Hello, i have new Nexus 4 and i have some questions about unlocking bootloader (please, do not send me FAQ themes, they are useless):
1. is warranty restored by relocking bootloader? (On my old xperia no because of removed DRM keys)
2. can i use AOSP based roms with stock kernel without unlocking bootloader?
3. unlocked bootloader is disabling security features like secure boot or SElinux?
MichalkoOo said:
Hello, i have new Nexus 4 and i have some questions about unlocking bootloader (please, do not send me FAQ themes, they are useless):
1. is warranty restored by relocking bootloader? (On my old xperia no because of removed DRM keys)
2. can i use AOSP based roms with stock kernel without unlocking bootloader?
3. unlocked bootloader is disabling security features like secure boot or SElinux?
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1. Yes, u own a nexus nothing to worry about as long as u return to stock img and relocked bootloader ive warranty several nexus devices the years (they usually just give u new one )
2. No, they will casue major screen tearing or wont boot,if u want 100% guaranteed stock kernel (aosp version) u can pull boot. Img from RASBEANJELLY rom by rascarlo , he is always up to date with aosp and uses stock kernels in his roms (legit dev)
3. Theres always a security risk when unlocking or rooting i don't no exact answer to that question
Thank you, is 1.8GHz safe? Or what is max safe OC with what voltage?
Scanning the forum today, I came across this:
[ROM] Z.A.D.Mix7 -Stock Base Rom-
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It looks like it would solve all the issues I'm having with my A7:
Enable multi-user mode
Enable on-screen buttons
Replace ZTE's built-in apps.
Is this a safer route to go in general than installing Cyanogenmod (when it's ready)? I've got CM on my Nexus 4, and yes, there's nice stuff there that's probably not here, but is a de-bloated stock ROM more likely to be bug-free? More likely for the camera and sound system to work fully? Also, will a debloated ROM allow for OTA updates - or allow for them to be sideloaded? I guess I'm asking, if I were to install this, what would be the procedure to get Nougat once ZTE comes out with it? Wipe and re-flash? Or wait for a de-bloated ZTE nougat ROM and flash that?
In order to flash a ROM on your axon 7 you need to unlock your bootloader which causes your warranty to be void and you can no longer receive OTA updates. Also if you are running a custom ROM you will have to wipe your phone before flashing an OTA update. However if you are running the stock rom you will probably only need to flash the update. I've tried both CyanogenMod and Z.A.DMix7 and honestly Z.A.DMix7 is definitely the way to go. In my experience using Z.A.DMix7 it seemed to be as stable as the stock rim and didn't have any major bugs. The only problem I had with it is that since it it rooted there is no way to log into Snapchat. How ever if you don't want root I think there may be an way to remove root from the ROM however I haven't tried it so I'm not sure if it'll work.
I use the debloated rom with android n-ify, xStana, and gravitybox and it is much better than the stock rom. I haven't tried the cm rom. You would have to flash the stock rom and recovery to get OTA updates.
Hi there! My Nexus 5 died due to water damage, and I'm looking for a replacement. The Axon 7 is a possibility, but first, I have a couple of questions.
1. If you decide to unlock the bootloader (as far as I can tell from reading around), you will stop getting OTAs (correct?). But if I want to go back, or I screw up something, is there an "oh ****" panic thing I can do to get back to stock? Does this phone have something like Samsung's flash counter? Or if I restore to stock and lock the bootloader, will I "regain" my warranty? Is there a difference in rooting, flashing and going back to stock procedure between variants? I would buy in Europe.
2. I see you have a working CM13 over here, but is it "daily driver ready"? Sadly I don't have access to a phone to test the stock ROM, so I don't know if I would change it.
3. How is the Nougat situation? I see it's not officially out yet, but there are official beta tests for the US and Germany. But can you install these betas on a phone purchased and used somewhere else? Or is it IMEI based?
4. Does this phone support double tap to wake without preventing deep sleep and doze?
5. I know this phone has good audio by default, but does VIPER work on stock ROM or on the unofficial CM13? I have headphones that can pump out pretty good bass, but refuses to do so without some sort of audio tweak. Is there an option for bass boost by default?
