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Is it possible to backup the entire phone (dont care about the data) on phones that arent rooted?
The apps I've seen (titanium looking best) all require root.
thanks
I am pretty sure that you can through kies for somethings. Also an app called app brain can sync your apps to a web based database so in the event of a factory wipe you restore apps.
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I have been using Astro file manager to back up my apps. Data though is not saved. No root is required
but what about backing up firmware?
Backing up files no problem.
Backing up apps, Google does that automatically if I'm not mistaken.
The problem I have is closer to the OP's post: I want to root my new phone, but need to back it up ENTIRELY before doing something as awful as rooting it it
Titanium backup (indeed looks like the best) and other similar whole-phone backup apps all need root ! But I need to backup before rooting !
Is there an app we can use to back up an unrooted phone, OR is there a way to use Titanium backup on an unrooted phone?
Using Sony Ericsson Xperia Pro MK16a Android 2.3.3
ps lurk skywalker tell me if you have found a solution since you've posted your question
Not entirely necessary to backup before rooting. If you are just flashing a stock kernel with root, as long as you do it correctly, nothing bad will happen.
I only do a backup before flashing ROMs as I always do a full wipe procedure first. The kernel I currently use has a built in total clean wipe, but I can do it the manual way rather quickly and prefer it.
Edit : I just saw you are using a sony, I know nothing about them, this is a Samsung forum.
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I have successfully rooted my device using the version 2.0.0 of the toolkit. I think I'm going to donate a few euros to get the latest, the author deserves all the money.
A few questions:
What exactly is CWM? What's the difference between a backup made with titanium backup and a backup made with CWM? Is it enough to backup the system settings or do I need to backup even the apps? I mean the list of installed and purchased apps should be always available on the Google play account, at least I hope so...
Should I download the latest version of CWM (the . IMG file) and flash it with the toolkit or should I use the integrated version that seems to be IN the toolkit?
Thanks in advance for the answers.
A CWM backup will backup everything. If you restore it, your device will be exactly the same as it was when the backup was made.
Titanium backup only backs up apps and their data
But with titanium backup do I need to backup all the or only their data?
Is CWM useful even to install other Roms?
Sorry for the confusion: I'm not an expert.
Clock work mod will backup your entire android build as it is. all data, apps, settings, contacts, messages. etc
Titanium will backup apps and their data only
If you bork your software or try another rom then decide you want to go back, a Cwm backup will take you right back to the exact point you made the backup
Titanium is useful to have when changing roms because after loading a new one you can load your previous apps & data into your new rom whereas Cwm would completely overwrite the rom
In essence they are similar but perform completely different tasks
Sent from my Nexus 7
With titanium I usually just backup all user apps with data (meaning anything you have downloaded that is not part of the rom)
You cannot flash a new rom with titanium. that is what Cwm is for
Cwm deals with the roms
Titanium deals with apps
CWM & Backup
nihil39 said:
I have successfully rooted my device using the version 2.0.0 of the toolkit. I think I'm going to donate a few euros to get the latest, the author deserves all the money.
A few questions:
What exactly is CWM? What's the difference between a backup made with titanium backup and a backup made with CWM? Is it enough to backup the system settings or do I need to backup even the apps? I mean the list of installed and purchased apps should be always available on the Google play account, at least I hope so...
Should I download the latest version of CWM (the . IMG file) and flash it with the toolkit or should I use the integrated version that seems to be IN the toolkit?
Thanks in advance for the answers.
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CWM is a recovery mod used for Flashing new rom while at the same time gives you handy things to do like, do a NANDROID- Creating a image for ur current rom and all its sys settings with apps and there data. U can also Flash other things like a previously created Update.zip for Titanium Backup, which is helpful after u have flashed a new rom and want all ur previous apps and data back.
A small thing a consider sharing, When Flashing a new ROM, Back up only the apps+data thing and not the System. As ur new ROM will have its own System settings (better to adjust it then than bfore). Now, also Create an update.zip, which a mentioned earlier from TitBckp Menu.
Have Fun.
bagofcrap24 said:
Clock work mod will backup your entire android build as it is. all data, apps, settings, contacts, messages. etc
Titanium will backup apps and their data only
If you bork your software or try another rom then decide you want to go back, a Cwm backup will take you right back to the exact point you made the backup
Titanium is useful to have when changing roms because after loading a new one you can load your previous apps & data into your new rom whereas Cwm would completely overwrite the rom
In essence they are similar but perform completely different tasks
Sent from my Nexus 7
With titanium I usually just backup all user apps with data (meaning anything you have downloaded that is not part of the rom)
You cannot flash a new rom with titanium. that is what Cwm is for
Cwm deals with the roms
Titanium deals with apps
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Thanks.
