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I would love to get a Moto X that has 64 GB and an unlocked boot loader.
Is it possible to purchase the Sprint Edition of the Moto X and convert to a Verizon Moto X to work with LTE?
Before this becomes a "My Carrier is Better Than Yours," due to my location, Verizon is the only carrier I can use.
Thanks!
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I would love to get a Moto X that has 64 GB and an unlocked boot loader.
Is it possible to purchase the Sprint Edition of the Moto X and convert to a Verizon Moto X to work with LTE?
Before this becomes a "My Carrier is Better Than Yours," due to my location, Verizon is the only carrier I can use.
Thanks!
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No. The Sprint variant does not support any bands that VZW uses for LTE. You will get (at best) only 3G, and it will be quite a process even getting it to work on Verizon (if you even can). Currently, AFAIK, people have only been successful flashing the Sprint variant to MVNOs such as PagePlus. Sprint is currently the only carrier that uses LTE on the 1900mhz band (and this is the only LTE band it supports). This makes it only useful for LTE on Sprint.
Your only option is the Verizon variant if you want to use VZW, and I would suggest you buy the VZW DEV edition if you want guaranteed bootloader unlock.
Good Luck
Beyond the LTE bands being different, does the sprint X even use the same 1XRTT/EVDO bands and settings as Verizon? This will be a challenge getting that part even working.
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Beyond the LTE bands being different, does the sprint X even use the same 1XRTT/EVDO bands and settings as Verizon? This will be a challenge getting that part even working.
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Yes. The Sprint variant supports 1X, and EVDO/EHRPD on both 800 and 1900. Sprint has a roaming agreement with Verizon....
I own the RW Moto X (identical in every way to the Sprint variant except firmware - even the same FCC ID), and in areas where no Sprint service is available, it will roam to Verizon on both 1X and 3G (EVDO), but (of course) not LTE. RW is the only Sprint MVNO (that I know of - possibly the only one period) that allows roaming to Verizon.
Remember: PagePlus is an MVNO of Verizon, and people have successfully flash the Sprint variant to PP.
You could get 1X and 3G/EVDO, but that's it.
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Thanks for all the advice.
I'll just hold off for the X2 (X+1), or just be happy with DE 32GB of Moto X.
I was curious if anyone had tried dual CDMA carriers on their dual sim G4s. My understanding is that for 3G cdma voice the device itself is registered as opposed to a 3G GSM which registers the sim, so only one CDMA service could be active at a time. Changing to another CDMA carrier would mean going through Verizon's or Sprints's activation process each time you wanted to change to a different sim (this was my experience with a 3 sim adapter). I'd love to hear someone more knowledgeable chime in on this subject and provide some feedback on whether or not this is how it would work with a dual sim moto G4.
I'd love to have dual CDMA sims because I have free service with ringplus (Sprint MVNO) but it's spotty in rural areas, whereas Verizon has the most solid signal in the remotest regions.....however I think it's a pipedream. I am aware that you can do a CDMA LTE sim switch and get data without a problem (I'v done this with a triple sim adapter), it's voice and text that I'm interested in being able to switch to, without having to go through the activation process. And because I need this voice and data in remote areas without LTE, VOLTE isn't an option.
I hope that isn't too convoluted or arcane a question, I realize it's not a common scenario. But with the Moto 4G being carrier friendly to all the north american providers (GSM and CDMA) and having a dual sim slot, it's the first plausible solution to what I'd like to achieve.
Unfortunately, the only G4 models that have CDMA are the US models (XT1644 G4+, XT1625 G4, XT1607 G4 Play, XT1609 G4 Play for Verizon Prepaid), and the US models are only available in single-SIM format.
From what I've been gathering, there are no dual-SIM CDMA phones that fully work with US carriers available yet. The OnePlus 3 comes sorta close, it's dual-SIM and has CDMA Band 0, which Verizon uses in most markets, but at the moment it either works in 1x/EVDO mode for calls/text, or LTE mode for data. However, it's lacking CDMA Band 1 (Verizon & Sprint) and CDMA Band 10 (Sprint), so it's not ideal. It's also lacking Verizon's main LTE Band 13, and all of Sprint's LTE bands.
