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Hi all!
I'm currently an LG G4 user but I'm really disappointed of this device because of it's poor battery life...
Before having the G4 I had the Mate 7. I loved its fingerprint sensor and its huge battery.
I want to know if it's easy to get 5-7 hrs of SoT with the OpT and if its camera and fingerprint sensor worth getting the device?
Btw I'm planning getting a MarshMallow Rom (for the fingerprint sensor API integration on Android 6.0), is the battery life OK?
Concerning the overheat issue is it solved?
As far as I could read, the SkyDragon Rom is quite well made and even with OOS 2.x.x combined with Boeffla's kernel gives good results... But as I'm looking for a MarshMallow rom I'd like to have reviews about the SkyDragon Rom (any compatible Kernel or setting giving good battery life? Same questions for CM13)
Waiting for your replies!
TheBledard

hey there, well the fingerprint sensor is really good not just a gimmic much better then locking your phone with a code/patten, so useful for simply unlocking and locking the phone.
About battery life i mean well on skydragon with boeffal's kernel and a good battery saving profile you cab get really good results some others even getting 7-8 SoT!
But realistically on any MarshMallow ROM your only gonna push 5 hours SoT max.
I've tried pretty much every ROM and combo with kernels ect, i'm currently using the Offical Exodus ROM 6.0.1, for me at least its just awesome lovely user experience very very fast and just all round a brilliant and stable ROM and updated lots.
But as for battery life i get 4 to 4 and a half hours SoT on average a fue times had over 5 hour but thats using the phone very little, i get through the day on one charge 80% of the time and thats good enough for me.
Hope this helps a little let me know if theres any other questions you have.

So guys, in your opinion, which is the best Nougat ROM with the best battery life?

Been very excited about the awesome work the devs are pulling off. Just thinking which one to flash!
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1chrome said:
Been very excited about the awesome work the devs are pulling off. Just thinking which one to flash!
Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
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Beanstalk Rom has the best Battery life

1chrome said:
Been very excited about the awesome work the devs are pulling off. Just thinking which one to flash!
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Battery life depends on so many facts, I already explained this in other forums. You can't compare battery life between different types of usage. So it's to you to test with your own UNIQUE usage behavior & apps+network different roms to find your own.
For example: heavy users(draining battery within 24 hours) don't care about wake locks or Alarms, but people who let their device for hours laying on the desk does

strongst said:
Battery life depends on so many facts, I already explained this in other forums. You can't compare battery life between different types of usage. So it's to you to test with your own UNIQUE usage behavior & apps+network different roms to find your own.
For example: heavy users(draining battery within 24 hours) don't care about wake locks or Alarms, but people who let their device for hours laying on the desk does
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That's absolutely true.
I'm more of the kind of guy who leaves the phone idle a lot. I would love a ROM which doesn't drain battery on idle.
Since I use Greenify and also don't frequently keep my data on either, I'm expecting good battery which I unfortunately don't get on my Nougat stock (it drains about 5 - 8% on idle, which seems bad for me atleast).
Agreed - it's not the final build and all but since there's no Xposed or a custom kernel available, I'm kinda stuck with stock.
I don't wanna downgrade either for the sake of battery as I simply love what Google had done with Nougat!
That's why I am considering a custom ROM [emoji12]
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1chrome said:
That's absolutely true.
I'm more of the kind of guy who leaves the phone idle a lot. I would love a ROM which doesn't drain battery on idle.
Since I use Greenify and also don't frequently keep my data on either, I'm expecting good battery which I unfortunately don't get on my Nougat stock (it drains about 5 - 8% on idle, which seems bad for me atleast).
Agreed - it's not the final build and all but since there's no Xposed or a custom kernel available, I'm kinda stuck with stock.
I don't wanna downgrade either for the sake of battery as I simply love what Google had done with Nougat!
That's why I am considering a custom ROM [emoji12]
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The unofficial nougat is quite good, as I'm also have similar usage behavior and the idle drain is OK. I don't use greenify and amplify anymore cause doze in nougat works even better then introduced in MM where I used it to get better behavior even with doze.

