Esssential going dark about upcoming items? - Essential Phone Questions & Answers

Has Essential stopped letting us know when or if the other demo'd items will ship? I have asked support a couple of times about using my F&F rebate to get either a Home or docking station and they don't have any solid information. Could it be that the items are vaporware? Just some candy to make us think that there is more to Essential than a nice one off phone?

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[Q] How to (back)order an Adam?

Tablets are appearing left, right, and center these days and I think I have decided that I would like to support the innovative little guy. However, I have sent several emails over the course of the last month inquiring how someone could place an order.
I am in the US (if that matters) and was wondering if anyone had successfully ordered or put their names on a waiting list recently (and if so how?), and how long it takes from start to stop to get your adam.
Thanks!
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I've been wondering the same thing. Every time I talk myself into grabbing one I can't seem to locate any way of pre-ordering.
Aside from the few that are marked up/snarked up on *bay... I too would rather support the little guy. Though I fear that once I get around to talking myself into picking up a tablet again, an iPad2 will head my way.
I believe Notion Ink has finished taking orders for their 2nd pre-order.
http://store.notionink.com/subscribe.php
This link gets you on their list of people who have interest in purchasing one. If they have any left to sell they will contact you.
The first batch of orders in Dec were across the map as far as time from ordering to delivery (Some got theres in Jan, others not till recently)
I don't believe anyone in this second batch has gotten delivery yet. I ordered mine on Feb 9th and the estimated shipping date is March 3rd-10th (but who knows if that will hold true).
There is a reason why they are calling these "Pre-Orders", I think it is taking them some time to produce them which is certainly a risk us consumers are taking. But have faith if you think this device suits you the best.
iPad 2 really doesn't look like it offers much more then the iPad 1
Yes it is thinner/lighter, yes it has two cameras, and yes it now has a dual core processor....but the main reason I gravitate towards the Adam is the fact is offers most of that along with more consumer friendly inputs/outputs, a physical design that will be easier to hold, and of course Honeycomb which offers so much more for me over the Apple OS 4.3
iPad 2
I agree the only thing I like about the iPad 2 is the cover, which if I am honest really is brilliant in its simplicity, utility, and awesomeness. Other than that...
Still, I am not sure which device best fits my needs (I just know I want to support small innovators) My problem is that I am a grad student who is trying to go paperless. I try and read my articles, grade my papers and read my news on a monitor, and it might be nice to have something that I could hold rather than put on my lap.
Also pretty sure that 7 inches is just too small (maybe 10 is too big) who knows...I wish there were more brick and mortar stores where I could try them out.
The Xoom is available to try out at best buy. So you could at least get an idea of what 10inch's is like as well as Honeycomb vs. the Apple OS.
The LG Optimus Pad and supposedly a new Galaxy Tab are coming out with 8.9inch screens.
If you are focusing on the Adam for its Pixel Qi screen for reading I would research more reviews on how it does indoors vs. outdoors. I opted to order the LCD version only since I don't plan on using it as an e-reader or for outdoor purposes. I mainly want it to replace my personal laptop that i lug around whenever I travel just to check email/surf the web/ and watch movies.
I ordered mine feb 5 and received it yesterday if it helps any.
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I ordered mine feb 5 and received it yesterday if it helps any.
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I consider that good news for 9th orders. Means that the promised 3rd March shipping date is still realistic.
Edit: Actually, bad news. Means I'll have to start checking the pre-order site multiple times a day now out of sheer compulsive curiousity.
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My Feb 9th order has shipped
I realize that Notion is a small company, but how can they think they will stay in business when people can't figure out how to order or have to wait a ton?
I like the idea of the Adam, but not the idea of waiting to pre-order then waiting a month or more for my unit.
So is it worth the wait?
Depends on what your needs/wants are in a tablet.
I came to the decision of handing my money over to Notion Ink instead of any other company for the following reasons:
- 2 x Full USB 2.0 Ports
- Tegra 2
- 6 Physical Buttons (4 on the face, Back button and Power button on the side)
- Full HDMI Out
- Ergonomical Design
- Promise of Honeycomb
- $425 price tag
I too am wondering if this tablet is worth the wait. I ordered mine Feb 14 and I am tired of waiting. My original estimated ship date was now pushed back to 3/3-3/10. This is insane. I have no idea how these guys intend to run a successful company doing business like this. This is absolutely unacceptable. If this estimated ship date is pushed back one more time I am going to cancel my order. And if they give me any sh*t going that route I'll simply refute the charges and let my AMEX deal with this B.S.
Of course, I hope I don't have to go that route and I hope I will receive an email shortly telling me my Adam has shipped. I really want this device but refuse to wait around like a scorned lover begging for attention. I'm paying good money. It's not like I won this thing in a contest and am waiting on them to ship one once they have extras. This is INSANE!!!
I bought the Adam because of the reasons I posted above. No other company is putting a tablet out that offers the same functionality.
With that said....
There is a BIG reason why they are calling this a "PRE-ORDER". They are a small company, they did not have the money and means to start mass producing these. But from what we read from Rohan they are growing quickly and starting to strategically plan for a larger roll out that also includes better support.
Adam is their first product, they are dedicating resources towards designing the next one. This kind of innovation is a beautiful thing. I don't understand how people "expect" this ordering experience to be similar to that of purchasing an Apple or Motorola product.
What are the price-points of the various options?
My friend and I both just recently signed up for pre-orders but who knows when the next batch will roll out....just trying to plan ahead!
Thanks.
Of course I wouldn't expect it to be like buying an Apple or Moto product. The surprising part is their website is a little too filled with mystery. The tech audience in general is not a patient bunch and signing up for unknown pre order dates and long waits wont fly with everyone. For their own sake I hope they can step up production a bit. I do believe their pricing is very good from what I could find but having to google them vs being front and center on their site is kinda lame.
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anyone know when is this tablet going to be release so i can order it and not have to wait for an unknown delivery date? kinda messed up how they are doing this with the preorders. i cant find a release date anywhere...
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I believe Notion Ink has finished taking orders for their 2nd pre-order.
http://store.notionink.com/subscribe.php
This link gets you on their list of people who have interest in purchasing one. If they have any left to sell they will contact you.
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Thank you I been looking all over for this