Slightly good news, though. The upcoming ZTE Axon 7 is dual-SIM and FCC testing indicates that it fully supports all US carriers, including all Verizon and Sprint CDMA bands.
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Unfortunately, the only G4 models that have CDMA are the US models (XT1644 G4+, XT1625 G4, XT1607 G4 Play, XT1609 G4 Play for Verizon Prepaid), and the US models are only available in single-SIM format.
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Ah, that's unfortunate.
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The OnePlus 3 comes sorta close,
Slightly good news, though. The upcoming ZTE Axon 7 is dual-SIM and FCC testing indicates that it fully supports all US carriers, including all Verizon and Sprint CDMA bands.
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I'll keep an eye on it.
Would the concept work the way I described in the first post though? I'm really curious if the phone would require sprint or verizon activation when switching cdma sims. I don't have a great deal of experience, simply my results with a multisim adapter. I was unable to test the adapter with a verizon and sprint capable phone (like a nexus 6) but tested it with an Verizon samsung s5 using gsm sims and a verizon LTE sim. The gsm sims (various at&t and t-mobile MVNO) were of course no problem, but switching to (or back to) a verizon LTE sim required teh verizon activation process (but not for data, as the LTE was active without activation).
Is it possible to have a dual sim (or even single sim) phone that supports both carriers (Verizon and Sprint) that could switch back and forth, or is the activation process simply inherreient with the way the devices imei's are registered on CDMA networks, and will always be required. For me going through the activation process for Verizon or Sprint when switching sims would simply preclude any practical usefulness with a dual sim cdma capable phone (although it would still have value as a dual sim with a cdma and a gsm sim).
Sorry for the late reply xtermmin and thanks for the info.
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Would the concept work the way I described in the first post though? I'm really curious if the phone would require sprint or verizon activation when switching cdma sims. I don't have a great deal of experience, simply my results with a multisim adapter. I was unable to test the adapter with a verizon and sprint capable phone (like a nexus 6) but tested it with an Verizon samsung s5 using gsm sims and a verizon LTE sim. The gsm sims (various at&t and t-mobile MVNO) were of course no problem, but switching to (or back to) a verizon LTE sim required teh verizon activation process (but not for data, as the LTE was active without activation).
Is it possible to have a dual sim (or even single sim) phone that supports both carriers (Verizon and Sprint) that could switch back and forth, or is the activation process simply inherreient with the way the devices imei's are registered on CDMA networks, and will always be required. For me going through the activation process for Verizon or Sprint when switching sims would simply preclude any practical usefulness with a dual sim cdma capable phone (although it would still have value as a dual sim with a cdma and a gsm sim).
Sorry for the late reply xtermmin and thanks for the info.
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I can't speak for Sprint, as I have Verizon, but I do know that they're more restrictive than Verizon.
On Verizon, the only current restriction is a whitelist when you try to activate a SIM for the first time. You have to use a device that's in Verizon's "activation database", typically Verizon-branded devices, iPhones 6 and up, the Moto X Pure, and (at some point, if not now) the Moto G4 lineup. Once you have an activated SIM, you can stick it into any compatible device (be it from Verizon, another provider's phone, or even an unlocked phone that doesn't officially work on Verizon) and you should be good to go.
For example, I've been using my same Verizon SIM that I got with the HTC Thunderbolt (when it launched in March 2011) in numerous other phones (Verizon phones, US Cellular phones, unlocked phones, even some GSM/LTE-only phones) with no need to contact Verizon or use the website or anything. I've been able to just pop in the SIM, adjust the connection method on the phone if needed, and go.
