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[Q] From custom to stock again

So I haven't really used any custom ROMs due to the huge work needed after flashing one, I have too many apps installed and save games that I don't wish to lose.
Well I've decided to check out a few of the ROMs today and see which one I will like best, but I would first like to ask how I would back up my stock ROM is the first place. Now as far as I know you can do a nandroid backup using CWM and so I did that, it made a backup of my stock ROM along with data files off all the apps.
Now let's say I've been with this custom ROM for a few weeks and I'm sick of it, and I would like to return to the stock one. Can I restore stock by flashing CWM again, going to the backup menu and choose restore and then browse to the backup I made? Will it restore my stock ROM + data without problems?
Another thing I'm curious to know is, what's the best way to backup all of my apps along with their save games so that I can restore them to the custom ROM once I've flashed it? I've read about Titanium Backup but I do not see a "Select all" option, backup one after another would be a pain.
I hope I didnt confuse anyone with all these questions.

Use batch operation in TBackup
It allows u to backup n restore all apps+data
You can restore ur backup
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alkesh95 said:
Use batch operation in TBackup
It allows u to backup n restore all apps+data
You can restore ur backup
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Stupid me, how could I have not noticed that option. Thanks I have just started backing everything up, I suppose the correct option is "Backup all user apps + system data"?
As for the stock ROM backup, will it work as I said? I've read that CWM has bugs when it comes to restoring such nandroid backups. Also do I need to wipe cache and data before I can restore my stock nandroid backup?

Mitko said:
Stupid me, how could I have not noticed that option. Thanks I have just started backing everything up, I suppose the correct option is "Backup all user apps + system data"?
As for the stock ROM backup, will it work as I said? I've read that CWM has bugs when it comes to restoring such nandroid backups. Also do I need to wipe cache and data before I can restore my stock nandroid backup?
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1) Yes, its the correct option. It even backups save games and the entire data
2) It doesnt matter if you wipe data or not. But its fine if you dont do that. I dont wipe data at every nandroid restore and had no problems. Either way its the same, no need to worry about this. CWM backups wont restore or give some problems only when you restore a backup with different kernel. For restoring to work perfectly , the present kernel(before restore) and to be restored kernel must be the same.

hitme987 said:
1) Yes, its the correct option. It even backups save games and the entire data
2) It doesnt matter if you wipe data or not. But its fine if you dont do that. I dont wipe data at every nandroid restore and had no problems. Either way its the same, no need to worry about this. CWM backups wont restore or give some problems only when you restore a backup with different kernel. For restoring to work perfectly , the present kernel(before restore) and to be restored kernel must be the same.
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Great, thank you.
For now I have transfered all the files from my TitaniumBackup folder to my computer. I am planning on transferring them back to my SD card once the ROM flashing is complete. After I put the TitaniumBackup folder on my SD card, I install Titanium Backup again and it will read the backups right? Then all I do is choose the option to restore them all and it will work with no problems?
Sorry again for too much questions but I always like to be on the safe side when doing such things, :angel: I crapped my pants when I ended up with a bootloop on my old phone :laugh:

Mitko said:
Great, thank you.
For now I have transfered all the files from my TitaniumBackup folder to my computer. I am planning on transferring them back to my SD card once the ROM flashing is complete. After I put the TitaniumBackup folder on my SD card, I install Titanium Backup again and it will read the backups right? Then all I do is choose the option to restore them all and it will work with no problems?
Sorry again for too much questions but I always like to be on the safe side when doing such things, :angel: I crapped my pants when I ended up with a bootloop on my old phone :laugh:
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Yes, It will detect. Restoring should go fine

Thanks. I will let you know with results.
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Thanks it worked.

Good luck to your new custom ROM

emompong said:
Good luck to your new custom ROM
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Thanks I'm already enjoying it.

[Q] A few random questions about cwm, backup etc

I have successfully rooted my device using the version 2.0.0 of the toolkit. I think I'm going to donate a few euros to get the latest, the author deserves all the money.
A few questions:
What exactly is CWM? What's the difference between a backup made with titanium backup and a backup made with CWM? Is it enough to backup the system settings or do I need to backup even the apps? I mean the list of installed and purchased apps should be always available on the Google play account, at least I hope so...
Should I download the latest version of CWM (the . IMG file) and flash it with the toolkit or should I use the integrated version that seems to be IN the toolkit?
Thanks in advance for the answers.

