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The main feature off lollipop and sony chooses to ignore it.
Let's all start the digging
That is terrible news :<
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Fu**! Stupid sony!
I do not see more reasons to upgrade to lollipop . The RAW function was my main reason to upgrade .
OK the xperiablog.net report says no raw support for 3rd party cameras as yet. Can anyone confirm the same for the inbuilt camera
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mariojuniorjp said:
Fu**! Stupid sony!
I do not see more reasons to upgrade to lollipop . The RAW function was my main reason to upgrade .
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Really, Samsung don't have it, LG don't have it either. Or has that changed?
sony wouldnt implement it in its camera firmware anyway, but i was hoping that at least they would include the support for it for 3rd party camera apps, but acordingly to xperia blog, all features are disabled.
This is a shame really, sony ****ed up big time. Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
we cant even get away from the mediocre camera results from sony now, this is sad.
i expect that they implement some of the advanced camera api features from lollipop on Z4, so soon or later it would be ported to z3 series, but this is just a speculation by me.
Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?
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Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?
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Isn't fixed. Source from the other lollipop thread here
ogyct said:
Can anyone tell, if soft skin issue has been fixed for front facing camera?
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Nope not fixed.
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But can developers implant these camera api's in there roms even if sony haven't?
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But can developers implant these camera api's in there roms even if sony haven't?
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No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
Can someone say if it's possible to use another devices camera binaries for the same sensor?
Since our only hope is riding on the Meizu MX4: gsmarena.com/meizu_mx4_and_mx_4_pro_to_get_android_lollipopbased_flyme_os-news-11023.php
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No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
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I remember reading something about a new HTC phone coming out with the same sensor which could theoretically make that possible. Can anyone confirm?
meh,
because YOU want RAW doesnt't mean other want it, 99% of customers don't care about RAW so don't say stupid things.
Would have been nice to have to play around with and to show off to my iPhone friend . In the end it all depends on your point of view. Compared to smartphone camera a few years ago the Z3c is amazing. I've made some beautiful shots with it. And compared to a "real" camera all smartphones are garbage (except maybe Nokia?).
So for me the camera is perfect. I don't want to make a photography album with my pictures I want to have a quick shooter to capture some memories. And with the auto mode and the dedicated button the Z3c is exactly what I need.
It's frustrating because the camera hardware in the phone isn't being utilized to its full potential. Yes, it's fine for the average user, but for some, and I think many on this forum share this mindset - we try to get the most out of our devices. Not tapping into our camera's full potential is like leaving our device unrooted - it's neutered.
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Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
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The main difference between the S6 and the Z3 being that the S6 is running Lollipop out of the box, where the Z3 is running Kit Kat. Implementing the Camera2 API is a lot more work than just porting the legacy firmware on Lollipop. That's why all OEMs chose to port their old firmware and stop here.
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meh,
because YOU want RAW doesnt't mean other want it, 99% of customers don't care about RAW so don't say stupid things.
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Ok mystic meg
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pepeo123 said:
sony wouldnt implement it in its camera firmware anyway, but i was hoping that at least they would include the support for it for 3rd party camera apps, but acordingly to xperia blog, all features are disabled.
This is a shame really, sony ****ed up big time. Galaxy s6 has RAW option, manual focus, manual everything, and all this in the default camera app. You can go even further and use 3rd party apps that have more features.
we cant even get away from the mediocre camera results from sony now, this is sad.
i expect that they implement some of the advanced camera api features from lollipop on Z4, so soon or later it would be ported to z3 series, but this is just a speculation by me.
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S6 does bit have RAW in their official camera app. Nor do they have manual shutter speed etc in their camera app.
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adamk7 said:
I remember reading something about a new HTC phone coming out with the same sensor which could theoretically make that possible. Can anyone confirm?
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HTC use a Toshiba Sensor.
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No, we can't because the camera binaries for the Sony Exmor IMX220 camera sensor have to support it and the only phones to use this sensor are the entire Sony Z Series and the Meizu MX4.
Can someone say if it's possible to use another devices camera binaries for the same sensor?
Since our only hope is riding on the Meizu MX4: gsmarena.com/meizu_mx4_and_mx_4_pro_to_get_android_lollipopbased_flyme_os-news-11023.php
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the funny thing is, I tried snapchat today, and the front camera does not soften the skin.
I guess there is a way but I'm no developer so I cant check or try.