As for your experience with using a dual-SIM adapter on the Verizon GS5, it might be due to the phone going into "GSM/LTE" mode when you insert a ATT/TMO SIM, but not switching to "CDMA/LTE" mode when you switch to your Verizon SIM (thereby only connecting in LTE mode). Might want to try setting it to Global mode (GSM/CDMA/LTE). The Verizon version probably wasn't tested for dual-SIM use, so it might just be the OS not knowing to switch to the other mode, or it might be an issue with the adapter itself.
Regarding an actual dual-SIM device with both SIMs being CDMA, I'm unsure if it causes any issues, as there's been no phone with that ability released yet (technically, someone can try dual Verizon SIMs in the OP3, but the CDMA implementation on that phone looks to be pretty half-assed, so I wouldn't use it as a baseline). Guess it depends on how the SIM slots are setup (if they share the same IMEI, or if they have different IMEIs for the two slots). If they're the same IMEI, I can see there potentially being issues, but if they're different (which should be the case for any modern name-brand flagship), there shouldn't be.
We'll know more once the Axon 7 releases. Unfortunately, ZTE has said that CDMA support will be coming in a software update later, but at least the phone is physically banded for CDMA, so we won't know for sure until then.
Actually the xt1644 have dual sim slots , one is hidden open the phone and you will find it
A co-worker has a lightly used T-Mobile G6 I'm thinking about picking up. Obviously this phone is too new for custom ROMs to be out there yet, and from reading here it looks like there are no custom recoveries either; but when that all starts to happen, will separate custom ROMs have to be created for each carrier variant, or will any ROM run on any carrier variant?
Pardon me if this is a dumb question. I'm coming in from the Nexus 5, which didn't have carrier-specific models. Thanks.
From previous experience there's enough difference between carriers to requirements different ROMs.
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Good questions, I think most of the time this is necessary, but with the S7 for example it wasn't. This is my first LG too so we'll have to wait and see.
I have seen a few instances where two models have been compatible with one another. An old example would be the HTC Inspire 4g with the HTC Desire HD; the former was the domestic US models and the other was foreign. In another case, models both have bootloader unlocked and root available so the community choose to create roms compatible with both revisions.
I found the H850 and H830 (the LG G5?) had cross compatible development in some instances... Also, you could use Nexus 4 roms on the LG Optimus G once you completed the conversion process. I had the Optimus G and loved this capability!
Will it happen again, who knows.... we can only hope! I'm no developer, but just a rom junkie ;-p
But to answer the question directly: from the phones I've owned & read on the forums, you usually have carrier dependent roms. Now it seems more common to have no support on certain models altogether. This is why I sold my Galaxy Note 3 and now the LG G6 from at&t to get an unlocked T-Mobile variant.
reignlight said:
I have seen a few instances where two models have been compatible with one another. An old example would be the HTC Inspire 4g with the HTC Desire HD; the former was the domestic US models and the other was foreign. In another case, models both have bootloader unlocked and root available so the community choose to create roms compatible with both revisions.
I found the H850 and H830 (the LG G5?) had cross compatible development in some instances... Also, you could use Nexus 4 roms on the LG Optimus G once you completed the conversion process. I had the Optimus G and loved this capability!
Will it happen again, who knows.... we can only hope! I'm no developer, but just a rom junkie ;-p
But to answer the question directly: from the phones I've owned & read on the forums, you usually have carrier dependent roms. Now it seems more common to have no support on certain models altogether. This is why I sold my Galaxy Note 3 and now the LG G6 from at&t to get an unlocked T-Mobile variant.
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All the 2014 Moto Quarks run the same custom ROMs.
Droid Turbo XT1254,
U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250,
Moto Turbo XT1225 (India), and
"international" Moto Maxx XT1225 (LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17).
All the way from Lollipop, Marshmallow, and now Nougat.
[ROMs][Quarks][List for Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo and Droid Turbo]
The phones are split between two different XDA forums, but the same ROMs are used by all the phones. The original CM dev @Skrilax_CZ made sure the kernel was cross-compatible, and it's stayed the way ever since.
