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[Poll] Best battery life contest

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You can see some things in the BattClock area:
4.0g means "4 giorni", that is four days of battery life since last battery swap
[email protected] means 195 minutes of "CPU time", since last battery swap
143£ means 143 minutes of display time since last battery swap
Alas, I have no easy way to track phonecall time since battery swap, if someone knows a registry keys that does that I'd appreciate (there's none under HKLM\System\Uptime).
Some facts: I own a total of 4 batteries for this device, the one currently inside the phone is the original one that came with it, the other three are chinese clones which stand on their own feet not bad at all.
I run the batteries to at least 10%, never lower than 5%, before swapping them with the next one (I have them numbered) to even the cycles.
In this run I had a normal work routine use: probably total 30 minutes of calls, regular use of calendar, database, phonebook, data transfer and synchs with PC, some pictures, under 1hour of manga reading, today I've been playing around with new ringtones, alarm every morning, phone and radio always on.
Display backlight is set to the minimum necessary to comfortably read the screen, I use Lumos, and I am during almost all the time inside a building.
So even if I pay attention to reduce battery drain the most, I still "use" it all the time.
As a comparison, in continuous video playback I get about 4hrs of Frasier episodes, listening with headphones.
What's the best you've got form this device?

I can sqeeze 3 days, but its down to 3-4% thats with txting internet playing games

how do you get it to show mA ?

as said in first post, I use battclock
@OrionCarl
not bad with that kind of usage I rarely connect to the internet

ephestione said:
as said in first post, I use battclock
@OrionCarl
not bad with that kind of usage I rarely connect to the internet
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yeah, im happy with that!dont understand how people can only last a day!
I have to connect, cant go without my weather updates!

hah!
Well I cannot manage to get rid of sense, because without it there would be no way to have a quicklinks set like CHT's. Otherwise I'd save 60MB worth of ram, and some battery drain as well

Hi,
Ciao,
whit your stock Rom and Radio, how long did your battery?
con la tua Rom originale, quanto durava la batteria?
Thanks
Grazie

You mean the original stock rom? It's been ages that I started using AxLor roms, and the original rom was on when I was still learning to use this phone, so I did a lot more things than I do now and drained more power. As far as I can remember anyway, should have been 2 days. Newer radios improved the battery life notably, 2.12 and especially 2.14

LOL we've got three aliens living on mars
well u shouldn't be using an HD2

My thoughts exactly
Anyway I'm running fine this time as well, with my second battery, the first chinese I bought.
I have 39% battery left, and 2.9days runtime on my back, so it's another 4day-er for me
That fourth option was actually a troll-trap, since achieving more than 4days (on a normal 1230mAh battery that is) is impossible unless leaving the phone in standby is almost all you do... and in that case owning an HD2 is a waste of money

My battery can hold my HD2 on his feets for 4-5 days.
This was a whole different story before!
I got my HD2 from my brother, the reason why he gave it to me was because he hated it because of the worst battery life.
He had to charge it every single day.
When I got it from him, I had the same problem.
I charged it in the night, and in the begin of the evening, I had to charge it again, when I didn't even used it so much!
Later I bricked my HTC HD2 (not with upset ofc) with the HSPL things.
It went for repair, and when I got it back... the battery lives for 4-5 days.
Of course it depends on the use ofcourse, but right now, I update my weather and Twitter every 2-3 hours, and I txt sometimes, and sometimes a call, and I use my camera time to time.
With this use... it can live for like 4 days.
And if I would use it even less, then it would live for 5 days, maybe more...
I don't know what they did with the HD2 at the repair, but I know they did an awesome job!
And no... they didn't gave me other batteries, ccoz they werent sended to repair either.
In my opinion, the low battery life for the other people, is a hardware problem, somewhere in the motherboard maybe? a battery leak.
It's also not a battery problem.

You might as well turn off your phone. I dont see the point in having a smartphone where you use it like a dumbphone. If that's the case, just sell your HD2 and get a Nokia 6230...those could last for weeks.
I get about 50hrs (2days) of heavy usage out of my HD2. That's good enough for me.

OrionCarl said:
yeah, im happy with that!dont understand how people can only last a day!
I have to connect, cant go without my weather updates!
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we actually use our phones....
lude219 said:
You might as well turn off your phone. I dont see the point in having a smartphone where you use it like a dumbphone. If that's the case, just sell your HD2 and get a Nokia 6230...those could last for weeks.
I get about 50hrs (2days) of heavy usage out of my HD2. That's good enough for me.
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yeah, I don't buy that either. With heavy usage you are not going to get 2 days. Just my screen being on (50% brightness) watching tv shows I can get about 4 hours. Considering that is about 300mah, that sounds right. That is heavy usage, screen on, video playing, or internet or game playing. Unless you put your screen at 20% brightness, which once again, begs the question, what is the point of having a smartphone if you turn it so far down you can barely see the screen?
I have a charger in the car, 2 chargers stashed at work, several at home. I have yet to buy a second battery like I did with my tp2, but if I ever decided I needed more juice, that would be the plan.

