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S2 Ics - Tw Discussion

I've read on other topics people talking about ics on our gs2, so i decided to create a thread to express opinions
instead of spamming other topics hehehe
So if you want to say twiz is fugly or i like it, this is the wright place for you hehehe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396647
For the ones that seek aosp feeling in sgs2 folow the link and post there hehehe

If you ask me the ics in the s2 looks like a car wreck hehehe its the ugliest thing i've ever seen XD
(bla bla if you hate so much why did u bought a s2? Because it was the best smartphone on the market, and still is one of the best)

Personally I like touchwiz way more than the LG, Motorolla, and HTC overlays. The launcher is the only thing I don't like about it, and that's easily fixed with launcher pro. I personally think the TW stuff adds some nice functionality without causing speed problems. The only thing I wish touchwiz had is the inline spelling correction... other than that it's fine for me.

Thats true, tw introduced a lot of things that were missing on gb, but for the best sammy phone it would be expected something better in aspect, not a expensive android copy of bada os

Business and Marketin Wise:
You can't sell a phone and later with an update, force people to change their entire experience with their phone.
So yes, ICS will have TW similiar to Gingerbread TW, there is no escape from that.
Luckily, unlike Apple users, we have options to "choose" from any launcher, even allowed to install different types of Android distros...
However, what I would like is similiar experience to AOSP launcher especially in App Drawer like Widgets, slides etc.

Touchwiz is by far the smoothest launcher for the s2.. The modified 4.5 version is even better..
So ill stick to tw.. Other launchers tends to be battery hungry..
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Better if samsung provides an option in settings to switch between touchwiz and ics launchers. Default being tw will not change the end user experience drastically.
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Unfortunately thats not gonna happen, but we have the option to install a custom ics launcher like nova launcher or trebuchet, and enjoy ics but the framework of samsung will be there =(

Gorjess said:
Touchwiz is by far the smoothest launcher for the s2.. The modified 4.5 version is even better..
So ill stick to tw.. Other launchers tends to be battery hungry..
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You see the problem is that any other UI on top of vanilla android is just a wrapper. At an expense. Sense, Motoblur, Tw all consume extra resources. I hear you say, "but our phones have monster resources". True, although unless the interface is offering extra functionality compared to stock, why use a wrapper?
After all the current iteration of android; ICS has proven that as an OS, android has matured in functionality, UX and eye candy. The only reason I use Tw on my phone is cause it enables video calling via the phone, which I hardly every use. Why should I be strongly coupled to Tw just cause I can not get that functionality form stock? I don't know. Here's hoping video calling get implemented in the stock Phone.apk soon...

A lot of people say Launcher pro and other 3rd part launchers are a smooth as TW but its a false smooth. In order to be smooth they must use a high CPU clock speed which chews up the battery. TW uses the GPU to make it fast and smooth. Underclock your CPU to 500mHz and try LP etc. and compare them to TW. TW will still run smooth but 3rd party launchers will stutter.

Initially I didn't like TouchWiz because of its rather iPhone-ish icons which in my opinion looked pretty bad on the original SGS which had an older version of TouchWiz.
After trying it out myself, though, I've gotten used to it and am starting to like it more than LP because of the ability to resize widgets and so on.
Its inevitable that Sammy would include TW into the update of one of their flagship devices. While I do like the original interface of stock ICS I wouldn't mind having TouchWiz in ICS since it was rather pleasant to use in Gingerbread.
If anyone really hates TouchWiz that badly, an AOSP version would be released by CyanogenMod anyways.