1st and only one to buy a tab 10.1 at my local best buy

i walked it at 5:00 pm they had about 30 galaxy tabs of all flavors. I was the only one who ad bought one in two days. They were sold out of all ipads except 64gb Verizon models.
Who cares, to each their own. I drove all the way to Buffalo just to pick one up from Toronto. (First to get it in the Best Buy) haha.
Ipad will always sell more than the galaxy tab 10.1
Apple has perfect marketing.
So, you checked for 2 days or a BB sales man told you so?
When I read the topics here some BB's sales men don't even know they are selling Tabs
If anything the bee's are just really started making honeycomb.
A first proper start of Honeycomb tablet sales have started with the Asus Transformer. It's really picking up here in the Netherlands, most popular tablet on a big dutch site, where the Tab 10.1 has not been lauched.
I had to wander around a bit before finding the display (was set off on the other side of the Apple section, away from the other tablets/computers). Seems they were pretty popular though. They were out of both 32gb models and out of the white 16gb. Guy said I snagged the last Metallic 16gb (But of course whether he was just saying that is questionable). Down in Destin, FL so at least here in the white sands they are pretty popular.
there was a cage full of tabs and some sitting on the shelf. They had 30 tabs delivered a day late I counted 30. There were two guys arguing about purchasing a returned ipad2.
We have five Best Buys here in Jacksonville - all of them have the 10.1 in stock.. 32 and 16gb both colors.
iPad is definately more popular in my city.
Frankly like Sighx says, who cares. I'd rather question: send some to Europe asap
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Cool story, bro.
This isn't a whine - I'm patiently waiting to get one when they are in stock - but I'm just a bit amazed at how the situation is unfolding with BB.
No store anywhere in Silicon Valley (or in northern California for that matter) has ever received any 32GB versions (they all received a small batch of only one of the 2 16GB colors - the color varies by store), and most of them gave all of their initial stock of those 16GB versions to people who pre-ordered them (but there are a scant few still in stores). And now they are fielding questions right and left about not having any stock. I imagine they'll put up a recorded message before the phone menu any day now just like they do for the iPad availability. This isn't a case of a huge sellout on day one, they are all complaining that they only originally received a handful and they were only of one of the 2 16GB versions. And the SF store has some egg on its face (almost literally) with the huge window on the front of the store sporting an enormous banner that implies that "this is the place to get your Samsung Galaxy Tab!" (or maybe not)... ;-)
And you could walk into any Microcenter or Frys in the area and get the flavor you wanted for at least 2 days (and some within 40 miles still have stock in most of the models even today) and they didn't need a big banner to advertise their stock (or lack thereof). Wasn't BB the launch partner with the special exclusive one week deal for NY - why is that the only store I can't get the right model in?
Between the huge number of (unfilled) preorders here and the number of phone calls they are getting currently and the fact that this is one of the seats of the computer industry in the country, you'd have thought they'd send at least one single 32GB version to some store here somewhere? But, no.
Wow, talk about missing the boat. Who at BB corporate managed to mess up the distribution this badly? At least I believe that the majority of tablet users are clear enough on what they want that they'll wait for it and the bad distribution choices won't really cost them a huge opportunity in the end, but if they didn't have enough to go around and they sent them mainly to places that don't know how to market them rather than one of the few places you know they'd walk off the shelves without any help from the sales staff (or the now tragically ironic huge banners) - that wasn't a complicated decision, no?
I'm waiting it out. I have a Xoom in the meantime whose days are numbered, but I'm waiting to take advantage of some rewardzone certificates at BB when someone eventually wakes up and sends some 32GB versions to the NoCal stores. Giggling a little, but with a frown.
Sales will be lukewarm at best. You need price point and ad money to sell things. Verizon saved android from a slow death in the phone market with its Droid campaign. Unless someone pumps serious money into tablet ads they'll continue to flounder. Outside of BB posters Noone has a clue what a galaxy tab is nor will they unless Samsung pushes hard.
Superior products don't equal better sales we all know that.
I had one on pre-order with BB but it was back ordered. I did a search and my local store had the 32g in stock. I picked it up and everything is working great. All I would like to see is more streaming capability
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Sales will be lukewarm at best. You need price point and ad money to sell things. Verizon saved android from a slow death in the phone market with its Droid campaign. Unless someone pumps serious money into tablet ads they'll continue to flounder. Outside of BB posters Noone has a clue what a galaxy tab is nor will they unless Samsung pushes hard.
