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I'm with at&t and just got a t-mobile hd2, I'm waiting to receive the unlock code. Just wondering if at&t is detecting the imei in their system and forcing a data plan on the account.
I don't want to bother with paying for data because I can only get edge connectivity.
I'm using an unlocked tmobile motorola razr right now for backup with data blocked on the line.
No it will not detect it. I am using it right now without any data plan. You can use it with basic internet too.
it will not dtect it since the IMEI is not on the database
Yes and no
the IMEI is ALWAYS transmitted when the phone accesses the network but since ATT does not have a record of it, they do not know what device it is and therefore they do not know what data plan to suggest for it.
I was thinking of getting the medianet plan for $10/mo since I have unl family texting.
but I have access to wi-fi at home and work.
is edge speed unbearably slow? Worth at least $10/mo?
right now all I pay is $10/mo for my line
Yes, EDGE is CONSIDERABLY slower, like, dialup slow. Most of the time, ATT's EDGE speed is 100KBPs or so, which is crazy slow compared to WiFi.
So, do you guys think that AT&T wont detect HD2 unlock as of today. Am getting my phone a few days from now.
Quick question, I was close to purchasing a Xoom for work reasons (going on the 5gb data PAYG plan). Boss decided to give me the Panatech 4g USB radio for use in my laptop and have the company pay for it.
Would I be able to purchase a 3g enabled XOOM and pop the verizon 4g SIM card into it - with the understanding that I would only be able to access 3g speeds?
daganb said:
Quick question, I was close to purchasing a Xoom for work reasons (going on the 5gb data PAYG plan). Boss decided to give me the Panatech 4g USB radio for use in my laptop and have the company pay for it.
Would I be able to purchase a 3g enabled XOOM and pop the verizon 4g SIM card into it - with the understanding that I would only be able to access 3g speeds?
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AFAIK the Sim slot is not active, it has to be sent back in to Moto to get the 4g hardware installed and the sim slot activated. It was suppose to happen not long after release but it has all gone quiet on that front.
Lordao
Verizon 3G is CDMA and does not use SIMs, instead using the Xoom's MEID (AKA "ESN") for identification and authentication to the network.
So as lordao said, the SIM is inactive now (as there's not even a 4G radio in our devices yet). Had you asked this post-4G upgrade, then the answer would have been "Yes" instead and you would have also had 4G speeds, too.
Thanks, that's what I was guessing as well and just wanted to check on confirmation. I would hate to have another expense and a 3rd mobile device with a payment due every month (Tmobile g2x with unlimited data, the usb 4g modem AND now a xoom? no way). I've had my heart set on a android tablet but I don't really want to lock myself into a wifi only device. Would love to have a tablet that I can keep my 4g sim in and swap out to the usb when I need to access the internet on my laptop.
I'm constantly moving from site to site for my job, this is killing my cell phone's battery ( I carry 3 batteries). Hoping to knock the cell phone down to personal data + voice and the xoom for email / vnc / google docs, then busting out the laptop for issues I need a full keyboard and full OS.
I've gotten my job down to the point I can do 90% of it from a tablet (logmein...google docs... etc), was dead set on buying a xoom and paying the cost per month, but having the boss suprise me with a 4g usb threw a monkey wrench in my plan.... not that i'm complaining at all
If you buy a $100 Cradlepoint CTR500 router (make sure it'll work with that 4G stick, though) then you can have LTE now, and if you get the $150(?) PHS300 it has a battery, too.
i second the idea of a cradlepoint phs300 router. Plug your 4g USB, and your good to go. On its internal battery, you get 2hrs, but if you get a car charger for it. Well you can run the router from the cigarette lighter, and if you have to you can unplug it and take the router with you. The phs300 hardly weighs a bit. Get the carry pouch for it and carry your modem in there too.
Updated: It was merely coincidental that when I rooted, I also reached a 5gb limit on my data plan. The first Verizon rep I talked to, probably like most, refused to admit there was any throttling going on and was willing to send me a new SIM card rather than tell me the truth.
