloader again, but it only appears for a few moments. It was previously hidden on the Nexus 6 (not the 6p) so it might be possible in the future, but that is just a guess.
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OK I choose to give in...leave it unlocked there.
Thank you very much!
gnange said:
OK I choose to give in...leave it unlocked there.
Thank you very much!
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The decision to leave it unlocked is the right decision. The other person replying in this thread is completely wrong when he says you can't brick a phone if you don't unlock it, that's completely and utterly incorrect. Sometimes things happen, unforeseen spontaneous problems happen all the time with smartphones. If this happens to you and your bootloader is locked there's absolutely nothing you can do to fix it. So yes, leave your bootloader unlocked as an insurance policy against the unforeseen.
@fury683, I'd think twice before telling someone that nothing bad can happen to their phone as long as it's locked, this is false information, and could potentially lead to someone being unable to repair a soft-bricked device due to following your advice.
Heisenberg said:
The decision to leave it unlocked is the right decision. The other person replying in this thread is completely wrong when he says you can't brick a phone if you don't unlock it, that's completely and utterly incorrect. Sometimes things happen, unforeseen spontaneous problems happen all the time with smartphones. If this happens to you and your bootloader is locked there's absolutely nothing you can do to fix it. So yes, leave your bootloader unlocked as an insurance policy against the unforeseen.
@fury683, I'd think twice before telling someone that nothing bad can happen to their phone as long as it's locked, this is false information, and could potentially lead to someone being unable to repair a soft-bricked device due to following your advice.
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To be fair, I said should not. I've never bricked a device from normal use.
I offered my opinion, and the reasons why. I've been burned by comments and advice from people plenty of times and try my best to help out where I can. I don't think my post was misleading, and I appreciate your comments on the matter as well.
Heisenberg said:
The decision to leave it unlocked is the right decision. The other person replying in this thread is completely wrong when he says you can't brick a phone if you don't unlock it, that's completely and utterly incorrect. Sometimes things happen, unforeseen spontaneous problems happen all the time with smartphones. If this happens to you and your bootloader is locked there's absolutely nothing you can do to fix it. So yes, leave your bootloader unlocked as an insurance policy against the unforeseen.
@fury683, I'd think twice before telling someone that nothing bad can happen to their phone as long as it's locked, this is false information, and could potentially lead to someone being unable to repair a soft-bricked device due to following your advice.
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Thanks for your advice. So, I can make the conclusion that we should unlock nexus bootloader no matter where we are, when it is and whether we will root or not, right ?
gnange said:
Thanks for your advice. So, I can make the conclusion that we should unlock nexus bootloader no matter where we are, when it is and whether we will root or not, right ?
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The choice is ultimately yours, but my advice is always to have it unlocked, that way you're able to access and use fastboot in the event that something goes wrong.
fury683 said:
To be fair, I said should not. I've never bricked a device from normal use.
I offered my opinion, and the reasons why. I've been burned by comments and advice from people plenty of times and try my best to help out where I can. I don't think my post was misleading, and I appreciate your comments on the matter as well.
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As I am new to android, your reply benefits me a lot. I notice you replied me before dawn while it was afternoon in China, thanks for your kindness but you should pay more attention to getting enough sleep, don't burn yourself out. : )
Heisenberg said:
The choice is ultimately yours, but my advice is always to have it unlocked, that way you're able to access and use fastboot in the event that something goes wrong.
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Actually I used to suppose one has to unlock bootloader only if in China. Now I get it. Thank you !
Heisenberg said:
The choice is ultimately yours, but my advice is always to have it unlocked, that way you're able to access and use fastboot in the event that something goes wrong.
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Yep what Heisenberg said is 100% true. My phone got bricked after the OTA update resulted in an error. I hadn't enabled the OEM Unlock setting, so couldn't unlock the phone. Have to wait for a replacement now

