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want your GS2 as close as possible to stock with PHENOMENAL battery life? READ THIS!

This is my first post on xda, but don´t underestimate me because of that. In fact, I´ve been following all the GS2 sections and read ALL the tutorials since i got my phone a couple of months ago. Never needed to open an account here to do all the customizations on my phone; This should tell a lot about the completeness of this forum (i.e. SEARCH, there´s a 95% chance that your question is already answered in some thread).
In fact i´m baffled by the amount of people that appears to be unhappy with their phones, doing lots of changes in kernels, roms, themes, etc., looking to improve performance, battery life, fanciness or only for the sake of change. In my experience, you won´t get a "life changing" improvement in GS2 only by a software change. As official firmwares get more and more advanced, their performance delta in contrast with custom firmware gets smaller. The only two areas where the gap is still big lies on eye candy and usability. Moreover, with Ice Cream Sandwich knocking at the door, there´s no additional functionality coming from newer Gingerbread firmware versions.
The customization I have done involves kernel and rom, and prioritize stability and energy comsumption over up to date firmware (as i said in the last paragraph, ICS is not ready yet and latter gingerbread versions doesn´t bring anything new). With that, I could achieve a battery life of 3+ days with average use; For demonstration, i´ve just checked my phone and it shows 2 days and 15 hours with 60% charge. Naturally I am not a heavy user, and the phone is deep sleeping on average 80% of the time, but here on the forum is generally assumed that a drain of 1%/hour is very good mark, so i guess this combo provides excellent battery life (0,6%/hour). I can testify it´s rock solid as well - I´ve been using it for almost a month without any FCs or reboots. And this scheme doesn´t involve underclocking at all, so don´t worry about performance.
Unfortunately (at least for the "spooners") this guide won´t have any images, just links to the respective threads - I´m assuming you do want to learn and read to get your information. The main purpose of this guide is to point a safe/fast/easy way of doing all the stuff, avoiding the need to read all the tutorials and choose the best route among many roads that lead to the same place in the end. The target reader is the complete beginner, who has a desire to learn and unlock his phone in a safe way. Naturally i am not responsible if you blow up your phone or something like that while following this guide; I´ve followed this and it works on my phone, that´s all i can say. I will describe here exactly what i did, step by step, since i opened that damned box
So without further ado, this is it:
1) Getting root
1.1) Install the samsung drivers and software (KIES) on your computer ( http://www.samsung.com/ae/support/d...d_mdl_name=GT-I9100/M16&srchword=Galaxy+S+II# )
1.2) Download the zergrush exploit (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582). If needed (and you will), read the zergrush guide on the respective thread. Warning: There´s a chance that your phone firmware is already patched, so this exploit won´t work.
1.2.1) IF AND ONLY IF zergush doesn´t work on your phone, you will have to use Odin to flash CF-Root (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399). Read the thread.
2) Backup
2.0) Although you can do all the flashing with Odin, i must assume i´m a lazy person, so i bought Mobile Odin from Android Market. It simplifies A LOT the process of flashing things on the GS2, and as a bonus it doesn´t change the rom counter on the phone! (Read this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899)
2.1) It´s an excellent idea to download CF-Root kernel for your kernel version and flash it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399 - read the thread to know how to find your kernel version), then enter clockworkmod recovery and do a backup of your internal card (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118693).
2.2) After getting root, install Titanium Backup (from android store) and backup everything you need on the phone. Backup the efs folder as well (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308546).
2.3) Store all backups you made in a safe place (that means away from your phone). Pray to the Android gods with faith, and you will never have to use them.
3) Customization
3.1) Download firmware version KK2 (http://www.multiupload.com/PBBE9HBXTS). Flash it, then enter CWM and clean cache and Dalvik. After that, you will lose root, all your customizations and all installed software. PS: Here in Brazil the last firmware version is 2.3.4, so this version still brings many improvements. If you already have a newer version on your phone, keep it.
3.2) Download CF-Root kernel for KK2 (see step 2.1). Flash it on your phone to get root back.
3.3) Install Titanium Backup again and use the backup you did on step 2.2 to get all your software back, including Mobile Odin if you bought it.
3.4) Download Ninphetamine kernel version 2.1.3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179814) and flash it.
3.5) Install voltage control (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829731) and use it to do the following settings:
* General - don´t change anything
* Voltages : 200 mhz / 850 mv ; 500 mhz / 850 mv ; 800 mhz / 950 mv ; 1000 mhz / 1050 mv ; 1200 mhz / 1150 mv
3.6) Download Bloat Freezer from android market and use it to freeze all stuff you don´t want. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069924)
And it´s done. You can continue from where i stopped, installing jkay mod for eye candy and more functionality (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154278), trying a custom firmware like Cyanogen, changing your kernel or doing God knows what. If you read all the stuff i´ve linked, i´m sure you can go on with your own legs from now on. The phone is yours to mess with!