I love touch wiz its so cool ..!!
BUt when it comes to ICS

robt772000 said:
A lot of people say Launcher pro and other 3rd part launchers are a smooth as TW but its a false smooth. In order to be smooth they must use a high CPU clock speed which chews up the battery. TW uses the GPU to make it fast and smooth. Underclock your CPU to 500mHz and try LP etc. and compare them to TW. TW will still run smooth but 3rd party launchers will stutter.
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Indeed, but with ics the ui is hardware accelerated so the advantage of tw is lost
unless they make a real improvement from the leaked alpha to final, its almost certain that ill stick with cm9 when the time comes....
crobat said:
Initially I didn't like TouchWiz because of its rather iPhone-ish icons which in my opinion looked pretty bad on the original SGS which had an older version of TouchWiz.
After trying it out myself, though, I've gotten used to it and am starting to like it more than LP because of the ability to resize widgets and so on.
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i personally use adw ex and its pretty good no lags, lacks some tw options but have plenty of room for customization, and goes great with ics 1.6 theme by the great vert XD

i like TouchWiz when its gingerbread........
but i like ics framework and launcher than TW4.....
so i want to install ics launcher and frameworks very badly.......

Tyrany said:
Unfortunately thats not gonna happen, but we have the option to install a custom ics launcher like nova launcher or trebuchet, and enjoy ics but the framework of samsung will be there =(
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CM9 anyone?
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AOSP all the way for me. I'm looking forward to the necessary code being ripped from the Samsung "release" and being applied to the Nexus build. I've always much preferred to start with the basic AOSP experience and then build from there up.
As for the comments about GPU acceleration, this is not something new that is being brought about by ICS. GPU acceleration is an option that developers can enable in their apps when they build them. It needs nothing more than a value being set to true in a manifest file. The only difference between GB and ICS is that it is on by default in ICS.
You can't say that existing launchers don't use GPU unless you've decompiled the apk and checked. My guess is that any developer worth their salt would know this, and would be using GPU acceleration already.

Trebuchet launcher:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4s2EVdvKeY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396647
For the AOSP lovers like me hehehe folow the link and lets help supercurio lets make the diference xD
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TW is the only launcher i've tried so far that maintains iOS-like smoothness on full widget/shortcut load over 5 pages. Everything else either skip frames or just plain stutters in this task.
and dont even get me started on the yet unmatched spectrum of hardware video codec support that the TW framework provides.

Lag when scrolling in any launcher in stock ROM

Hi all, i experience lag when scrolling in any launcher (only except stock launcher TW4) in stock ROM or any stock based ROM. I dont see it in CM9 or AOSP based ROM.
Anyone know how to fix ? Thanks !

hth2813 said:
Hi all, i experience lag when scrolling in any launcher (only except stock launcher TW4) in stock ROM or any stock based ROM. I dont see it in CM9 or AOSP based ROM.
Anyone know how to fix ? Thanks !
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Same here, same everywhere. On CM9 everything run smooth. Thus its a software issue from Sammy's stock

Had the same issue. turned off system power saving and it is smooth again

I have never used power saving mode!
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Maybe the launcher you use is like a memory hog.
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I have tried apex, nova, go, spb 3d, tsf shell and many more. They all lag, only TW4 works fine, but i dont like TW4

This is quite a true problem, nothing to do with Power Saving mode or anything else. Launchers are laggy in the Note. The only non-stock launcher experience can be had with official CM9 as far as I've flashed (and some small exceptions here and there, by luck...)

[Q] Need Help

Help i have a galaxy s4 I9500(octa),i deleted all samsung apps,google apps,even knox and all other apps but my s4 still laggs as hell,the only smooth rom was pure android but it have a lot of randon reboots,sound issues,call problems what to do to have a smooth stock rom?

Flash a new stock Rom

Go to sammobile download your firnware and install vua odin...
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stock rom, remove things listed in the ultimate de bloat list, use system tuner or similar? in developer options change all animation scales to "animation off", and lastly try a different launcher. nova is probably the speediest/most lag free launcher I've ever used.

Gloris said:
stock rom, remove things listed in the ultimate de bloat list, use system tuner or similar? in developer options change all animation scales to "animation off", and lastly try a different launcher. nova is probably the speediest/most lag free launcher I've ever used.
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i did all you said but even nova laggs,coming from smooth as butter nexus 5 to s4 wasn't a good idea...

s4 is totally smooth for me. maybe you have some apps running that are constantly eating up system resources?
also bare in mind that your nexus does have a faster cpu and gpu i believe?
but honestly i don't know how people have problems with the s4, it's already like butter out of the box!
if you really need to, you can root and look into overclocking or use a custom kernel to further improve performance....but tbh, with the spec of the s4, it's really not necessary for performance in my opinion.

