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Great news this morning for whoever was holding out on buying the Moto X (2014) Pure Edition due to the LTE coverage. Motorola has said that they will soon be enabling LTE 3, 5, and 7 on the Pure Edition via an OTA update!
http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-pure-edition-xt1095-may-soon-get-more-lte-bands
Effectively, both XT1095 and XT1097 will support the same LTE bands after this update rolls out.
Nevermind, I always forget Band 13... FML Verizon, worst network for tinkerers and phone junkies alike.
Kenmichi said:
Nevermind, I always forget Band 13... FML Verizon, worst network for tinkerers and phone junkies alike.
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Huh? Verizon phones are factory unlocked and work on CDMA and GSM, compare that to what you get on T-Mobile, Sprint, or AT&T and Verizon has the best phones for phone junkies. Now unlocked bootloaders, I'll agree Verizon sucks with that.
Band 13 is only supported on the VZW edition Moto X (xt1096) and is one of their primary LTE bands. So yes the Pure Edition, or even regular AT&T edition for that matter, Moto X will work on the VZW network you are limiting your connectivity significantly.
Kenmichi said:
Band 13 is only supported on the VZW edition Moto X (xt1096) and is one of their primary LTE bands. So yes the Pure Edition, or even regular AT&T edition for that matter, Moto X will work on the VZW network you are limiting your connectivity significantly.
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They'll never let you bring your own phone. Never. Even if it did magically work on the network.
geoff5093 said:
Huh? Verizon phones are factory unlocked and work on CDMA and GSM, compare that to what you get on T-Mobile, Sprint, or AT&T and Verizon has the best phones for phone junkies. Now unlocked bootloaders, I'll agree Verizon sucks with that.
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Factory unlocked, really? So I could wait and pick up a Droid Turbo and use it on T-mobile? Hmmm, may have to research this. Although, the extra bloatware would probably keep me away.
But, back on-topic...
This certainly makes the Pure a much more useful phone. It still needs Band 12 (T-mobile owns Band 12 in 2/3 of my county) to serve the US providers that it is intended for, but this is definitely a good step in the right direction.
Awesome this will enable LTE in Euro for most people. This makes the new Moto X way more versatile than the old Moto X which contains only:[2/4/17] ... basically i can buy a moto x for any of my European friends
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Factory unlocked, really? So I could wait and pick up a Droid Turbo and use it on T-mobile? Hmmm, may have to research this. Although, the extra bloatware would probably keep me away.
But, back on-topic...
This certainly makes the Pure a much more useful phone. It still needs Band 12 (T-mobile owns Band 12 in 2/3 of my county) to serve the US providers that it is intended for, but this is definitely a good step in the right direction.
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Well we can't say with 100% certainty since it's not out yet, but all other Verizon LTE phones are factory unlocked and can be used on other carriers. I've used my Verizon Note 2, LG G2, and LG G3 on T-Mobile. The only issues you would run into would be an "unknown SIM" in the status bar, and you may need to add APN entries. If you root though, you can easily fix both of these issues.
Actually itd be wayyyy better if they dropped band 5 and just included 20 ... 800mhz LTE is essential for non rural cities in Europe.
This discussion has already been started in this XDA thread.
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Help the Moto Maxx (XT1225) get it's own forum section!
The Moto Maxx is the international variant of the Droid Turbo but differently from other phones variations, the Moto Maxx has many things that set it apart from the Turbo.
Connectivity is one, for example. The Turbo is CDMA based, since it's from Verizon and the MAXX is an International all-rounder. Don't even make me talk about the name, it doesn't even
look remotely the same. THEY ARE DIFFERENT and they deserve to be treated like so.
Reply and vote if you agree! Let's make this, fellow MAXX users.
-Jvov
If the moto maxx is an all rounder wouldn't that male the hardware exactly the same in the turbo? I take this as good news because I want to switch networks eventually.
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Just the fact that one is a CDMA phone while the other is GSM is problematic. One is unlocked, the other is not. There will be different methods used in order to unlock the bootloader and root for each device. Some files will be ok to flash on one but death on the other and vice versa, read about the various bricks between the Find 7 and Find 7a if you want to learn how this happens. They do not have the same stock software payload and will require different roms which will get confused with one another and problems will happen because some people cant be bothered to follow simple instructions.
You can by the way make this request in the request thread up in general. I did.
The Moto Maxx XT1225 is just more dev-friendly than the Droid Turbo. It deserves its own section.
Jvov said:
Help the Moto Maxx (XT1225) get it's own forum section!
The Moto Maxx is the international variant of the Droid Turbo but differently from other phones variations, the Moto Maxx has many things that set it apart from the Turbo.
Connectivity is one, for example. The Turbo is CDMA based, since it's from Verizon and the MAXX is an International all-rounder. Don't even make me talk about the name, it doesn't even
look remotely the same. THEY ARE DIFFERENT and they deserve to be treated like so.
Reply and vote if you agree! Let's make this, fellow MAXX users.
-Jvov
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Wouldn't be easier to PM some forum moderator and ask for a different thread?.
There are many other phones that are carrier-exclusive that have their own section/forum.
Why not maxx/droid turbo?
I think new forum should be great
Jvov said:
Help the Moto Maxx (XT1225) get it's own forum section!
The Moto Maxx is the international variant of the Droid Turbo but differently from other phones variations, the Moto Maxx has many things that set it apart from the Turbo.
Connectivity is one, for example. The Turbo is CDMA based, since it's from Verizon and the MAXX is an International all-rounder. Don't even make me talk about the name, it doesn't even
look remotely the same. THEY ARE DIFFERENT and they deserve to be treated like so.
Reply and vote if you agree! Let's make this, fellow MAXX users.
-Jvov
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Just the fact that one is a CDMA phone while the other is GSM is problematic. One is unlocked, the other is not. There will be different methods used in order to unlock the bootloader and root for each device. Some files will be ok to flash on one but death on the other and vice versa, read about the various bricks between the Find 7 and Find 7a if you want to learn how this happens. They do not have the same stock software payload and will require different roms which will get confused with one another and problems will happen because some people cant be bothered to follow simple instructions.