You root with Zergush then you root with CF root then you flash firmware and wipe CF root then CF root again
Why not flash KK2 then cwm and root .
Or even just flash CWM root and do a nandroid backup then flash KK2 .
jje

Well, i just reproduced step by step what i did to customize my phone from the moment i opened the box. I was really afraid of changing the internal ROM counter, and was afraid as well of using odin, so i opted to use zergrush and buy mobile odin, and i still think that is the easiest and most secure way for the complete noob to customize his phone.
You are part right, because the KK2 firmware will not change the rom counter, but you must use odin to flash it. Mobile odin is easier, but if the reader is okay with using odin, in fact he will pass over many steps of the guide.
And when you say "You root with Zergush then you root with CF root", that´s not true. In fact, i recommend using zergrush and ONLY if it doesnt work you should use CF-Root instead.

b_sal said:
This is my first post on xda, but don´t underestimate me because of that.
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I'll try and give you the benefit of the doubt then.
b_sal said:
The customization I have done involves kernel and rom, and prioritize stability and energy comsumption over up to date firmware (as i said in the last paragraph, ICS is not ready yet and latter gingerbread versions doesn´t bring anything new). With that, I could achieve a battery life of 3+ days with average use
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Damn, I shouldn't have bothered.
Your post is written in such a way that it might fool an idiot into thinking you know what you're talking about, but it's pretty clear you don't. Let's see some of the things I took issue with in your post.
There's no such thing as "average use".
You recommend an old ROM.
Your "tutorial" involves several unnecessary, repeated steps (root, then flash a rooted kernel, then flash another rooted kernel ad infinitum?)
Your customisations are nothing more than undervolting which is specific to your device and some rather vague freeze stuff you don't want statement.
You finish the post by saying you can flash a different, AOSP based ROM, after all of the spam before it, negating everything.
Overall, good job.

JJEgan said:
You root with Zergush then you root with CF root then you flash firmware and wipe CF root then CF root again
Why not flash KK2 then cwm and root .
Or even just flash CWM root and do a nandroid backup then flash KK2 .
jje
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His kinda defying the point of his root method.

Ignoring the repetitions, the post's still very useful. I'm on a 2.3.4 ROM as well and the OP's right about the minimal delta improvements of gingerbread updates.

Okay, i think you are not getting the objectives of the post:
1) it reproduces exactly what a noob (me) did to unlock his phone.
2) I never said i know every single way of rooting the phone, and didn´t made this post to prove anything.
3) it´s not exactly meant for the senior members, or at least, the senior members should filter from the post only the info they judge is valid for them.
4) it´s very clear in the post that i´m prioritizing stability and battery life over firmware versions. So i guess you bashed before reading the part i say that.
5) i really did that in the good intention of helping newbies to find their way, reading the links i "spammed" on the guide. But I may be hurting more than helping, who knows? If so, sorry, i´ll get back to reading, i don´t really mind writing guides at all.

b_sal said:
Okay, i think you are not getting the objectives of the post:
1) it reproduces exactly what a noob (me) did to unlock his phone.
2) I never said i know every single way of rooting the phone, and didn´t made this post to prove anything.
3) it´s not exactly meant for the senior members, or at least, the senior members should filter from the post only the info they judge is valid for them.
4) it´s very clear in the post that i´m prioritizing stability and battery life over firmware versions. So i guess you bashed before reading the part i say that.
5) i really did that in the good intention of helping newbies to find their way, reading the links i "spammed" on the guide. But I may be hurting more than helping, who knows? If so, sorry, i´ll get back to reading, i don´t really mind writing guides at all.
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my friend by all means you have put all your information nicely organized and nicely put. you do have good intentions and please carry on doing what you are doing. but you need to re-evaluate what you have written because you might get people getting confused by what you are guiding them through. and plus they are already stickies regarding guides and the threads in development that helps people on how to root phones.
Give you one example you say to people the guide on how to zergrush exploit. and then you ask them do download a cf-root for something else. can not go through the whole thread. but you are asking people to re root twice with two different methods. hence why people above are pointing out to you...anyway good luck and hope you get the feedback you are looking for from this thread

Suarez7 said:
my friend by all means you have put all your information nicely organized and nicely put. you do have good intentions and please carry on doing what you are doing. but you need to re-evaluate what you have written because you might get people getting confused by what you are guiding them through. and plus they are already stickies regarding guides and the threads in development that helps people on how to root phones.
Give you one example you say to people the guide on how to zergrush exploit. and then you ask them do download a cf-root for something else. can not go through the whole thread. but you are asking people to re root twice with two different methods. hence why people above are pointing out to you...anyway good luck and hope you get the feedback you are looking for from this thread
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I guess that´s a good feedback on the post. I know there is a lot of guides on xda, and that´s a lot of information. Because of that, i had to read lots of tutorials, filter many of them saying mostly the same things, and assembling all the parts together in the end. So i thought of writing something that would unify all that, to make easier to the beginner and to avoid people having to read all the guides, like i had to do. I don´t feel the urge to do something perfect on my first post, but i fully acknowledge the need to edit the post and add more information about discarding some steps and adding alternative ways to get to the result. But in the end, i´m sure someone who follows it will as it is now won´t have any problems and will get the battery life i´m telling.

Download Ninphetamine kernel
your joking right, no doubt it was a good kernel at the time but it's old hat now technology advances everyday and there are far better kernels on here now that will offer much better battery life,etc,etc
I'm not knocking your post but most on here would know all of this already, noobs will just keep posting duplicate questions regardless of how many times they have already been answered previously.

oinkylicious said:
Let's see some of the things I took issue with in your post.
There's no such thing as "average use".
You recommend an old ROM.
Your "tutorial" involves several unnecessary, repeated steps (root, then flash a rooted kernel, then flash another rooted kernel ad infinitum?)
Your customisations are nothing more than undervolting which is specific to your device and some rather vague freeze stuff you don't want statement.
You finish the post by saying you can flash a different, AOSP based ROM, after all of the spam before it, negating everything.
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I think the post can be improved, so i´m taking your suggestions as well:
1) Okay, i think that expression can be changed.
2) I haven´t found any evidence of KK5 and latter improving battery life, that´s why i recommend KK2.
3) Like i said before, I was worried about the rom counter issue, and didn´t know i was going to flash an official firmware. I guess that if you want to install a custom firmware without incrementing the counter you must do what i did. If that´s not true, please let me know and i will change that.
4) Many people are using this same voltages on the forums without issues, and i just told what settings i use. Many beginners have this curiosity about what settings "everybody" is using.
5) In the end everybody is free to do whatever they want. If they read all the links and felt confidence about doing anything else, then the guide´s job is done in the same way.