For those whose battery life is over 24hrs, I'd be interesting in seeing their usage stats. For example, battclock will provide times for how long the screen is on and how long the phone is idle for.
Those numbers would be useful to go along with the battery life to accurately show just how much the phone is used.

I agree as in buying the HD2 means you plan to give some sense (pardon the pun, it's not intended ) to all its power, and not using it just as you would do with a low end Nokia.
Anyway that doesn't mean you plan to use all that power constantly. I do watch TV shows on my phone, that's when I'm on the public means, and 4hrs is the best I can get. I also do read manga, and the big screen helps. Yet even if I'm not stressing the snapdragon, I find useful the good camera, the GPS, the big screen, the possibility to check my mail without needing a PC, even if I don't do all those things everyday.
On a side note, before the HD2, I was using a dualsim phone (which did just the phone), a coolpix camera, and an ipaq. With all these things inside the same device now, I get to 4 days, while I couldn't get 4 days out of my dualsim alone before.
In reply to @joshoon, I think that they just upgraded the radio firmware..., for me chaging radios has gone a long way battery-wise in the past

ephestione said:
I agree as in buying the HD2 means you plan to give some sense (pardon the pun, it's not intended ) to all its power, and not using it just as you would do with a low end Nokia.
Anyway that doesn't mean you plan to use all that power constantly. I do watch TV shows on my phone, that's when I'm on the public means, and 4hrs is the best I can get. I also do read manga, and the big screen helps. Yet even if I'm not stressing the snapdragon, I find useful the good camera, the GPS, the big screen, the possibility to check my mail without needing a PC, even if I don't do all those things everyday.
On a side note, before the HD2, I was using a dualsim phone (which did just the phone), a coolpix camera, and an ipaq. With all these things inside the same device now, I get to 4 days, while I couldn't get 4 days out of my dualsim alone before.
In reply to @joshoon, I think that they just upgraded the radio firmware..., for me chaging radios has gone a long way battery-wise in the past
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I putten the same radio on it again.
And few days ago I updated my ROM with the new ROM upgrade from HTC, so the radio either.
And still got awesome battery life.
And if someone wants to see numbers... sure, just explain me what program I need and what to do exacly, and I show u guys.

joshoon said:
I putten the same radio on it again.
And few days ago I updated my ROM with the new ROM upgrade from HTC, so the radio either.
And still got awesome battery life.
And if someone wants to see numbers... sure, just explain me what program I need and what to do exacly, and I show u guys.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612083
add the timers from the registry keys HKLM\system\uptime, they are the ones ending in Session (clock, cpu and screen), value in seconds, set a divider to get the value in minutes/hours/days

ephestione said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612083
add the timers from the registry keys HKLM\system\uptime, they are the ones ending in Session (clock, cpu and screen), value in seconds, set a divider to get the value in minutes/hours/days
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Heyz,
My battery is now on %12 after a few days (only had it one time on USB to put some music on it for 5-10 min).
I usually charge my HD2 when it's 10%, but on 10% it can live for one more day either.
Clock: 126717 (probably 12m, 65h, 61d?
CPU: 1999 (probably 19m, 9h, 9d?)
Screen is not there btw.
I used my phone pretty often last days.
But it wasnt 61 days?

that's in seconds, silly
Divide by 60 for minutes, by 3600 for hours, and by 86400 for days, which mean you had almost 1.5 days.
"Clock" is time since last reboot
"ClockSession" is since last battery change... so if you never swap batteries like I do but just charge it, you should avoid rebooting the device before charging, or there is no way to accurately measure battery life.

ephestione said:
that's in seconds, silly :d
divide by 60 for minutes, by 3600 for hours, and by 86400 for days, which mean you had almost 1.5 days.
"clock" is time since last reboot
"clocksession" is since last battery change... So if you never swap batteries like i do but just charge it, you should avoid rebooting the device before charging, or there is no way to accurately measure battery life.
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Im charging my hd2 right now, so how can I show you guys about my battery life now?

Stuck at 100%?

My battery is stuck at 100% and won't go down. Normally I'm not complaining about battery life in this way, but this is really weird. I'm running Paradigm by the way.

Fully charge your battery, then wipe your battery stats in CWM. If that doesn't work, then it's probably an issue with the ROM.
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That didn't help, so I flashed the euroskank cm10 nightly, and I still have the issue. Ahhhh. I don't want to have more issues with this tablet. Any other recommendations?