I still don't get the point of backing up apps. I mean: their settings (and system settings) ok but why backup something that can be downloaded again from google play store? I guess my account keeps record of my installed and (above all) purchased apps (tapatalk only). Am I wrong?
Other question:
I'm using the stock Jelly Bean 4.1.1 rooted and I don't want to mess with cooked roms whatsoever. I rooted the device in order to get USB on the go support and TiBackup.
Will I get updates from google or I will have to manually flash a rooted version of an updated Rom? I think I will have to install CWM at the end, I guess
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nihil39 said:
Thanks.
I still don't get the point of backing up apps. I mean: their settings (and system settings) ok but why backup something that can be downloaded again from google play store? I guess my account keeps record of my installed and (above all) purchased apps (tapatalk only). Am I wrong?
Other question:
I'm using the stock Jelly Bean 4.1.1 rooted and I don't want to mess with cooked roms whatsoever. I rooted the device in order to get USB on the go support and TiBackup.
Will I get updates from google or I will have to manually flash a rooted version of an updated Rom? I think I will have to install CWM at the end, I guess
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Please answer at least the last question...
nihil39 said:
Please answer at least the last question...
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Edit: If google release an update, you dont have to relock it
Jordanooo said:
If google release an update, i think you will have to relock your bootloader to get it officially.
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You do not have to lock your bootloader to get an update only reason to lock it is if you have to return it
Sent from my BAKED Nexus
spaceman860 said:
You do not have to lock your bootloader to get an update only reason to lock it is if you have to return it
Sent from my BAKED Nexus
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So, in my condition (rooted stock rom) will I get the official google updates without doing anything?
You will still get the updates but Cwm will not be able to install them.
You would need the stock recovery to apply ota updates
In reference to your previous question regarding titanium. You could re download the apps from play store after a wipe.
Titanium also restores any preferences you had saved. And in the case of games it will also restore your progress & game saves
Sent from my Nexus 7
Thanks, so there's no point in backing up the whole app, we only need its data and settings.
I haven't installed cwm yet. Did you use the toolkit downloadable from another thread in this forum? If yes, does the toolkit automatically download the latest version of cwm?
I'm not sure with the tooolkits
I have never rated them
It's much wiser to learn to do these things manually as it really doesn't take very much learning and it's always valuable to know what to do in case you bork something
Sent from my Nexus 7
Does cwm also backup sripts like link2sd and 2nd fat32 partition?
Ever since I rooted my phone it has been slowly getting glitchy and my battery life keeps dropping. I've been putting off the update because I'm not really knowledgeable about android in general and the tutorials seem kind of complicated. I just want to restore my phone to stock settings so my phone wont freeze at random times and I wont have messages pop up anymore. What the easiest way to go about deleting my twrp recovery so I can go back to stock? I don't really want to just update to a custom rom because I just want to restore my phone. Also I'd be great if there was a way to keep all my data in the process.
You would have to flash either the stock *.kdz or *.tot file to restore the phone to it's original condition, which in turn wipes everything on the phone including internal storage.
redduc900 said:
You would have to flash either the stock *.kdz or *.tot file to restore the phone to it's original condition, which in turn wipes everything on the phone including internal storage.
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Is there any way to backup the data on my phone and restore it once I've flashed one of those files?
KD2417 said:
Is there any way to backup the data on my phone and restore it once I've flashed one of those files?
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There's no way of doing that. Restoring your phone to stock wipes everything.
i will be handing over my work note 3, it is rooted, custom rom and kernel + twrp recovery
then buying same for personal use, providing i do full backup using twrp, can i then restore on new one (of course i will root and install same recovery ver first) ??
vadimo said:
i will be handing over my work note 3, it is rooted, custom rom and kernel + twrp recovery
then buying same for personal use, providing i do full backup using twrp, can i then restore on new one (of course i will root and install same recovery ver first) ??
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Be careful to untick the EFS partition before restoring. Just in case make a backup of EFS on the new phone before.
After restoring you will have to change the Android ID on the new phone. Use Titanium Backup to do it. If you will flash another rom on the old phone then its Android ID will change and you may leave the new phone as is.
That is all.
svbarbosa said:
Be careful to untick the EFS partition before restoring. Just in case make a backup of EFS on the new phone before.
After restoring you will have to change the Android ID on the new phone. Use Titanium Backup to do it. If you will flash another rom on the old phone then its Android ID will change and you may leave the new phone as is.
That is all.
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ahh ok... learning something new... thank you
- EFS, will do as you suggested
- Android ID? i will have to read on this one, i do have paid titanium backup ver. The phone, i will handing in back to employer and will just flash latest stock firmware/rom on it.