jonny68 said:
Download Ninphetamine kernel
your joking right, no doubt it was a good kernel at the time but it's old hat now technology advances everyday and there are far better kernels on here now that will offer much better battery life,etc,etc
I'm not knocking your post but most on here would know all of this already, noobs will just keep posting duplicate questions regardless of how many times they have already been answered previously.
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You may call me an heretic or whatever, but i really don´t see the point of, say, Siyah kernel launching a new version every couple days. I´m using Ninphetamine and it does everything my phone can do. A mobile phone is not (yet) the same thing as a desktop computer, so it doesnt need kernels updated that fast. I ask in all my noobiness : What the newer kernels can do that this kernel can´t?

b_sal said:
4) Many people are using this same voltages on the forums without issues, and i just told what settings i use. Many beginners have this curiosity about what settings "everybody" is using.
5) In the end everybody is free to do whatever they want. If they read all the links and felt confidence about doing anything else, then the guide´s job is done in the same way.
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I think you're still missing the point a bit. The name of your thread is "want your GS2 as close as possible to stock with PHENOMENAL battery life? READ THIS!"
The thread doesn't really address anything relating to battery life (such as wakelocks, misbehaving applications, screen brightness, signal strength). Voltage modifications which work for you may not work for someone else and the battery savings are negligible. You also don't mention the risks involved.
Then, since you've pulled me up on me taking issue with you saying to flash CM7, I'll repeat. Your thread title is "want your GS2 as close as possible to stock with PHENOMENAL battery life? READ THIS!" CM7 is about as far from stock as you can get. Also, telling people to flash a custom kernel (Ninphetamine) and saying it's "as close as possible to stock" is pretty absurd.

jonny68 said:
Download Ninphetamine kernel
your joking right, no doubt it was a good kernel at the time but it's old hat now technology advances everyday and there are far better kernels on here now that will offer much better battery life,etc,etc
I'm not knocking your post but most on here would know all of this already, noobs will just keep posting duplicate questions regardless of how many times they have already been answered previously.
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One of the best kernels of all time. If it's not broken why fix it.
O/T I think we miss Harce. Post 5 was awesome most newb posts are post 5 material.
Look at VillainRom, see what base it is using, and why it's also a popular rom.
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oinkylicious said:
I think you're still missing the point a bit. The name of your thread is "want your GS2 as close as possible to stock with PHENOMENAL battery life? READ THIS!"
The thread doesn't really address anything relating to battery life (such as wakelocks, misbehaving applications, screen brightness, signal strength). Voltage modifications which work for you may not work for someone else and the battery savings are negligible. You also don't mention the risks involved.
Then, since you've pulled me up on me taking issue with you saying to flash CM7, I'll repeat. Your thread title is "want your GS2 as close as possible to stock with PHENOMENAL battery life? READ THIS!" CM7 is about as far from stock as you can get. Also, telling people to flash a custom kernel (Ninphetamine) and saying it's "as close as possible to stock" is pretty absurd.
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Since you´ve commented only about items 4 and 5, should i assume that you have nothing to say about items 1-3? I´m looking forward to read your opinion about that too.
You are damn right about item 4. For the sake of completeness i should warn about the risks of messing with voltages and the other topics you mentioned. You may not believe, but i really don´t see this thing as "my post" anymore. I guess we could improve on it and make it good , even if just for a person or two.
About item 5, i must disagree a little. Well, i say "as close as possible to stock" and not "stock". If i don´t change anything, so it´s stock, right? What you would define as "close to stock" then?
And the guide ended before the CM part - What I recommend is installing the KK2 firmware + ninphetamine + voltage settings, nothing else. I only left open the possibility of any customizations the reader wants to do, i´m not saying CM7 or jkay installation is a "must do".

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Since you´ve commented only about items 4 and 5, should i assume that you have nothing to say about items 1-3? I´m looking forward to read your opinion about that too.
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b_sal said:
1) Okay, i think that expression can be changed.
2) I haven´t found any evidence of KK5 and latter improving battery life, that´s why i recommend KK2.
3) Like i said before, I was worried about the rom counter issue, and didn´t know i was going to flash an official firmware. I guess that if you want to install a custom firmware without incrementing the counter you must do what i did. If that´s not true, please let me know and i will change that.
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I can't really respond to 1). 2) I still disagree with, there's no reason to stick to an old version, especially one which is not supported by the latest version of the JKay mod (which you later recommend). Therefore, in my opinion it makes more sense to recommend XWKL1. 3). The process to get what you wanted was zergrush followed by flashing Ninphetamine (with mobile Odin/other app to avoid counter increase). None of the other kernel flashing was necessary.
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About item 5, i must disagree a little. Well, i say "as close as possible to stock" and not "stock". If i don´t change anything, so it´s stock, right? What you would define as "close to stock" then?
And i the guide ended before that. I only left open the possibility of any customizations the reader wants to do, i´m not saying CM7 or jkay installation is a "must do".
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Flashing any custom kernel, especially one which describes itself as "Now with 100% less Samsungyness" in the thread title is deviating a lot from stock. I would define "close to stock" in that regard as CF-Root.

