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Hi guys i know there are lots of similar posts about battery life etc but cant find the answer im looking for after a search of this forum as all answers seem to be on rooted devices, she does not want her x8 rooted and im really getting it in the neck for upgrading her in the first place lol.
My girlfriend recently got the 2.1-update 1 via pc companion and thats when the battery problems started. The battery drain problem has actually been getting progressively worse since this. This morning (after yet another full night charging 100%) after 30 mins of getting up today the battery was down to 83 %. I have already uninstalled maps updates, not that she ever used it anyway.
So my question is : is there a solution to this without rooting and/or having a custom ROM? becuase she making my life a misery lol.
Thanks in advance guys and sorry for the similar post
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Hi guys i know there are lots of similar posts about battery life etc but cant find the answer im looking for after a search of this forum as all answers seem to be on rooted devices, she does not want her x8 rooted and im really getting it in the neck for upgrading her in the first place lol.
My girlfriend recently got the 2.1-update 1 via pc companion and thats when the battery problems started. The battery drain problem has actually been getting progressively worse since this. This morning (after yet another full night charging 100%) after 30 mins of getting up today the battery was down to 83 %. I have already uninstalled maps updates, not that she ever used it anyway.
So my question is : is there a solution to this without rooting and/or having a custom ROM? becuase she making my life a misery lol.
Thanks in advance guys and sorry for the similar post
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Well, 1st thing as Dx said. reboot after using wifi, 3g, music. reboot to make everything fresh.. but there's no other way to save battery without rooting I think. because I helped my gf installed a custom ROM for her and she said that the battery life changed, and it's way different than a original ROM. How come she doesn't wanna go custom? Sorry for my bad english.
Right tweaks only applies in rooted phone
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Right tweaks only applies in rooted phone
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Agree with you!
Nah, rooting makes the difference. IMO Froyo ROMs have good battery life.
Well i think she might well have to go custom because the battery life is a joke now, nearly rendering her device unusable, think she just frightened cos i did her pc companion update and kinda blames me for the crap battery now, il have a read around the x8 forum on how to root.
Thanks everyone, apreciate it
Just try to keep off all things you don't need: Wifi, Bluetooth, Synchronization, 3G. also unninstall apps you don't need and do not use app killers to save RAM.
I think that is all you can do without rooting.
patriciocs said:
Just try to keep off all things you don't need: Wifi, Bluetooth, Synchronization, 3G. also unninstall apps you don't need and do not use app killers to save RAM.
I think that is all you can do without rooting.
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My friend, less RAM is actually a good thing. I've read through the web. just don't auto kill ALL the apps, kill those apps that when it doesn't look right or freezes. The more RAM you freed, the more battery it will drain. Serious.
swifteh said:
Well i think she might well have to go custom because the battery life is a joke now, nearly rendering her device unusable, think she just frightened cos i did her pc companion update and kinda blames me for the crap battery now, il have a read around the x8 forum on how to root.
Thanks everyone, apreciate it
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Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139163
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153768
Read this for the task killer.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/02/revisiting-android-task-killers-and-why-you-dont-need-one/
For rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046605
and custom ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=849
Hope this helps!
I'm just a noob trying to help.
use a task killer and disable all what you don't need like bluetooth, data traffic, gps and wifi. yes i know my english is bad^^
disable wifi, gps, bluetooth and data traffic. stock 2.1update rom should get you about 3 days with those disabled. any apps that need them will ask you to switch them on again anyway. It's a little annoying to get used to at first especially when you're used to a fone that lasts a week without charge so I can understand how she feels especially if she only wants to text and do a few calls.
If you don't use wifi, 3g gps and rest of the s**t you should probbably buy a dumy phone.
With some "normal" usage you can be happy if it lasts for a day/day and a half.
2-3 is really success.
You do get a charger in the box with the phone you know?
Use your phone, stop wasting time on battery monitoring.
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You do get a charger in the box with the phone you know?
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yeah but the idea is it's a MOBILE fone.. You dont want it plugged into the damn socket all the time!
If you need to use the GPS, WIFI etc. the app will ask you to switch it on so wheres the harm in turning it all off until it's required if it saves having to plug the thing in every day?!?
Nobody stated you should keep all the functions on.