You can by the way make this request in the request thread up in general. I did.
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Who says that the Turbo is CDMA? I have a Verizon Turbo and use it in Germany with Vodafone GSM, G3, H+ and LTE without any problems.
Cheers
Lyson said:
Who says that the Turbo is CDMA? I have a Verizon Turbo and use it in Germany with Vodafone GSM, G3, H+ and LTE without any problems.
Cheers
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I think they meant to say that is CDMA based, as well as Verizon network is, but Turbo still has support for GSM, and if the bands are correct, it can have LTE also in other places.
I believe we should get our own forum, but not right now.
We still share many things. We have so little content that many of our posts in the general section should be in the Q&A or at the Original Dev, but we don't produce that much content.
I'd rather have one or 2 sub forums here differentiating. the Original Dev, for example, should be split in 2, one for each.
Having at least a couple of sub-forums would help a lot finding and sharing content.
I still don't own a Moto Maxx but it will sure be my next device and I'll surely unlock its bootloader.
Lyson said:
Who says that the Turbo is CDMA? I have a Verizon Turbo and use it in Germany with Vodafone GSM, G3, H+ and LTE without any problems.
Cheers
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Here in the states phone variants designed to run on CDMA networks are called CDMA phones, phones designed to run on GSM networks are called GSM phones. Nowadays of course the terms don't have the meaning they once did when a phone either was one or the other and did not possess broad multi frequency support but the terms still carry forward to denote variants built for either one network type or the other. In the states only on Verizon can you get full carrier support with the turbo, on any other network you will at times lose LTE depending on which carrier you use it on.
The importance here is that these phones will diverge in their development. Like it or not the vast majority of all Turbos sold will be used on the largest CDMA network in the world, Verizon, which is also the most intrusive and meddling carrier in the US and that alone means all these users will face problems particular to that network one of which is a locked bootloader. Whatever process sees that bootloader unlocked will be very different than simply going to Motorolas website as Maxx users will do. The recovery will be different, the roms will be different, etc.
As I said, you need only go to the Find 7 forums to see what happens when two every similar but different phones share the same forum. Users flash the wrong modems, the wrong recoveries, the wrong roms, the wrong frameworks, its a long list. In truth this could be overcome with ease simply by users employing common sense and reading before they act but the reality is many many people come to this site green and then flash without understanding that one little letter in a name can mean the phone isn't going to boot up. Then you get all the help me I bricked my phone, I'm in infinite boot loop, and so on posts. People usually find their way clear of whatever mistake they made but not all do, some learn the lesson the expensive way.
IMO its better to at least split the development sections and rename the sub forum something on the lines of Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx forum. There will be less problems and it's been done here before when this situation came up. I'm just an old man though and maybe overly cautious...
So theoretically speaking according the stats of the supported bands the droid turbo rooted and unlocked would be a better phone to have then the moto maxx?
It appears turbo has all the bands the maxx has AND more...
This being said, if the turbo gets its boot loader unlocked its a more versatile phone to own in terms of supported bands and network capabilities.
Sent from my XT1254
ccheww said:
So theoretically speaking according the stats of the supported bands the droid turbo rooted and unlocked would be a better phone to have then the moto maxx?
It appears turbo has all the bands the maxx has AND more...
This being said, if the turbo gets its boot loader unlocked its a more versatile phone to own in terms of supported bands and network capabilities.
Sent from my XT1254
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Theoretically and In paper, yes, it would be a more reliable phone.
ccheww said:
So theoretically speaking according the stats of the supported bands the droid turbo rooted and unlocked would be a better phone to have then the moto maxx?
It appears turbo has all the bands the maxx has AND more...
This being said, if the turbo gets its boot loader unlocked its a more versatile phone to own in terms of supported bands and network capabilities.
Sent from my XT1254
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Here is (from the FCC filings) the Droid, LTE bands 2/3/4/7/13 and the Maxx, LTE bands 2/4/5/7/17 so not the same and not more. The 3G isn't significant because almost everywhere either one is going to work. This means neither is better for any one person, which one will be depends on which carrier you employ in your home area, not the hardware. I say this because almost no phone will have 100% coverage (if a carrier is using a freq your phone has it) for more than 1 or 2 networks in any given area. In the states for instance the Droid has this on Verizon but no where else and the Maxx has it on AT&T but not any other carrier. If you for example use either on Tmo you will sometimes be without LTE because TMO is not fully covered by either phone.
Once you have the best phone for the carrier of choice at home you usually have a choice of several carriers when abroad so you simply get a pre-paid sim on one that supports your phone the best or is cheapest depending on what you want. I usually just go cheap since 3G is fine for short periods when a good savings can be had on a pre-paid which often vary wildly in price depending on various sales and promotions.
I don't see one being better than the other in theory and with the hardware being a push and user needs dependent the differentiation that stands out is the bootloader. One can be unlocked now, one cannot. I don't consider the small bit of bloat on the Droid a factor since it can be easily gone around.
Check this out and request here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354&page=1645
Droid Razr for CDMA and international shared the same forum section and the development for both phones was fantastic. I think it was because they shared the page that the CDMA development was kept alive. No I don't think they should have separate forums, but that is my opinion.
Galaxo60 said:
Check this out and request here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354&page=1645
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Thanks
+1 please
there will be forum when it gets released on att and tmobile.
Hello and welcome
I started this thread because i want to help all people who has or want this phone to get more Info about carrier and bootloader compatibilities.
Lets start with this:
DROID TURBO / MOTO MAXX
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Little History of the Device
We know as late as mid-August Google was testing a 5.2" 1440p Snapdragon 805 Nexus 6 variant with 3GB RAM, made by Motorola. We saw the leaked benchmarks. After August, all evidence of a 5.2" Nexus 6 model disappeared. Google decided to release only one new Nexus phone, the 5.9" version.
But instead of being released as a Nexus, Motorola released that 5.2" phone as the Droid Turbo (Verizon)/Moto Maxx.