A CWM backup will backup everything. If you restore it, your device will be exactly the same as it was when the backup was made.
Titanium backup only backs up apps and their data

But with titanium backup do I need to backup all the or only their data?
Is CWM useful even to install other Roms?
Sorry for the confusion: I'm not an expert.

Clock work mod will backup your entire android build as it is. all data, apps, settings, contacts, messages. etc
Titanium will backup apps and their data only
If you bork your software or try another rom then decide you want to go back, a Cwm backup will take you right back to the exact point you made the backup
Titanium is useful to have when changing roms because after loading a new one you can load your previous apps & data into your new rom whereas Cwm would completely overwrite the rom
In essence they are similar but perform completely different tasks
Sent from my Nexus 7
With titanium I usually just backup all user apps with data (meaning anything you have downloaded that is not part of the rom)
You cannot flash a new rom with titanium. that is what Cwm is for
Cwm deals with the roms
Titanium deals with apps

CWM & Backup
nihil39 said:
I have successfully rooted my device using the version 2.0.0 of the toolkit. I think I'm going to donate a few euros to get the latest, the author deserves all the money.
A few questions:
What exactly is CWM? What's the difference between a backup made with titanium backup and a backup made with CWM? Is it enough to backup the system settings or do I need to backup even the apps? I mean the list of installed and purchased apps should be always available on the Google play account, at least I hope so...
Should I download the latest version of CWM (the . IMG file) and flash it with the toolkit or should I use the integrated version that seems to be IN the toolkit?
Thanks in advance for the answers.
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CWM is a recovery mod used for Flashing new rom while at the same time gives you handy things to do like, do a NANDROID- Creating a image for ur current rom and all its sys settings with apps and there data. U can also Flash other things like a previously created Update.zip for Titanium Backup, which is helpful after u have flashed a new rom and want all ur previous apps and data back.
A small thing a consider sharing, When Flashing a new ROM, Back up only the apps+data thing and not the System. As ur new ROM will have its own System settings (better to adjust it then than bfore). Now, also Create an update.zip, which a mentioned earlier from TitBckp Menu.
Have Fun.

bagofcrap24 said:
Clock work mod will backup your entire android build as it is. all data, apps, settings, contacts, messages. etc
Titanium will backup apps and their data only
If you bork your software or try another rom then decide you want to go back, a Cwm backup will take you right back to the exact point you made the backup
Titanium is useful to have when changing roms because after loading a new one you can load your previous apps & data into your new rom whereas Cwm would completely overwrite the rom
In essence they are similar but perform completely different tasks
Sent from my Nexus 7
With titanium I usually just backup all user apps with data (meaning anything you have downloaded that is not part of the rom)
You cannot flash a new rom with titanium. that is what Cwm is for
Cwm deals with the roms
Titanium deals with apps
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Thanks.
I still don't get the point of backing up apps. I mean: their settings (and system settings) ok but why backup something that can be downloaded again from google play store? I guess my account keeps record of my installed and (above all) purchased apps (tapatalk only). Am I wrong?
Other question:
I'm using the stock Jelly Bean 4.1.1 rooted and I don't want to mess with cooked roms whatsoever. I rooted the device in order to get USB on the go support and TiBackup.
Will I get updates from google or I will have to manually flash a rooted version of an updated Rom? I think I will have to install CWM at the end, I guess

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nihil39 said:
Thanks.
I still don't get the point of backing up apps. I mean: their settings (and system settings) ok but why backup something that can be downloaded again from google play store? I guess my account keeps record of my installed and (above all) purchased apps (tapatalk only). Am I wrong?
Other question:
I'm using the stock Jelly Bean 4.1.1 rooted and I don't want to mess with cooked roms whatsoever. I rooted the device in order to get USB on the go support and TiBackup.
Will I get updates from google or I will have to manually flash a rooted version of an updated Rom? I think I will have to install CWM at the end, I guess
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Please answer at least the last question...

nihil39 said:
Please answer at least the last question...
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Edit: If google release an update, you dont have to relock it

Jordanooo said:
If google release an update, i think you will have to relock your bootloader to get it officially.
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You do not have to lock your bootloader to get an update only reason to lock it is if you have to return it
Sent from my BAKED Nexus

spaceman860 said:
You do not have to lock your bootloader to get an update only reason to lock it is if you have to return it
Sent from my BAKED Nexus
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So, in my condition (rooted stock rom) will I get the official google updates without doing anything?