Go back to completely stock and see if it works. Then you'll at least know if it's software related.
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I'm now stock unrooted, all set up. I'll run stock for now until the new Paradigm hits. Then, I'll try rerooting. If I run into this issue again on stock then I'll call Google, and probably just return it. I don't really want a third one. BTW, when it happened, recovery would also show 100% as a reading, but would usually go down to 99% after a while, and then when I rebooted, it would discharge at a normal rate, but would never compensate for the weird extra time at 100%. Does this point to a software or hardware issue?

Is it plugged in?

Lol no. It says discharging, 100%. But my screen was on for 31 min, and it said that and I'm pretty sure the n7 isn't rated for 30+ hrs screen on time.

Amphibliam said:
I'm now stock unrooted, all set up. I'll run stock for now until the new Paradigm hits. Then, I'll try rerooting. If I run into this issue again on stock then I'll call Google, and probably just return it. I don't really want a third one. BTW, when it happened, recovery would also show 100% as a reading, but would usually go down to 99% after a while, and then when I rebooted, it would discharge at a normal rate, but would never compensate for the weird extra time at 100%. Does this point to a software or hardware issue?
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how long was it at 100%? its normal for it not to drop from 100% over a period of time, battery life is that good. heres a screenie from my n7 from yesterday..
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simms22 said:
how long was it at 100%? its normal for it not to drop from 100% over a period of time, battery life is that good. heres a screenie from my n7 from yesterday..
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I'm fairly sure 6+ hours with the battery still at 100% is not normal, unless it was asleep the entire time.
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just lou said:
I'm fairly sure 6+ hours with the battery still at 100% is not normal, unless it was asleep the entire time.
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majority of the time, i was busy at work. but, ive seen and some other people have seen 2+ hours at 100% with use. so, depending how long hes been watching it drop, it might be normal. especially since he said he saw it drop in recovery then drop after he booted up.

As I said earlier, battery was at 100% for 31 minutes of SCREEN ON. Then I rebooted, cleared caches, hung around in recovery for 5-10 min, saw it hit 99%, rebooted, and system said 99%. Like I said, that would mean I could get 30 HOURS of screen on time. NO WAY is that possible.

Amphibliam said:
As I said earlier, battery was at 100% for 31 minutes of SCREEN ON. Then I rebooted, cleared caches, hung around in recovery for 5-10 min, saw it hit 99%, rebooted, and system said 99%. Like I said, that would mean I could get 30 HOURS of screen on time. NO WAY is that possible.
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that doesnt mean that you would get 31 hours. what you just described is normal and youre freaking out for nothing.

Maybe you have a super battery saving kernel try just to run it flat, then do a charge while the device is off

Amphibliam said:
As I said earlier, battery was at 100% for 31 minutes of SCREEN ON. Then I rebooted, cleared caches, hung around in recovery for 5-10 min, saw it hit 99%, rebooted, and system said 99%. Like I said, that would mean I could get 30 HOURS of screen on time. NO WAY is that possible.
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my first day with the n7.. happy now? i ended up getting over 7 hours screen on time. you cant extrapolate 30 hours from it that way like you were doing.

This happened to me too.
After taking it off the charger it wouldn't go down. Now keep in mind my case I had left it overnight and hadn't played with it so I had at least a day in my battery info on 100%. Rebooted, then tried factory reset, all the normal stuff to try and nothing. Then tried CWM wiped everything then even reflashed the ROM and tried a different kernel after going back to complete stock it started decharging finally but now dies at 20%. It just turns off doesnt even shut down, and when it finally gets enough juice to start it would flash a little text message in the upper left "show low low battery logo". I finally managed after flashing CM10 then back to stock and charging and decharging a few times and deleting batterystats.bin from data and pulling the charger while it was booting to get it to realize there was an inbetween 0 and 17% and it sat charging for a while on 0, where it had just jumped straight to 18 but is now charging up normally again, that is where I am at.
I've got like 3 days left on my exchange with GameStop and I'm back and forth whether I should just take it back because I don't have any of this screen lift banter every talks about but don't want to end up with a faulty battery because it only just started here like last week.

People, the nexus 7's battery is not that good that it can go for hours without dropping 1%!!!
It could be that there is a problem with the battery indicator. That could be hardware or software.

tomb20 said:
People, the nexus 7's battery is not that good that it can go for hours without dropping 1%!!!
It could be that there is a problem with the battery indicator. That could be hardware or software.
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say that in the trinity kernel thread, i bet just about everyone in that thread will disagree with you.

simms22 said:
say that in the trinity kernel thread, i bet just about everyone in that thread will disagree with you.
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Even with the best kernel available.
Your saying that a 7" LCD can be turned on for hours without a 4325 mAh battery losing 1%!!!
And that's without system, apps etc running.

tomb20 said:
Even with the best kernel available.
Your saying that a 7" LCD can be turned on for hours without a 4325 mAh battery losing 1%!!!
And that's without system, apps etc running.
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yup. remember, theres no 3G/4G radio sucking the battery juice dry.