The shared specifications of these devices are the following:
SYSTEM: Near-stock Android 4.4.4 KitKat (TESTING ANDROID L 5.0.2 RIGHT NOW ON MOTO MAXX)
SCREEN: 5.2-inch QHD AMOLED (2,560 x 1,440 pixels, 565 ppi)
PROCESSOR: Quad-core Snapdragon 805, quad-core, 2.7 GHz, Adreno 420 GPU
RAM: 3 GB
INTERNAL MEMORY: 32/64 GB
BATTERY: 3,900 mAh
QI WIRELESS CHARGING
QUALCOMM CHARGE 2.0 UP TO 8 HOURS OF BATTERY CHARGING IN 30 MINUTES
CAMERA: 21 MP (rear), 1.3MP (front)
CONNECTIVITY: LTE, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0, USB 2.0
DIMENSIONS: 73.3 x 143.5 x 11.2mm (Ballistic Nylon)/73.3 x 146.5 x 10.6mm (Metalized Fiber)
WEIGHT: 176 g (Ballistic Nylon)/169 g (Metalized Fiber) 184 g
PRICE: $599.00 USD (base model)/ $8999.00 MXP
USES NANO SIM CARD
CARRIER AND BOOTLOADER COMPATIBILITY
So if you are on USA my advice its to get an US MOTO MAXX to get unlocked bootloader, root and LTE compatibility on major carriers.
WHERE TO GET DROID TURBO/MOTO MAXX
DROID TURBO: http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/droid/
US MOTO MAXX: (sellers recopilation by chazzmatt) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58865000&postcount=197
INTERNATIONAL MOTO MAXX and MOTO TURBO: Int Moto maxx its currently being sold on Mexico, Puerto Rico, Brasil, Chile and india, you can look for it in motorola's page for each country ( motorola.com.mx , motorola.com.br , motorola.com.pr, motorola.com.cl )
I think its pretty Clear in this table which version of moto maxx and droid turbo work in each carrier and if they can be unlocked or not, if you have any questions about this please post.
Special thanks to @ChazzMatt for the little history text.
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Moto maxx has been finally released on the Mexican carrier TELCEL i saw it yesterday on a store hope more people get to know this awesome device
I have been searching everywhere. Were you able to find a definitive confirmation that the XT1250 is unlockable and works on Verizon? Screenshots, videos, personal testing? The only thing that I can find is that one person partially attempted to do both, but didn't actually do it.
timmyk465 said:
I have been searching everywhere. Were you able to find a definitive confirmation that the XT1250 is unlockable and works on Verizon? Screenshots, videos, personal testing? The only thing that I can find is that one person partially attempted to do both, but didn't actually do it.
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because the xt1250 runs mostly on CDMA networks by small carriers on USA, and beign carrier unlocked, works with verizon, about the bootloader, i trust the guy who said that he was able to unlock the bootloader according to motorola's unlocking site, but he did not want to because warranty issues, and if one model can be bootloader unlocked all can
I hope device come for more countrys
Does anyone know if any of the small carriers that have the xt1250 will allow you to purchase and ship the phone from a place outside of their local network? (For example I'm in Texas and would use it on Verizon)
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CARRIER AND BOOTLOADER COMPATIBILITY
Special thanks to @ChazzMatt for the little history text.
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Thank you, @Jaocagomez.
The only additional info I would add is:
1) Chile is also one of the Latin American countries where the XT1225 is sold. Was released there after Brazil, Mexico, Puerto Rico.
http://www.motorola.cl/consumers/view-all-mobile-phones/Moto-Maxx/moto-maxx-cl.html
2) It's worth repeating that all the Moto Maxx/Droid Turbo models are "Quark" Motorola phones with identical hardware specs (display, resolution, RAM, cameras, CPU, GPU, turbo charging, Qi wireless charging, battery, etc), except for internal memory storage (32GB or 64GB). The "international" XT1225 only comes in 64GB with ballistic nylon back.
3) The U.S. XT1250 "Moto Maxx" and XT1254 "Droid Turbo" are identical except for carrier-specific software -- both have CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands. They both have the same FCC ID number. The "Droid Turbo" is just the Verizon "Moto Maxx" with a locked bootloader. ("Droid" is a name licensed to Verizon by LucasArts which they can slap on any phone they wish. Verizon chose to call their locked down version Droid Turbo, instead of Moto Maxx.)
4) The XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 even though the official specs only list 2, 3, 4, 7, 17. When it passed through the FCC it had LTE band 5 (used on AT&T), and QPST/nv browser shows it's still there and enabled. But since the XT1225 was aimed primarily at the Latin America market, where LTE band 5 is not used, Motorola left it off the specs listing. Apple did something similar with the iPhone in 2012, having TWO extra LTE bands enabled that were not mentioned in the "official" specs.
The XT1225 has a different FCC number from the XT1250/XT1254.
5) All the XT1225 phones sold in all the various countries are the same. They all have the same FCC ID number. Why did the XT1225 go through the FCC? Because Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory. Listing an FCC number on a phone in Brazil or Mexico doesn't carry the force of law in the U.S., but listing it on the XT1225 in Puerto Rico does carry the force of law for Motorola. But since it's listed on ALL the XT1225 boxes, wherever sold, it's the same phone across all countries.
6) For people wanting to buy the XT1225 in the 50 states of the USA, you can try eBay or Swappa. There were several Puerto Rico dealers selling them. It's U.S. territory and can be shipped via U.S.P.S. Priority Mail with tracking number. Just make sure they unlock the phone for you or provide the unlock code, as in Puerto Rico the Moto Maxx is only sold in Claro stores not through the Motorola website.
My Mexico Moto Maxx XT1225 was bought straight from Motorola Mexico website (through the help of @Jaocagomez) and came unlocked for all carriers from the factory, but my Puerto Rico Moto Maxx XT1225 was unlocked by the eBay dealer who shipped it to me. Otherwise would have stayed locked to Claro.
Thumb Cellular
Just a follow up. It looks like Thumb will sell you a phone and ship outside of their area. You have to buy it at full price, and they will not offer you a return on it, so the sale would be final.
Another follow up.