But it should be understandable that, with some "normal" use, and by normal I mean regular texting, phonecalls, check facebook/twitter, refresh weather app, read mail and some news maybe you can't expect your battery to last 7 days like on dummy nokia.
Besides, you all forget that your biggest battery killer is the screen.
And another thing I noticed; when LED starts to glow green, your battery isn't fully charged. Check phone status. It becomes green after passing 90% I think, or so.
And the second thing I noticed is a HUGE differenc when charging the phone while it's on, for a hour and a half when the battery metter reaches 100% and when I turn it off and leave it charging over night.
The "night" option proved to be a lot better (battery lasts longer, doesn't fall so fast) + Every once in a while it is good to fully discharge the battery and then fully charge it.
terracuk said:
yeah but the idea is it's a MOBILE fone..
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Yeah, but that mobile phones have long since ceased to be just phones.
Switch off everything you can : wifi, brighteness, gps etc. Also you can make a profile "screen off " in setcpu and set it to 122mhz . it will save you a lot of battery! It drains just 1% after 5 hours ( but i didnt use my phone) . Hope it help.
Oh yeah and use the app called " fast reboot " it is so good is well and it speed up our lovely x8
When i used these things , my phone lasts in a week or more of.course i nearly didnt use my phone.
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Seeing as I don't have enough posts to post over in the development forum, I thought I'd hijack this thread.
I installed this rom last week and at first, the batter was brilliant. It lasted for three days but now I have to charge it twice a day. I have bluetooth off, wifi off more often than not, brightness down very low.
The phone was 5hrs on battery and was down to 44%.
Cell Standby: 35%
Display: 20%
Phone Idle: 19%
Launcher Pro: 13%
Anyone have any ideas?
I also experienced the same problem ... especially with the overclocked conditions
Anybody know how to disable the low battery restrictions? I like to get every last drop out of my battery before swapping it out. Currently rooted.
You do know that letting Li-Ion batteries fall below about 15-20% on a regular basis will significantly reduce their lifespan and ability to hold a full charge.
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switters1 said:
Anybody know how to disable the battery restrictions? I like to get every last drop out of my battery before swapping it out. Currently rooted.
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I'm desperately trying to find the code to stop these. The auto screen dimming and low battery warnings drive me crazy (the screen dimming in particular. It makes it SO dim it effectively makes the phone in the last five percent completely useless.) If I find a way to disable it in the system, I'll let you know. Till then, I use an app called adjbrightness to force the screen back up to useable brightness when it dims at low battery. (And before any of you who misunderstand what we're talking about responds, the screen dimming that occurs at the last five percent is not the "power saving" feature turning on. We've obviously completely disabled that in the settings. It dims anyway.)
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I'm desperately trying to find the code to stop these. The auto screen dimming and low battery warnings drive me crazy (the screen dimming in particular. It makes it SO dim it effectively makes the phone in the last five percent completely useless.) If I find a way to disable it in the system, I'll let you know. Till then, I use an app called adjbrightness to force the screen back up to useable brightness when it dims at low battery. (And before any of you who misunderstand what we're talking about responds, the screen dimming that occurs at the last five percent is not the "power saving" feature turning on. We've obviously completely disabled that in the settings. It dims anyway.)
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any chance we might have an update to this thread?? been open since May.....
Has anybody found a solution for this?
Aitch said:
Has anybody found a solution for this?
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Yea, re-charge it.
jd1639 said:
Yea, re-charge it.
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How do I do that, I searched for years for an answer already but haven't found any information. Somehow, my phone magically updated (not my fault) to MF12 (AT&T Android 7.0) and I LOKI rooted it with Safestrap. Now, when I dunk it in water, the moon is pink. Oh, and I'm not a Noob. I've had 768 Android phones and 1 iphone, so I know what I am doing. So if you guys will to do everything for me...I mean...I mean... do anything for me I would be so happy. I have to go post 8 already asked and answered questions in the General section now, so please don't tell me to read for any answers...'cause you guys are condescending dicks. Any help?
How about now...any help for me yet?
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Yea, re-charge it.
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yeah that's cute. but it does not answer the question actually. most people might be able to ascertain that this person is simply looking for a solution to a problem that is bigger than you solution. Im sorry you couldnt see that for yourself.