Superior products don't equal better sales we all know that.
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Well, in my Best Buy they are mostly morons, with a few cretins and idiots thrown in for good measure! I went in to buy a 10.1 Tab (already own the 7) and asked if they had any - one BB salesdrone said maybe but none on display. I said "do you know this is Father's Day and your website says their in stock- the drone just shrugged - I asked another if they expected someone to lay down $600 site unseen - same reaction.
Is it any wonder BB sales were down 16% last quarter?
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Well, in my Best Buy they are mostly morons, with a few cretins and idiots thrown in for good measure! I went in to buy a 10.1 Tab (already own the 7) and asked if they had any - one BB salesdrone said maybe but none on display. I said "do you know this is Father's Day and your website says their in stock- the drone just shrugged - I asked another if they expected someone to lay down $600 site unseen - same reaction.
Is it any wonder BB sales were down 16% last quarter?
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That, and they charge $20 for one SATA cable. No sympathy from me when they die.
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i walked it at 5:00 pm they had about 30 galaxy tabs of all flavors. I was the only one who ad bought one in two days. They were sold out of all ipads except 64gb Verizon models.
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It all depends where you located I guess.
Here in NYC it's been selling like cupcakes according to the sales guys and personal observation. When I went to pick mine up a couple asked me if it was an ipad2, after seeing it wasn't they were next in line to get it.
After I discovered a flaw with the screen and went to exchange it in a Brooklyn's best buy there were three other interested costumers.
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Mabye it has something to do with this tablet having more lag than a hippo springing in molasses. I can't type on this thing because it lags so hard. I am going to hold on to it because I hate ios but it really sucks.
Best buy showed stock but turned out they were sold out. They were willing to pricematch to match no tax on Amazon if I would preorder through them
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Best buy showed stock but turned out they were sold out. They were willing to pricematch to match no tax on Amazon if I would preorder through them
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Went to a couple of BB in NY.
One of them (Houston in the Village/ Soho) I asked about the tab and they said ' we have it but we didn't put it out'. I asked why, the guy had no clue.
They have zero accessories.
Went to the one on 6th ave and 23rd st (very big store). First BB employee said 'Yes we have it don't move I will be right back'. She never came back.
Second one said "accessories are there" pointing to the Xoom. I told her that's the Xoom, she said well that's all its left.
To make a long story short, I found the Tab and the accessories myself.
This is just to tell you that if BB employees tell you something it's usually 99% INACCURATE. Ask at least 5 different employees, or even better, do your own research in the store and you will find what you are looking for.
Fact is the average Joe wanting a tablet will just go ipad. It is easy well made tons of apps. Samsung is offering a nice alternative but without any real differentiation. No built-in expansion. No keyboard dock liked the Asus. Price point is no better than the ipad. Honeycomb is not mature enough yet to steal potential ipad buyers so one needs some extra hardware goodies line USB port or dock or HDMI and importantly better price point.
Sell Samsung at 449 and then people start to consider it. Make it 399-429$ and many will pass on the ipad.
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Went to a couple of BB in NY.
One of them (Houston in the Village/ Soho) I asked about the tab and they said ' we have it but we didn't put it out'. I asked why, the guy had no clue.
They have zero accessories.
Went to the one on 6th ave and 23rd st (very big store). First BB employee said 'Yes we have it don't move I will be right back'. She never came back.
Second one said "accessories are there" pointing to the Xoom. I told her that's the Xoom, she said well that's all its left.
To make a long story short, I found the Tab and the accessories myself.
This is just to tell you that if BB employees tell you something it's usually 99% INACCURATE. Ask at least 5 different employees, or even better, do your own research in the store and you will find what you are looking for.
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You are very right. Salesmen told me it was instock. Then not, sold me hard on getting a pre-order. Promised to match price to amazon, 500 otd. Another girl rings up preorder, rings at full price. Leave store with promise it will be corrected upon pickup. Pulling up at the house, receive e-mail saying Tab ready to pick up.
Fail. Then had to wait on hold for 30 minutes to verify this was correct before I head back over.