Well, flash all stock, and watch the battery meter.
Flash a custom rom with stock kernel and watch the battery meter.
Flash a custom rom and a custom kernel and watch the battery meter, what do you get?
FYI, look at the screen on and total time at 50% battery, i bet you won't have double those time by time you hit 1% either.
You can't look at the first 30 minutes and go crazy over it. That's as bad as watching wakelocks and going crazy over wakelocks before you have an issue, wakelocks are normal and needed.
Stop obsessing, enjoy the tablet.

New firmware update USA model

What's new:
Improved camera UI
That's it. No other improvements. The update is 150mb in size, so i am hoping there would be behind the scenes bug fixing. Especially hoping it would fix the wifi sleep battery drain issue. Will update this thread in a couple of days on my findings.
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Update: I can confirm that this update does not fix the wifi/sleep issue. Went to bed at 10pm and checked the tablet at 6am. Lost 12% battery. Battery Usage tells me the tablet was awake the whole time and did not go to sleep mode. This is really bad compared to my S8+ which only loses 3% battery overnight.
Still the fix would be to switch off wifi before going to bed and the tablet will only lose 1 to 2% of its battery.

This one lost 5% over sleep but that's still a lot. I'm testing an old Asus Nexus 7 for the hell of it (it hadn't been turned on for 4 years and literally two days ago updated it to 5.1 and just left it to see if the battery would hold). The Nexus 7 is beating the S3 so far. Also have an iPad to compare and that thing can stay in standby for a month solid.
I'm just going to turn it off when not in use, waiting a minute for bootup (plus fingerprint so no having to fiddle with pw screen) isn't a huge deal to me.

Yeah it's annoying that Samsung can't get it right, even after more than a year with several devices running on the SD820 platform. I just don't get how my pixel, with nearly the same hardware, is so much smoother and more battery efficient. /rant
Anyways, I just have WiFi set to turn off when the screen is off. I only charge it once every 4-5 days with light to moderate usage

Idiots are probably not aware of the issue. WTF is there no theme store?? Getting tired of this SAMMY BS.

Download LInk?
Does anyone have a link so I can Download the latest update? Or do I need to remove root and then update in the traditional way? (I would prefer to have a file I can flash in Odin)
your help is appreciated.
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bimmerboii said:
Update: I can confirm that this update does not fix the wifi/sleep issue. Went to bed at 10pm and checked the tablet at 6am. Lost 12% battery. Battery Usage tells me the tablet was awake the whole time and did not go to sleep mode. This is really bad compared to my S8+ which only loses 3% battery overnight.
Still the fix would be to switch off wifi before going to bed and the tablet will only lose 1 to 2% of its battery.
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FYI - I have a case I keep my tablet in. WHile in the case, I didn't use the tablet for two weeks. Busy having fun with new S8+) anyway, I still have over 50% of my battery remaining. When I open the case, the screen comes on very quickly. It appears that being in the case has helped to put this thing to sleep and I guess that puts battery drain down to about that 2% to 3% your S8+ gets.

Geekser said:
Does anyone have a link so I can Download the latest update? Or do I need to remove root and then update in the traditional way? (I would prefer to have a file I can flash in Odin)
your help is appreciated.
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FYI - I have a case I keep my tablet in. WHile in the case, I didn't use the tablet for two weeks. Busy having fun with new S8+) anyway, I still have over 50% of my battery remaining. When I open the case, the screen comes on very quickly. It appears that being in the case has helped to put this thing to sleep and I guess that puts battery drain down to about that 2% to 3% your S8+ gets.
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Remove root and go back to stock if you want ota update.
You should be able to find the firmware on sammobile.com.
I also have a case on mine with the screen on off function but still the tablet doesn't go to sleep.
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bimmerboii said:
Remove root and go back to stock if you want ota update.
You should be able to find the firmware on sammobile.com.
I also have a case on mine with the screen on off function but still the tablet doesn't go to sleep.
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Sammobile doesnt have the firmware for XAR which I beleive is the US. I saw a link previously for the old firmware somewhere to samsung firmware - but when I search that site, I can't find the new update. I will try other options.
thanks

Everyone seems to be using the tablet for light duty thus far.
I'm going to chime in and add that I'll be using it for CPU intensive apps. Re: SoundCamp, FL Studio, and other heavy tasks. Don't think this will live up to "12 hour run time" that everyone's oohing and awwing over XD
I wound up getting the battery to about 13% and turned on "battery saver" for the day. It was supposed to last 23 hours. When the work day was over (about 16 hours by the time I got home) it was off. Figured it was worth testing time to complete-off from full charge. No idea when it actually turned off, but the system isn't optimized for this so-called battery saver mode either. Every other device I've owned with this feature has had accurate results (sometimes more), but not here.