I've just about called every CDMA provider on the wikipedia list to get more information about this phone and whether or not you can buy it. For the most part no one will sell it unless you buy it in the store or you ship it within their service area. (Except as I mentioned above Thumb who will sell it and ship it no returns, no warranty).
I was able to find out that, according to the rep from Pioneer Cellular, the model number for the XT1250 is MOTO GXP1031.
A few of the carriers are looking into more information for me and are supposed to call me back. I'm trying to track down who their vendors are. It seems none of them are buying this phone directly from Motorola.
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Another follow up.
I've just about called every CDMA provider on the wikipedia list to get more information about this phone and whether or not you can buy it. For the most part no one will sell it unless you buy it in the store or you ship it within their service area. (Except as I mentioned above Thumb who will sell it and ship it no returns, no warranty).
I was able to find out that, according to the rep from Pioneer Cellular, the model number for the XT1250 is MOTO GXP1031.
A few of the carriers are looking into more information for me and are supposed to call me back. I'm trying to track down who their vendors are. It seems none of them are buying this phone directly from Motorola.
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That's interesting. So Motorola is selling this phone to some wholesalers, who are reselling it to regional carriers?
I know Motorola calls it the XT1250. I've seen it listed several places, just like the XT1225 -- like battery back covers on AliExpress. So, that other model number must be that carrier's product code, not Motorola's? Or the wholesaler's code?
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If you get one of these XT1250 Moto Maxx, do you have a Verizon nano SIM card to put in? For an account already activated? If not, get a SIM card cutter.
Because Verizon will lie to you and tell you it won't work. You have to get a nano SIM card without them knowing about it. Best way is to cut already-activated micro SIM card down, if you don't already have a nano size.
Wow this is great news! I've been waiting for this device to come to ATT (under the rumored Moto Play name) but you're saying it's technically already available? So I can buy the XT1250 and I'll get full LTE speed on ATT? If so I might just get this...
Two questions:
1. What's your opinion on the speed of Motorola updating these phones? I know that due to their close relationship with Verizon they get it first usually, but because these have to be approved by handfuls of non major carriers do you think it'll be much slower? Will it matter which of these carriers I buy the phone from then?
2. Because these are not bought from Verizon or directly from Motorola Store, will Motorola still offer the one free screen replacement if broken within first year is ownership?
Thanks for your help
ergoautumn said:
Wow this is great news! I've been waiting for this device to come to ATT (under the rumored Moto Play name) but you're saying it's technically already available? So I can buy the XT1250 and I'll get full LTE speed on ATT? If so I might just get this...
Two questions:
1. What's your opinion on the speed of Motorola updating these phones? I know that due to their close relationship with Verizon they get it first usually, but because these have to be approved by handfuls of non major carriers do you think it'll be much slower? Will it matter which of these carriers I buy the phone from then?
2. Because these are not bought from Verizon or directly from Motorola Store, will Motorola still offer the one free screen replacement if broken within first year is ownership?
Thanks for your help
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The "international" XT1225 Moto Maxx would be better for AT&T. Has all the AT&T LTE bands. Official specs say LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17 but really has 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17. AT&T uses 2, 4, 5, 17.
eBay or Swappa is your friend.
Here's some recent speeds on AT&T GoPhone with one of my two XT1225 Moto Maxx phones:
ChazzMatt said:
That's interesting. So Motorola is selling this phone to some wholesalers, who are reselling it to regional carriers?
I know Motorola calls it the XT1250. I've seen it listed several places, just like the XT1225 -- like battery back covers on AliExpress. So, that other model number must be that carrier's product code, not Motorola's? Or the wholesaler's code?
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If you get one of these XT1250 Moto Maxx, do you have a Verizon nano SIM card to put in? For an account already activated? If not, get a SIM card cutter.
Because Verizon will lie to you and tell you it won't work. You have to get a nano SIM card without them knowing about it. Best way is to cut ssn already activated micro card down, if you don't already have a nano.
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I do have a Verizon SIM, but it is for my Galaxy S3. I'll either cut and sand it, or go to a Verizon store and tell them I bought a phone on ebay and need a new nano SIM. I'm still holding off on getting the phone from Thumb until I know more about everything. Hopefully I can track down a vendor or a better source to buy the phone (one that will offer a return policy).
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I do have a Verizon SIM, but it is for my Galaxy S3. I'll either cut and sand it, or go to a Verizon store and tell them I bought a phone on ebay and need a new nano SIM. I'm still holding off on getting the phone from Thumb until I know more about everything. Hopefully I can track down a vendor or a better source to buy the phone (one that will offer a return policy).
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I'm also assuming the phone from Thumb is 32GB correct? I've reached out to several of those carriers as well and have not identified one that sells a 64GB XT1250. I also have not confirmed that one exists!
btw on Verizon I would also expect that Softcard would not work but would be willing to lose it in order to show if it doesn't work on XT1250 with the VZW ISIS app. Also I have not heard of anyone with software updates to the XT1250 to either enable video calling or VoLTE (HD voice or Simultaneous voice/data). Would anyone expect carrier updates or updates direct from Moto or to only be able to hope firmware from XT1254 can be dissected from an OTA?
Whew that's a lot
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btw on Verizon I would also expect that Softcard would not work but would be willing to lose it in order to show if it doesn't work on XT1250 with the VZW ISIS app. Also I have not heard of anyone with software updates to the XT1250 to either enable video calling or VoLTE (HD voice or Simultaneous voice/data). Would anyone expect carrier updates or updates direct from Moto or to only be able to hope firmware from XT1254 can be dissected from an OTA?
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With an unlocked bootloader on the XT1250, I wonder if you could flash firmware from XT1225 (if you want 5.0.2 sooner) or XT1254 (if you want VOLTE from VZW) and have everything still work okay. When I had a VZW Moto X (XT1060) Developer Edition with an unlocked bootloader, firmware from other Ghost variants worked just fine (e.g., T-Mobile's 4.4.3 build released before Verizon's eventual skip to 4.4.4). If XT1225,XT1250, and XT1254 are all quark boards, think this could work?