HTC 10 back to stock for RMA

Welp, my power button has decided to do some funky things lately and I decided to RMA it. Just wanted to double check on the steps to bring it back to stock. First, download an official RUU and flash it to the phone. IIRC this will also bring back stock recovery which will replace twrp. Then lock the bootloader and then go back to S-on. I sent my phone to J-case before unlocking was available on Sunshine, so is there anything special that I need to do to lock the bootloader and go S-on? I will be following the steps outline in this guide to help me out https://theunlockr.com/2016/08/18/unroot-htc-10/. With that being said, is there anything special that needs to be done that this guide does not outline for our phones? Also, if my terrible googling skills missed a thread that already has the steps outlined, please link it to me and after I get the phone back to stock I will then delete this thread.
WS-99 said:
Welp, my power button has decided to do some funky things lately and I decided to RMA it. Just wanted to double check on the steps to bring it back to stock. First, download an official RUU and flash it to the phone. IIRC this will also bring back stock recovery which will replace twrp. Then lock the bootloader and then go back to S-on. I sent my phone to J-case before unlocking was available on Sunshine, so is there anything special that I need to do to lock the bootloader and go S-on? I will be following the steps outline in this guide to help me out https://theunlockr.com/2016/08/18/unroot-htc-10/. With that being said, is there anything special that needs to be done that this guide does not outline for our phones? Also, if my terrible googling skills missed a thread that already has the steps outlined, please link it to me and after I get the phone back to stock I will then delete this thread.
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Honestly, if you are just returning it and anticipate a replacement warranty device, as opposed to a repair, just factory reset it and don't worry about it. They're not even going to power it up; they'll bulk erase it and reflash it and nobody will ever know it was S-OFF and/or bootloader unlocked.
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Honestly, if you are just returning it and anticipate a replacement warranty device, as opposed to a repair, just factory reset it and don't worry about it. They're not even going to power it up; they'll bulk erase it and reflash it and nobody will ever know it was S-OFF and/or bootloader unlocked.
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I kinda figured that is what they would end up doing with it. But I also did not want to go through the headache in case they decided to check. Thanks for the advice!
Hgol is probably right but when I was on the phone getting my device set to be replaced they told me that if the phone was physically abused or had software modifications they would charge me a 300$ unrefundable fee so for me I ruu to stock and went back to s-on locked to be safe I would too you never know if your device is gonna be that one that they actually check

Back to Stock with Oreo possible?

