Hi, is there any head unit with px5 and 2gb ram (I understand that it is current most powerful option in Chinese HUs) with matte screen and physical know for volume and other buttons?
Also it would be great if it ships from EU.
Or at least with truly black screen with some ag coating. All I saw for sale, even name brand HUs from Kenwood are this silver/gray super reflective ****.
Also does Bluetooth internet tethering from phone work on px5 mtcd/e units?
evlo said:
Hi, is there any head unit with px5 and 2gb ram (I understand that it is current most powerful option in Chinese HUs) with matte screen and physical know for volume and other buttons?
Also it would be great if it ships from EU.
Or at least with truly black screen with some ag coating. All I saw for sale, even name brand HUs from Kenwood are this silver/gray super reflective ****.
Also does Bluetooth internet tethering from phone work on px5 mtcd/e units?
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px5 is a weakling. Its a bunch of A53's.
The ARM way of doing things is to couple a few weaker cores (they call them "little") with a few stronger cores (they call them "BIG").
The little cores are used when the processing demands are low, because typically they will use less power than the big cores (A57, A72, A73).
What the px5 has, is a bunch of little cores, without any BIG ones.
It doesn't matter if it has 8 of them, they're still really weak and slow.
The stronger chip available for car radios is the Intel Sofia. Don't get too crazy about core counts, frequency, or "benchmarks". None of those metrics help you in calculating the relative performance when you are comparing dissimiliar CPU architectures.
MTC is also responsible for some particularly poor designs. Try to find something from SYU instead. They are a lot less dependent on crappy firmware running on the external MCU chip. Both do have an MCU, but the SYU doesn't use it for nearly as much.
Don't really care about CPU as much for the screen, but would prefer latest arm platform then depreciated, even if more powerful intel one.
If there are intel with matte screen and no px5 with it then sure.
So anything at least semi glossy, like some hi end laptops are these days? Or at worst something with truly black screen? (sometimes it is called fully laminated)
HU I have has very glossy screen glass, but the only case I suffer from this is when making photos of whats on screen - have to choose position carefully to avoid self-reflection. All other usage scenarios are not affected by that at all.
And why not putting on a matte protector? I have a Peugeout 308 with an integrated multimedia screen, and I aready fitted a matte screen protector.
I wanted to install a protector no matter what, to avoid permanent scratches that could be caused with rings, keys or whatever you could have in hand in any moment.
I now ordered a Joying HU and will install a screen protector ASAP.
There is video on Youtube featuring Joying's screen glass hardness - looks like it is of some Gorilla type, quite impressive and nothing to worry about. What really bothers me is greasy stains from my even greasy fingers, but in this case soft cloth helps, not any screen protector which I firmly believe is rather useless.
ptolomeo said:
And why not putting on a matte protector? I have a Peugeout 308 with an integrated multimedia screen, and I aready fitted a matte screen protector.
I wanted to install a protector no matter what, to avoid permanent scratches that could be caused with rings, keys or whatever you could have in hand in any moment.
I now ordered a Joying HU and will install a screen protector ASAP.
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My experience with matte protectors is just bad, it is not same, not even close to matter layer fused with polarizer on matte displays.
luciusfox said:
px5 is a weakling. Its a bunch of A53's.
The ARM way of doing things is to couple a few weaker cores (they call them "little") with a few stronger cores (they call them "BIG").
The little cores are used when the processing demands are low, because typically they will use less power than the big cores (A57, A72, A73).
What the px5 has, is a bunch of little cores, without any BIG ones.
It doesn't matter if it has 8 of them, they're still really weak and slow.
The stronger chip available for car radios is the Intel Sofia. Don't get too crazy about core counts, frequency, or "benchmarks". None of those metrics help you in calculating the relative performance when you are comparing dissimiliar CPU architectures.
MTC is also responsible for some particularly poor designs. Try to find something from SYU instead. They are a lot less dependent on crappy firmware running on the external MCU chip. Both do have an MCU, but the SYU doesn't use it for nearly as much.
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Any examples of SYU/Sofia units you recommend?
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I was l roaming around ebay looking for a good price on head unit. I found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321851333250?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Anyone have any experience with this company? This head unit?
It's Android 4.4.4 and doesn't look bad. It's also extremely cheap. Which is what really makes me wonder.
Looks like a low end dual core, low resolution 480 screen heufei unit.
A quad core(much snappier), high res 1024×600 screen easier to read, similar unit runs about $250 right now.