I would love to sell my XT1254 and pick up the XT1250 if it meant getting xposed back... I'd even be fine with Verizon's firmware with 4.4.4+VOLTE+Xposed and waiting for the XT1254 to get 5.0.2 w/ VOLTE since flashing the XT1225 lollipop build would result in loss of VOLTE and thus simultaneous voice+data.
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With an unlocked bootloader on the XT1250, I wonder if you could flash firmware from XT1225 (if you want 5.0.2 sooner) or XT1254 (if you want VOLTE from VZW) and have everything still work okay. When I had a VZW Moto X (XT1060) Developer Edition with an unlocked bootloader, firmware from other Ghost variants worked just fine (e.g., T-Mobile's 4.4.3 build released before Verizon's eventual skip to 4.4.4). If XT1225,XT1250, and XT1254 are all quark boards, think this could work?
I would love to sell my XT1254 and pick up the XT1250 if it meant getting xposed back... I'd even be fine with Verizon's firmware with 4.4.4+VOLTE+Xposed and waiting for the XT1254 to get 5.0.2 w/ VOLTE since flashing the XT1225 lollipop build would result in loss of VOLTE and thus simultaneous voice+data.
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Just got this email so it doesn't even matter:
What does that mean for you? As of 3/31 your Softcard app will no longer work. You can continue to use the Softcard app until 3/31. After that your Account will be closed.
Wonder if we get another OTA to remove the app.
It would be so cool if the phone had LTE band 20 enabled.
I'm hoping Moto will release another phone at some point that is not close to 6" and supports band 20
i hope some mod can sticky this thread, there were like 30 threads in Q&A and general asking this information
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I do have a Verizon SIM, but it is for my Galaxy S3. I'll either cut and sand it, or go to a Verizon store and tell them I bought a phone on ebay and need a new nano SIM. I'm still holding off on getting the phone from Thumb until I know more about everything. Hopefully I can track down a vendor or a better source to buy the phone (one that will offer a return policy).
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Did you end up buying the phone from Thumb? Or anywhere else for that matter?
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Did you end up buying the phone from Thumb? Or anywhere else for that matter?
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I ended up waiting cause I wanted to make sure everything would work, but never really saw anyone that got into detail what they could and couldn't do with the phone.
Then they released mofo, so I'm just getting it from Verizon now I think.
So a new line of phones is on the way, im just wondering what you guys think, will they ALL be locked down for us on VZW? or do you think theres any hope for a Dev Edition Droid or X? Maybe get lucky with something unbranded like the xt1250? Will hell freeze over and VZW will allow OEM unlock?
Basicly the question is there ANY hope for those who like Moto, VZW, and Unlocked phones?
if history is any indicator, there is close to zero hope outside a Nexus phone.
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if history is any indicator, there is close to zero hope outside a Nexus phone.
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So a new line of phones is on the way, im just wondering what you guys think, will they ALL be locked down for us on VZW? or do you think theres any hope for a Dev Edition Droid or X? Maybe get lucky with something unbranded like the xt1250? Will hell freeze over and VZW will allow OEM unlock?
Basicly the question is there ANY hope for those who like Moto, VZW, and Unlocked phones?
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For the upcoming 2015 models, let's look at recent history of last year's models...
Something like the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (same device, same FCC ID as the Verizon Droid Turbo which PROVES it's the same device; same CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands as the Droid Turb XT1254 -- but with unlock-able bootloader) will show up on the smaller, regional CDMA/LTE carriers.
These are actual standalone carriers, with their own spectrum -- NOT Verizon MVNOs. But they have roaming agreements with Verizon, and share in Verizon's hardware portfolio but their models are sold under different names/model numbers. However, these devices are IDENTICAL to the Verizon models, due to having the same FCC ID. That's all the proof you need.
The Verizon fanbois will be reluctant to admit it will exist because they like the believe the "exclusive" marketing LIES by Verizon. (Nothing about the Droid Turbo was exclusive to Verizon, except the "Droid" name -- because it's licensed by Verizon from Disney/LucasArts. Even the "Turbo" name was used by Motorola for another Quark phone.) This marketing lie was repeated verbatim by lazy bloggers/U.S. tech media who care more about Apple farts than anything Android-related.
These upcoming devices will work on the Verizon network just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6 -- and just like the XT1250 does.
When you find this device -- whatever the alternative model number/name is -- and buy it you will have to ensure it's unlocked from the carrier it's bought from since you will be paying full price. Again, this device will work on the Verizon network just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6. But it will be there -- just like the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is available for anyone who wants a "dev" edition of the XT1254.
The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is not to be confused with the International Moto Maxx XT1225 and Moto Turbo XT1225 (see even the Turbo name is not exclusive), which are also Moto Quark phones but do not have CDMA bands enabled, and have a slightly different mix of LTE bands. All the XT1225 models are the same device, in spite of having two model names (Moto Turob and Moto Maxx). Same FCC ID across all regions, same SKU.
See, there were basically two Motorola Quark phones -- with two different FCC IDs -- released under THREE model names:
FCC ID IHDT56PK1:
XT1254 U.S. Droid Turbo/XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx (identical device, CMDA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands -- except for model name). The XT1250 will run on Verizon, with a Verizon SIM card. This device has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13 enabled.
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XT1225 "international" Moto Turbo/XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx (identical device, GSM/HPSA/LTE bands, except for model names). This LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 enabled.
Of the two Quark models -- released under three models names (Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo, Droid Turbo) -- only the one with the model name "Droid Turbo" has locked down bootloader. The XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx is basically the "dev" version of the XT1254 "Droid Turbo" if you can get your hands on it. (unlock-able bootloader, can be easily rooted, TWRP installed, etc.)
I don't see why that would change for upcoming models. You just have to research and find what you need.
This has been the pattern the past few years, and I don't see why it would change, especially since Verizon can no longer lock out non-Verizon devices due to FCC agreement. They don't have to "activate" those devices, but if you swap in an already-activated SIM card will work just fine. Just like the non-Verizon Nexus 6.
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For the upcoming 2015 models, let's look at recent history of last year's models...
Something like the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (same device, same FCC ID as the Verizon Droid Turbo which PROVES it's the same device; same CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands as the Droid Turb XT1254 -- but with unlock-able bootloader) will show up on the smaller, regional CDMA/LTE carriers.