Hello my friends.
I bought my U Ultra in December 2017.
Now I decided to flash LeeDroid Oreo on my phone.
It works great.
I backed up in TWRP the parititions "System Image" and "System" in case for going back.
Now my question.
Is it possible to go for going to stock when I recover it all?
Can I lock the bootloader after that?
How to use the "System Image" partition? Can I fully flash my phone to stock with it? With Recovery and so on, because there is no RUU available for me?
My System Version was 2.21.401.1 and my region is Europe/Germany.
Regards
inFiniTyz_Z said:
I backed up in TWRP the parititions "System Image" and "System" in case for going back.
Is it possible to go for going to stock when I recover it all?
How to use the "System Image" partition? Can I fully flash my phone to stock with it? With Recovery and so on, because there is no RUU available for me?
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If you have TWRP backup you simply recover the backup, wipe data and you are back to stock-ish. Naturally due to lack of original recovery you won't be able to receive/flash OTA. For HTC you simply do not exist.
inFiniTyz_Z said:
Can I lock the bootloader after that?
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Kind of. You can make OEM lock but it won't be the factory lock. It will be relock. And if you have a custom ROM at that point the phone may not let you boot up.
QDT said:
If you have TWRP backup you simply recover the backup, wipe data and you are back to stock-ish. Naturally due to lack of original recovery you won't be able to receive/flash OTA. For HTC you simply do not exist.
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In case when I flash the stock recovery too?
inFiniTyz_Z said:
In case when I flash the stock recovery too?
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If you restore whole system then you will get the OTAs. (This is how I upgraded to Oreo in the first place).
Problem is with TWRP/custom recovery not being capable of performing the factory update (people are soft-bricking their phones).
QDT said:
If you restore whole system then you will get the OTAs. (This is how I upgraded to Oreo in the first place).
Problem is with TWRP/custom recovery not being capable of performing the factory update (people are soft-bricking their phones).
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When I flash the RUU for my CID from nougat to my phone, and perform an upgrade to oreo, would it result in a hard brick?
inFiniTyz_Z said:
When I flash the RUU for my CID from nougat to my phone, and perform an upgrade to oreo, would it result in a hard brick?
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There is a topic explaining how to recover first to Nougat and then let you phone receive OTA for Oreo.
I don't know from where you can get RUU for your CID. Keep in mind it has to be the version you have or newer if you are not going to unlock the bootloader and use 3rd party tools to trick force update.
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There is a topic explaining how to recover first to Nougat and then let you phone receive OTA for Oreo.
I don't know from where you can get RUU for your CID. Keep in mind it has to be the version you have or newer if you are not going to unlock the bootloader and use 3rd party tools to trick force update.
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I have the ROM for my CID.
But I would know if it works without hard brick.
I am little bit afraid from it, because I tried this two years ago on my Motorola Moto G2. For one, two, times it worked, then came marshmallow with a new bootloader, so you bricked this phone like ****.
inFiniTyz_Z said:
I have the ROM for my CID.
But I would know if it works without hard brick.
I am little bit afraid from it, because I tried this two years ago on my Motorola Moto G2. For one, two, times it worked, then came marshmallow with a new bootloader, so you bricked this phone like ****.
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I cannot give you the guarantee. It is for you to decide. The topic explains it really good. I did it several times and no sweat at all. Other ways I don't know.
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I cannot give you the guarantee. It is for you to decide. The topic explains it really good. I did it several times and no sweat at all. Other ways I don't know.
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And I can downgrade to nougat and upgrade with OTA to oreo without hard brick? Did you tried that?
inFiniTyz_Z said:
And I can downgrade to nougat and upgrade with OTA to oreo without hard brick? Did you tried that?
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Yes, I did that. I went through the described procedure and restored the phone to pristine Nougat and then let it to update via OTA to Oreo.
If your phone is s-on then there hardly any chance you will hard brick it. Soft bricks can happen, naturally. But then, dependently on the case, you can recover from it by reflash, wipe or making the downgrade again via RUU.
One important key combination you have to keep in mind. By pressing (and holding) power with volume down you will see the buttons flashing. Keeping them pressed for ca. 15 sec (shorter, longer depends) forces the phone to reboot.
Good luck.
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Yes, I did that. I went through the described procedure and restored the phone to pristine Nougat and then let it to update via OTA to Oreo.
If your phone is s-on then there hardly any chance you will hard brick it. Soft bricks can happen, naturally. But then, dependently on the case, you can recover from it by reflash, wipe or making the downgrade again via RUU.
One important key combination you have to keep in mind. By pressing (and holding) power with volume down you will see the buttons flashing. Keeping them pressed for ca. 15 sec (shorter, longer depends) forces the phone to reboot.
Good luck.
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It worked. After my question I did the procedure and upgraded to oreo!
Thank you.
No Brick, but I had to erase the data and cache partition again after the first start, because it stucked at the HTC Logo after booting.
But the funfact is: I wanted to do a hard reset after my first try to boot it up, and the phone did a screenshot with the logo!
inFiniTyz_Z said:
It worked. After my question I did the procedure and upgraded to oreo!
Thank you.
No Brick, but I had to erase the data and cache partition again after the first start, because it stucked at the HTC Logo after booting.
But the funfact is: I wanted to do a hard reset after my first try to boot it up, and the phone did a screenshot with the logo!
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Good. Have fun with the phone. It is quite nice piece of hardware. I like it.
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Good. Have fun with the phone. It is quite nice piece of hardware. I like it.
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Thanks. You too!
And the software status is currently still on modified. Would it change when I lock the bootloader?
inFiniTyz_Z said:
Thanks. You too!
And the software status is currently still on modified. Would it change when I lock the bootloader?
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What software status? If you restore the original recovery there is no additional message during boot. If you lock the bootloader it will report as "relocked".
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What software status? If you restore the original recovery there is no additional message during boot. If you lock the bootloader it will report as "relocked".
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In the bootloader mode you see your software status. And it is still with stock rom and stock recovery on "modified"
inFiniTyz_Z said:
In the bootloader mode you see your software status. And it is still with stock rom and stock recovery on "modified"
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And to my knowledge it will be like that. You have flashed unlocked (from HTC but always) bootloader and this has to be noted. It is not that drastical as KNOX for Samsung, doesn't influence the phone functioning.
inFiniTyz_Z said:
It worked. After my question I did the procedure and upgraded to oreo!
Thank you.
No Brick, but I had to erase the data and cache partition again after the first start, because it stucked at the HTC Logo after booting.
But the funfact is: I wanted to do a hard reset after my first try to boot it up, and the phone did a screenshot with the logo!
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When you say you followed the procedure, which exactly do you mean? Can you please help me by giving me a quick summary of the steps?
I would like to know the procedure as well.
Hi! I've installed a custom ROM, now I would like to go back to the stock ROM, I don't have a nandroid backup, what can I do?

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