However our tech department today did get a Verizon representative to admit that our corporate unlimited data plan actually does throttle users starting as early as 5 gigabytes. The decision of when to throttle is market dependent. Therefore in crappy little congested markets like mine where there is not a lot of good bandwidth to begin with, throttling can come as early as 5 gigabytes. However in bigger cities, throttling is not likely not to occur until higher data usage has been met. Verizon's corporate unlimited plan is unlimited where you get unlimited data, but after a certain point you can be throttled to unusably slow one x speed. Unlike T Mobile, Verizon does not admit readily that they do this and does not put this on their website. I have to give tmobile respect for being more upfront and honest in the first place about their very similar plans.
Everything from the original thread below is answered in the paragraph above.
So here's my conundrum. I recently had to Oden my s5 back to stock because something went wrong when enabling download booster. After re-installing stock with Oden, doing download booster (no issues the second time) and several other tweaks, including getting SHealth and XPosed to play friendly, removing all the other bloat via the script running around this forum and adding buttons to the notification panel, I have noticed my data is really slow (Data plan only, WiFi is fine).
REALLY Slow!
I know it's not Verizon, as I have two Verizon phones (S5 and Razr M) and the Razr works fine - in fact, multiple speed tests show the Razr M getting speeds 500-1000x faster than my S5. My S5 clocks in at or below 0.1 Mb/S. I didn't discover the problem until leaving the house and realizing that I didn't have enough data to stream Songza or Milk or tunein once I wasn't on my home network.
The s5 shows the 4GLTE symbol and does have a data flowing... it's just like looking at Early Era Dial Up when next to my other device on the same network. The phone itself is speedy and shows no signs of issue. Like I said, I didn't know there was a problem until I finally left the house.
I had noticed that the download booster wasn't useful for me as the LTE speeds were always too slow so it just went with WiFi in my testing, so this tells me that the error occurred very shortly after flashing stock with Oden. The Oden image I used was: ALL_VZW_G900VVRU1ANCG_G900VVZW1ANCG_964333_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 I thought this to be the correct one for my phone.
Before the reflashing, my phone was speedy on the verizon network. In fact, I had used it to tether a few times as it was better for streaming the World Cup than Time Warner on ESPN3. FWIW, I am on an unlimited corporate data plan with the S5.
Thoughts, please?
Try switching between Global to LTE/CDMA or vice versa. I noticed that my data speeds tend to change with the settings. Prior to rooting, speed test after speed test in the same location it was quicker with LTE/CDMA than Global.
Since rooting my data rate was significantly slower under LTE/CDMA than Global, switched it back and I felt like the speed test were coming back to normal. Which is odd because I just assumed it only altered with whether or not it looks for GSM signal when roaming.
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Try switching between Global to LTE/CDMA or vice versa. I noticed that my data speeds tend to change with the settings. Prior to rooting, speed test after speed test in the same location it was quicker with LTE/CDMA than Global.
Since rooting my data rate was significantly slower under LTE/CDMA than Global, switched it back and I felt like the speed test were coming back to normal. Which is odd because I just assumed it only altered with whether or not it looks for GSM signal when roaming.
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Sadly I had already tried this. It was on Global to start, I switched, no help, and switched back (as my working phone is also on Global, so I assumed that was the correct default setting on Verizon. Thanks for the idea though.
It's the Sim Card (or account)
Out of curiosity I switched the sim cards between my personal phone (limited GB standard plan) with my work phone (unlimited corporate plan). With my personal card in my work phone, the speed is again blazing. Once I put the correct sim card in, the speed drops to near zero. I did this test twice.
So does that mean Verizon puts a data speed limit on unlimited corporate accounts when they wish, or does that mean something is wrong with the sim card? I didn't think Verizon limited their data speeds on an individual basis on LTE. I also didn't think they limited their corporate data plans, but it would seem as if they do.
Does anyone have any insider knowledge about this? Thanks.
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Out of curiosity I switched the sim cards between my personal phone (limited GB standard plan) with my work phone (unlimited corporate plan). With my personal card in my work phone, the speed is again blazing. Once I put the correct sim card in, the speed drops to near zero. I did this test twice.
So does that mean Verizon puts a data speed limit on unlimited corporate accounts when they wish, or does that mean something is wrong with the sim card? I didn't think Verizon limited their data speeds on an individual basis on LTE. I also didn't think they limited their corporate data plans, but it would seem as if they do.
Does anyone have any insider knowledge about this? Thanks.
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If swapping SIM cards fixed the problem then you probably have a bad sim, or it went bad. You can ask for a new one.