The Quark was released at the same time as the Moto Nexus 6, and was basically 5.2" version of that phone -- but had a 3900 mAh battery! The Droid Turbo was the best known of the series, but I owned three of the Moto XT1225 as it has all the AT&T LTE bands. For some reason, Motorola changed the model names depending on country/carrier, but they all had the same hardware. The Droid Turbo was actually a CLONE of the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, with the same FCC ID and radio bands (LTE/CDMA). The XT1250 would run on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card because it was the EXACT same device. You could cross flash Verizon Motorola stock firmware onto an XT1250 to convert it into a "Droid Turbo" if you wished.
The XT1225 models had different FCC ID and radio, but still all the custom ROMs were compatible with ALL the Quarks, thanks to @Skrilax_CZ talent and foresight. And remains so to this day, even with a bunch of other devs now maintaining a variety of ROMs.
It seems the T-Mobile variant has a locked bootloader (which is not un-lockable). I'm guessing that will probably limit the amount of development for this variation of the G6. The only US model that is un-lockable is the US997 (not the US997 from US Cellular).
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It seems the T-Mobile variant has a locked bootloader (which is not un-lockable). I'm guessing that will probably limit the amount of development for this variation of the G6. The only US model that is un-lockable is the US997 (not the US997 from US Cellular).
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Yeah, I wound up buying unlockable US997s from B&H, passing up T-Mo's $500 buy-one-get-one offer with real regret.
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Yeah, I wound up buying unlockable US997s from B&H, passing up T-Mo's $500 buy-one-get-one offer with real regret.
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Didn't realize the OP was that old. Whoops. Still probably good info to have on the thread.
Got mine from B&H too.
Is it possible to SIM unlock this phone? I've looked around but the threads I see all require a paid service or things that haven't even been tested. I don't want to throw money at SIM unlocking because I don't trust those paid 3rd party services. Is it even able to be connected to MetroPCS, if anything? I know it's a CDMA and GSM difference, but specs online don't show specified carriers like other phones would unless they support GSM and CDMA like the iPhone and Galaxy S7 and such.
Sprint will do it if you've met their criteria.
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Sprint will do it if you've met their criteria.
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I'm not with Sprint anymore. Would they still do it?
savagevegeta said:
I'm not with Sprint anymore. Would they still do it?
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Doubt it. I think it has to be activated for 6 months first.
I have one and put in another carrier SIM card and it does not prompt for any unlock code. Sprint technicala support is useless
Good luck! I had a sharp aquious crystal with Sprint years ago and they refused to unlock it because I hadn't been with them long enough. ?
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Good luck! I had a sharp aquious crystal with Sprint years ago and they refused to unlock it because I hadn't been with them long enough. ?
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The Sprint compatible variant of the Moto E4 (xt1766) is likely network locked with carrier implemented encryption. On the Moto E LTE (xt1526), for example, the Sprint compatible variant, GSM functionality was disabled by the provider using a rather clandestine encryption method. Three of the device's partitions, namely, the /hob, /dhob & /pds partitions, were encrypted to prevent any GSM functionality with the global providers. To the best of my knowledge, as of today, no exploit or user-end modification has ever been discovered to decrypt the network restrictions. This is also the case with a number of Lenovo & Motorola Mobility manufactured smartphones, including, it would appear, the Sprint compatible Moto E4.