6. Is there an option in stock or custom ROM to disable the capacitive buttons and move to an on screen navbar? Without downloading some wonky app that attempts do create something similar to a navbar that is...
I'll try and answer a few of these?
1. If you decide to unlock the bootloader (as far as I can tell from reading around), you will stop getting OTAs (correct?). But if I want to go back, or I screw up something, is there an "oh ****" panic thing I can do to get back to stock? Does this phone have something like Samsung's flash counter? Or if I restore to stock and lock the bootloader, will I "regain" my warranty? Is there a difference in rooting, flashing and going back to stock procedure between variants? I would buy in Europe.
2. I see you have a working CM13 over here, but is it "daily driver ready"? Sadly I don't have access to a phone to test the stock ROM, so I don't know if I would change it.
3. How is the Nougat situation? I see it's not officially out yet, but there are official beta tests for the US and Germany. But can you install these betas on a phone purchased and used somewhere else? Or is it IMEI based?
4. Does this phone support double tap to wake without preventing deep sleep and doze?
5. I know this phone has good audio by default, but does VIPER work on stock ROM or on the unofficial CM13? I have headphones that can pump out pretty good bass, but refuses to do so without some sort of audio tweak. Is there an option for bass boost by default?
6. Is there an option in stock or custom ROM to disable the capacitive buttons and move to an on screen navbar? Without downloading some wonky app that attempts do create something similar to a navbar that is...
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1) As far as I know, there is not "official" bootloader unlock at the moment. A few of us got in on it when it was offered, but ZTE retracted it a few weeks later. There are steps on how to root without unlocking the bootloader to allow you to install a custom recovery and there is also a "back to stock" guide. I'm not sure about a flash counter? If you are running a custom recovery, you break OTA's....But, usually in a few days there is a flashable update here on XDA
2) Some are using CM13 as a daily driver, but there are too many random issues ATM for me, with: GPS, data & wifi, and the speakers don't sound as good (some crackling) - which V4a helps with this.
3) Android N is slated for later this month... They took a several beta testers in December, then released a statement that it should be available the end of January
4) Yes, there is a DT2W function. Settings>Gestures & Motions>Double tap screen to wake.... It's not as good as some phones (Nexus, HTC), you learn how to make it work - Fingerprint scanner is pretty fast, I'd say as fast or faster than my Nexus 6p was.
5) You can flash V4a, if you have a custom recovery installed. I've flashed it a few times, but always come back to the stock Dolby Atmos - which can run with V4a if you follow the steps in the flashing guide here. There is no "Bass boost" in Dolby Atmos, but you can adjust the EQ to give it a lot of bass.
6) NavBar??? The US version has no option to enable or disable them, they are not available to us. But there is a flashable zip that enables them, but it doesn't disable the normal ones on the phone itself. So, you have the on screen and off screen navbars...Which I'm using and actually kind of like.
If you're looking for a phone that has a great development section, the Axon 7 will not have too many custom ROMs.......But I'm sure there will be more in the near future. Currently there are 3 custom ROMs listed, 2 de-bloated stock and CM13....Plus LinOS has an unofficial release as does Broken OS.
I will try my best for you here ......................
1. Unlocking the bootloader does not stop OTA's, root does. Even if for some reason you want to relock the bootloader I have done that a few times so don't worry about it. Back to stock is nothing more than downloading the stock rom from ZTE and using stock recovery to install from SD card. There is no worries there.
2. Some people are using CM 13 as a daily driver, but there are problems with GPS locking and audio distortion.. Read the thread on CM 13 for more details.
3. Nougat is in beta testing. Please don't ask about it as there are NDA's in place preventing people involved from talking about it at all, and all it seems to do is start a giant argument with some of the people here.
4. Stock rom does support DTTW. Don't know if it has an effect on doze or anything else, but stock rom and CM 13 have never given me any battery issues so I never concerned myself with anything like that.
5. V4A does work on both stock rom and CM 13, but I encourage you to try those headphones without V4A if you are on stock. ZTE did get the audio right (IMO).
6. Stock rom does not have on screen buttons, but custom based stock roms and CM 13 does, and they work. All the roms have that in their threads so read them before you install the roms to know what is going on.
I have moto g4 plus (2016) and want to install custom rom but I have some questions and without knowing about them i can't take the risk.so please answer sir.