b_sal said:
You may call me an heretic or whatever, but i really don´t see the point of, say, Siyah kernel launching a new version every couple days. I´m using Ninphetamine and it does everything my phone can do. A mobile phone is not (yet) the same thing as a desktop computer, so it doesnt need kernels updated that fast. I ask in all my noobiness : What the newer kernels can do that this kernel can´t?
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I tend to agree with you which is why i don't bother with Siyah anymore i just stick to Speedmod which is pretty much proven as having the best battery life out of all the current kernels available.
What the newer kernels can do that this kernel can´t?
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Well Siyah at this stage of development probably has many more features, Speedmod offers the best battery life which is good for me

New to s4 flashing few quick questions

Hi, sorry to sound like a noob, but I have read so much and am trying to keep up with what works now but didn't work when some of the old posts I read were posted, and just some general questions to clear things up. My s4 comes tomorrow and I want to be clear I have this down, seems like a much bigger pain than my S3 at least upfront.
So lets assume it comes with mf3 out of the box. I assume it will, is this still the issue? Safestrap is what I do, there still isn't an unlocked bootloader?
So assuming it is mf3 this is what I gather I need to do. I will root by doing the thing with terminal and a micro sd. This still works? It's still as easy as the guide I found says it is? Just have the files on root of micro sd and run the command in terminal?
Ok, so after I root I install the safestrap apk (turn on all sources of course first) and then install it or hit install recovery or whatever it says. Then boot and when I see the splash screen hit the recovery option.
At this point is the most confusion. There is a lot of talk in older posts about creating ram slots and not over writing stock rom. However some more recent posts I read mention over writing stock rom with a custom rom. So what do I do here. Assuming I create a few rom slots can I essential dual boot between roms? Can I have a google play edition and a TW edition just a reboot away?
After I do whatever with a rom then flash the kernal from the safestrap post.
Then reboot into said rom.
Then that's it? Going forward I can overwrite a rom slot with whatever custom rom I want?
Is there any limitations to roms or anything?
Lastely, is there any progress in unlocking the bootloader to just put a custom recovery on and have it be like other devices, or with safestrap has everyone just given up on that?
Thanks.

You need to read this from the beginning of the page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
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[email protected] said:
You need to read this from the beginning of the page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
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That doesn't really answer anything and in fact just seems to add to my issues.
"Also, at this time, only TW based ROMs will work with SS. CM, AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, etc will not work. "
is stated. However there are million other posts about people saying they are on CM or other AOSP roms.
It seems so much has changed over the past few months and sifting through all these posts and figuring what still applies now and what's old information seems impossible.
Plus I saw no post with actual discussion about overwriting stock rom. Just following along the safestrap thread all of a sudden people were saying don't do it, then all of a sudden people are doing it.

failedjedi said:
That doesn't really answer anything and in fact just seems to add to my issues.
"Also, at this time, only TW based ROMs will work with SS. CM, AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, etc will not work. "
is stated. However there are million other posts about people saying they are on CM or other AOSP roms.
It seems so much has changed over the past few months and sifting through all these posts and figuring what still applies now and what's old information seems impossible.
Plus I saw no post with actual discussion about overwriting stock rom. Just following along the safestrap thread all of a sudden people were saying don't do it, then all of a sudden people are doing it.
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Okay let me clear this up for you. A guy that worked at best buy got the mf3 tar files from the Samsung smart that they use at best buy to fix peoples phones. So with the newer posts saying do it, is because you have the tar files to Odin back to stock in case anything happens. So older posts we weren't able to do that because we didn't have the tar files.
Now there are 4.2.2 Google edition roms that are based on tw but has the aosp feel to it you can have as one slot, than you can have a tw in another slot and flash back and fourth, which you can have up to 3 or 4 Roms slots as long as you have the storage for it you can make it. It use to be that you could only make 1,2, or 3 gig ROM slots for safestrap but I think you can partition more gigs now.
The people that are saying that they're on cm, aosp Roms are people who have the MDL firmware which there was an exploit for the boot loader, once mf3 hit Samsung and att locked that exploit up and its been so locked down people are getting rid of their s4's.
If your phone comes with mf3 first thing to do is not to set up WiFi yet and don't take an update. Root the device via the SD card method or kingo root method, than get safestrap installed and flash whatever ROM two based ROM for 4.2.2 you want. Hope that clears up some things
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[email protected] said:
Okay let me clear this up for you. A guy that worked at best buy got the mf3 tar files from the Samsung smart that they use at best buy to fix peoples phones. So with the newer posts saying do it, is because you have the tar files to Odin back to stock in case anything happens. So older posts we weren't able to do that because we didn't have the tar files.
Now there are 4.2.2 Google edition roms that are based on tw but has the aosp feel to it you can have as one slot, than you can have a tw in another slot and flash back and fourth, which you can have up to 3 or 4 Roms slots as long as you have the storage for it you can make it. It use to be that you could only make 1,2, or 3 gig ROM slots for safestrap but I think you can partition more gigs now.
The people that are saying that they're on cm, aosp Roms are people who have the MDL firmware which there was an exploit for the boot loader, once mf3 hit Samsung and att locked that exploit up and its been so locked down people are getting rid of their s4's.
If your phone comes with mf3 first thing to do is not to set up WiFi yet and don't take an update. Root the device via the SD card method or kingo root method, than get safestrap installed and flash whatever ROM two based ROM for 4.2.2 you want. Hope that clears up some things
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Ok, thanks for clearing that app. So when browsing ROMS I just have to make sure I get a TW based one, or even within touchwiz is there specific ROMS for mf3?