But it's good probably for the price if that is your absolute most crireria. If that meets you needs then go for it.
I do like the button layout on that unit though. It reminds me of the carjoying.com unit I have. I am not a fan of the units with lots of buttons that waste lots of screen space nor the ones that have no physical knobs or buttons and are all touch.
nixfu said:
Looks like a low end dual core, low resolution 480 screen heufei unit.
A quad core(much snappier), high res 1024×600 screen easier to read, similar unit runs about $250 right now.
But it's good probably for the price if that is your absolute most crireria. If that meets you needs then go for it.
I do like the button layout on that unit though. It reminds me of the carjoying.com unit I have. I am not a fan of the units with lots of buttons that waste lots of screen space nor the ones that have no physical knobs or buttons and are all touch.
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Thanks.
Money isn't the most important criteria but convincing my wife to spend a few hundred on a radio is practically impossible. :/
I wouldn't mind getting the higher res and faster chip that's for sure. Something to think about anyways.
I am looking at this unit, but the price seems prety steep to what other people are getting their units at: http://android-caraudio.com/en/2251-qkgac-7028hd-multimedia-android-444-quad-core-for-audi-a4.html
Do you guys think its worth the extra cost? It does include DHL shipping though...
So I'm looking to upgrade from a Pumpkin Head Unit RK3066 that I've had for a couple years now running Malysk rom but performance seems to be getting worse as time goes by. Problem is that I'm not sure what current unit to buy. I want the best specs available right now and I need to be able to root. I have a 2015 Toyota Camry. Would be great to find an HU that is a direct fit for my car but any universal unit would be fine also.
I found this on Amazon for $300 ... Joying JY-UL135N2 https://www.amazon.com/JOYING-Android-Stereo-Navigation-Bluetooth/dp/B01M670UWI
Can anyone recommend any other Android HU's that they are liking and post links to where they bought them?
mad212 said:
So I'm looking to upgrade from a Pumpkin Head Unit RK3066 that I've had for a couple years now running Malysk rom but performance seems to be getting worse as time goes by. Problem is that I'm not sure what current unit to buy. I want the best specs available right now and I need to be able to root. I have a 2015 Toyota Camry. Would be great to find an HU that is a direct fit for my car but any universal unit would be fine also.
I found this on Amazon for $300 ... Joying JY-UL135N2 https://www.amazon.com/JOYING-Android-Stereo-Navigation-Bluetooth/dp/B01M670UWI
Can anyone recommend any other Android HU's that they are liking and post links to where they bought them?
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I have the jy-ul135n2 and I'm quite happy with it, and there seems to be a fairly large user base so little tweaks here and there should be more common than other units. The only thing I don't like about it hardware wise is the recessed screen. So, if you don't absolutely have to have the physical buttons around the screen I'd get the version with touch sensitive buttons that are flush with the screen.
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I have the jy-ul135n2 and I'm quite happy with it, and there seems to be a fairly large user base so little tweaks here and there should be more common than other units. The only thing I don't like about it hardware wise is the recessed screen. So, if you don't absolutely have to have the physical buttons around the screen I'd get the version with touch sensitive buttons that are flush with the screen.
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Is this the one without the recessed screen? This one looks like it only has one sdcard slot.
https://www.amazon.com/JOYING-Andro...id=1487015367&sr=1-2&keywords=android+2gb+car
I had MTCD RK3188 1GB RAM based head unit for a while now, but very disappointed in how slow and buggy the unit was. And Sofia based 2GB ram units came out pretty much a month after I bought this one.
Now, it has been a while since sofia units came out, how is it compared to RK3188 units?
Is it noticeably faster? Has firmware got more stable?
I'm considering Joying JY-UM135N2D, cause I want physical buttons and volume knob.
If it hasn't got much better, I might just choose to go for android auto supported head units (more expensive and less capable, but less headache. )
I have the one just like that, but without the new digital amplifier. I have honestly been impressed. I don't have any experience with the older models. For what I use it for Sygic, YouTube, Pandora, VLC, PlayerPro, and Torque it works flawlessly. I have had it reboot randomly twice in the 6 months I have had it. Otherwise been a pain free experience for me.
It is definitely "much better" than that, but still very poor. You need to add CPU cooling, and the software is pretty badly butchered.