This is what happened when I replaced Nexus 5X battery with a new one

Tired of getting 2h30 SOT (plugging off power at 7 am and needing to plug on again at 2 pm) I decided to spend a few bucks on a new battery. I own a nexus 5x for 10 months, so I thought maybe battery has been underperforming.
I've ordered also the needed tools so I could do the job myself. Very easy by the way.
I was excited to see how the brand new battery would perform the next day. So I plugged off power at 7 am and 2 pm I needed to plug back on power (2h30 sot). YEAH, I HAD NO IMPROVE AT ALL with a new battery.
Maybe it's that I have too many apps (100 at about), but I'm not the one who lives with whatsapp only.
So in order to relieve the pain of not getting through out the day I've bought an S7 edge and now I can settle down so I know I will get past through the day. I dislike many things on S7, like the crap fingerprint sensor and the inconsistent physical home button, but I'll try to live with it. My next bet would be the Xperia XZ, so I'm still considering.
So it was an unburden, but I feel I can help someone out with this experience.

Have you tried a third rom or ex kernel?

im kinda in the same boat. just received my 2nd replacement battery today... gonna see how the battery compares tomorrow with stock unrooted. if no change i'll be trying purenexus + elementalx with Hawktail 1.2 profile.... such a struggle with this phone........

I don't know about you, but my typical work day I range from 6-7 hours with around 3.5 SoT average. That's pretty okay, given how low our batteries are for this phone. I use SimpleAOSP + Franco kernel.
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I deal with it by having a 10000 mAh battery bank handy in my work bag or car.
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I know.
Since I have updated to Nougat, I have only 2 to 3 SOT. Also with franco kernel or elemtalx no improvement, no matter which profile.
Marchmallow was better with the battery performance.
I will try pure nexus with custom kernel (franco or elementalx).
I'm also wondering why the Android operating system has such a big battery consumption according to "betterbatterystats".
Otherwise always it was the google services.

zzy11 said:
Have you tried a third rom or ex kernel?
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I've tried ElementalX Kernel and ex kernel also. I've not noticed any improvement.
seromba said:
im kinda in the same boat. just received my 2nd replacement battery today... gonna see how the battery compares tomorrow with stock unrooted. if no change i'll be trying purenexus + elementalx with Hawktail 1.2 profile.... such a struggle with this phone........
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Did your 2nd battery replacement make any progress?
soap94 said:
I know.
Since I have updated to Nougat, I have only 2 to 3 SOT. Also with franco kernel or elemtalx no improvement, no matter which profile.
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Exactly what happened to me. No matter which profile I had a sensation that they were all the same in terms of performance and battery life.

My battery life is pretty good. I get about 5 hrs SOT a day. Device is 9 months old.

icrunchbanger said:
My battery life is pretty good. I get about 5 hrs SOT a day. Device is 9 months old.
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A few questions
Which time do you plug off and on to power again? I mean, how many hours do you stay off the wall outlet?
How many apps do you have installed?
Do you use antes app/kernel for the purpose off extending battery life?
Thanks!

quera said:
A few questions
Which time do you plug off and on to power again? I mean, how many hours do you stay off the wall outlet?
How many apps do you have installed?
Do you use antes app/kernel for the purpose off extending battery life?
Thanks!
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Mostly every night. Sometimes it gets me to 2 days of battery life. Im pretty heavy user
I have about 50 apps but i am very careful about apps i install and use. When i am at home on wifi all day it gets me 6-7 hrs SOT. I used most of the kernels i found on the XDA but now i am settled with minimalistic ABC rom with implemented DU kernel.

quera said:
I've tried ElementalX Kernel and ex kernel also. I've not noticed any improvement.
Did your 2nd battery replacement make any progress?
Exactly what happened to me. No matter which profile I had a sensation that they were all the same in terms of performance and battery life.
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at first i was getting the same results but i've made some major improvements by using airplane mode when at work with wifi, greenifying almost all of my apps, removing Fitbit sync/notifications, and using the greenify manual hiberate now widget. getting over 2hrs of SoT now but it's still nowhere near the results I've seen from others using PureNexus Rom + ElementalX kernel (Hawktail 1.2 profile)