failedjedi said:
Ok, thanks for clearing that app. So when browsing ROMS I just have to make sure I get a TW based one, or even within touchwiz is there specific ROMS for mf3?
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If you would have bothered to read the thread that was linked for you (that you claimed didn't help you) you would have seen a list of ROMs in the OP.

scott14719 said:
If you would have bothered to read the thread that was linked for you (that you claimed didn't help you) you would have seen a list of ROMs in the OP.
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I see the list, does it say "these are the only working roms" - no.
It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?
And lastly, the reason I made the original post in the first place, how current is that info. There is conflicting info all over the place, and so many posts like the one linked don't date updates and changes consistently.
If that was the definitive list 3 months ago, but more are widely accepted as working since then, I have no way of no way of knowing that.
There is no single post that has properly dated updated information all in one place. I appreciate there are people that have been doing this and keeping up with this stuff for a while now, but as a new s4 owner, this mf3 stuff is not only different, but all the proper info is spread out all over the place and not dated.

failedjedi said:
I see the list, does it say "these are the only working roms" - no.
It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?
And lastly, the reason I made the original post in the first place, how current is that info. There is conflicting info all over the place, and so many posts like the one linked don't date updates and changes consistently.
If that was the definitive list 3 months ago, but more are widely accepted as working since then, I have no way of no way of knowing that.
There is no single post that has properly dated updated information all in one place. I appreciate there are people that have been doing this and keeping up with this stuff for a while now, but as a new s4 owner, this mf3 stuff is not only different, but all the proper info is spread out all over the place and not dated.
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That is why you need to take time to learn and read. It sounds as if you are wanting someone else to do all of the research for you. If the information is spread out to you, than it is to others also. Search, read, and learn...that is the only way to get the information you need. I'm really not sure what else you are looking for? If you are looking for someone to tell you exactly what ROMs (out of every ROM available) will work 100% in your situation you are, that person doesn't exist. So like I asked, what is it you are looking for? Maybe if you clarify your request you can get more help, but remember, not that you will do this, but don't ask for anything that you should be able to do yourself.

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That is why you need to take time to learn and read. It sounds as if you are wanting someone else to do all of the research for you. If the information is spread out to you, than it is to others also. Search, read, and learn...that is the only way to get the information you need. I'm really not sure what else you are looking for? If you are looking for someone to tell you exactly what ROMs (out of every ROM available) will work 100% in your situation you are, that person doesn't exist. So like I asked, what is it you are looking for? Maybe if you clarify your request you can get more help, but remember, not that you will do this, but don't ask for anything that you should be able to do yourself.
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"It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?"
That's what I'm looking for.
Can I in theory flash any TW ROM without risk of bricking, or am I actually limited to those confirmed. And follow up, how up to date is the confirmed list?
I can see all the information, I can do all the research, the problem is none of the information is dated, I read something about not overwriting stock rom slot, then I read something about doing it, and when nothing is dated for edits just the date of the original post shown, I don't know which piece of information is relevant and which piece to ignore.
If that list was dated and it was dated recently, I wouldn't have asked, I would have trusted it as an up to date list. But what if that list is 2 months old and there other roms now that are more relevant.

failedjedi said:
"It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?"
That's what I'm looking for.
Can I in theory flash any TW ROM without risk of bricking, or am I actually limited to those confirmed. And follow up, how up to date is the confirmed list?
I can see all the information, I can do all the research, the problem is none of the information is dated, I read something about not overwriting stock rom slot, then I read something about doing it, and when nothing is dated for edits just the date of the original post shown, I don't know which piece of information is relevant and which piece to ignore.
If that list was dated and it was dated recently, I wouldn't have asked, I would have trusted it as an up to date list. But what if that list is 2 months old and there other roms now that are more relevant.
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This is probably the best answer you are going to get (though others might be able to help you). The thread states to only use 4.22 TW ROMs. That means, that in theory, any 4.22 TW based ROM should work. However, if the ROM isn't specifically listed in that thread, it is your own risk to try it. There is always risk. No one can guarantee anything even if it somehow worked for them them. So if you try a ROM that is not in the list, you are taking a risk. There is no other way to put it. If you want to know about a specific ROM not on the list, and it meets the requirements, you will need to search the ROMs development thread to see if it is mentioned as working with SafeStrap and if it hasn't been mentioned, then ask in that specific thread. The information in the SafeStrap thread's OP is generally current but it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on. It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it. It you choose to do something different than what the OP states, it is your risk. Good luck.

scott14719 said:
This is probably the best answer you are going to get (though others might be able to help you). The thread states to only use 4.22 TW ROMs. That means, that in theory, any 4.22 TW based ROM should work. However, if the ROM isn't specifically listed in that thread, it is your own risk to try it. There is always risk. No one can guarantee anything even if it somehow worked for them them. So if you try a ROM that is not in the list, you are taking a risk. There is no other way to put it. If you want to know about a specific ROM not on the list, and it meets the requirements, you will need to search the ROMs development thread to see if it is mentioned as working with SafeStrap and if it hasn't been mentioned, then ask in that specific thread. The information in the SafeStrap thread's OP is generally current but it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on. It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it. It you choose to do something different than what the OP states, it is your risk. Good luck.
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"it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on"
"It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it."
This is my issue with the snarky comments here. You have been helpful, but all over there are snarky comments all with similar statements.
Make sure you read it, but don't trust what you read, make sure you spend 4 hours reading a 100+ page forum before you ask a simple question, I have seen simple yes/no questions answered with paragraph responses bashing OP for not reading.
Now in my case the 3 main posts that people should read to do this, if they were dated I would have been fine.
Again, not anyone here specifically for the most part, but XDA in general is full of this superiority attitude.