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How do I do that, I searched for years for an answer already but haven't found any information. Somehow, my phone magically updated (not my fault) to MF12 (AT&T Android 7.0) and I LOKI rooted it with Safestrap. Now, when I dunk it in water, the moon is pink. Oh, and I'm not a Noob. I've had 768 Android phones and 1 iphone, so I know what I am doing. So if you guys will to do everything for me...I mean...I mean... do anything for me I would be so happy. I have to go post 8 already asked and answered questions in the General section now, so please don't tell me to read for any answers...'cause you guys are condescending dicks. Any help?
How about now...any help for me yet?
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just in case you were wondering, because clearly you cant see that for yourself, I searched and found this thread. I didnt start a new one in another forum, no..... I actually searched and found this one and responded to an old post. funny huh? now, perhaps with all that time you wasted carefully constructing your cute little response, perhaps you might be able to offer up something that is a bit more constructive and helpful? Thank you in advance. fykmamfcs
Sweet! Now I know how to disable the screen dimming when the battery gets to 5% - oh wait, I still don't know? Does anybody know?
drichter12 said:
You do know that letting Li-Ion batteries fall below about 15-20% on a regular basis will significantly reduce their lifespan and ability to hold a full charge.
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I did not know this. I thought it was better to fully discharge before charging again?
I used this app, works great for me:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.pruss.superdim
^That Root Dim app kicks ass, great app and a fair solutions. Bummer we have to work around but hey it works. I have a zerolemon and 5% is good for quite a long time, that dimmer made the phone useless in direct sunlight. screwed me over a few times..
thanks for the tip
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I did not know this. I thought it was better to fully discharge before charging again?
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20%, 5%, 1%, it really doesn't matter.
Your phone screams "0%" and shuts itself down when the battery hits about 3V. The battery protection circuit only kicks in at 2.5V. When your phone switches itself off you can safely leave the battery "empty" for at least a year or two before it self-discharges beyond repair.
All those "keep your battery above x %" superstitions are in the same boat as the long debunked "deleting batterystats.bin calibrates your battery" myth.
well this conversation has been highly entertaining and shows the deep divide between "leave your battery to run out" or "don't let your battery completely run out" either way how one manages their battery is their business ?
About the warning sound on older devices:
1) rooted android
2) replace system/media/audio/ui/LowBattery.ogg with a still ogg file.
I hope it will help
When my battery reaches 5% the screen dims (probably to the lowest brightness possible) so much that when outside the phone is not usable because I can't see anything and the brightness slider from the notification bar disappears. Is there a way to disable this? btw power saving is turned off.
Also does anybody knows if the phone slows down cpu/gpu when on low battery because I've been playing some games on low battery and I think they were a bit "laggy" but power saving was turned off.
Also interested
Me too
Also trying to find a solution since more than 1 week. Until now i've no clue
Thats really annoying an i hate Samsung for that - It's strange because my girlfriend owned a S3 and she don't have this :silly:
OMG I`m not alone in this problem. waiting for the solution patiently
Robsen87 said:
Also trying to find a solution since more than 1 week. Until now i've no clue
Thats really annoying an i hate Samsung for that - It's strange because my girlfriend owned a S3 and she don't have this :silly:
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I hate this feature as well, but it's on all phones that run android
It's built into the system
At 5% power, brightness goes to minimum
It's good feature, but when you have extended battery, it's really annoying with still a lot of power left. Screen becomes pretty dark.
And the fact that power of extended battery does not show correctly, it's 5% us not even like 10, but could actually be like 20, makes it even a bigger problem
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+1
Any ideas how to fix this issue ?
There's no actual way to override low power at 5%
It's built-in android.
If you really need backlight, get app in market, called adjbrightness, that's one word.
It can override brightness to any percentage you details yourself, it actually guess from 0-255, but it won't Activate auto brightness, since that blocked by android due to low power.
So just use that apply if you really need more light on screen till next charge cycle.
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It doesn't work. The app says that I need to be root, but I'm already am!
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It doesn't work. The app says that I need to be root, but I'm already am!
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Of course it works, and you to need to be rooted
Maybe you didn't gave apply root permissions or denied them when it asked for root.
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I have granted it several times, even manually on the SU app.
eXtremeDevil said:
I have granted it several times, even manually on the SU app.