The battery of my Nexus 5x (not rooted) seemed to be nearly dead. Smartphone shut down at 50%, and sometimes the battery went down from 80% to 30% within a minute. Then suddenly the mainboard of my Nexus died. The mainboard was replaced and Android was resetted. After this the battery works as if it's a new battery.

quera said:
Tired of getting 2h30 SOT (plugging off power at 7 am and needing to plug on again at 2 pm) I decided to spend a few bucks on a new battery. I own a nexus 5x for 10 months, so I thought maybe battery has been underperforming.
I've ordered also the needed tools so I could do the job myself. Very easy by the way.
I was excited to see how the brand new battery would perform the next day. So I plugged off power at 7 am and 2 pm I needed to plug back on power (2h30 sot). YEAH, I HAD NO IMPROVE AT ALL with a new battery.
Maybe it's that I have too many apps (100 at about), but I'm not the one who lives with whatsapp only.
So in order to relieve the pain of not getting through out the day I've bought an S7 edge and now I can settle down so I know I will get past through the day. I dislike many things on S7, like the crap fingerprint sensor and the inconsistent physical home button, but I'll try to live with it. My next bet would be the Xperia XZ, so I'm still considering.
So it was an unburden, but I feel I can help someone out with this experience.
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I dont really know what you do in order to get less than 3h SOT, or what brightness you run your device on, or what apps you have installed, or if you have NFC, location, Bluetooth or LTE turned on all the time, but on this phone it is the usage that determines battery life. I got a new Nexus 5x with an old battery and had the same results. Ordered a new battery for about 10$ and got arround 5-5:30 h of SOT with the same usage over arround 43 h of stand by withouth charging in between on full stock. You might want to check whata draining your battery or maybe you are a multitasker that streams music, types on FB, browses instagram all at the same time while the screen is on 40% brightness.

For me 5x battery sucks, i want to get 6p soon, but price is a little bit too high now so i must wait some time to buy.
Im using Jolla kernel now, with small cluster -> 3cores, 1,2GHZ and big cluster -> 2 core 768MHz max.All on zzmove. Battery is now improved, some times big cluster shuts off sometimes it's working, but performance is good for dialy use. Multitasking is fine, chrome web browsing also. ~ 4h 20mins of SOT, previously ~ 3h.
So i think NOW battery is really good for my 1yr old phone.

ROM and kernel are inconsequential to battery life in comparison to normal factors such as usage, settings and signal. Without reducing performance or functionality (GAPs) the most you could hope for is +10-20%, if even that.
Low screen time doesn't mean your battery life is bad as that's just one form of measuring battery life. If you do a lot of messaging and phone calls for instance you will never have long screen time as you need to actively be using the screen in order to increase SoT. If SoT is your only measure of battery life then you don't understand how it works.
I regularly see 5-6 hours SoT over 24+ hours without root or disabling much, as I use my phone for mostly browsing and streaming.
Post some screenshots in our Battery Thread and I will take a look. Replacing hardware should be the last option for improving battery life.

I think it's not about the battery, rom, kernel, settings, installed apps....
I think......it's only about the device
I tried EVERYTHING. changed battery, all android versions, tried without google account, kernels, profiles, custom roms, interactive settings, I don't even use many apps
my device has abnormal consumption. period.
I have 3 friends with n5x that do more than 4 hrs of screen on
mine does 2. and I can do nothing. it's just this
I don't know if warranty could cover such thing, it would be hard to detect on RMA since is very user related

throcker said:
I think it's not about the battery, rom, kernel, settings, installed apps....
I think......it's only about the device
I tried EVERYTHING. changed battery, all android versions, tried without google account, kernels, profiles, custom roms, interactive settings, I don't even use many apps
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You make me feel relieved. It must be the device. I've spent many bucks on S7 edge but I still prefer 5X ...