Thinking of returning mine coz of the wifi bug and going back to my s2.

undertaker2k14 said:
Thinking of returning mine coz of the wifi bug and going back to my s2.
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What kind of bug? Lost connection? I have this issue on mine s3
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The battery drain bug thats been referred to in many places here. Not sure if and when it will be fixed.
The older S2 doesn't have this problem and it seems like the Exynos 5433 with it's 8 standard ARM cores as opposed to Qualcomm's custom 4 cores in 820 (though theoretically faster) handle Touchwiz better with less UI jankiness since both run Nougat 7.0 now.

There is a a ADQC firmware out for a lot of countries including UK, trying that one to see if the Wifi bug is fixed. Why do they delay the US version so much is beyond me? Same story with the S2 firmwares, went to the Germany/Singapore version since US receives firmware updates last, even though there are no carrier delays for the Wifi only versions.

This firmware resolves the issue: http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=1D0F4E90377111E7963AFA163EE8F90B ! Confirmed 0% drain over 3 hours on standby would have def lost at least 2-3 % by now.
Look for BTU firmware T820XXU1AQDC if the link expires.

Does anyone not charge their tab overnight? That negates all of this *****ing. Then it is at 100% when you wake up. Win win for all.

acdcking12 said:
Does anyone not charge their tab overnight? That negates all of this *****ing. Then it is at 100% when you wake up. Win win for all.
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I charge on the weekends. I use the tab to take notes for work during the week.
Currently, I have tasker turn off wifi when the screen is off. I have updated, so I'll try without tasker.

I take my earlier comment back, aqdc still has the wifi drain bug, very annoying. Also, the new ipad pro makes this look like a joke. We need an 8895 in this tab not useless qualcomm chips.

undertaker2k14 said:
The battery drain bug thats been referred to in many places here. Not sure if and when it will be fixed.
The older S2 doesn't have this problem and it seems like the Exynos 5433 with it's 8 standard ARM cores as opposed to Qualcomm's custom 4 cores in 820 (though theoretically faster) handle Touchwiz better with less UI jankiness since both run Nougat 7.0 now.
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I have a EU LTE Tab S3. It's connected to Wi-Fi continually when I'm home. I lose 2-3% when the tablet's sleeping overnight. I didn't know there was a Wi-Fi bug until I saw this thread. But I do have a Netgear R9000 which is a beast of a router. Is there any commonality to the Wi-Fi drain problem? I don't remember which Samsung phone it was but one had a big problem with D-Link routers specifically.

acdcking12 said:
Does anyone not charge their tab overnight? That negates all of this *****ing. Then it is at 100% when you wake up. Win win for all.
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So it's now referred to as "*****ing" when people are noticing a very clear obvious issue with a device and would like to see it fixed. Amazing. Maybe for the S4 they can just not put speakers on it and we can all be considered "*****ing" because we should all just use headphones?
Anyway......completely ridiculous that there are constantly issues with these things. I TRY to switch away from iPad constantly and there is just not an Android tablet on the market that is in the same ballpark and at this point I doubt there ever will be. I've lost 8% of battery life today already and the thing has been on for like 2 and a half hours, and of that time I've probably spent like 5 minutes actually using it. The rest of the time it's just been sitting there, screen off. Pathetic. An iPad would still be at 100%, MAYBE 99%.

Please report the wifi issue here to pressure samsung for a fix :
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Tablets/tab-S3-wifi-power-drain-bug/m-p/123511#M5427

14H Squeezed out of my S7

With a combination of Amplify, Greenify, BootManager, PowerNap, LSpeed, and TinySU
I managed to Achieve this amazing battery life.
I will try to share my settings ASAP.
(Keep in mind I was on lowest brightness)
I'm on a US SM-G930T (SD820).
Usually when I leave my phone in my pocket battery goes down as if I'm using it, but it managed to pull through.

KillerClaw321 said:
With a combination of Amplify, Greenify, BootManager, PowerNap, LSpeed, and TinySU
I managed to Achieve this amazing battery life.
I will try to share my settings ASAP.
I'm on a US SM-G930T (SD820).
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Its not sot. Sot is showed where is the word "screen". Sot = Screen-on time

KillerClaw321 said:
With a combination of Amplify, Greenify, BootManager, PowerNap, LSpeed, and TinySU
I managed to Achieve this amazing battery life.
I will try to share my settings ASAP.
I'm on a US SM-G930T (SD820).
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damn son what

KillerClaw321 said:
With a combination of Amplify, Greenify, BootManager, PowerNap, LSpeed, and TinySU
I managed to Achieve this amazing battery life.
I will try to share my settings ASAP.
I'm on a US SM-G930T (SD820).
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That's not good battery life at all, 14 hours TOTAL, not SoT
SoT was only 22% of that, so around 3 hours maybe

I think I have good battery life.
See pics.
always wifi on, bt on, location on and data on.
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Sent from my SM-G930F using XDA-Developers Legacy app