These are actual standalone carriers, with their own spectrum -- NOT Verizon MVNOs. But they have roaming agreements with Verizon, and share in Verizon's hardware portfolio but their models are sold under different names/model numbers. However, these devices are IDENTICAL to the Verizon models, due to having the same FCC ID. That's all the proof you need.
The Verizon fanbois will be reluctant to admit it will exist because they like the believe the "exclusive" marketing LIES by Verizon. (Nothing about the Droid Turbo was exclusive to Verizon, except the "Droid" name -- because it's licensed by Verizon from Disney/LucasArts. Even the "Turbo" name was used by Motorola for another Quark phone.) This marketing lie was repeated verbatim by lazy bloggers/U.S. tech media who care more about Apple farts than anything Android-related.
These upcoming devices will work on the Verizon network just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6 -- and just like the XT1250 does.
When you find this device -- whatever the alternative model number/name is -- and buy it you will have to ensure it's unlocked from the carrier it's bought from since you will be paying full price. Again, this device will work on the Verizon network just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6. But it will be there -- just like the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is available for anyone who wants a "dev" edition of the XT1254.
The XT1250 is not to be confused with the International Moto Maxx XT1225 and Moto Turbo XT1225 (see even the Turbo name is not exclusive), which are also Moto Quark phones but do not have CDMA bands enabled, and have a slightly different mix of LTE bands. All the XT1225 models are the same device, in spite of having two model names (Moto Turob and Moto Maxx). Same FCC ID across all regions, same SKU.
See, there were basically two Motorola Quark phones -- with two different FCC IDs -- released under THREE model names:
FCC ID IHDT56PK1: XT1254 U.S. Droid Turbo/XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx (identical device, CMDA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands -- except for model name). The XT1250 will run on Verizon, with a Verizon SIM card. This devices has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13 enabled.
FCC ID IHDT56PK2: XT1225 "international" Moto Turbo/XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx (identical device, GSM/HPSA/LTE bands, except for model names). This LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 enabled.
Of the two Quark models -- released under three models names -- only the one with the model name "Droid Turbo" has locked down bootloader. The XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx is basically the "dev" version of the XT1254 "Droid Turbo" if you can get your hands on it.
I don't see why that would change for upcoming models. You just have to research and find what you need.
This has been the pattern the past few years, and I don't see why it would change, especially since Verizon can no longer lock out non-Verizon devices due to FCC agreement. They don't have to "activate" those devices, but if you swap in an already-activated SIM card will work just fine. Just like the non-Verizon Nexus 6.
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this is exactly why im asking. im moving cross country in about a month going through several of these local carrier areas, so ill be able to go in to one of there physical stores a buy a XT1250 soon. but now with the new motos coming out im wondering if i should hold off.
I've had 4 VZW Android phones. The Turbo is the only one, so far, with a bootloader that can't be unlocked for free.
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Yes, all of the Verizon bootloader will be locked. Seems like a silly question.
Whether that will by bypassed or cracked is another story. Although bootloader unlocking is getting extremely difficult, so is very unlikely.
Obviously root is still a possibility though.
100 who ever can unlock the next gen droid nexus
JasonJoel said:
Yes, all of the Verizon bootloader will be locked. Seems like a silly question.
Whether that will by bypassed or cracked is another story. Although bootloader unlocking is getting extremely difficult, so is very unlikely.
Obviously root is still a possibility though.
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Is not a silly question at all. In fact yours was a silly (and wrong) reply.
1. I'm sending this message now from my xt1080m dev edition and official Verizon device with a oem unlockable bootloader.
2. The nexus 6 is currently available from Verizon. Oem unlockable.
3. Next gen moto x's were just announced to be universal (none carrier specific), and unlockable.
It's a brave new world.
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Next gen moto x's were just announced to be universal (none carrier specific), and unlockable.
It's a brave new world.
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But for the next gen Moto X, you will have to buy a non-Verizon model straight from Motorola website. Fantastic you will be able to do that but means Verizon still has not changed their "lock the bootloader!" ways. It's just that they can no longer block non-Verizon branded devices from connecting to their LTE network if those devices are compatible. (like a non-Verizon Nexus 6 or a U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 -- same device as the Droid Turbo.)
Motorola gladly unlocked ALL Quarks, except for the Verizon branded one, because Verizon would not let them. To this day, Verizon will not let them unlock the XT1254, even though the XT1250 (sold by smaller regional CMDA/LTE carriers) is IDENTICAL and runs on Verizon with a Verizon LTE card. The XT1250 can be unlocked because Verizon has no control over it.
Yes there are a few exceptions - nexus 6 for example.
All of the Verizon branded, non-nexus non-developer edition phones will continue to have locked boot loaders. Period.
So for Verizon, get a Nexus, developer, or 'pure' device if you want an unlocked bootloader.
So I stand by my original statement, just with a few qualifications.
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But for the next gen Moto X, you will have to buy a non-Verizon model straight from Motorola website. Fantastic you will be able to do that but means Verizon still has not changed their "lock the bootloader!" ways. It's just that they can no longer block non-Verizon branded devices from connecting to their LTE network if those devices are compatible. (like a non-Verizon Nexus 6 or a U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 -- same device as the Droid Turbo.)
Motorola gladly unlocked ALL Quarks, except for the Verizon branded one, because Verizon would not let them. To this day, Verizon will not let them unlock the XT1254, even though the XT1250 (sold by smaller regional CMDA/LTE carriers) is IDENTICAL and runs on Verizon with a Verizon LTE card. The XT1250 can be unlocked because Verizon has no control over it.
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yes, you need to look forward, cuz those days might be over. Motorola is spitting in the carriers faces and if it is profitable to them the rest for the companys will copy it. just like everything thing else in the cellular industry. the days of service providers pretending to be software developers is ending. and not a moment to soon
IMO unless Google changes their policy, I'd not expect Verizon or AT&T offering unlockable devices (that are not Nexus nor developer edition). Both cases generally have a workaround though; AT&T will work with any GSM phone that has the right bands (aka XT1225) and Verizon will work with an active 4G SIM also with a phone that has the right bands (aka XT1250). So what you simply need is to have a non-Verizon or non-AT&T version, that's it.