You will still get the updates but Cwm will not be able to install them.
You would need the stock recovery to apply ota updates
In reference to your previous question regarding titanium. You could re download the apps from play store after a wipe.
Titanium also restores any preferences you had saved. And in the case of games it will also restore your progress & game saves
Sent from my Nexus 7

Thanks, so there's no point in backing up the whole app, we only need its data and settings.
I haven't installed cwm yet. Did you use the toolkit downloadable from another thread in this forum? If yes, does the toolkit automatically download the latest version of cwm?

I'm not sure with the tooolkits
I have never rated them
It's much wiser to learn to do these things manually as it really doesn't take very much learning and it's always valuable to know what to do in case you bork something
Sent from my Nexus 7

Does cwm also backup sripts like link2sd and 2nd fat32 partition?

[Q] Smooth Rom 4.4

Hi
As you've prob guessed I'm a noob, hence the help.
Ive just recently rooted and unlocked my nexus 7 with wugfresh 1.6.2 and am now looking at putting a custom rom on it.
Ive followed the advice and put titanium backup on and backed up my apps and system data.
Having read the instructions for installing Smooth Rom 4.4, it states 'Please do not restore a 'system' data backup as it would overwritte some important files'
does this mean I cannot restore my apps from titanium backup as I cant restore system data as they where backed up together or is there some other way for me to do it ?
does titanium backup get wiped as well ?
All Help appreciated, this is my first rom install and I dont wanna **** it up.

Robbie_UK said:
All Help appreciated, this is my first rom install and I dont wanna **** it up.
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The most important thing to do is to make a FULL nandroid backup before you begin.
The 2nd most important thing to do is to get that backup copied someplace else besides the tablet. (PC, USB key, etc) Screw-ups involving accidental erasure of the psuedo- SD card area on the tablet are commonplace with folks that are new to this. It won't do you any good to make a backup if you immediately erase it while fooling around with a custom recovery (or toolkit) that is new to you.
I suggest you learn to make backups using the custom recovery rather than relying on a toolkit.
If you are happy with the tablet in it's current configuration, then a back-up allows you to survive any ****-ups that inevitably follow as you can return back to a known state and proceed again having learned from your mistakes.
FULL NANDROID BACKUPS. COPIED SOMEPLACE SAFE (OFF THE TABLET)
As for TiB, the only thing that is 100% safe is to only restore apps & their data that are NOT pre-installed in whatever ROM you are installing. Note this means not restoring any of the Google gapps as well, as you may have had a different versions of those apps running on your current ROM than on the to-be-installed ROM, whether pre-installed or updated later.
Yeah it's a bit of work restoring apps one by one and re-configuring things. There probably are System apps that can have their data safely restored to the wrong version of the app - but there are absolutely no guarantees that correct operation of the app will follow that.
cheers and good luck

Multi-user support on N7 with ROMs

I have a 32GB N7 that I share with my girlfriend. I quickly learned that if I flash a new ROM, that whole other user's info is gone.
After trying to restore apps and info using both Titanium and ROM Toolbox, I couldn't get it to function like it was before.
I tried to restore to a backup I made prior to doing this and it won't get past the boot screen. I can safely assume that whole other user account is gone. The question is, how can I bring that from one ROM to another? Or how can I restore back to a previous ROM that had it setup?

