Hi everybody,
I've have my Axon 7 for almost a year now. Been using it quite intensively, mostly for gaming, taking advantage of the fast charging and going through 2, sometimes 3 battery cycles per day.
For some time how, I've began noticing my phone running slower than before and that it generated more heat doing the usual tasks. I don't know if the slowness stems from the heat or the heat comes from wear and tear on the phone. Anways, I was looking for things I can do to make it run smoother.
- Will be to looking to switch to Lineage OS, perhaps I'll have a bump in smoothness. Do you think that will help?
- Can dust accumulate in the device and make heat exchange less efficient? Should I open it and shoot some compressed air at the motherboard or something?
- Does the heat come from old, overused battery? Will swapping the battery for a new OEM one help?
Thanks in advance!
Wipe the cache or do a factory reset
Check how much storage u got left.
And right, a factory reset or and wiping cashes could help too
Edit: for fast and buttery rom give dark rom a chance.
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I've had my new phone for almost two weeks now and noticed that it runs uncomfortably warm. I noticed this right at the start in fact, a few minutes after I first turned it on, but as the built-in apps updated themselves I knew that would heat it up. It still got warm afterwards though, even before I installed my usual apps and transferred my data to it. Just having it switched on and fiddling about with the built-in apps was enough to make it heat up significantly after about 10 minutes use.
I then installed Battery Circle which reported a toasty 43 degrees centigrade. This seems rather too hot for comfort and the battery drain is quite significant - it dropped from 100% to 75% in just under two hours of use (not totally continuous) of web browsing, BBC and Facebook apps etc so I wonder, is there a hardware problem with my phone or if it's just the 808 chipset that's prone to running hot and hence normal for this model? Overall battery life even with moderate use isn't exactly fantastic, either and rather worse than my old Moto G (2014).
I did Google it, but couldn't find anything conclusive, even on XDA, with quite a lot of people seeing this issue and an equal number not seeing it, so can anyone shed some light on it? Is the upcoming Marshmallow update with its improved power management likely to alleviate it?
Although I like the phone and the performance is very good, I might just return it because of this issue and get a different phone. Prerequisites are stereo speakers and a minimum of 2GB RAM for smooth, stutter-free operation, everything else is not so critical. Any suggestions for alternatives? I paid about £350 for it off Amazon and would like to spend about the same on a possible replacement.
Same here, just browsing internet for 10 minutes, and phone turns noticeable hot.
Android 6.0 installed yesterday, same hot issue in the new ROM ( bootloader locked, ROM stock, recovery Stock)
Purchased in Amazon (399 + tax)
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I own MXS XT1572 (Indian dual sim variant) and it does not get as hot as you say... but yes, after 1 hour of internet browsing it does get hot enough to feel uncomfortable in hand. 10 minutes is something I noticed in one of my friend's Moto X Pure... and another friend has no issue with his moto x pure...
So maybe yes it can be a problem with half of the devices...
Well, good thing about 6.0 update is: temp is about 10degrees cooler from lollipop. I been doing the exact same thing and noticed the change. Pretty much constant gaming with full gpu use. Must be updated kernel or gpu. I'm hoping devs can look into this and come up with a rom/kernel to tweak these settings little bit more to make this device solid and put heating issue to bed.
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chindynasty said:
Well, good thing about 6.0 update is: temp is about 10degrees cooler from lollipop. I been doing the exact same thing and noticed the change. Pretty much constant gaming with full gpu use. Must be updated kernel or gpu. I'm hoping devs can look into this and come up with a rom/kernel to tweak these settings little bit more to make this device solid and put heating issue to bed.
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That's great news.
Been using it over the last couple of days in this colder winter weather without it getting excessively warm. It looks like it's quite sensitive to the ambient temperature, so I wouldn't be surprised if it suffered thermal runaway on a really hot day and burned itself out.
Do you people recommends to send this phone to warranty with this issue?
Just using Chrome for 5 minutes and battery show 42 degrees (celcius) , i dont remember any other app doing the same thing
Thanks in advance
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XT1068 said:
I've had my new phone for almost two weeks now and noticed that it runs uncomfortably warm. I noticed this right at the start in fact, a few minutes after I first turned it on, but as the built-in apps updated themselves I knew that would heat it up. It still got warm afterwards though, even before I installed my usual apps and transferred my data to it. Just having it switched on and fiddling about with the built-in apps was enough to make it heat up significantly after about 10 minutes use.
I then installed Battery Circle which reported a toasty 43 degrees centigrade. This seems rather too hot for comfort and the battery drain is quite significant - it dropped from 100% to 75% in just under two hours of use (not totally continuous) of web browsing, BBC and Facebook apps etc so I wonder, is there a hardware problem with my phone or if it's just the 808 chipset that's prone to running hot and hence normal for this model? Overall battery life even with moderate use isn't exactly fantastic, either and rather worse than my old Moto G (2014).