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IMO unless Google changes their policy, I'd not expect Verizon or AT&T offering unlockable devices (that are not Nexus nor developer edition). Both cases generally have a workaround though;
AT&T will work with any GSM phone that has the right bands (aka XT1225) and
Verizon will work with an active 4G SIM also with a phone that has the right bands (aka XT1250).
So what you simply need is to have a non-Verizon or non-AT&T version, that's it.
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And Verizon fanbois don't believe the marketing hype about "exclusive" devices for Verizon. For the Droid Turbo XT1250, the only thing exclusive was the "Droid" name. The exact same device with the exact same FCC ID was sold with the exact same specs and bands by other U.S. CDMA/LTE carriers as the XT1250 (U.S. Moto Maxx).
Motorola even used the "Turbo" part of the name for the Moto Turbo XT1225, which was a Quark sibling.
When Verizon says you can only buy the "Droid Turbo" at Verizon, they mean you can only buy the "tramp stamped" version at Verizon. You can buy the same phone elsewhere under a different name, with the same FCC ID -- with unlockable bootloader. The OTHER phone is actually a better phone!
By the way, for those looking for 64GB Moto MAXX XT1250, this CDMA/LTE carrier in Oklahoma seems to have one:
http://sprocketwireless.com/product/moto-maxx-xt-1250/
Moto Maxx XT 1250
No Contract: $725.00
Product Description
Display 5.2-inch AMOLED, Quad HD (1440 x 2560 pixels), 565 ppi
Processor 2.7 Ghz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 805, Adreno 420
RAM 3GB
Camera Rear: 21MP. Front: 2MP
Battery 3,900 mAh
Storage 64GB, non-expandable
Networks 3G, LTE
Connectivity GPS, microUSB 2.0, WiFi a/b/g/n/ac, NFC, Bluetooth 4.0
Software Android 4.4 Kitkat
Dimensions 143.5 x 73.3 x 11.2mm – 176 g
Colors Black, Red
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You just have to convince them to sell it to you out of their market area... Tell them it's a gift for a relative or something...
One other carrier listed a 64GB months ago, but when people called to buy it, they were told it was an error in the website listing, that they only had 32GB in stock. So, confirm before you buy.
moto x play (style everywhere else in world) will be compatible with att, tmobile and verizon and will come directly from motorola.
to avoid all this carrier mess we have with locked bootloaders, motorola has listened.
check the networks:
http://www.motorola.com/on/demandwa...a_WE-Site/en/Product-Show?pid=moto-x-style-we
off course will be bootloader unlockable.
Jaocagomez said:
moto x play (style everywhere else in world) will be compatible with att, tmobile and verizon and will come directly from motorola.
to avoid all this carrier mess we have with locked bootloaders, motorola has listened.
check the networks:
http://www.motorola.com/on/demandwa...a_WE-Site/en/Product-Show?pid=moto-x-style-we
off course will be bootloader unlockable.
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Moto X Pure is what the Moto X Style is called in the U.S. Moto X Play is another device, rumors are it's a Droid Turbo variant for EU folks.
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There also are rumours about Droid Turbo 2.
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There also are rumours about Droid Turbo 2.
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This, i might be interested if they release an international bootloader free variant of it.
They won't. The international version will be the 'Play' model - which won't be the exact same as the Turbo 2 like the Turbo/Maxx were.
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There also are rumours about Droid Turbo 2.
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This, i might be interested if they release an international bootloader free variant of it.
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They won't. The international version will be the 'Play' model - which won't be the exact same as the Turbo 2 like the Turbo/Maxx were.
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Current rumors are the Droid Turbo 2 will NOT be based on the Play model. You are thinking of the Droid Maxx 2, which will be the mid-tier 2015 Droid model.
Looks like Verizon will have two Droid models this year. (Not that I care about Verizon, but I have the international version of the Quark running on AT&T and am curious about the successor model.)
The top-tier model will be code name "Bounce" to replace the "Quark". Droid Turbo 2 for Verizon and Moto X Force for international. It will have a slightly smaller size (5.43") than the X Play (5.5") and yet have a larger battery. And it should still have unlock-able bootloader. No reason for it not to have it.
To be released in December, will probably have Android 6.0 Marshmallow already installed.
Current leaks show at least one variant that looks like dark blue Ballistic Nylon? (which in the Quark was really ballistic nylon + kevlar.)
http://www.mnrdaily.com/article/mot...eaks.to.come.out.in.different.colors/3705.htm
Motorola has already released two new smartphones under the Moto X series namely the Moto X Play and Moto X Style. Motorola is expected to market these devices in various regions across the world in different names and possibly with some unique feature for a particular region. There were rumors earlier of Motorola launching a new smartphone by the end of the year that would be called as Moto Bounce.
But yesterday, new reports claimed that the rumored Moto Bounce smartphone would be launched as the Moto X Force, which would be a shatterproof handset. Serial tipster @upleaks had posted an unofficial press render of the Moto Bounce, which he claimed would arrive in the market as the Moto X Force.
This time, @upleaks has posted a second series of renders that depicts the Moto X Force in three color variations available for the back cover. The Moto X Force is expected to be highly resistant to impact and shocks, and is considered to be shatterproof.
In terms of design, the Moto X Force appears similar to the Moto X Play, but is expected to arrive with different specifications. The Moto X Force will feature a 5.43 inch QHD display and will be powered by QUALCOMM's Snapdragon 810 processor, paired with 3GB of RAM. The Moto X Force will be available in 32GB and 64GB variants of on-board storage, and will sport a 21MP rear camera along with a 5MP front facing camera. The handset will pack a 3760mAh battery and is likely to run on Google's latest Android operating system.
The rumored specifications list suggests that the Moto X Force will be superior to the Moto X Style in terms of processor and battery size, and will have a smaller screen size, though the QHD display will deliver a better viewing experience.