failedjedi said:
"it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on"
"It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it."
This is my issue with the snarky comments here. You have been helpful, but all over there are snarky comments all with similar statements.
Make sure you read it, but don't trust what you read, make sure you spend 4 hours reading a 100+ page forum before you ask a simple question, I have seen simple yes/no questions answered with paragraph responses bashing OP for not reading.
Now in my case the 3 main posts that people should read to do this, if they were dated I would have been fine.
Again, not anyone here specifically for the most part, but XDA in general is full of this superiority attitude.
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It's not a "superiority" attitude as you put it, it is the RULES. You are expected to read as much as you need to to learn. If that means 1 day or 100 days, it's up to you. This is a development forum and not a "tutorial site. People are very helpful if you at least try to help yourself first. I told you, there is no "easy" answer for what you ask. You HAVE to try the ROMs for yourself if you want to risk it. Expecting someone else to do it so they can run back and give you the answer after they took the risk is a "superiority" attitude. I also told you,DO WHAT THE OP STATES! Anything else is your risk. Why is that hard to understand? Anything you try that is not stated in the OP is untried, unproven, and risky. It's that simple.

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It's not a "superiority" attitude as you put it, it is the RULES. You are expected to read as much as you need to to learn. If that means 1 day or 100 days, it's up to you. This is a development forum and not a "tutorial site. People are very helpful if you at least try to help yourself first. I told you, there is no "easy" answer for what you ask. You HAVE to try the ROMs for yourself if you want to risk it. Expecting someone else to do it so they can run back and give you the answer after they took the risk is a "superiority" attitude. I also told you,DO WHAT THE OP STATES! Anything else is your risk. Why is that hard to understand? Anything you try that is not stated in the OP is untried, unproven, and risky. It's that simple.
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I asked for clarification on conflicting information.
It's not hard to understand do what OP says. It's the fact that in 2 sentences you said both to read EVERYTHING for information, then insist on only getting viable information from OP, which is it?
I tried to only follow OP but saw conflicting info so asked for clarification, then get told to read everything. Then get told don't trust what I read only follow what OP says. When there are 3 different "must read" posts, by 3 different authors and they are conflicting what the f*** is anyone supposed to do.
You are the one that makes seem like I'm asking to be guided through baby steps. I didn't. I asked if all TW roms should in theory work, a simple yes, or as you finally did say in theory they should, would have sufficed. Just a simple clarification, instead you are the one putting more work into the issue. That could have ended it right there, instead you keep posting more contradictory statements.
I read, I figured out all the steps I needed to take, some stuff was worded odd, or had conflicting info and I just wanted clarification on what was still relevant. God forbid someone have to say yes or no to a few questions to save others the time of reading hundreds of pages stuff that is out of date.

Hey Mod this is going know where.
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I've had it...

Help...please.
Rooting this phone is a convoluted bunch of bull****.
I am on OC4. I need to downgrade. Yet every tutorial I go to is full of broken links for the files I need and over a year old.
So far I have these as steps.
1. Downgrade via Odin somehow, not sure what file to use for that, as most links are broken af due to their age. I have Odin 3.10.
2. Towelroot.
3. Recovery
4. Custom rom, going Cyanogen.
5. I have seen threads mentioning having to downgrade my Kernel? Where does that fit in?
Before you ask I have searched google and this forum first, as per protocol. I probably didn't look hard enough.
I am not asking for a step by step, just updated links or tutorials, and maybe some info on what I have right and wrong.
I am NOT NEW to rooting android phones. Rooted the last 5 I've owned starting with the G1.
Thanks in advance. Sorry for the noobness. This S5 isn't like my 4G LTE or Droid Incrdible, but it is still pissing me off.

Honestly77 said:
Help...please.
Rooting this phone is a convoluted bunch of bull****.
I am on OC4. I need to downgrade. Yet every tutorial I go to is full of broken links for the files I need and over a year old.
So far I have these as steps.
1. Downgrade via Odin somehow, not sure what file to use for that, as most links are broken af due to their age. I have Odin 3.10.
2. Towelroot.
3. Recovery
4. Custom rom, going Cyanogen.
5. I have seen threads mentioning having to downgrade my Kernel? Where does that fit in?
Before you ask I have searched google and this forum first, as per protocol. I probably didn't look hard enough.
I am not asking for a step by step, just updated links or tutorials, and maybe some info on what I have right and wrong.
I am NOT NEW to rooting android phones. Rooted the last 5 I've owned starting with the G1.
Thanks in advance. Sorry for the noobness. This S5 isn't like my 4G LTE or Droid Incrdible, but it is still pissing me off.
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There are no Cyanogen ROMs for our phones, since that requires a different kernel than our locked bootloader can accept. Which ROM do you want to use? I'll see if I can put together a quick guide for you. I personally use Freedom ROM, which currently uses an OC4 base.

Right here buddy 3rd post. Most of this stuff is pretty easy you just have to read threw the threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help/samsung-user-lollipop-to-root-t3092863

Thanks and that thread never appeared in my searches. That and I don't have time to go through thousands of results. It'd take me longer than this did. Also. Cyanogen for galaxy s5
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ent/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-android-5-1-t3066252
freedom rom and alliance rom look good. So one of those if cyanogen doesn't work.