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If swapping SIM cards fixed the problem then you probably have a bad sim, or it went bad. You can ask for a new one.
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Sadly, I got a new SIM and it didn't work either. Swapping SIMs confirms that it is a sim issue, though, as I have one non working SIM that doesn't work in two phones and one working SIM that works in two phones. Sadly, Big Red has now sent me to non-functioning SIMs as far as I can tell.
Hello,
The nougat update was installed on my Sprint S7 edge the other night. Now I can't use the Internet while I'm on a call! I did calling and surfing with no problem before this update. I called sprint and they basically said that you can be on WiFi and call / surf no problem, which is true. But I am often away from WiFi and need to use internet while on call. I tried the different modes such as CDMA, LTE/CDMA, GSM/UMTS, AND Automatic but same problem.
Has anyone experienced this? Is there a setting or something to fix this?
Looks like I may have to go back to AT&T! ?
Thanks in advance
That is a limitation of Sprint, not Nougat. I switched from AT&T to Sprint last April and ran into the same issue immediately. While I plan to switch back to AT&T or Verizon, I've been using the hangouts dialer/google voice to make calls over LTE. This fixes the issue for me for the time being.
-Matt
coolecho said:
Hello,
The nougat update was installed on my Sprint S7 edge the other night. Now I can't use the Internet while I'm on a call! I did calling and surfing with no problem before this update. I called sprint and they basically said that you can be on WiFi and call / surf no problem, which is true. But I am often away from WiFi and need to use internet while on call. I tried the different modes such as CDMA, LTE/CDMA, GSM/UMTS, AND Automatic but same problem.
Has anyone experienced this? Is there a setting or something to fix this?
Looks like I may have to go back to AT&T!
Thanks in advance
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I've never been able to access data over cellular while on a call on my S7 Edge. Nougat or Marshmallow. Worked fine on older phones, but Sprint's Spark network doesn't allow it.
I came from T-Mobile who I truly despise so I decided to give sprint a shot. I've been on sprint for years now on and off and I have NEVER been able to use the internet while on a call. As others stated above, their POS network doesn't allow it. It was the limitations of a CDMA network, but couple years ago, Verizon upgraded their CDMA network and now they can browse and talk at the same time. Sprint is the ONLY network that doesn't allow it that's in the top 4. ATT, TMO, VZW. While sprint was racing to be the first carrier to allow 4G (which they were) other networks were prepping for LTE and setting up their infrastructure to surf blazing speeds and still talk and sprint is stuck in the stone age's. Rant over lol
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I came from T-Mobile who I truly despise so I decided to give sprint a shot. I've been on sprint for years now on and off and I have NEVER been able to use the internet while on a call. As others stated above, their POS network doesn't allow it. It was the limitations of a CDMA network, but couple years ago, Verizon upgraded their CDMA network and now they can browse and talk at the same time. Sprint is the ONLY network that doesn't allow it that's in the top 4. ATT, TMO, VZW. While sprint was racing to be the first carrier to allow 4G (which they were) other networks were prepping for LTE and setting up their infrastructure to surf blazing speeds and still talk and sprint is stuck in the stone age's. Rant over lol
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Sprint actually did allow simultaneous voice and data for a while. It worked fine on my G3 (and still does, actually). But it doesn't work on any of the new phones that support their faster "Spark" network, or whatever they're calling it now.
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Sprint actually did allow simultaneous voice and data for a while. It worked fine on my G3 (and still does, actually). But it doesn't work on any of the new phones that support their faster "Spark" network, or whatever they're calling it now.
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what you said is 100% true but to add to the dialogue, the reason it doesn't work anymore is because manufacturers have reduced cell antennas down to 1
older devices used 2-3 antennas, so it was possible to use 1 antenna for internet on a LTE frequency while the other antenna was in use for voice calls.
VoIP is essentially a data stream so with 1 antenna that's the only workaround.