How to get In Store Pick up at Best Buy when it's unavailable

I was able to buy it from Bestbuy even though they said it's not in stock.
How?
There was a web site called bestbuy for business.com
In there, it says "available for store pick up on 06/16/11.
I made payment in that website and picked it up from local best buy.
I was able to cancel pre-order because it wasn't even shipped out yet.
Hope this helps whoever is struggling over pre-order shipment getting delayed.
Good Idea, but no success in NY. Only the 16GB version here. No gray or white 32GB anywhere.
Don't really understand the point of this. I waited months for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Watched the XOOM, Acer Iconia, Transformer and Blackberry Playbook all come to market. Now the release date has come and gone, and I live in one of the biggest cities in the country (hell, they did the offical release here) and I still can't walk down to the store and buy the damn thing.
If this technique is designed to create demand I am fed up with the whole thing. Don't like buying tech products online. Returns are a pain. Always open the box dreading the dead pixel or other calamity.
Bought my XOOM primarily because I could just walk across the street to staples and have it in five minutes - with the added security of being able to return it just as quick if there is a problem.
Kind of resent being made to jump through all these hoops just for the privelge of buying some companies product.
Edit: I really think they should have made some effort to make the 32GB available in stores, especially considering Samsung's choice to eliminate the SD card slot. It makes the extra storage rather important for many buyers.
Sorry for the rant. Thanks again for the good suggestion, it was worth a try and I'll keep trying both websites in the future.

Any info on new Sprint Rewards Program?

http://www.androidcentral.com/leake...ges-new-rewards-program-and-gives-htc-holiday
Story has been out a couple days, but I didn't see any related threads on the first 4 pages. The new rewards program mentions getting a new handset every 6 months at the 2 year price but lacks specific details. Anyone out there have any additional (or inside) info on what qualifies someone for this program and the expected start date? I am debating buy an epic touch off contract, but if this program is going into effect soon, I may hold off.
I'm thinking this is for 3rd party employees / Sprint employees only.
Reason. If you change phones every 6 months you can offer better insight to the customer since you have used that phone.
Good point, I missed that. Well forget that idea.