I think incase of problems i will make a backup of the apps using titanium, if i have to start from scratch, at least i have my apps to restore.
vadimo said:
ahh ok... learning something new... thank you
- EFS, will do as you suggested
- Android ID? i will have to read on this one, i do have paid titanium backup ver. The phone, i will handing in back to employer and will just flash latest stock firmware/rom on it.
I think incase of problems i will make a backup of the apps using titanium, if i have to start from scratch, at least i have my apps to restore.
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Android ID is a key generated when you clean install a rom used by Google and some apps to identify a phone.
If you will flash stock on your old phone don´t worry about it.
Anyway if you open Titanium menu you will see Your Device -> Manage Android ID.
Have fun.
svbarbosa said:
Android ID is a key generated when you clean install a rom used by Google and some apps to identify a phone.
If you will flash stock on your old phone don´t worry about it.
Anyway if you open Titanium menu you will see Your Device -> Manage Android ID.
Have fun.
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Thanks again
Please let us know if you succesfully restore the backup on the new phone. I believe it should be no problem but seriously I have no gut to do that
Rosli59564 said:
Please let us know if you succesfully restore the backup on the new phone. I believe it should be no problem but seriously I have no gut to do that
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i am not sure if i will do this now as i am getting random shutdowns and reboots every day or so, i thought it was because the ultimate kernel was unstable and changed to Compulsion Kernel and still get these issues.
So i will have to build from scratch new phone! Would of loved to just backup and restore, really cant be bothered mirroring all settings and apps again!
How do i go about restoring my rooted samsung s3, my phone has become extremely slow over time which i guess is understandable no update so on, is there anything that has to be done before i restore or can i simply just do it ? if i back up will it be fine to restore from that backup even though it was rooted also ?
G4ORCE3 said:
How do i go about restoring my rooted samsung s3, my phone has become extremely slow over time which i guess is understandable no update so on, is there anything that has to be done before i restore or can i simply just do it ? if i back up will it be fine to restore from that backup even though it was rooted also ?
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"Restore" to what level? Are you thinking factory reset and return to stock?
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vladimirhtg said:
"Restore" to what level? Are you thinking factory reset and return to stock?
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yeah like a factory reset
bump!
Galaxy S3?
If you want to return to factory settings the best way is to do it via recovery. You can do this regardless of whether you have the stock recovery or have flashed CWM/TWRP. Just be aware that factory reset in the stock recovery will erase your internal SD card so you need to backup anything on it you want to keep. I would also remove any external SD card you have installed to just to be safe.
If you have CWM/TWRP then a factory reset shouldn't erase your internal or external card. But in both cases you will lose any user data you have on the phone. So things like text messages and installed applications will be lost. I would suggest a backup with the likes of Titanium Backup or, even better, do a Nandroid backup if you have CWM/TWRP installed. You can then use an application like Nandroid Manager to restore any aspect of the backup you see fit afterwards.
And this really should have been posted in Q&A.
Do i clean install with odin. A clean install is always the best.
Btw you're in the wrong thread my friend
Yeah i realized i was in the wrong section after i posted it sorry, okay when you say recovery what do you mean? cant i just restore it through samsung kies ? and about the titanium backup....whats wrong with backing it up with samsung kies also? and i am not planning on rooting the device after i restore it so titanium backup wont work ?
G4ORCE3 said:
Yeah i realized i was in the wrong section after i posted it sorry, okay when you say recovery what do you mean? cant i just restore it through samsung kies ? and about the titanium backup....whats wrong with backing it up with samsung kies also? and i am not planning on rooting the device after i restore it so titanium backup wont work ?
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- If you do factory reset, the root still remains and you can restore apps using Titanium.
- If you restore all partitions, you will lost root and Titanium will not work anymore.
Ok, so i want to get rid of the root, i want to restore completely and update my device without having root at all, but i also want to be able to restore my old messages mail accounts ETC? what do i have to do to accomplish this...
G4ORCE3 said:
Ok, so i want to get rid of the root, i want to restore completely and update my device without having root at all, but i also want to be able to restore my old messages mail accounts ETC? what do i have to do to accomplish this...
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Make a backup with Kies 3.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
i only have the samsung galaxy s3 19305 i dont think it runs with samsung kies 3 ? and can i just restore it through Samsung kies?
G4ORCE3 said:
i only have the samsung galaxy s3 19305 i dont think it runs with samsung kies 3 ? and can i just restore it through Samsung kies?
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Sorry my mistake. Make a backup with Kies.
Okay thank you , then after that i need to reset binary counter and then restore with odin yes ?
Not sure about resetting binary counter, you can try if flashing via Odin is not success.
Download the stock firmware for your device and flash via Odin.