The last galaxy phone that did simultaneous voice and data (while not on wifi) was th GS3 . it had a radio in it call SVDO (simultaneous voice and data option)
no other galaxy phone since then can do both UNLESS your on wifi.
kennypow3rs said:
I came from T-Mobile who I truly despise so I decided to give sprint a shot. I've been on sprint for years now on and off and I have NEVER been able to use the internet while on a call. As others stated above, their POS network doesn't allow it. It was the limitations of a CDMA network, but couple years ago, Verizon upgraded their CDMA network and now they can browse and talk at the same time. Sprint is the ONLY network that doesn't allow it that's in the top 4. ATT, TMO, VZW. While sprint was racing to be the first carrier to allow 4G (which they were) other networks were prepping for LTE and setting up their infrastructure to surf blazing speeds and still talk and sprint is stuck in the stone age's. Rant over lol
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Regarding Sprint racing to be the first carrier with 4G (Wimax) while the others were prepping for LTE, Sprint wanted to also do LTE like the others but at that time LTE was nowhere near ready & they had to do something with the spectrum they were sitting on at that time or else they would've lost it.
Robalboa said:
The last galaxy phone that did simultaneous voice and data (while not on wifi) was th GS3 . it had a radio in it call SVDO (simultaneous voice and data option)
no other galaxy phone since then can do both UNLESS your on wifi.
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Last phone I remembered being able to do this was the Note 3. Man I miss being able to use simultaneous data & voice.
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Well that sucks. We should have that option it's freaking 2017 lol. It's hard to take them serious. I also keep hearing of a soft bank and TMO partnership they really do want to pair sprint with TMobile to compete against Verizon and ATT. If sprint did merge with TMO they could route calls through another frequency/band and have data sit on the LTE band.
Robalboa said:
The last galaxy phone that did simultaneous voice and data (while not on wifi) was th GS3 . it had a radio in it call SVDO (simultaneous voice and data option)
no other galaxy phone since then can do both UNLESS your on wifi.
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Actually, a work-around that I've tried is using the Google Hangouts dialer. You can surf the web and be on the phone. Kinda sucks they eliminated the simultaneous talk and data.
I can attest that until the latest Nougat update (last week) I was able to be on a phone call while connecting to the internet and webex. I do this a lot due to being stuck in traffic and having to attend conference calls while driving.
My phone is a Galaxy S7 Edge. I also had this ability with my Note 3. Something fishy is going on here.
I'm really upset that this is happening all of a sudden, strangely right after the freaking software update. I want the feature back! Now every forum says that Sprint doesn't support it on these phone. BS! I am proof it did have the ability. They just took it away with stealthy maliciousness. Sprint needs to give us back the ability to use data and voice simultaneously!
I'm using s7 edge too. if anybody still can't use data while on call. try to turn off your power saving mode. don't turn off your power saving mode while you on call. off ur power saving mode before you call or answer someone. i update this reply while on call too.
I think nowaday most updates are all a big BS. just another ploy to take away all the neat features and give the phone companies more controls, limiting user ability, etc.... i.e. to save the phone companies bandwidth and data use..
My old samsung S4 can do everything after i completely rooted it. from hotspot to simult data and voice, also sim unlock... all done by me just reading xda
I want to upgrade to something newer with removable battery and microsd card in the form of a LG G5. and it's been a real PIA. first phone i got it has the latest firmwarez preventing any enabling of tethering or DIY sim unlock... Had to return it.... 2nd phone has earlier firmware so i can enable tethering. but has no way to use data and voice at same time.
My T-Mobile 6T has been great so far, but when I used the hotspot earlier today I was disappointed by the wireless tethering speeds. I popped the SIM card back into my old phone (unlocked Mate 9) and, although wireless speeds were slower overall, the tethering was much faster. I attempted to edit the APN settings, but everything was grayed out. I was able to add my own APN, but when attempting to enter 'APN type' received a message saying "Carrier does not allow adding APNs of type dun." Does anyone have any advice on how to fix this? Is T-Mobile trying to get me to pay more for 4G tethering by somehow slowing my hotspot to below 3G speeds? Would the international ROM be able to circumvent this?
Thanks
if you're paying for 4G tethering, then call T mobile and ask for help
If you're trying to steal it without paying for it, thats a different story
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if you're paying for 4G tethering, then call T mobile and ask for help
If you're trying to steal it without paying for it, thats a different story
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Not trying to steal 4G, just wondering why the 6T's hotspot is slow much slower than my old phone when the the phone itself is so much more capable. My Mate 9 gets closer to full 3G speeds (500Kbps) when tethering.
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The only stealing that would be going on is the carrier trying to get him to pay for the same data twice.