Honestly77 said:
Thanks and that thread never appeared in my searches. That and I don't have time to go through thousands of results. It'd take me longer than this did. Also. Cyanogen for galaxy s5
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ent/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-android-5-1-t3066252
freedom rom and alliance rom look good. So one of those if cyanogen doesn't work.
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Honestly77 said:
Thanks and that thread never appeared in my searches. That and I don't have time to go through thousands of results. It'd take me longer than this did. Also. Cyanogen for galaxy s5
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ent/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-android-5-1-t3066252
freedom rom and alliance rom look good. So one of those if cyanogen doesn't work.
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Unless you bought a Developer edition with an unlocked bootloader, it's best to stay away from the Unified Development section. You'll just end up with your heartbroken, since they all require kernels that we can't get on our phone. Your best bet is to stick within the Verizon-specific development thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development
And make sure you end up with the right firmware (bootloader, kernel, modem) that matches the ROM you choose! Otherwise, you won't boot up. It took me a few failed boots and attempts before I learned that the hard way.

Disappointing community...

I must say I'm deeply disappointed by the lack of responsiveness on the LG forums. So far, none of my queries (none too difficult, mostly regarding specific steps or problems during flashing) have been answered. Coming from a Samsung I must say those XDA forums were beehives compared to the utter deadliness that reigns here. I understand that there can't be many roms as long as only the international version can be unlocked, but it is frustrating to have to get into a whole new ballgame as far as flashing etc. is concerned (compared to Samsung practices) without some assistance from the community.
Sorry about this, I just needed to unload my chagrin...

I don't have experience flashing this device. One reason is that Verizon detects if you're rooted and I don't want to void my warranty so soon after getting the device.
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Also, no ROMs anyway... :' -(
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I've had a couple of questions and whilst they have taken a little longer than normal to be answered, I'm not overly fussed because I'm getting help for free so if it's not immediate, it doesn't really matter. LG rooting/flashing is completely new to me too so I'd rather wait than rush in without fully understanding what I was doing.
What issues do you have?

El Presidente81 said:
I've had a couple of questions and whilst they have taken a little longer than normal to be answered, I'm not overly fussed because I'm getting help for free so if it's not immediate, it doesn't really matter. LG rooting/flashing is completely new to me too so I'd rather wait than rush in without fully understanding what I was doing.
What issues do you have?
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I know it's free and I shouldn't complain. But the difference with the Samsung community is striking. And it's precisely because all is new that one hopes for some assistance. Look at the last post of this thread. Maybe I'm spoilt having to wait for 2 days, but somehow I suspect I'll never get an answer. And maybe it's also because there are not enough knowledgable members on the LG forums, which means that one is always dependent on the OP.

bartveld said:
I know it's free and I shouldn't complain. But the difference with the Samsung community is striking. And it's precisely because all is new that one hopes for some assistance. Look at the last post of this thread. Maybe I'm spoilt having to wait for 2 days, but somehow I suspect I'll never get an answer. And maybe it's also because there are not enough knowledgable members on the LG forums, which means that one is always dependent on the OP.
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You must understand that it's not we people don't want to reply to you, and for your question in regards to the post, I'm pretty sure a search would bring up many queries that you have been asking before. The phone has only been out for a few months, and people are slowly working on the progress for this phone. It's not that people have no knowledge, it's just that the community (let's be frank) is not as large as Samsung's community. We can try to provide as much help as possible, but sometimes help us out by doing a search before questioning stuffs.
We all that come towards this forum wanted to see something more, something exciting and play around with custom roms and stuff, but there's their pros and cons.
For example, there's already a team building towards CM/Blisspop, and they are progressing steadily, bringing us updates and fixes that will eventually be available for everyone.
So sometimes, just have the patience to wait, or if you really need to query in regards to stuff, you could do a PM.

Do not follow that guide until you are already running version F. You will lose exfat on your SD card
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Coming from a Nexus 4 the tumbleweed here is a bit odd but if a phone is pretty well locked down that does cramp this forums style a bit.
On the other hand the only niggle I have with the G4 is the horrible over saturated tones that make reds look purple. If I could tone that back say 20% it would be nearly perfect for me.

tdevaughn said:
Do not follow that guide until you are already running version F. You will lose exfat on your SD card
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tdevaughn, you are referring to my question in the other thread? But how am I ever getting to version F as I am already rooted and running a flashed stock rom (version d, with necessarily Updates turned off)?
Indicious Flow said:
You must understand that it's not we people don't want to reply to you, and for your question in regards to the post, I'm pretty sure a search would bring up many queries that you have been asking before. The phone has only been out for a few months, and people are slowly working on the progress for this phone. It's not that people have no knowledge, it's just that the community (let's be frank) is not as large as Samsung's community. We can try to provide as much help as possible, but sometimes help us out by doing a search before questioning stuffs.
We all that come towards this forum wanted to see something more, something exciting and play around with custom roms and stuff, but there's their pros and cons.
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It's just that sometimes a question is so specific that a search won't do. As is my question in the thread which you OP'ed (or was that already answered in that thread and I overlooked it?). And PM'ing... now that I would consider harrassment.
Anyway, I hear you and I certainly appreciate the efforts of people like yourself. “Trees that are slow to grow bear the best fruit.”