1) There is 2 Twrp custom recovery one is 32 bit and second is 64 bit, so which is best ?
2) if I use 32 bit and flash 64 bit rom ,can it possible?
3) if No then if am use 64 bit Twrp and flash 32 bit rom accidentally ,can it will brick my device??
4) i am currently on stock rom android 7.0 , today most custom rom is based on 9.0 ,if I flash pie custom rom and after months i want revert back to stock or Oreo rom ,can i will do it? Because in some custom rom there is note that after flashing this rom you can not revert back lower version of rom.
5) where is rom take space if I flash it, means in ram ,internal storage???
Thanks in advance.i know this question is help for other noob:good:
keval3492 said:
I have moto g4 plus (2016) and want to install custom rom but I have some questions and without knowing about them i can't take the risk.so please answer sir.
1) There is 2 Twrp custom recovery one is 32 bit and second is 64 bit, so which is best ?
2) if I use 32 bit and flash 64 bit rom ,can it possible?
3) if No then if am use 64 bit Twrp and flash 32 bit rom accidentally ,can it will brick my device??
4) i am currently on stock rom android 7.0 , today most custom rom is based on 9.0 ,if I flash pie custom rom and after months i want revert back to stock or Oreo rom ,can i will do it? Because in some custom rom there is note that after flashing this rom you can not revert back lower version of rom.
5) where is rom take space if I flash it, means in ram ,internal storage???
Thanks in advance.i know this question is help for other noob:good:
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64bit recoveries can handle 32bit roms too. Use a 64bit recovery and everything is fine.
You cannot downgrade your bootloader from stock Oreo to stock nougat(your current Rom). Custom roms won't flash bootloaders,only stock roms.
Your whole flash storage of your device is divided into several partitions like system, data, boot, recovery, internal storage. That's why you have to deal with less memory in your internal storage(10 out of 16 for example).
You cannot(yeah, but don't do it) modify the partition size cause it's used to met some requirements.
The rom will be flashed into system/data partition, not internal storage but also uses ram of course
Thanks man , but can you elaborate my question on if I flash today custom rom on pie base and that is rumor on moto g4 plus that oreo update will launch soon and I also wait for it.so can i get that update if I am on pie custom rom.sorry for your answer ,i not understand that .
keval3492 said:
Thanks man , but can you elaborate my question on if I flash today custom rom on pie base and that is rumor on moto g4 plus that oreo update will launch soon and I also wait for it.so can i get that update if I am on pie custom rom.sorry for your answer ,i not understand that .
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Yes you can get official Oreo update if you are on Pie custom rom. You just need to go back to stock rom or flash the stock Oreo rom manually like the soak test.
Can you give me Twrp 64 bit link and also which custom rom do you prefer on gaming performance , battery performance and customisable wise? Thanks a lot...
keval3492 said:
Can you give me Twrp 64 bit link and also which custom rom do you prefer on gaming performance , battery performance and customisable wise? Thanks a lot...
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Here's a link for the 64 bit TWRP https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...recovery-twrp-3-2-1-unofficial-touch-t3722206 for flashing both 32 bit and 64 bit custom ROMs and TWRP flashables.
Of course, unlocking your bootloader and flashing a custom ROM via TWRP will unavoidably erase your device, so back up as necessary. Be also aware that flashing a custom ROM may necessitate flashing magisk as well, to get your device Google certified again.
As for a particular ROM, your best bet is to have a look at each custom ROM's page and particularly the first page and the last few pages. Both of those should give you information on how suitable the ROM is from other user's reports for your usage and also give you an idea how often the ROM is updated.
It is necessary for flashing magisk? Because magisk root my mobile and I don't want to do it right now.
keval3492 said:
It is necessary for flashing magisk? Because magisk root my mobile and I don't want to do it right now.
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For some apps, like banking apps for example, these apps may not function properly if they detect an unlocked bootloader, or if your device does not pass Google Play Store certification. If you're wanting to flash a custom ROM or a TWRP flashable, then you may have to consider flashing magisk for magisk hide. Magisk hide helps to hide your unlocked bootloader status and thus may get your device certified to use these apps. Up to you - depends on if you use apps that won't work if they detect your device has an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks sir for get me guide .What is athens when I open xda moto g4 plus and what is kernel and how it is important ??
keval3492 said:
Thanks sir for get me guide .What is athens when I open xda moto g4 plus and what is kernel and how it is important ??