Is there any way to improve camera quality on Cyanogen Mod latest nightly (official) for Z1 Compact?
CM fully works now but i dont like camera quality, like I have 8mpx, and front one is bad.
Don't know about improving it, but there's some ports/alternative camera apps out there that will take better pictures. Google cam, Jishnu's h2o cam port, and one on play store called Camera HD ultra, or something like that. I've found that they all take better pics. Personally I'm waiting for a MM update to the Sony camera port.
think there will be official MM camera blobs for aosp, levelone1?
onto the OP: no way to improve aosp camera, as manufacturers (sony is not alone) doesn't publish full featured camera drivers to aosp so the community uses generic hw layer for cameras therefore almost every camera (by that i mean big manufacturers) is worse than stock. there was a lot commentary written already on that matter, aiming mostly on google and aosp architecture overall.
agree with levelone1, you can try jishnu sur's ports as they include binary libraries ripped from stock roms. it doesn't always work on every rom and hardware but you can try. he have g+ community https://plus.google.com/communities...2/stream/d8676ee7-0970-452e-82f3-a10e3b0b4a36 and publishes regulary camera ports.
Hello all,
Now that there are so many great devs supporting our device there is a question that i would like to ask.
Is there any possibility to optimize and add OIS through custom roms in the near future?
If i am not wrong the quality on OP3,GP is better(even with google camera) due to their software during the img processing. It would be splendid to have the camera improved even by a small margin.
I also want to clarify that i am not circle jerking about the camera, i am humbly asking if such software upgrade would be possible.
Thanks!
Ois is hardware dependant. Yes, op3 has same sensor, but with ois implemented. You cant have it by some software tweaks
But there is EIS, so electronik stabilization. Maybe this helps?
Thanks for the responses. I havent really make any research regarding mobile phone sensors so i could only guess.
If OIS is out of question due to being hardware dependent, then what about the image processing?
As far as i have seen its mostly software dependent so do you think that we could get better quality ?(i.e better night shots)
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But there is EIS, so electronik stabilization. Maybe this helps?
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Cant see EIS on the stock came( i meant an enabler)
Yes it is not activ, bit maybe the devs could integrate it. It should be possible because no extra Hardware is needed.
You need sources and blobs and stuff. Its not that simple, wouldnt bet on it happening. Only realistic way is if leeco themselfes push update with improved quality
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You need sources and blobs and stuff. Its not that simple, wouldnt bet on it happening. Only realistic way is if leeco themselfes push update with improved quality
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That sounds good, but i usw lineage OS and therefore the leeco updates are useless?
I have used many ROMs based on Lineage OS here.
Testing camera performance especially front camera for selfie.
MIUI camera delivers exceptionally amazing selfies.
I have tested Open Camera on MIUI and the selfie quality went bad, selfies became dull as same as they are in Lineage cameras.
This means the App is the key to better selfies.
If its possible to Port that app, Many users on internet willing to donate for the same.
Also this will improve overall device feel and experience on LineageOS.
If this thread becomes capable to attract at least one developer who shows interest in this we will be lucky.
Participate with your ideas and try to attract Developers here.If you are willing to Donate for this project kindly do mention.
I've seen this happen on every Xiaomi phone I've owned. On all of them there's a thread of people really wanting a port of the MIUI camera, but on none of them is it possible. The MIUI camera is part of the MIUI framework and won't work without it. So unless someone makes a Magisk module of the MIUI framework that plays nicely with AOSP and ports the camera it won't be possible
Guys please participate in this thread.
Participation is only key to get Dev attention.
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I've seen this happen on every Xiaomi phone I've owned. On all of them there's a thread of people really wanting a port of the MIUI camera, but on none of them is it possible. The MIUI camera is part of the MIUI framework and won't work without it. So unless someone makes a Magisk module of the MIUI framework that plays nicely with AOSP and ports the camera it won't be possible
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I just found this MIUI5 port that works on Marshmallow (I don't know if works in Nougat): (Sharing)(APP) MIUICamera App
Maybe this could help to find a way to port the newer versions.
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I just found this MIUI5 port that works on Marshmallow (I don't know if works in Nougat): (Sharing)(APP) MIUICamera App
Maybe this could help to find a way to port the newer versions.
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Not useful, people who used it are saying it's working as a normal camera app only.
And I tried, not working in my phone.