I did Google it, but couldn't find anything conclusive, even on XDA, with quite a lot of people seeing this issue and an equal number not seeing it, so can anyone shed some light on it? Is the upcoming Marshmallow update with its improved power management likely to alleviate it?
Although I like the phone and the performance is very good, I might just return it because of this issue and get a different phone. Prerequisites are stereo speakers and a minimum of 2GB RAM for smooth, stutter-free operation, everything else is not so critical. Any suggestions for alternatives? I paid about £350 for it off Amazon and would like to spend about the same on a possible replacement.
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Do you have a new phone? You sen the old one to RMA ?
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I was running the battery dead out-of-the-box due to Google shovelware. Disabling as many Google apps as possible and using a browser with an ad blocker has me ending the day at 45%. If you have any ad spewing apps, get rid of them too. Buy or find ad-free versions of your apps.
So following on from the issues with the Note this may seem like I am trolling but I am not.
I and my son have new S7 (not the Edge) on Vodafone. It is the best phone I have ever had both in terms of software and size. Fits my hand perfectly.
My son thinks the same however he is reporting that when the battery gets to about 30% the consumption/drain seems to get faster and the handset heats up. Typically around 1600 each day.
I don't get that as an issue. Occassionally the handset has heated up a bit but typically after heavy web use.
I have suggested he makes sure it is backing up and do a factory reset.
Any thoughts as to what may be causing the problem?
Navrig said:
So following on from the issues with the Note this may seem like I am trolling but I am not.
I and my son have new S7 (not the Edge) on Vodafone. It is the best phone I have ever had both in terms of software and size. Fits my hand perfectly.
My son thinks the same however he is reporting that when the battery gets to about 30% the consumption/drain seems to get faster and the handset heats up. Typically around 1600 each day.
I don't get that as an issue. Occassionally the handset has heated up a bit but typically after heavy web use.
I have suggested he makes sure it is backing up and do a factory reset.
Any thoughts as to what may be causing the problem?
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Without knowing what apps he's got running it's not possible to know what's causing the issue. On a side note, you should top off your battery whenever you can. Letting the battery drain very low and then charging back to 100% will decrease the performance of the battery. Is he playing Pokemon perhaps? Cheers!
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Without knowing what apps he's got running it's not possible to know what's causing the issue. On a side note, you should top off your battery whenever you can. Letting the battery drain very low and then charging back to 100% will decrease the performance of the battery. Is he playing Pokemon perhaps? Cheers!
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Thanks Dyno.
AS far as I know he is either in class at university or in the library. He will be using wi-fi to look up technical references as well as social media. I don't think it is heavy use as he should be studying!! He wont be playing Pokemon.
I'll pass on your comments/advice on the battery.
Try downloading malwarebytes from playstore! I just installed a rogue apk file called UPSM manager v.3.5 from apkfiles.com. Phone started to heat up without any usage . Checked GSam and my temps were at 36-37 c! And also warm to touch so i scanned my device with malwarebytes. Removed the malware and now my phone is back to 31-34c .Cool to touch ! Another advice is to disable fast charging and charge it whenever you can just like navrig said. Don't let it drain to below 40%. Once or twice won't hurt in a week but every day is going to wear and tear the battery life cycle. Hope this helps!
Navrig said:
So following on from the issues with the Note this may seem like I am trolling but I am not.
Any thoughts as to what may be causing the problem?
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I'm having this problem also.
Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.
paco_ramirez said:
Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.
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Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.
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Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.
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Thank you very much for your information. Any suggestion about a new battery? I've seen this one.
I've just plugged off from 100% and I got a battery drain of 5% just by speaking 15 minutes (no hand-free). I think it's a very big battery drain for just a small talk. I think that confirm your hypothesis of the wasted battery.
Is there any way to know the real capacity of the battery I currently have? It is just to know how far it is from its original performance.
I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.
paco_ramirez said:
I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.
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How old is your battery? Mah rating and the rate it discharges are different you can discharge 2600 mah batter in an hour or 3 days depending on use and environment and conditions. Like I said before the hotter your battery gets the faster the disharge go same with the cpu the hotter it gets the more power it demands from the battery. And if your battery get under 20% fast charging comes. Into play as well which is bad for the battery as well.
If your dropping off that fast I think is a defective battery or over clocked cpu settings. My s5 did he same till I bought a new battery I last 8-12 hours of heavy use now compared to 4 hours. With a new battery I suggest a higher capacity but same dimensions as the old one they can be expensive but a bigger battery will damage your phone over time.
I have a 5600mah battery now by 5he way.
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Oh my power app tells me I have 2520 too but I really dont....heh
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Oh that battery looks OK I can't read the language lol just make sure its not refurbished or used and check out if u can refund it or not lol
My battery is from October 2015. It's the original one that came with the phone
Here is last report:
Despite performance is not the worst, do you think the difference with a new one is very big?
Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind
I myself lose the first ~10% of my charge in one hour or even less...while not doing literally anything with my screen off. So yeah, maybe it's gonna be time for another replacement in a few months
By the way I tried Greenify today. The drain was far worse than when I didn't have it installed lol. Android Marshmallow is finally that one guy who's capable of handling himself alone without helpers like Greenify so try without it, it eats up your CPU anyway (as minimal as it can be, it still does).
With 3G always enabled I can get between 3 and 4 hours of screen on time (no games ofcourse) and around, idk, 10 hours total time until it hits below 10% and asks for some juice.
This^ was simply impossible with android 4.4.2 on the same phone so 6.0.1 really impressed me a lot as I had awful memories of Lollipop (that's why I didn't update for so long actually).
To sum up: try all the software ways of extending your battery life - with/without Greenify, uninstall/disable/optimise certain apps like Facebook and Spotify (says they slow down my phone), change ROMs, change kernels, change settings and if nothing works get a new battery.
PS: When Samsung go back on track and put a removable battery + all old features in a new flagship, I'm switching to that (S9, S10, SX, whatever xd). Newer phones got water cooling (~30 degrees while gaming, S5 gets 36-40C).
Thank you very much for your long answer. Honestly I don't trust too much battery savers. I've tried in the past many of them with no visible results. In fact greenify has never shown me any benefit. Notwithstanding, in this specific case, I've seen that hibernating "mi fit" (from xiaomi) I can appreciate a considerable improvement (5-10% of gain). I own a mi band and apart from keeping Bluetooth on (which seems not to be a big drainer) mi fit abuses of this connection. In fact "tools & mi band" seems to be more energy efficient with the connection to the mi band.
In any case I'll order a new one as it is not normal to have the drain for 100 to 90 being off and idle
I've changed old battery for a new one and I haven't seen any considerable improvement. After it, I've done a factory reset and a battery calibration (using the app on the store that requires root) and nothing... Any suggestion? I have the feeling that new battery is OK but somehow my phone is unable to take advantage of its performance...
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Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind :..
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Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..
Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!
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Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)
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Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)
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Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!
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Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!
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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.
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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.
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OK I'll go ahead with this. Good guide to reflash stock rom?
I'll do several factory resets to see if it helps, but I start to think that it's black magic
Thanks
Sorry for the delay in replaying but I've made several attempts with not specially good results.
Now I'm getting 24 hours battery with 2h SOC for WhatsApp and browsing. Furthermore, I use Bluetooth for the miband.
The battery drop from 100 to 90 still remains. Maybe it's smoother but significant.
I've changed battery, changed roms (several times wiping everything). I've tried battery calibration app from rooted devices. I've tried the calibration procedure for non root devices (here I think I've obtained a little bit of improvement) but in general I have the feeling my phone is not detecting well the capacity of the battery (either new or old). Any tip? Advice?. Could it be the charging circuit? Can it be fixed? Should I keep doing calibrations more often to see if I grasp more capacity little by little?
Thanks for your time and help
Hi guys,
I just got a second hand Note 4.
Outer look is in perfect shape.
But, after 4-5 minutes, just surfing the menu and settings, it gets really hot.
I did wipe cache/factory reset, but no change.
Battery seems to discharges fastly...
What do you think ?
2 things could help you.
1. flash a custom rom on your phone.
There are plenty of them right now, in a high level of creation and excellent support in their theads.
pick one from here and try it out.
Custom roms are more effective in handling memory/ CPU and use less background apps, so keep the phone more effectively working and with no so much battery consumption.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev
2. IF even in custom rom, battery seems to discharge very fast, you may need to replace your battery.
If though, none of the above seem to help, you may be stepping in the emmc bug, a lot of Note 4 have had the latest years.
just in case take a look here so make a comparison with the symptoms on your phone
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/snapdragon-dev/note-4-debrick-img-t3488114
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/note-4-freezing-restarting-t3348821
Thanks for your info,!
I was already planning to go RR rom..
So I got one of these for the wife this Christmas. She's upgrading from an Oppo F1 and I can't wait to see the look on her face.
She'll likely be using this phone for the next 4 years, so what steps can I take to make sure it lasts that long?
1. Change to a slow charger to prolong battery life. Keep charge between 20 and 80%. Maybe undervolt the GPU so it doesn't overheat.
2. Screen and camera lens protectors. Any experience with these impacting usability?
3. Find a way to install Lineage OS when security updates for OOS dry up. Without the faff of losing data and having to restore from backup.
4. Any other recommendations?
Point 3 is the trickiest. I've read the horror stories with the lpddr4 vs 5 mixup.
I've heard OOS13 is running smoother, so probably will leave it for now. But is there anything I can do now to make the switch to LineageOS easier in the future?
Wife won't let me touch the phone if I say there will be data loss and have to restore from backup.
She'll just end up using an unsecure phone, like with her current Oppo.
Anyway, can't wait to hear your thoughts. Much appreciated