its possible
I must go back from my previous post and correct the statement I made regarding the SIM lock status of the xt1766 SPerry Moto E4. Unlike many of it's predacessors, the Moto E4 is not network locked via encryption or partition security. In fact, the Sprint/Boost Mobile/Virgin Mobile variants of the xt1766 is not SIM or network locked at all -- at least not in the traditional sense of the term. Rather, the apparent network restrictions are in the stock firmware (Android OS) itself. When the stock ROM is replaced by any of the several custom Android ROMs available for the xt1766 -- LineageOS 14.1, for example, the device will automatically recognize and support SIM cards from GSM networks such as AT&T, T-Mobile, Cricket, H20, etc. It should be noted here that the xt1766 has quad-band GSM capabilities (850/900 1800/1900), support for WCDMA Bands 1, 2, 4, 5 and 8, and supports LTE Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 44, as well as the newer 1700MHz LTE Band 66. So, if you're using an AT&T SIM or AT&T based MVNO or subsidiary, which uses LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 12 and 17, voice, SMS/MMS, and 4G/LTE data are fully supported. If you are using a T-Mobile based MVNO or subsidiary, or a T-Mobile SIM, utilizing LTE Bands 2, 4, 12 and 66, you are also fully covered. Outside the United States, please check the specs of your global provider to make sure that the required bands are supported. It's also noteworthy that, whichever GSM provider you are using, it will likely be necessary to go to device SETTINGS>MOBILE NETWORKS and manually configure an Access Point Name (APN) for data and MMS services specific to your provider.
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I must go back from my previous post and correct the statement I made regarding the SIM lock status of the xt1766 SPerry Moto E4. Unlike many of it's predacessors, the Moto E4 is not network locked via encryption or partition security. In fact, the Sprint/Boost Mobile/Virgin Mobile variants of the xt1766 is not SIM or network locked at all -- at least not in the traditional sense of the term. Rather, the apparent network restrictions are in the stock firmware (Android OS) itself. When the stock ROM is replaced by any of the several custom Android ROMs available for the xt1766 -- LineageOS 14.1, for example, the device will automatically recognize and support SIM cards from GSM networks such as AT&T, T-Mobile, Cricket, H20, etc. It should be noted here that the xt1766 has quad-band GSM capabilities (850/900 1800/1900), support for WCDMA Bands 1, 2, 4, 5 and 8, and supports LTE Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 44, as well as the newer 1700MHz LTE Band 66. So, if you're using an AT&T SIM or AT&T based MVNO or subsidiary, which uses LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 12 and 17, voice, SMS/MMS, and 4G/LTE data are fully supported. If you are using a T-Mobile based MVNO or subsidiary, or a T-Mobile SIM, utilizing LTE Bands 2, 4, 12 and 66, you are also fully covered. Outside the United States, please check the specs of your global provider to make sure that the required bands are supported. It's also noteworthy that, whichever GSM provider you are using, it will likely be necessary to go to device SETTINGS>MOBILE NETWORKS and manually configure an Access Point Name (APN) for data and MMS services specific to your provider.
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Same with the XT1765 METRO PCS.
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The Sprint compatible variant of the Moto E4 (xt1766) is likely network locked with carrier implemented encryption. On the Moto E LTE (xt1526), for example, the Sprint compatible variant, GSM functionality was disabled by the provider using a rather clandestine encryption method. Three of the device's partitions, namely, the /hob, /dhob & /pds partitions, were encrypted to prevent any GSM functionality with the global providers. To the best of my knowledge, as of today, no exploit or user-end modification has ever been discovered to decrypt the network restrictions. This is also the case with a number of Lenovo & Motorola Mobility manufactured smartphones, including, it would appear, the Sprint compatible Moto E4.
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I have a Sprint Moto E (2015) and it seems that it is only SIM locked to US carriers. A foreign SIM seems to come up just fine without setting anything. Even let me change APN.
There are 3 sellers on eBay selling remote unlock service for the Boost Moto E4. Interestly, they all mention that unlocked E4 will not work in US. Whereas other people running 3rd party ROM has no problem using T-Mobile / AT&T. So I guess their unlock mechanism is different and perhaps bringing the Moto E4 into a state similar to the Sprint Moto E2.
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I have a Sprint Moto E (2015) and it seems that it is only SIM locked to US carriers. A foreign SIM seems to come up just fine without setting anything. Even let me change APN.