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Well, it works really well for me and many others
What ROM are you running?
Stock GS4 or something custom?
Are you using any apps that control brightness?
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You can see my ROM and stuff on my signature. I don't think I have any brightness app.
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You can see my ROM and stuff on my signature. I don't think I have any brightness app.
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That's what I've thought
You need stock rom and stock kernel
Otherwise, everything is messed up.
You don't have necessary modules for the program to work with.
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This app worked for me:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.pruss.superdim
5% low battery no brightness adjustment
This is absolutely bs! I really can't stand samsung for doing this the only thing that I would say that puts samsung a downfall. I tried to do the same thing and rooted or not makes no difference. My guess is that it must be custom rom med or at least hack the binary and system to customize. Example remove enabled 5% lowest brightness from the system and identifying what the name of the file of system thats corsing the problem.
worked for me!
Wow you are my saviour. I've been having a problem with my battery showing a fualty value after rooting my galaxy tab 4 with stock ROM and kernel. My battery always reads 1% even though I charged it not too long ago. I can finally use my device again! Thanks so much!
Thanks Vlad2277
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There's no actual way to override low power at 5%
It's built-in android.
If you really need backlight, get app in market, called adjbrightness, that's one word.
It can override brightness to any percentage you details yourself, it actually guess from 0-255, but it won't Activate auto brightness, since that blocked by android due to low power.
So just use that apply if you really need more light on screen till next charge cycle.
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This works great on rooted Galaxy Note 4 with stock rom. I'm using a zerolemon battery on it and it stays at 1% for hours. Finally a way around the screen dimming issue. Thank you.
I'm so relieved just to discover at least ONE person disturbed by this one most absolitely damming function
If coming from op1 or any other flagship device?
SO far, none. The OPO was the best phone I ever owned. I just got the OPT and after 24 hours it has amazed me. Some glitches here and there but nothing a software OTA cannot fix.
None. Certainly not with all the development going on here already. I'll enjoy the heck out of my phone.
My gripes since I had to buy on swappa.com, as I ordered on 9/1 and still don't have the actual phone.
1) Exchange only through Gmail. Poor implementation.
2) Can't see battery as percentage. Prefer time in middle on top.
3) slider notification should be reversed
4) no stock Gallery app (only accessible through photo app)
The phone is beautiful but let's be honest here, it is a buggy mess!
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My gripes once I had to buy on swappa.com, since I ordered on 9/1 and still don't have the actual phone.
1) Exchange only through Gmail. Poor implementation.
2) Can't see battery as percentage. Prefer time in middle on top.
3) slider notification should be reversed
4) no stock Gallery app (only accessible through photo app)
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Well to be honest, point 1 & 2 are the same for stock Android. What do you mean with 3 exactly?
And actually, you can change the battery as percentage. Head to Settings > Battery and tap the battery icon next to the menu icon. It gives you inter alia an option to show percentage.
#3 would be the physical notifications slider on the left.
Thanks for the battery percentage heads up.
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#3 would be the physical notifications slider on the left.
Thanks for the battery percentage heads up.
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In my opinion the placement is perfect, also for the other buttons. That's personal preference of course. You're welcome by the way.
My stock messaging app doesn't consolidate my conversations properly. It creates to separate threads for one conversation, it shows one thread for what I text and a separate thread for my friend's responses??? Does anyone know how to fix this so the "back and forth" is in one thread?
Currently the OPT has a big failure that may force me to sell it. My contacts are only synced with 'mobile' to my car radio. So I am forced to choose of 6 'mobile' numbers from a list of only ONE mobile number of my wife. Not really a big bug but a total fail for me because I daily call my wife from the car while driving home. This is the one feature that really has to work but it does not.
With the ONE all works as you could expect. The Parrot Asterroid syncs without a fail and offers me the numbers correctly tagged with 'mobile', 'work', 'home' and so on. The TWO fails on this. So not really my phone atm.
no regrets. just little bugs that need to be addressed. fingerprint scanner works perfect for me also
Guys, there's no benefit to lying. The fingerprint sensor is not 100% and sometimes doesn't even respond.
stu5797 said:
Guys, there's no benefit to lying. The fingerprint sensor is not 100% and sometimes doesn't even respond.