I have an S7 Unlocked US model. There's no 'carrier' bloatware thank god. But I am pretty sure Samsung makes up for it by adding their own. Before I ran three debloat scripts on this thing, there were about 325 apps installed on it. I would HATE to see the additional amount of crap a carrier would add to that.
So after flashing the three scripts, I got down to about 150 (include my apps probably about 165). That's beyond absurd and this type of 'bloat' should be illegal. Samsung, among the other manufacturers and carriers, are literally scamming everyone out of hundreds, if not thousands of dollars by doing this. I have a Motorola Droid Razr M XT907 (Verizon) originally running KitKat. It's been rooted forever. I recently paid Sunshine to unlock the bootloader and I flashed Lineage 13 to it (Marshmallow). It's manufacturer date was 2014. Life span of 1 1/2 years max. I increased it by 5 more at least. If this thing can handle even Nougat (tried that too), then this S7 can run a nuclear generator, but won't because of the crap on it. Bottom line: If they ever say you need a new phone because it's slow, they're scamming you.

Here's my settlement after 24 hours of rooting, debloating, tweaking and optimizing my G930U
- Flashed fresh, stock firmware: Marshmallow 6.0.1, first release, G930UUEU4API3
- Was FINALLY able to gain and hold root by following the steps located in the first section of this thread.
- After that I installed an UPDATED version of FlashFire via ADB.
- I opened FlashFire. Until you disable KNOX, SuperSU will be VERY slow to prompt you with the pop-up to grant root access to FlashFire (maybe a minute or so). Once access is granted, you can debloat and disable KNOX. This is the only root required app I installed at this point.
- In section two of the same thread, I downloaded and added the second .zip file, S7_or_S7Edge_Fixes_Debloater_V15.zip to internal storage (sdcard) and flashed it using FlashFire. I also downloaded this .zip, added it to internal storage and flashed it. I also went here and did the same with this .zip. (KNOX is disabled in the first flash so at this point SuperSU will function normally).
- IF YOU DO NOT DISABLE KNOX COMPLETELY YOU WILL LOSE ROOT!! Flash ALL 3 .zips to ensure KNOX is disabled!!
- I then disabled any other apps and or services I deemed fit and that suit my needs. If anyone wants me to I can compile a list of what I left installed.
- Installed Xposed following the 3rd step in the thread I linked twice already.
- Downloaded and installed HEBF - Battery Saver & Optimizer, selected a medium profile for Battery and medium for performance.
The difference is almost instant. On top of all the bloat, I can't believe how much battery this drains because of it.

Also AppOps <3

Dam i get 2 days and about 3h sot, brightness automatic wifi on celluar on, and im on original firmware no root. it holds so great man battery life is ****ing awesome with s7

Ranop11 said:
Dam i get 2 days and about 3h sot, brightness automatic wifi on celluar on, and im on original firmware no root. it holds so great man battery life is ****ing awesome with s7
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Not debloated? I don't believe that.

DragonFire1024 said:
Not debloated? I don't believe that.
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Check the battery stats thread, 2 days with 3 hours SoT is easy, also depends what you were doing with your phone while the screen was on, if not much, like WhatsApp or something low powered, then you can get way more than that
atm Samsung have caused a battery drain bug with the last 2-3 updates, but before that I was averaging 5-6 hours SoT easily, and could easily get 2 days usage from one charge

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Check the battery stats thread, 2 days with 3 hours SoT is easy, also depends what you were doing with your phone while the screen was on, if not much, like WhatsApp or something low powered, then you can get way more than that
atm Samsung have caused a battery drain bug with the last 2-3 updates, but before that I was averaging 5-6 hours SoT easily, and could easily get 2 days usage from one charge
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With being on unlocked firmware, without the carrier bloat, There were 330+ samsung apps on this thing. I was lucky to get 5-6+ hours on a full charge and it would feel like it was going to melt while using it. I got it down to about 135-140 apps. if you include the ones I downloaded, 161 apps. Installed HEBF battery optimizer and it runs as smooth as possible. I probably could get as much of a charge out of it now. Prior to that? I don't see that being remotely possible. There were too many apps doing too many things at almost a constant level. So i find it very very hard to believe someone got 2 days on a full charge with 330+ apps running in the background. It just isn't possible.