quera said:
You make me feel relieved. It must be the device. I've spent many bucks on S7 edge but I still prefer 5X ...
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Use Greenify to kill some apps that work in background. If you are Facebook /Messenger user, to maximise the battery life uninstall them and use alternative one like the lite version of these. "Naptime" for aggressive doze. Greenify and Naptime gave to my phone nice battery life.... From 100% - 2% I have 4:15 - 4:30 SOT . All stock 7.1.2

AFK269 said:
Use Greenify to kill some apps that work in background. If you are Facebook /Messenger user, to maximise the battery life uninstall them and use alternative one like the lite version of these. "Naptime" for aggressive doze. Greenify and Naptime gave to my phone nice battery life.... From 100% - 2% I have 4:15 - 4:30 SOT . All stock 7.1.2
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dude....there's no hope for us....it's just like that....no app help....
it drains by itself
we can just try to see if is related to the production date....download "lg phone from", free on play store
mine was manufactured in 07/06/2016

throcker said:
dude....there's no hope for us....it's just like that....no app help....
it drains by itself
we can just try to see if is related to the production date....download "lg phone from", free on play store
mine was manufactured in 07/06/2016
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Mine is 27/10/2015

Which is more stable, and best battery life?

Lineage OS, AOSP, or Stock Android?

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Lineage OS, AOSP, or Stock Android?
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I have no personal experience with Lineage but I was never a fan of Cyanogenmod and have read multiple posts that suggest it's pretty buggy. Stock will depend on which version of Android you are talking about. All versions of stock are pretty stable. Marshmallow is outdated but some people prefer it to Nougat because it gets better battery life than Nougat and works with Xposed. Nougat gets the latest features and security updates but for some reason Google has been pushing the default kernel settings very high recently so people have been experiencing poor battery life and the operating system itself eating up much more battery than in the past. AOSP would depend on the Rom you are running. I use Dirty Unicorns which is extremely stable and has better battery life than stock. Some Aosp Roms are more buggy and may provide better or worse battery life than stock depending on how they are programmed. There are also stock based Roms like Cortex, which adds Pixel features and gets the best battery life of any Rom I've been on. But the downside of a stock based Rom is that there is no OMS support for Substratum theming. My personal preference is for Dirty Unicorns but different people like different Roms.

I went to dirty unicorns and to me it's is faster than stock ROM cortex. I also like DU because it is oms and that is very important to me. Also having nav bar button customization is a plus. I would only jump back to stock if aosp takes to long to release

Stock is always most stable and allows for instant, effortless updates when available.
In terms of battery life, varies on your usage, I've had battery life that I would expect from a 3450 mAh phone.
You would see people buy a 6P and then start installing ROMs hours after and claim to get better/phenomenal battery life. Funny thing is that they have no idea what baseline is -_-
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richii0207 said:
Stock is always most stable and allows for instant, effortless updates when available.
In terms of battery life, varies on your usage, I've had battery life that I would expect from a 3450 mAh phone.
You would see people buy a 6P and then start installing ROMs hours after and claim to get better/phenomenal battery life. Funny thing is that they have no idea what baseline is -_-
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I went from Cortex to stock 7.1.2 for several days because I wanted to try stock again. The drop off in battery life was extremely noticable. People have also noted that on recent builds of stock if you look at the battery stats Android operating system and screen are eating up much more battery than they used to.
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I went to dirty unicorns and to me it's is faster than stock ROM cortex. I also like DU because it is oms and that is very important to me. Also having nav bar button customization is a plus. I would only jump back to stock if aosp takes to long to release
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I didn't notice DU being any faster but I do like OMS support. There always seem to be problems with Substratum if you don't have it.

Bro, Chads uber obviously is the best. It is on clang 5.0.0 and is extremely fast and stable and I get up to 8 hours sot and weeks on standby. Also I built wakeblock for uber so I can block wakelocks to save even more battery.