UK Microsoft Lumia 950/950XL

Hi Guys,
Setting up dedicated UK thread for Lumia 950/950XL.
Mines on pre order. Just wanted to let you guys know about Amazon price being reduced from £529.99 (Price on UK Microsoft Store) to £469.99 for the 950XL and £449.99 (Price on UK Microsoft Store) to £419.99 for Lumia 950.
Shipping on UK Microsoft Store is set for 03/12 but Amazon are set to ship for 12/12. Amazon prices are the same as CarphoneWarehouse who have also reduced their prices compared to UK Microsoft Store.
There is an offer for UK purchases of the Lumia 950XL only - free display dock on purchases made from authorised sellers. Amazon and CarphoneWarehouse are included in the authorised sellers list. There is a catch though - it is only valid for purchases made between 20/11 and 31/01 whilst stocks last.
To get the free display dock, you need to have purchased within the dates above and on receipt of your phone, open the Lumia app that is on the phone as a pre installed app and sign in or create an account. The voucher code will be emailed to the registered email address where you will then be able to go to the UK Microsoft Store online and purchases the display dock. Enter the code at checkout and the price will adjust.
This forum is for pre-order discussion, discussion of any delays, discussion when the phones have been dispatched and received and discussion and general support throughout.
Please be nice to each other and don't attack anyone for something they have posted. We're all entitled to our own opinions.
Updates that are important will be added to this first post for ease of access.
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I'd go for Carphone rather than Amazon, since their repairs/returns are easier to access.
Microsoft are reducing their price by end of this week I've been told by an insider.
I've pre-ordered from cpw but on the 19th, does that mean i wont get dock station?
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Microsoft are reducing their price by end of this week I've been told by an insider.
I've pre-ordered from cpw but on the 19th, does that mean i wont get dock station?
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I believe it doesn't matter where you get the device from as long as you get it in the initial period you get the free dock, going to ask in cpw again to confirm though
http://www.windowscentral.com/how-redeem-your-free-display-dock-lumia-950-xl
You will actually qualify for the dock. Short version - I spoke to MS support and they assured me this will be valid for any order before the end date and you can ignore the "start date" of the promotion.
Long version: The support representative I spoke to basically said that the Nov 20 date was only the initial date that they thought the first units might ship through partners. The "order date" will infact be counted as the shipping date since it's only a pre-order at this point and the orders haven't actually been completed.
If anyone is interested in buying direct from Microsoft they will price match the official retailers. Refund will be issued once deceive delivered. You also get 30 days return policy and support for free.
also mobilephonesdirect have it in stock for next day delivery.
Ordered mine off amazon this morning, due for delivery tomorrow. Cant wait!
Got mine from my supplier last week. The 950XL. Loving it so far.(apart from BT issues)
Also got my order in for the free Continuum Dock.
Hey guys,
Just got mine this evening. It is an amazing device. One small issue. When I go into the app store, I want to sign in, so I can start downloading a few apps. When I click on the menu button at the top left and then click sign in at the bottom of the menu, it comes up and says choose account. Problem is, it doesnt list any accounts I can choose. How do I get around this?
Edit never mind, did a wipe and everything is now 100% This is soo much better than android!
Stephen said:
Hey guys,
Just got mine this evening. It is an amazing device. One small issue. When I go into the app store, I want to sign in, so I can start downloading a few apps. When I click on the menu button at the top left and then click sign in at the bottom of the menu, it comes up and says choose account. Problem is, it doesnt list any accounts I can choose. How do I get around this?
Edit never mind, did a wipe and everything is now 100% This is soo much better than android!
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Welcome to the Dark Side mate...!
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Welcome to the Dark Side mate...!
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Now I have had a day or so to play around with it, it is wicked cool! would be hard pushed to go back to android. Cant wait for full Cortana integration on my Windows 10 desktop. Will be very cool to be able to send text messages from my PC.
@LenAsh BTW curious mate, what phone are you actually running!
BTW curious mate, what phone are you actually running!
@Stephen
I use a Lumia 930 running WX 10586.29 Preview Build - lovely device, S/W a bit flakey. My "dirt" phone is a Blu Win HD LTE - £59 from Amazon UK and running W8.1 UP2 - know what - it's amazing for the money! Really good.
My Android is an LG G2 32 Gb (the EU version with more memory than the UK version) and it has been a really great phone for over 2 years now. It looks and performs like new. Don't use it much nowadays.... but still pleases me when I do.
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Now I have had a day or so to play around with it, it is wicked cool! would be hard pushed to go back to android. Cant wait for full Cortana integration on my Windows 10 desktop. Will be very cool to be able to send text messages from my PC.
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For info, available in the EU now...
For both phones, MS have pushed out a fairly significant OTA FIRMWARE update - don't get those often...
Details here.... Windows Central
Just got mine yesterday, coming from a G Note 3 the improvements are immense and some Apps are actually better than their Android equivalent (6tag, Outlook mail, Baconit to name a few). I'm converted back to MS, my last MS phone was the legendary HTC HD2, hopefully we can mod the 950 XL as much as we could the HD2.
Out of over 100 Apps the only real App I'm missing is my Sonos App , all my other smart home app's are just as good, Plex, Tado, Roku, Xbox. Can anyone advise a good Sonos App? currently using 'Smart Player'.
The camera is amazing for a smartphone, so is the screen quality and I really like the 'Hello' unlock just for the speed and handiness of it.
The only 'problem' I have with the device is as a IT Administrator who deals primarily with MS Networks, I'm surprised there's not many Apps compared to Android. I miss the likes of fing, JuiceSSH, Network Scanner, OpenConnect (though standard VPN does work), Spoofer, ADManager, and even some MS ones.... Thankfully the situation looks to be getting better as i've heard some Apps are in development or will be ported over. If that's too much then all we ask for is a PowerShell App MS!
I like 950xl. Anyone esle want to sell it?
Phonos is a fairly good Sonos app. Not as good as the official android one but probably the best you'll find at the moment.
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