There are 3 sellers on eBay selling remote unlock service for the Boost Moto E4. Interestly, they all mention that unlocked E4 will not work in US. Whereas other people running 3rd party ROM has no problem using T-Mobile / AT&T. So I guess their unlock mechanism is different and perhaps bringing the Moto E4 into a state similar to the Sprint Moto E2.
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All Sprint compatible models of the Moto E LTE (2nd Gen) 2015, as you correctly noted, are unlockable for international GSM carriers, but are GSM disabled for domestic use.
The Sprint Moto E4 (xt1766) is not SIM locked at all for domestic GSM usage -- at least not in a technical sense. The GSM restrictions on the xt1766 are coded within the stock firmware. Flashing a custom ROM and the APN fixes and blobs will enable GSM support. On the xt1526, GSM service is disabled via embedded encryption to the /pds, /hob and /dhob partitions. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has been yet successful in disabling it.
On the Moto E4 xt1766, the launch version of the firmware allows domestic GSM support, and even allows APN editing.
While I realize I've previously mentioned these points, I'm pointing out the key differences in Sprint's policies of carrier locking between the Moto E LTE (xt1526) and the Moto E4 (xt1766). The xt1526 was based on partition encryption, which is not alterable. And the xt1766 is firmware based, which obviously can be modified and removed.
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All Sprint compatible models of the Moto E LTE (2nd Gen) 2015, as you correctly noted, are unlockable for international GSM carriers, but are GSM disabled for domestic use.
The Sprint Moto E4 (xt1766) is not SIM locked at all for domestic GSM usage -- at least not in a technical sense. The GSM restrictions on the xt1766 are coded within the stock firmware. Flashing a custom ROM and the APN fixes and blobs will enable GSM support. On the xt1526, GSM service is disabled via embedded encryption to the /pds, /hob and /dhob partitions. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has been yet successful in disabling it.
On the Moto E4 xt1766, the launch version of the firmware allows domestic GSM support, and even allows APN editing.
While I realize I've previously mentioned these points, I'm pointing out the key differences in Sprint's policies of carrier locking between the Moto E LTE (xt1526) and the Moto E4 (xt1766). The xt1526 was based on partition encryption, which is not alterable. And the xt1766 is firmware based, which obviously can be modified and removed.
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Hi, I have a sprint Moto E4 (xt1766) that is rooted and has lineage OS installed as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...neageos-14-1-moto-e4-qualcomm-t3690156/page36 but I get a No SIM when I put in a US TMobile SIM. (Without a SIM, I get "No SIM card -- Emergency calls only" so clearly, the phone recognizes the SIM. And the SIM works fine on a Nexus 4.)
I wonder what I need to do to get the SIM working on my XT1766. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks again in advance.
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Hi, I have a sprint Moto E4 (xt1766) that is rooted and has lineage OS installed as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...neageos-14-1-moto-e4-qualcomm-t3690156/page36 but I get a No SIM when I put in a US TMobile SIM. (Without a SIM, I get "No SIM card -- Emergency calls only" so clearly, the phone recognizes the SIM. And the SIM works fine on a Nexus 4.)
I wonder what I need to do to get the SIM working on my XT1766. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks again in advance.
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It is too late now. You must have picked up one of the security update which secretly locks your phone to sprint.
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Looking online I see numerous different model numbers for the e4. Plus, I'm seeing there's a "plus" model, a prime model, some with finger print readers and some without. What's the deal with them having so many different crazy variants of this handset?
That's another thing that confused me too was I was told via both a review online and an in store rep the e4 has a finger print reader but I learned after opening the box it didn't and come to find out the Sprint (boost/virgin) models don't. I'm so confused.
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Looking online I see numerous different model numbers for the e4. Plus, I'm seeing there's a "plus" model, a prime model, some with finger print readers and some without. What's the deal with them having so many different crazy variants of this handset?
That's another thing that confused me too was I was told via both a review online and an in store rep the e4 has a finger print reader but I learned after opening the box it didn't and come to find out the Sprint (boost/virgin) models don't. I'm so confused.