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Hello,
All ROMs should be stable. Stock is bloated, using a custom ROM helps getting ride of all the unnecessary stuff running in the background. Depending on your usage, battery life will fluctuate.
I only browse, send SMS/MMS, take pictures, videos and watch youtube with my phone. Mostly over WiFi. Don't have social network apps syncing in the background all the time. Yeah, i get 7 hours sot...
But, i guess the same with 3G/4G + Facebook + WhatsApp, etc... And I would be down to 3 hours sot obviously...
Don't let people decide for you which ROM is the best, because there is none. The best ROM is the one you like. These guys put a lot of time and effort to release their ROM. Some more than others, but still, saying this or this ROM is the best is kind of dumb and also insulting to other developers.
If there was a "best" ROM, the forum would only have one. Because everybody would use it. Or there is a best ROM and in this case those using the others are completely blind to see the truth?
Lol...
Check the forum and decide by yourself. Some are stock based, others aosp, lightweight or filled with a lot of options and customization.
Takes a few minutes to setup and if you don't like one, switch to another...
Happy flashing.
Cheers...

DEVILOPS 007 said:
Bro, Chads uber obviously is the best. It is on clang 5.0.0 and is extremely fast and stable and I get up to 8 hours sot and weeks on standby. Also I built wakeblock for uber so I can block wakelocks to save even more battery.
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You can get 8 hrs SOT with any rom, including stock, given the proper usage.
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You can get 8 hrs SOT with any rom, including stock, given the proper usage.
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Not really with sot. It depends highly on the rom and kernel.

Battery life

I just got a LeEco Pro 3 (US version) on Amazon, put on lineage 14.1 on it, and for a device with such a big battery, battery life is atrocious. I'm getting estimates of less then a day. Is there a kernel or ROM that will improve this?
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I have had Pro 3 for one year, running 6.01 with Nova Launcher. Battery life is not nearly one day in my heavy usage.
But, have Le Eco Fast Charging Battery, which gives me constant juice.
I probably use 2 full charges a day.
How hard is it to flash ROM you are using? Stable? Difference with stock?
The chip is fast, good storage, RAM.
Good luck.
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PloniAlmoni said:
I just got a LeEco Pro 3 (US version) on Amazon, put on lineage 14.1 on it, and for a device with such a big battery, battery life is atrocious. I'm getting estimates of less then a day. Is there a kernel or ROM that will improve this?
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I had the same problem with that rom that's why I switched to Omni. Much better battery life.

cas8180 said:
I had the same problem with that rom that's why I switched to Omni. Much better battery life.
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Is Omni still under development? I kind of want the October patch at least, as I use an open wifi portal and also want to use my bluetooth full time for my smartwatch, and live in a major urban area where if any exploits of these vulnerabilities is in the wild, they would be here.
Edit: looks like it is under active development, I spotted right away the KRANK patches: https://omni.cmxlog.com/7.1/zl1/

Sorry to say but for battery life Stock based ROMs are the best. I've found paranoid Android and Omni to be two of the better nougaty ROMs in that regard. I have some suggestions to help. Use kernel auditor to change parameters. Set first cluster to 1280 second to 1000. Schedule tasks on awake cores. Set GPU to 520 max and change governor to simple ondemand. Change io scheduler to Noop. I can get a day and a half of moderate usage.

I have an x722 on the Banggood vendor ROM and my battery life is pretty good. However I have my phone in Airplane Mode all the time with Wi-Fi enabled, and I've removed pretty much all LeEco applications. I mostly browse the web on the phone (very light text-based pages with few images, if any) while listening to local, offline music. Yesterday I was watching a bunch of 480p Youtube videos (in Chrome, stupid YT downgrades quality in mobile browsers) and my battery life got a bit low, around 70%. Okay, I guess. I think [email protected] YT would cause your battery to drain a lot quicker, especially if you're using the official YT app.
I keep my screen on a fair bit while commuting, but I don't use data; I just read offline pages. Maybe you should try going back to debloated stock, and then compare battery life on both ROMs. The issue could also be a rogue app. Use Greenify.