engagedtosmile said:
I have a 32GB N7 that I share with my girlfriend. I quickly learned that if I flash a new ROM, that whole other user's info is gone.
After trying to restore apps and info using both Titanium and ROM Toolbox, I couldn't get it to function like it was before.
I tried to restore to a backup I made prior to doing this and it won't get past the boot screen. I can safely assume that whole other user account is gone. The question is, how can I bring that from one ROM to another? Or how can I restore back to a previous ROM that had it setup?
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I could be wrong about this as I am very new to serious mucking around in Android but...
Were ROMs you were using previously based on 4.1.x or older? I know that it is only a very recent version of Android that has proper multi-user support (4.2.2 has it for instance.. I'm not sure about 4.2.1 etc..) and thus now places a "0" folder in which the main user's data is saved, and then there will be "10', "11" etc.. for subsequent users. I'm not sure if your data is gone or not depending on your exact situation, but there are issues that can come from trying to get recovery/data from "pre-MultiUser" and "post-MultiUser" ROMs. Sometimes you may be able to manually move or stipulate where you want to recover from etc... others, it may be gone. There was a post about this from TeamWin and their TeamWinRecoveryProject that explains a bit more of it... http://teamw.in/DataMedia
Not sure if this is helpful, but it is worthwhile to look into regarding multi-user Android.

I am having same problem as OP. I share the N7 with my wife and when I flashed ROM I wasnt able to restore any of her data through Titanium, but it would let me restore everything that was on my main user account. Had to switch back to stock rom nandroid, and her data was still gone and mine was all intact. Now she won't let me put a custom rom on If anyone has any suggestions/fixes I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

ProbyWaN said:
I am having same problem as OP. I share the N7 with my wife and when I flashed ROM I wasnt able to restore any of her data through Titanium, but it would let me restore everything that was on my main user account. Had to switch back to stock rom nandroid, and her data was still gone and mine was all intact. Now she won't let me put a custom rom on If anyone has any suggestions/fixes I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
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Probably had to have titanium on both accounts, then created the account after ROM flash and titanium restore on both accounts sperately
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HELP - Restoring backups to a new custom rom

SOLVED!

cheeseypi said:
I have been scouring the internet for over 2 hours, and I can't seem to find anyone who has done something similar to this, so here goes:
I currently have a Nexus 6P with the Pure Nexus Project Rom installed. I would like to switch to CyanogenMod. Normally, this would be no problem, however I am running into some difficulties with backups. Ideally, I would just do a NANDroid backup from TWRP, but I don't have enough space on my device. Right now I am running a full ADB backup to my computer, but in this instance I don't know if I'll be able to restore that backup to a new CyanogenMod installation.
TL;DR: Will an ADB backup restore to a new custom rom i.e. restore to CM from PureNexus? If not, is there a way to do a NANDroid backup directly to my computer?
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You shouldn't be using TWRP to backup/restore data between different ROMs in the first place. That will not only back up your apps but all settings as well, which will cause problems on a different ROM. The only safe way is to use Titanium Backup to backup your user apps (not system apps) and then restore that backup on the new ROM.

Heisenberg said:
You shouldn't be using TWRP to backup/restore data between different ROMs in the first place. That will not only back up your apps but all settings as well, which will cause problems on a different ROM. The only safe way is to use Titanium Backup to backup your user apps (not system apps) and then restore that backup on the new ROM.
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Well that goes against everything I've seen... Thanks though.

cheeseypi said:
Well that goes against everything I've seen... Thanks though.
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Could you point me to where you've seen someone recommending to restore a nandroid /data backup on a different ROM? It's widely known that this is nothing but trouble, if it's on XDA it probably needs to be taken care of.

cheeseypi said:
I have been scouring the internet for over 2 hours, and I can't seem to find anyone who has done something similar to this, so here goes:
I currently have a Nexus 6P with the Pure Nexus Project Rom installed. I would like to switch to CyanogenMod. Normally, this would be no problem, however I am running into some difficulties with backups. Ideally, I would just do a NANDroid backup from TWRP, but I don't have enough space on my device. Right now I am running a full ADB backup to my computer, but in this instance I don't know if I'll be able to restore that backup to a new CyanogenMod installation.
TL;DR: Will an ADB backup restore to a new custom rom i.e. restore to CM from PureNexus? If not, is there a way to do a NANDroid backup directly to my computer?
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Titanium backup is the only really viable solution in such a case. When you need to make a snapshot of your whole system in case of failure you use a Nandroid backup, however when you need to transfer data between /system formats then it's best if you use titanium backup.