[Q] does the galaxy s4 really lags or is there a fix?

I am deciding on whether to buy an s4 or an xperia z1 ... I have watched gaming videos of the s4 and some games seem to lag (e.g. san andreas) while they work fine on the z1... And i read people complaining that the s4 is indeed laggy, not just games but in touchwiz and transition animations also.... are there fixes/updates that solve this 'lagginess' or is it still present till now?

lag in TW roms is a must...hehe, all TW roms lags, some lags more and some less, there will always be a tiny little of lag...sadly, about gaming its not TW problem, its more of optimizing the games for the cpu and gpu, if you look at galaxy s2 and s3 they plays gta sa without lag, but in S4 it lags a lot.....

is it the same thing on the exynos version? it's strange, galaxy s4 being the most popular smartphone at the time did not get optimized versions of games.

yes, its in every version, i my self have i9500 and even with TW custom roms it lags, cm based roms are a lot better in terms of speed, but they have some bugs so its not the best solution, miui rom is very good but they don't support it anymore, maybe later they will be back, i have TW based custom rom and i get angry when i want to use the phone quickly but don't have the needed speed......in the beginning of the next year i will be buying a new phone but its a bit of problem for me, i really want to have the NOTE 4, but i know that it will lag like the S4.....

I understand it lags in touchwiz interface but it does lag in games at well? the exynos version?

Lags
I got a S4 with a custom kernel. No lags so far, I got the International Variant, the GT-I9505 with the latest Firmware from Samsung. I debloated it by myself so maybe that could be the reason why it don't lags. My Ram is around 800MB when I use it normal. Greetings

it lags in games not because of TW, its because of bad optimization for the cpu and gpu....maybe if you flash cm based rom it will lag a bit less but still don't think for a second that its going to be smooth, its not only S4 problem, htc one m7 also have the same problem....and many more, for gaming you have to get an iphone......sadly....

hajyihia said:
it lags in games not because of TW, its because of bad optimization for the cpu and gpu....maybe if you flash cm based rom it will lag a bit less but still don't think for a second that its going to be smooth, its not only S4 problem, htc one m7 also have the same problem....and many more, for gaming you have to get an iphone......sadly....
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Use this Xposed module:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674928
This will probably fix your lag (only for TW). From what I read CM/AOSP roms also have better performance.
Tkkg1994 said:
I got a S4 with a custom kernel. No lags so far, I got the International Variant, the GT-I9505 with the latest Firmware from Samsung. I debloated it by myself so maybe that could be the reason why it don't lags. My Ram is around 800MB when I use it normal. Greetings
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No it's probably because you have a custom kernel where the tweak is already applied.

Lennyz1988 said:
Use this Xposed module:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674928
This will probably fix your lag (only for TW). From what I read CM/AOSP roms also have better performance.
No it's probably because you have a custom kernel where the tweak is already applied.
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Well than he can also flash a custom kernel. I can give him a link

No lag
I'm using stock 4.4.2 NG8 [open Europe] and there is no lag ever
lagged with me once but i found that an apk called [Galaxy Locker] causes this lag, the battery is kind of good and the overheating is almost fixed
while playing huge games Like [Modern Combat 5,Iron man, Assassin Creed Pirates] or even browsing.the max temperature my cell phone reached was 36.2 *C and it's great, while recharging it's only 31.2 *C

can't say much tw rom is full of bloatware..debloat the rom and you get smooth TW rom

Launchers with blur drawer background

Are there any good launchers with blur background ? using phoenix s7 launcher and is laggy.
Any other options?

Yes, you can try Smallwiz. I was on the Phoenix rom before and experienced the lagging too. The developer did a great job though but doesn't have much free time to perfect it although I've read he is releasing his final version of the rom V15 soon.
Smallwiz has Note 7 framework and layout. The blur effects is in the drawer as well as when opening the home folders.
The rom is fast and battery friendly too.