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I have an x722 on the Banggood vendor ROM and my battery life is pretty good. However I have my phone in Airplane Mode all the time with Wi-Fi enabled, and I've removed pretty much all LeEco applications. I mostly browse the web on the phone (very light text-based pages with few images, if any) while listening to local, offline music. Yesterday I was watching a bunch of 480p Youtube videos (in Chrome, stupid YT downgrades quality in mobile browsers) and my battery life got a bit low, around 70%. Okay, I guess. I think [email protected] YT would cause your battery to drain a lot quicker, especially if you're using the official YT app.
I keep my screen on a fair bit while commuting, but I don't use data; I just read offline pages. Maybe you should try going back to debloated stock, and then compare battery life on both ROMs. The issue could also be a rogue app. Use Greenify.
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If I turned off cell data I'd have amazing battery life on any phone. That's why you have such battery life...
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Well, yeah. Any phone with a SIM in it is constantly searching for a signal. But if you really want to know if there's a significant difference, test the phone's battery life with just Wifi enabled. If you're still getting bad battery life, it's something else.

sk8223 said:
Well, yeah. Any phone with a SIM in it is constantly searching for a signal. But if you really want to know if there's a significant difference, test the phone's battery life with just Wifi enabled. If you're still getting bad battery life, it's something else.
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I think it was the ROM I was using, LineageOS 14.1, using the new Paranoid Android Nougut (PA 7.3.x something) ROM, I'm getting two days of battery life.

PloniAlmoni said:
I think it was the ROM I was using, LineageOS 14.1, using the new Paranoid Android Nougut (PA 7.3.x something) ROM, I'm getting two days of battery life.
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Same here my findings exactly!

I appreciate all Lineage is doing for ROM development, but it seems others have better kernels or something. Is it all in the kernel, do you think, or is there some battery optimization going on in the ROMs themselves?

People try to say that custom roms aren't as good as stock. I have been having nothing but stellar battery life on Paranoid 7.3.1 I can't much more than 6 1/2 hours and counting with extremely heavy usage. Was also taking photos all day

Man I envy you guys so much, I own the x727 model and I'm eager to flash a custom ROM on it but I don't know how and am mostly afraid to do it :'c

cas8180 said:
People try to say that custom roms aren't as good as stock. I have been having nothing but stellar battery life on Paranoid 7.3.1 I can't much more than 6 1/2 hours and counting with extremely heavy usage. Was also taking photos all day
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I think your eyes are screaming with minimal brightness. Only just for record. Light browsing maybe only seen on...

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I think your eyes are screaming with minimal brightness. Only just for record. Light browsing maybe only seen on...
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Ok

Is there any bug on latest Paranoid android ? I'm planning to flash this when it comes 2 days battery life like you said b4

Reduce CPU usage, use Kernel Adiutor app, set max not 2140 Mhz, but 1400 Mhz, etc, I did this on my old phone 4.2 android and I usually had 1 week usage with 2500 mAh battery.
I still don't get what is little and BIG setting for CPUs.. I set them both lower.

rudolph323 said:
Reduce CPU usage, use Kernel Adiutor app, set max not 2140 Mhz, but 1400 Mhz, etc, I did this on my old phone 4.2 android and I usually had 1 week usage with 2500 mAh battery.
I still don't get what is little and BIG setting for CPUs.. I set them both lower.
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Yes you are right, lower the max of CPU speed, normal 80-90% app run at not even 1000MHz. If you want more battery lower both BIg and LIttle core max speed down I can't see it mak ethe phone slow/lag or anything like that.

cas8180 said:
People try to say that custom roms aren't as good as stock. I have been having nothing but stellar battery life on Paranoid 7.3.1 I can't much more than 6 1/2 hours and counting with extremely heavy usage. Was also taking photos all day
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How has your screen only consumed 1k mAh ? I'm on stock rom and my phone consumes close to 2400 on a full charge