I think they are definitely much better. Runs WAY faster, and they have cool features like Dormancy, so it almost never has a delay.
here are some videos I made when I first got my 2GB of RAM intel unit:
https://youtu.be/KzGFDwSFj24
https://youtu.be/IUP4WGYHIaQ
Be warned, there is annoying watermark, and they do run hot, that unit died on me. However Joying sent out a replacement and they claim to have addressed the issue and it does appear to run cooler.
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I think they are definitely much better. Runs WAY faster, and they have cool features like Dormancy, so it almost never has a delay.
here are some videos I made when I first got my 2GB of RAM intel unit:
https://youtu.be/KzGFDwSFj24
https://youtu.be/IUP4WGYHIaQ
Be warned, there is annoying watermark, and they do run hot, that unit died on me. However Joying sent out a replacement and they claim to have addressed the issue and it does appear to run cooler.
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"cooler" means that it will only go 10 degrees over the CPU's maximum rating, instead of 20 degrees.
Ordered on eBay few days ago and getting it from Hong Kong via DHL on Tuesday. That's pretty fast for free shipping.
I hope the unit is stable enough for me to make a good use of it. Putting it on 2005 F150 I just purchased.
For the over heating issue, is adding a fan enough? or does it need replacing heat sink?
It would be nice if they used a heat pipe and connect it to external heatsink, but guess I'm asking too much for Chinese unit.
It does look run much smoother than what I had before.
i bought a heat sink, but haven't got it installed yet
lambition said:
Ordered on eBay few days ago and getting it from Hong Kong via DHL on Tuesday. That's pretty fast for free shipping.
I hope the unit is stable enough for me to make a good use of it. Putting it on 2005 F150 I just purchased.
For the over heating issue, is adding a fan enough? or does it need replacing heat sink?
It would be nice if they used a heat pipe and connect it to external heatsink, but guess I'm asking too much for Chinese unit.
It does look run much smoother than what I had before.
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Don't try to replace the existing heat sink. The components it is in contact with are at multiple different levels, which makes it complicated to create a surface that will fit properly. Instead, get some good thermal epoxy (I.e., arctic silver epoxy), sand both surfaces to be bonded to remove oxides and make the glue adhere better, apply the epoxy to the heat sink, and stick together.
You can fit a heat sink that measures 100x40. Check Amazon for Aluminum heat sinks with bases that size. I used a 100x40x20 (20 mm tall). You will also need a small 5v fan that can be fit to the heat sink, like a Noctua A4-20 5V, which is a 40mm fan that draws 100 mA. You can wire it into one of the USB wires, which are exposed inside the unit's case. The USB power is terminated when the unit goes to sleep (a couple of minutes after ACC power is lost). And finally, leave the cover off the radio's case when you install it in your car. It needs fresh cool air for the fan to be of any use.
Just received my new joying unit.
Powered in up to just feel the unit. It boots much faster and smoother then my old unit.
Volume knob's chrome ring is missing bit of chrome, other than that, looks good. As for the heatsink, I will probably just attach one of the cpu heatsinks I have laying around. Probably will add one of the 12V computer fans I have as well.
I might also try find someway to attach a heat sink to both the case and the processor. I don't get why joying did not put vents in the case. There really aren't any vent other than mounting holes and some on top.
Hello.
is there any suggestion for a 1-din head unit, with ajustable screen, similar to the Joying ones, like this?
I'm having a hard time with the Joying support to have a refund for a unsatisfying QD unit, so I would preferably buy from an other brand.
Thanks.
There’s an Xtrons unit I was looking at. Model No. TR704L which has asimilar form factor to the joying single din units. not sure if the screen height is adjustable though.
whats up with the head unit ? i just got one of the px-5 octa core 4gb ram models with a 10.1 inch screen.
was trying to find a good matte screen protector
Néocray said:
Hello.
is there any suggestion for a 1-din head unit, with ajustable screen, similar to the Joying ones, like this?
I'm having a hard time with the Joying support to have a refund for a unsatisfying FYT unit, so I would preferably buy from an other brand.
Thanks.
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What was wrong with your fyt unit? Generally they are better quality than other designs.
angus99 said:
There’s an Xtrons unit I was looking at. Model No. TR704L which has asimilar form factor to the joying single din units. not sure if the screen height is adjustable though.