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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/8...-again-this-time-in-various-color-options.htm
The mobile device will also include a 3,760mAh battery. (Because the Quark's 3900 mAh was too much?) To be released in December, the Moto X Force will probably come running on Android 6.0 Marshmallow straight out of the box.
If the leaked images are to be believed, then the upcoming handset will have two speaker grills at the bottom of the display screen.
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This person isn't sure the grills at the bottom are speakers. If not what are they?
http://phandroid.com/2015/09/04/mot...posed-again-shows-off-mysterious-new-sensors/
Late last evening, @Upleaks returned with a handful of new press renders, this time of the phone prominently displayed in white, along with red, white, and blue color options (‘Merica). The best part about the newly leaked white color is we get a much better look at Motorola’s strange sensors. You can see the dots — which are the same IR sensors that come on the Moto X Style — but what’s really interesting is the elongated ones which definitely aren’t speakers/mic... why wouldn’t they use the same grill as the top of the phone?.
So, what exactly are they? We have no clue. We’re hoping that huge chin bezel serves more purpose than simple hand gestures, perhaps hiding a fingerprint reader underneath. We saw Qualcomm experimenting with this technology back during Mobile World Congress, so it’s not too far fetched an idea.
One thing we want to point out on the leaked backs are the different accent colors surrounding the camera module. This could be a hint that the phone will also be available on Moto Maker for buyers to customize. We’ll keep our fingers crossed. As it stands, we’re going to hold off on all these new Androids until Motorola can at least make this device official. Don’t want to make any hasty decisions.
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Looking online I see numerous different model numbers for the e4. Plus, I'm seeing there's a "plus" model, a prime model, some with finger print readers and some without. What's the deal with them having so many different crazy variants of this handset?
That's another thing that confused me too was I was told via both a review online and an in store rep the e4 has a finger print reader but I learned after opening the box it didn't and come to find out the Sprint (boost/virgin) models don't. I'm so confused.
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Looking online I see numerous different model numbers for the e4. Plus, I'm seeing there's a "plus" model, a prime model, some with finger print readers and some without. What's the deal with them having so many different crazy variants of this handset?
That's another thing that confused me too was I was told via both a review online and an in store rep the e4 has a finger print reader but I learned after opening the box it didn't and come to find out the Sprint (boost/virgin) models don't. I'm so confused.
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Yeah, some carriers had made their own version of the phone. Like Boost mobile has a version, Verizon has a version. Some have a finger print scanner and some don't. If you want the Moto E4 with a fingerprint scanner and unlockable bootloader, go on Amazon and there should be one for about 130$. That version (XT1768) Should work with most carriers.
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Yeah, some carriers had made their own version of the phone. Like Boost mobile has a version, Verizon has a version. Some have a finger print scanner and some don't. If you want the Moto E4 with a fingerprint scanner and unlockable bootloader, go on Amazon and there should be one for about 130$. That version (XT1768) Should work with most carriers.
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Aren't all of the bootloader's aside the VZW variant able to be unlocked? I'm reading up on it now because I'm planning to try and root this device. I'm currently using the XT1766 model with boost.
While I feel slightly annoyed I was ripped of a finger print reader it's not a terrible deal as long as I can uninstall all this crazy bloatware.
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Aren't all of the bootloader's aside the VZW variant able to be unlocked? I'm reading up on it now because I'm planning to try and root this device. I'm currently using the XT1766 model with boost.
While I feel slightly annoyed I was ripped of a finger print reader it's not a terrible deal as long as I can uninstall all this crazy bloatware.
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The Verizon variant has a permanent locked bootloader, so far nobody can unlock it. And all of the other variants except for the Amazon prime model should have unlocked bootloader's. You should be able to uninstall some bloatware on stock if you properly root.
Hi, not wanting to create a new topic, so I'll just pop my question here.
I have a mediatek e4, xt1760.
Are the roms in the dev section to specific xt176x or as long as it's in the mediatek section I need not be concern with the variant version?
I apologies if this question has been asked.
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Hi, not wanting to create a new topic, so I'll just pop my question here.
I have a mediatek e4, xt1760.
Are the roms in the dev section to specific xt176x or as long as it's in the mediatek section I need not be concern with the variant version?
I apologies if this question has been asked.
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If it doesn't mention it in the op for a particular rom, I'm sure it's fine to ask in that thread. Someone will likely answer. Of course you might get a good answer here too.
It seems that the Verizon version is XT1767 while the unlocked version is XT1768. According to frequencycheck.com, the XT1767 has less frequencies supported than the XT1768.
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It seems that the Verizon version is XT1767 while the unlocked version is XT1768. According to frequencycheck.com, the XT1767 has less frequencies supported than the XT1768.
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Correct.
I think most of the variants are just different radios for connecting to various types of towers. To cut costs, some carriers like Verizon only include radio support for their own towers and only basic support for roaming, meaning that while the device might be able to be unlocked and used on other networks, it might not be able to use the other network's towers fully because it doesn't support their frequencies.
In addition, the firmware on different variants could be different, for example the hardware of the Sprint Moto E4 and Boost Mobile Moto E4 are almost identical, but the firmware image has apps specific to that carrier that wouldn't work on other carriers.
Some variants have an entirely different internal structure, using the Mediatek or Qualcomm chipsets, which is sometimes because the radio chipsets needed for US carriers aren't as compatible with non-Qualcomm chipsets.
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I think most of the variants are just different radios for connecting to various types of towers. To cut costs, some carriers like Verizon only include radio support for their own towers and only basic support for roaming, meaning that while the device might be able to be unlocked and used on other networks, it might not be able to use the other network's towers fully because it doesn't support their frequencies.
In addition, the firmware on different variants could be different, for example the hardware of the Sprint Moto E4 and Boost Mobile Moto E4 are almost identical, but the firmware image has apps specific to that carrier that wouldn't work on other carriers.
Some variants have an entirely different internal structure, using the Mediatek or Qualcomm chipsets, which is sometimes because the radio chipsets needed for US carriers aren't as compatible with non-Qualcomm chipsets.
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The Sprint and boost versions are completely identical (sprint owns boost) and they provision upon activation and any carrier specific apps are loaded from the oem partition. Same for the virgin mobile version.