Dan_Jacques said:
I just found this MIUI5 port that works on Marshmallow (I don't know if works in Nougat): (Sharing)(APP) MIUICamera App
Maybe this could help to find a way to port the newer versions.
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I think that is just the app, it doesn't include the low level firmware optimisations. It doesn't work on the MI5,and it's based on MIUI5 which is 4years old. The fact that we haven't made progress post that is testiment to how difficult it is to port the camera firmware. Atm the only solution is dual bootiing, and using a MIUI based ROM if you go out to take pictures (like on a holiday). It's ****ty, but it's what we're stuck with. Google Camera works OK on Lineage for quick snaps anyway.
Wait for next update of the snap camera. I am sure it will rock
I have realized that MIUI has really developed its camera app over the time, even if some other camera app are launched. They will not catchup with this app. Hence if we have a scope to use this existing piece of work we must port it rather than focusing on other means.
I just hope some developer has seen this thread and considering to take on this project.
will a camera port be ever available?
I really like the MIUI camera because the focus peaking option, who else ?
guys I have talked to developers, they are saying that it's not possible to port this camera.
And if it was possible, someone in XDA community would have already ported it like these is Google camera.
So if you want great photos, be on MIUI.
Guys, Sad news is Developers have denied to make any such port.
They say MIUI camera has something to do with Miui framework also this camera is Closed Source.
Sadly in summary If you want to use your phone for camera stay on MIUI only.
Use raw shooting for max quality for both AOSP and MIUI. As it pulls raw data without any touch you can get superrior quality compared to MIUI camera app.
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~N.A.W.Y~ said:
Use raw shooting for max quality for both AOSP and MIUI. As it pulls raw data without any touch you can get superrior quality compared to MIUI camera app.
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How to shoot that perfect quality RAW ?
Now I'm on LOS 14.1 + DragonXia Kernel and when I try RAW from Footej Camera Premium the quality is sh*t and the colors are really bad
It was the same with EU rom
pi4a7a said:
How to shoot that perfect quality RAW ?
Now I'm on LOS 14.1 + DragonXia Kernel and when I try RAW from Footej Camera Premium the quality is sh*t and the colors are really bad
It was the same with EU rom
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I use lightroom app for both shooting and editing.
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I revert back to MIUI just because of camera.......
FirojKhan said:
I revert back to MIUI just because of camera.......
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I was just installing lineageos to have Aosp rom...but reading this I will not try it anymore on my Mi5 128 GB
Im using jdc 7.1.2 with snapdragon camera and google camera( google camera crash on slowmotion) and both work fine.
ergysramaj said:
Im using jdc 7.1.2 with snapdragon camera and google camera( google camera crash on slowmotion) and both work fine.
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file download and flash twrp
fix slowmotion
http://s8.picofile.com/file/8295939250/gcamslomo.zip.html
I revert back to MIUI just because of camera!
Good afternoon fellas !
I'm writing to you in order to know which camera app you are using right now since I tried last port from Pixel 3 google camera with no results. Is there any port available to use bokeh or HDR+ in our SD801 powered devices?
I'm looking forward for a better camera than the Lineage OS stock one, which is the same since Lollypop days.
Kind regards.
as far as i know, the devs dont have the code for the camera api2 needed for these apps from Samsung. so we are stuck with mediocre camera in non-tw versions. so it doesnt matter what you try, as long as your ROM does not have the api2 support coded in, the app will not make full use of the api features.
learning_to said:
Good afternoon fellas !
I'm writing to you in order to know which camera app you are using right now since I tried last port from Pixel 3 google camera with no results. Is there any port available to use bokeh or HDR+ in our SD801 powered devices?
I'm looking forward for a better camera than the Lineage OS stock one, which is the same since Lollypop days.
Kind regards.
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Good afternoon! A nice camera is the only grail on S5, given that we are already blessed to have so many nice ROMs.
I recommend Google camera 3.1 from apkmirror to have hdr+
Or my A2 camera mod if you want a modern UI with interesting features
Also the lineage camera is being worked on by our maintainer so it should get even better soon
alexbelgium said:
Good afternoon! A nice camera is the only grail on S5, given that we are already blessed to have so many nice ROMs.
I recommend Google camera 3.1 from apkmirror to have hdr+
Or my A2 camera mod if you want a modern UI with interesting features
Also the lineage camera is being worked on by our maintainer so it should get even better soon
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I'll give them a try for sure! Thanks a lot, lad!