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With being on unlocked firmware, without the carrier bloat, There were 330+ samsung apps on this thing. I was lucky to get 5-6+ hours on a full charge and it would feel like it was going to melt while using it. I got it down to about 135-140 apps. if you include the ones I downloaded, 161 apps. Installed HEBF battery optimizer and it runs as smooth as possible. I probably could get as much of a charge out of it now. Prior to that? I don't see that being remotely possible. There were too many apps doing too many things at almost a constant level. So i find it very very hard to believe someone got 2 days on a full charge with 330+ apps running in the background. It just isn't possible.
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Just because your phone was a lemon for battery life does not mean everyone elses is, go read the battery stats thread and see for yourself, most people get 5 hours+ SoT without resorting to debloating
5-6 hours on a full charge is diabolical, no-one in their right mind would accept that as normal, that's about the SoT you should be getting with the phone in constant use, not entire battery life
And next to none of those apps you removed use any power in the background, there were 2 that used about 10% too much battery for my liking, OM Customise and KNOX, I disabled them and easily got 5-6 hours SoT, at a push I could get more with lighter usage
So don't make statements like "It just isn't possible", you don't own everyone's phone, you can only speak from your own, it is entirely possible and is easily accomplished with a normal non-defective S7

Moto X pure battery problems

Im sorry if I do something wrong, I'm new at this. I have had my mxp for a while now and I never got great battery life but recently it has been terrible, when I unplug it I lose 5% in a couple minutes without even using it! I updated to Android 7.0 to see if that would help at all sadly it hasn't. I also turned wifi and Bluetooth scanning off and location is on battery saver. I haven't gotten 2 hours of sot in forever even with lite use, I swear I'm always plugged in. I included screenshots of my battery usage from an average day, is there anything I can do to fix/help it?
Thank you for your time
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If you have poor standby time, and you have root you can try better battery stats. It should help you nail down if your phone isn't getting into deep sleep, and what is keeping it awake. Without root you can still get a feel for how much the device is awake by looking at the details you get when you touch the trend in Settings -> Battery.
You could try booting into safe mode and seeing if your battery life improves. That will disable everything but system apps. Do it by long pressing Power Off after holding the power button to bring up the power menu. It won't tell you what app is the problem, but it will let you know if you have a rogue app you installed causing battery drain.

Sorry but the images are broken!

jason2678 said:
If you have poor standby time, and you have root you can try better battery stats. It should help you nail down if your phone isn't getting into deep sleep, and what is keeping it awake. Without root you can still get a feel for how much the device is awake by looking at the details you get when you touch the trend in Settings -> Battery.
You could try booting into safe mode and seeing if your battery life improves. That will disable everything but system apps. Do it by long pressing Power Off after holding the power button to bring up the power menu. It won't tell you what app is the problem, but it will let you know if you have a rogue app you installed causing battery drain.
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My phone was at 48% and I restarted it and it turned back on with 5% battery any idea how that can happen? I rebooted it again to see if it was a mistake but came up as 4% I wish I could include the screenshot but I'm too new I guess.

Your battery is failing. Theres nothing other than a battery replacement.

Dylanburns said:
My phone was at 48% and I restarted it and it turned back on with 5% battery any idea how that can happen? I rebooted it again to see if it was a mistake but came up as 4% I wish I could include the screenshot but I'm too new I guess.
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My phone started doing this almost 4 month ago, when i updated to nougat. Normaly for me the problem is with the battery meter but not the battery. That means that the phone still have 46% and if you use it you will see the battery get stuck at 4%. Just don't restart your phone. Also after charging your phone power it off and on, if you see a jump in battery just keep charging and repeat the process until there is no change! There is a big chance that also your battery is almost dead but if you not add screenshots of your use there is no much more we can do for you!

I posted it in an other topic with simillar topic , it might be useful :
I had this weird problem with my battery too! MXPE on stock nougat , as soon as I charged my phone to 100% and plug out it used to drop below 80 in 2 minutes ! and then when the percentage hit ~20% It used to turn off showing that white screen you mentioned, however when I plugged the phone in it would start charging at ~15% ! so I tried recalibrating my battery and it is surprisingly effective !
here is the method:
1) drain your phone battery until it shuts down.
2)power it on again and you will see that white battery low picture. plug the charger for 3 or more seconds and out, it will boot up again but as soon as the Rom boots up the phone will die again . do it multiple times.
3)charge the phone while it is off until 100%. turn it on and drain the battery as fast as possible (max brightness, volume, streaming videos on cellular data and running benchmarks will do ) till the phone dies again.
4) repeat (2)
5) charge the phone up to 100% while it is off ! and there you go your battery is recalibrated and good to go!
Obviously, this will shorten the batteries lifespan but since I believe you have it for a long time It won't be an important matter!

NahuelMS said:
My phone started doing this almost 4 month ago, when i updated to nougat. Normaly for me the problem is with the battery meter but not the battery. That means that the phone still have 46% and if you use it you will see the battery get stuck at 4%. Just don't restart your phone. Also after charging your phone power it off and on, if you see a jump in battery just keep charging and repeat the process until there is no change! There is a big chance that also your battery is almost dead but if you not add screenshots of your use there is no much more we can do for you!
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Can you see these images?

Yes, it seems that your battery es dead. You can try one last thing if you want. Try to use the phone in safe mode and check how much Screen on time you got. To enter safe mode press the power button until the power off prompt appear. Then maintan the turn off pressed and the device will reboot to safe mode.