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The concept is interesting with the screen mounted on a ball joint. However, it doesn't seem to be adjustable. :/
I have an Alfa 156 and the screen has to fit between the gauges and the A/C controls. The 7" Joying screen barely fits.
dust906 said:
whats up with the head unit ? i just got one of the px-5 octa core 4gb ram models with a 10.1 inch screen.
was trying to find a good matte screen protector
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Candy from Joying keeps saying that I can't send the unit back to Germany, only to China. She's willing to refund half the shipping fees, but wants to make the exchange from China. So I would have to pay the customs, while it was already paid in the price from Germany.
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What was wrong with your fyt unit? Generally they are better quality than other designs.
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I don't know why I wrote FYT while it's a QD unit. :facepalm:
I'm looking for something similar. Something that won't block my AC controls or my 4WD controls.
Hi, We have this unit. its a 1din 10"
https://androidautoshop.com/1-din-s...32gb-entertainment-system.html#/26-map-europe
AnaMayShun said:
I'm looking for something similar. Something that won't block my AC controls or my 4WD controls.
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And it's quite difficult, because I need to see the gauges, at least the water temperature gauge, just in case.
Which means that there is only ~120 mm of clearance…
AndroidAutoShop said:
Hi, We have this unit. its a 1din 10"
https://androidautoshop.com/1-din-s...32gb-entertainment-system.html#/26-map-europe
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Thanks for your proposition, but the screen is way too big. :/
And your other universal 1-din has a 7" motorized screen which doesn't fit (because it would mask the gauges). Also, the price of the 7" is a little high, considering that the RAM is only 2 Gb…
I'm still struggling with the Joying support.
So if there is any other suggestion, I will happily hear it.
I just picked up a head unit very cheap, so my expectations were not very high. It was advertised as Android 9.1, 2 GB RAM, and 16 GB Flash storage.
It's really 1 GB RAM, 16 GB Flash, and Android 7.1.1. Here are some details I found with CPU-Z.
Android 7.1.1 API Level 25
Build ID K2001N_NWD_S212909.20200703.19342166
Model QUAD-CORE T3 k2001-nwd (K2001N_NWD_S212909)
Manufacturer Allwinner
Board exdroid
Hardware sun8iw11p1
4x ARM Cortex-A7 @ 1,.20 GHz
Mali-400 MP
1024 MB RAM
My previous head units were all made by XY Auto (8227L). I have the tools to backup and flash those units. This one appears to be completely different.
How do I backup the current ROM in case I mess it up and need to restore it? It appears the build is from July of this year, so at least it seems to have a newer build.
This unit is for my teenage son, so I don't plan to do a lot with it other than possibly load a different launcher.
Probably I got same unit this week for polo2016 and I cannot reset TPMS warning and Phone app is terrible if you know any idea about TMPS or BT replacement for this unit I'll be glad and GPS like terrible in my unit. There is a way to recalibrate it?
Hope you guys can return these units
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emirefek said:
Probably I got same unit this week for polo2016 and I cannot reset TPMS warning and Phone app is terrible if you know any idea about TMPS or BT replacement for this unit I'll be glad and GPS like terrible in my unit. There is a way to recalibrate it?
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For the GPS, antenna placement is the key. Ideally the GPS antenna should have a clear view of the sky and have a metal plate underneath it. If you run the antenna out a window and place the antenna on the hood or the roof of the car you will probably get great reception. Most people do not want to drill holes to run the wires for the antenna outside the car. I placed my antenna inside the dash very high up so that there is only one layer of plastic between the antenna and the top of the dash. I also placed a piece of sheet metal under the antenna. The metal acts as a ground plane and improves the reception.
Most installers leave the antenna behind the dash where it may not be facing the right direction and has metal obstructions between the antenna and the sky. Some windshields may contain a tint that blocks the GPS signals. Try placing a piece of metal on top of the dash and then the antenna on the metal to see how the reception works.
sean19661 said:
Hope you guys can return these units
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I got mine for free, so I really cannot complain.
Even for free it´s not cheap enough...
Btw. Can you broadcast hotspot on your unit? Because mine unite cannot broadcast hotspot. It is not connecting. If you can manage to connect headunits could you please reply my topic about this situation for this unit.
And my unit has FakeAndroid9 but it is really oreo if you want and know how to extract firmware. I can share firmware with you.
emirefek said:
Btw. Can you broadcast hotspot on your unit? Because mine unite cannot broadcast hotspot. It is not connecting. If you can manage to connect headunits could you please reply my topic about this situation for this unit.
And my unit has FakeAndroid9 but it is really oreo if you want and know how to extract firmware. I can share firmware with you.
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Hey. i really need help about this unit