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Yeah, some carriers had made their own version of the phone. Like Boost mobile has a version, Verizon has a version. Some have a finger print scanner and some don't. If you want the Moto E4 with a fingerprint scanner and unlockable bootloader, go on Amazon and there should be one for about 130$. That version (XT1768) Should work with most carriers.
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Yeah, some carriers had made their own version of the phone. Like Boost mobile has a version, Verizon has a version. Some have a finger print scanner and some don't. If you want the Moto E4 with a fingerprint scanner and unlockable bootloader, go on Amazon and there should be one for about 130$. That version (XT1768) Should work with most carriers.
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Aren't all of the bootloader's aside the VZW variant able to be unlocked? I'm reading up on it now because I'm planning to try and root this device. I'm currently using the XT1766 model with boost.
While I feel slightly annoyed I was ripped of a finger print reader it's not a terrible deal as long as I can uninstall all this crazy bloatware.
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Aren't all of the bootloader's aside the VZW variant able to be unlocked? I'm reading up on it now because I'm planning to try and root this device. I'm currently using the XT1766 model with boost.
While I feel slightly annoyed I was ripped of a finger print reader it's not a terrible deal as long as I can uninstall all this crazy bloatware.
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The Verizon variant has a permanent locked bootloader, so far nobody can unlock it. And all of the other variants except for the Amazon prime model should have unlocked bootloader's. You should be able to uninstall some bloatware on stock if you properly root.
Hi, not wanting to create a new topic, so I'll just pop my question here.
I have a mediatek e4, xt1760.
Are the roms in the dev section to specific xt176x or as long as it's in the mediatek section I need not be concern with the variant version?
I apologies if this question has been asked.
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Hi, not wanting to create a new topic, so I'll just pop my question here.
I have a mediatek e4, xt1760.
Are the roms in the dev section to specific xt176x or as long as it's in the mediatek section I need not be concern with the variant version?
I apologies if this question has been asked.
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If it doesn't mention it in the op for a particular rom, I'm sure it's fine to ask in that thread. Someone will likely answer. Of course you might get a good answer here too.
It seems that the Verizon version is XT1767 while the unlocked version is XT1768. According to frequencycheck.com, the XT1767 has less frequencies supported than the XT1768.
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It seems that the Verizon version is XT1767 while the unlocked version is XT1768. According to frequencycheck.com, the XT1767 has less frequencies supported than the XT1768.
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Correct.
I think most of the variants are just different radios for connecting to various types of towers. To cut costs, some carriers like Verizon only include radio support for their own towers and only basic support for roaming, meaning that while the device might be able to be unlocked and used on other networks, it might not be able to use the other network's towers fully because it doesn't support their frequencies.
In addition, the firmware on different variants could be different, for example the hardware of the Sprint Moto E4 and Boost Mobile Moto E4 are almost identical, but the firmware image has apps specific to that carrier that wouldn't work on other carriers.
Some variants have an entirely different internal structure, using the Mediatek or Qualcomm chipsets, which is sometimes because the radio chipsets needed for US carriers aren't as compatible with non-Qualcomm chipsets.
chuman72486 said:
I think most of the variants are just different radios for connecting to various types of towers. To cut costs, some carriers like Verizon only include radio support for their own towers and only basic support for roaming, meaning that while the device might be able to be unlocked and used on other networks, it might not be able to use the other network's towers fully because it doesn't support their frequencies.
In addition, the firmware on different variants could be different, for example the hardware of the Sprint Moto E4 and Boost Mobile Moto E4 are almost identical, but the firmware image has apps specific to that carrier that wouldn't work on other carriers.
Some variants have an entirely different internal structure, using the Mediatek or Qualcomm chipsets, which is sometimes because the radio chipsets needed for US carriers aren't as compatible with non-Qualcomm chipsets.
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The Sprint and boost versions are completely identical (sprint owns boost) and they provision upon activation and any carrier specific apps are loaded from the oem partition. Same for the virgin mobile version.