Better battery stats will work fine with non rooted phones you just have to run some commands in adb.

NahuelMS said:
Yes, it seems that your battery es dead. You can try one last thing if you want. Try to use the phone in safe mode and check how much Screen on time you got. To enter safe mode press the power button until the power off prompt appear. Then maintan the turn off pressed and the device will reboot to safe mode.
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I tried safe mode and battery still drains super fast. What is Motorola's policy on replacing batteries or is there not one?

Dylanburns said:
I tried safe mode and battery still drains super fast. What is Motorola's policy on replacing batteries or is there not one?
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If the phone is under warranty they must replace your battery. If the phone isn't then you have to ask and see what happens and how much they will charge you.
Also it is not dificult to do it yourself. You will need a really good T4 screw driver, a heatgun, doble sided tape or a sticker to put the back agin. Finally a good battery replacement. You can search in the section for battery replacement and search youtube for tutorials. Good Luck with that!

Battery is now consistently dieing around 30 percent now, I think it's time for a new phone sadly.

Nearly a month now that battery dying at around 25-30% and hardly see the battery saver mode anymore. Also SOT hardly gets more then 1.5 hours so i think my battery life time is gone too.

Update: Strange behaviour today. After nearly a full charge got a auto power off some minutes after and when opened again it has gone directly at 3%
Will give it a try with a normal charger just to make sure the problem isnt with the turbo one!

Any suggestions for a replacement for my MXP? I'm looking at the $300 price range and headphone jack is a must!

Onward is the only way forward.
Dylanburns said:
Any suggestions for a replacement for my MXP? I'm looking at the $300 price range and headphone jack is a must!
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Moto X Pure Edition... 64GB edition . HTCs from that time period are said to be good all-around as well, but run even more expensive than the Pure Edition already does (and it seems to be holding its value somewhat better than expected). Personally, if my Pure Edition doesn't pull through, then I might just find another one, but the Nexus 6 has been a decent temporary replacement (aside from that screen).

Dylanburns said:
Any suggestions for a replacement for my MXP? I'm looking at the $300 price range and headphone jack is a must!
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Moto G5 Plus or G5S Plus... Or Honor 7x
To be honest, these are the only phones in the $200-$300 price range I would look at right now... Either will increase battery life 2-4 times, include SD card support, have a traditional headphone jack, and at least as much horsepower. Most other things like camera is a wash, the main drawback of any of these is they do not have NFC and sound quality can be a bit lacking, but few phones under $300 do with similar features.
A budget alternative (under $200) is the ZTE Axon 7 Mini at $169.99 from B&H Photo, it is an extremely under-rated device and although it is pushing just over a year old, it's features are hard to deny for the price, including NFC and truly amazing sound quality from both headphones and the stereo speakers. When this phone released it was $300.
TBH though, if I had to buy a device today and I had $200~$250 available... It would be the Honor 7x. Even pushing $350 to near $400, I would still go this route but once you hit $400 the choices I would make change a bit.

acejavelin said:
Moto G5 Plus or G5S Plus... Or Honor 7x
To be honest, these are the only phones in the $200-$300 price range I would look at right now... Either will increase battery life 2-4 times, include SD card support, have a traditional headphone jack, and at least as much horsepower. Most other things like camera is a wash, the main drawback of any of these is they do not have NFC and sound quality can be a bit lacking, but few phones under $300 do with similar features.
A budget alternative (under $200) is the ZTE Axon 7 Mini at $169.99 from B&H Photo, it is an extremely under-rated device and although it is pushing just over a year old, it's features are hard to deny for the price, including NFC and truly amazing sound quality from both headphones and the stereo speakers. When this phone released it was $300.
TBH though, if I had to buy a device today and I had $200~$250 available... It would be the Honor 7x. Even pushing $350 to near $400, I would still go this route but once you hit $400 the choices I would make change a bit.
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I have been looking at the Honor 7x and seems like a good phone, do you think the LG V20 is worth the extra 120$ over the 7x?

Dylanburns said:
I have been looking at the Honor 7x and seems like a good phone, do you think the LG V20 is worth the extra 120$ over the 7x?
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Honestly... I haven't liked LG devices since the G2 when I had a bad experience with it, but many people do like them... My issue here would be your paying ~$320 for a phone that is 15 months old, there isn't much argument about it's capabilities, most people like it. I would hop over to the XDA group for that device and read up some of the threads over the last view months and see what kind of issues people have been having, just silently skim for a bit and you will get a better feel for the device. On the good side it has a removable/replaceable battery, that would be a huge plus for this device. Your call on this one.
Personally, I just don't see the cost/benefit of most phones over $300 anymore... You can get a reasonable device for $200-$300 and in general to get much more you need to double or triple that amount now days but it isn't 2-3 times better.