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I'm guessing by Athens you mean athene? If so, athene is the device codename for the Moto G4/plus (2016). Custom ROMs and software designed for athene should work on our services, though please check the release dates of such software. That also means software built for another device codename may not work.
A kernel is part of the software communicating between the hardware and the software. Custom ROMs will come with one usually. If you choose to flash another kernel, ensure you flash the correct type of kernel - there are kernels for stock 7.0/6.0 (Motorola), 7.1 (custom) and kernels for custom 8.1/9.0 ROMs. These may not be cross compatible and as such if you flash the incorrect kernel to your device your device may fail to boot (buy then that's what TWRP backups are for). Due to the lack of source code for stock 8.1, I've not seen custom kernels built for the stock Motorola 8.1 stock ROM yet.
Thank you sir for guide me about athene and kernel ,so i choose custom rom only made for athene and kernel is also built in with custom rom.
I am on stock oreo on moto g4 plus ,it is same process in oreo for unlock bootloader??
keval3492 said:
I am on stock oreo on moto g4 plus ,it is same process in oreo for unlock bootloader??
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Please search within the correct rom thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...4-oreo-soak-test-update-t3871136/post78966322
I did not get proper answer from link you send ,please help for this..
keval3492 said:
I did not get proper answer from link you send ,please help for this..
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Should be the same process to unlock your bootloader, provided your motherboard is the same and you've still got your IMEI and software channel.
Can you elaborate what you said about motherboard and IMEI ,i am getting that method is same as nought but after that line i don't understand.
keval3492 said:
Can you elaborate what you said about motherboard and IMEI ,i am getting that method is same as nought but after that line i don't understand.
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When you unlock your bootloader, you need the unlock key. The unlock key is likely generated from and linked to your motherboard; if your motherboard had been changed, then you'd have to get a new unlock key.
If your IMEI is still present in your device and working, the unlock key should work. Some users with existing IMEI issues may not be able to unlock their bootloaders.
Basically, if your device is the same when you requested the unlock key, and everything is working okay, then unlocking should be the same as Nougat without any further steps. Back up, boot to fastboot and connect your device to your computer, then enter the unlock key command - with your key - on your computer in the minimal ADB terminal.
I changed my motherboard once and after that I unlock my bootloader also ,but I brick my device by installing 64 bit rom on 32 bit twrp version and after that I lock my bootloader and start as a fresh device till now.
Same key is still working for me as I want unlock my bootloader??
keval3492 said:
I changed my motherboard once and after that I unlock my bootloader also ,but I brick my device by installing 64 bit rom on 32 bit twrp version and after that I lock my bootloader and start as a fresh device till now.
Same key is still working for me as I want unlock my bootloader??
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Should be - use the same key as you used to unlock your bootloader before (after you had your motherboard changed). Be aware you will not be able to re-lock your bootloader if you unlock your bootloader at the moment. We do not have the Oreo firmware to lock stock Oreo devices or devices previously updated to stock Oreo firmware.
Oreo firmware means coding in CMD ??
Hi, I have a stock 6T (T-mobile variant) that is SIM unlocked (bootloader is not) running on 10.3.10 build. My previous 6T (which died after drop/crack) was converted to international firmware and running Android 9 (with unlocked bootloader, root, etc). I was planning on doing the same thing to this one, until I read multiple reports of T-mobile bootloaders not being certifiable for GPay, etc. I really need the root, don't really care much about bootloader or having a working recovery to flash custom ROMs (prefer stock experience from 9). Then there are rumors of beta Android 11 coming, so I am wandering what would be my best option to use. Is there a way to just root the stock T-mobile or need to unlock bootloader, convert to international, etc. Root is wanted for ad-block. audio tweaks, CarStream (youtube for Android Auto) and possibly few other things that I might already forgot. I do value stability and battery life with some tweaks allowed by OxygenOS although familiar with Pixel launcher and like Google Feed option. I am sure this was already discussed in various threads but any pointers would be highly appreciated.