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I agree. I've reset my fingerprints to the way I hold the phone usually. It's still hit or miss. If i've just been using the phone, it works. If I leave the phone to sit for some time, i need to use the power button to wake it, then the sensor works.
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Guys, there's no benefit to lying. The fingerprint sensor is not 100% and sometimes doesn't even respond.
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I agree. I've reset my fingerprints to the way I hold the phone usually. It's still hit or miss. If i've just been using the phone, it works. If I leave the phone to sit for some time, i need to use the power button to wake it, then the sensor works.
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You guys are definitely using the latest version of Oxygen OS? I don't have the phone yet...
stu5797 said:
Guys, there's no benefit to lying. The fingerprint sensor is not 100% and sometimes doesn't even respond.
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Mine works fine as long as I don't wake the device before scanning, if I do it doesn't respond for some reason lol. Software issue though, I'm sure they'll fix it soon.
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For e, battery is a big disappointment so far. I hope with custom ROMs and kernels battery life should improve. Other than that, pretty much satisfied. However, does not feel like much of an upgrade over the one.
Battery is a big one for me as well, but I know future releases will solve that. The other thing would be heat. In 10mins of having the screen on, it jumps from ~26 degrees (where it idles) to ~40 degrees.
I'm surprised about the battery complaints. It's been really good for me. I can easily get 5-6 hours sot. Today I'm at 1hr 18mins sot with 78% battery left and exactly 14 hours since I unplugged it from the charger. Maybe I'm just lucky
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I'm coming from a nexus 6 and you can really tell the difference between the screens the op2 looks washed out compared to the QHD screen on the nexus but apart from that I love it but I will still go for a moto x style.
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very happy with it. Fingerprint scanner works 100% for me, much better than the crappy one of my previous s6 edge.
Only complaint is contact sharing with my car bluetooth makes the car system crashes......
So guys, was wondering if you use ambient display and if you do have you done tests for the difference in battery life?
I use it, the amount of battery that it uses is negligible.
Never works for me. Always turns on in the dark when laid on table idle. Never bothered to look into fixing because it's not a necessity for me.
Don't use or require for my usage...
I have it switched on, but it really doesn't matter, once I pick the phone up, I switch it on.
It drains a lot
Does it? How much?
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Does it? How much?
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No it really doesn't.
I use it. Battery drain is very low. Anyway I wish it was more accurate. The screen turn on every time I put it on the table and sometimes when I take it, it should be the opposed.
I feel with native notification light, ambient display is kinda redundant.
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Heisenberg said:
I use it, the amount of battery that it uses is negligible.
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Hmm interesting I've been going on a little bit of a wake lock crackdown lately and ambient display adds another wake lock....... Didn't know if it would destroy battery....... Haha
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Hmm interesting I've been going on a little bit of a wake lock crackdown lately and ambient display adds another wake lock....... Didn't know if it would destroy battery....... Haha
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In my usage in a 12 hour period, my phone is only awake for less than half an hour when I'm not actually using it.
I don't. I find it annoying personally. I like setting the brightness manually via the drop down menu to exactly where I want it when I need to.
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I don't. I find it annoying personally. I like setting the brightness manually via the drop down menu to exactly where I want it when I need to.
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I think you're thinking of adaptive brightness, not ambient display, two different things.
Nope. I found it comes on way too often, whether I pick the phone up or not. I use double tap to wake, so I just double tap the screen when I need it on
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No it really doesn't.
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I know. I had to call out the statement.
Heisenberg said:
I think you're thinking of adaptive brightness, not ambient display, two different things.
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LOL yes.....thank you H!
I do use ambient display. I find it a very simple yet extremely convenient feature.
I would if it worked properly. It's just so inconsistent. Sometimes I pick it up and nothing. Other times it works. Just very inconsistent.
tu3218 said:
I would if it worked properly. It's just so inconsistent. Sometimes I pick it up and nothing. Other times it works. Just very inconsistent.
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100% agree. It would be a great feature, if it actually worked as intended. But since it's so inconsistent it's more of just an annoying gimmick. I turn Ambient Display off first thing whenever I flash a new ROM.
It's a shame to see that Ambient Display isn't working for some people, it works perfectly for me, every time. I receive a notification, it triggers. I pick my phone up into an upright position, it triggers.