The only question nobody can answer in the G4 is why are we obliged to flash a kdz file to update the fw when you have an unlocked bootloader (official root). Losing internal data + root everytime we want to update the fw!!
Why isn't a way to extract the fw files from the kdz so we can flash them without data and twrp loss like they do it on htc s_off phones?
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bartveld said:
how am I ever getting to version F as I am already rooted and running a flashed stock rom (version d, with necessarily Updates turned off)?
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just taking a stab at it
1. flash back to a non-rooted system image (a search will probably turn something up) for your current version
2. ENABLE UPDATES! and retrieve the OTAs to, um, UPDATE? (gee.. if you disabled updates, I WONDER why updates won't work)
3a. find a rooted system image for your new version and dd flash that
or
3b. follow guide to dd pull your non-rooted system partition, inject SuperSu, and dd flash your self-made rooted system image

bartveld said:
It's just that sometimes a question is so specific that a search won't do. As is my question in the thread which you OP'ed (or was that already answered in that thread and I overlooked it?). And PM'ing... now that I would consider harrassment.
Anyway, I hear you and I certainly appreciate the efforts of people like yourself. “Trees that are slow to grow bear the best fruit.”
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Well for me, I've never thought of PM as a spam. At least you can easily get your questions asked and answered without questioning the other members who may or may not be new to the forum and just slowly learning So if you really have anything to ask, feel free to ask. And to answer your question in regards to the other thread, the command for that is universal for H815 variants, and works on all the rooted images out there.

you know what I was thinking the exact same thing
When i first got my G4 i tried to root and cocked it up totally so posted on here and got about 3 replies, this was my first Android phone previously having the crappy fruit phone for 10 years
I am an experienced computer user and have mucked about with all kinds of stuff for years
One thing that has stuck in my mind i read a comment on a thread here that said something like 'thats why noobs shouldnt root phones' - what kind of person thinks this way? I will go out of my way to help people in this type of situation
Anyways I am now pretty mustard on the G4 and know my phone/rooting inside out after spending the last 6 or so weeks finding out the wrongs and rights of rooting with several mishaps and always finding my answers due to the few helpful peeps around here
There are some brilliant posters on here and there are also some right ****ing morons

disappointing user...
all answers already out there.. but wants hand held instead of searching/reading.
(see, goes both ways)

autoprime said:
disappointing user...
all answers already out there.. but wants hand held instead of searching/reading.
(see, goes both ways)
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If you ever have a problem with your electrics let me know i will be more than happy to help you if i can ... without patronising you
BTW you have helped me out more than you know

Well usually if someone has an answer they'll share ot or tell you where to look. If they haven't then maybe they don't know either.. I rarely have to ask questions because I read and search and help out where/when I'm able. Half the time IF I do.ask a question I end up finding the answer shortly after on my own because of my diligence and risk taking. There aren't necessarily a lot of roms out there( which I don't care anyway), but the rest is still okay. I mean there's root and xposed and that's even for locked down variants too. Maybe it's just me cause I didn't always have it so good. I had phones that we had ridiculously hard methods of obtaining root and unlock if ever. We found a way though and now things are a hell of a lot easier. Idk I just don't see the point in a thread like this..

As a matter of fact this is the first phone I haven't rooted or Jailbreaked day one, mostly because I bought it as a cure for a flash o holic A new Nexus line is on its way, hopefully with a ok camera, it's going to be my flashy phone and this one will be the stockish backup
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I'm not sure it's fair to compare a forum for this device to the various Samsung ones when Samsung is the second largest phone manufacturer in the world and by far the most popular Android OEM.

vegetaleb said:
The only question nobody can answer in the G4 is why are we obliged to flash a kdz file to update the fw when you have an unlocked bootloader (official root). Losing internal data + root everytime we want to update the fw!!
Why isn't a way to extract the fw files from the kdz so we can flash them without data and twrp loss like they do it on htc s_off phones?
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You can flash as many KDZ's as you want without losing data. I have done it a few times now myself. I don't know where you got the idea that you lose your data every time..
Yes you lose root though. It's pretty simple to flash a rooted image after you get root back, though.
There are two options when flashing a KDZ with LG Flash Tool. Wipe or don't wipe. Pretty simple.
Or is it different with an unlocked bootloader?

GibMcFragger said:
You can flash as many KDZ's as you want without losing data. I have done it a few times now myself. I don't know where you got the idea that you lose your data every time..
Yes you lose root though. It's pretty simple to flash a rooted image after you get root back, though.
There are two options when flashing a KDZ with LG Flash Tool. Wipe or don't wipe. Pretty simple.
Or is it different with an unlocked bootloader?
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I have no idea! The dude who made the tutorial on how to get back to stock using kdz told me I will loose TWRP, though no idea if I will loose bootloader unlock too, if that's the case the process of unlocking the bootloader will wipe all data

vegetaleb said:
I have no idea! The dude who made the tutorial on how to get back to stock using kdz told me I will loose TWRP, though no idea if I will loose bootloader unlock too, if that's the case the process of unlocking the bootloader will wipe all data
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Ah ok. Yes, you will also lose TWRP. I guess it is more of a pain with an unlocked bootloader. Mine is locked, so I don't get TWRP. I just flash whatever KDZ, pull system image, inject root, flash the rooted image.

Pokemon Go with Fake GPS on the S5 Verizon

Hi,
I bought a used a Verizon S5 hoping to play PoGo using Fake GPS. But I am unable to select a Fake GPS app in Settings. I am currently on 5.0 (version ending in BPB1) and checking for software updates on the phone fails. Presumably because I do not have a SIM in the phone as I would like to continue to use my iPhone. The S5 would be only on Wifi (or iPhone's hotspot) and used only to play PoGo.
I have read through (most of) the painiac's (excellent) guide and I am trying to decide what to do next:
1. Try to install marshmallow update (no root) and see if the option to select the fake GPS appears in settings
2. Root the phone and try several custom ROM's to see if the option appears
3. Sell the phone back and try another phone
I have flashed custom ROM's with older Android phones some 3 years ago. Modding scene has considerably changed since then and I find myself reading warnings and seeing dead ends (permanently locked bootloaders etc) everywhere. Any advice would be appreciated.

Let me rephrase the question. I can update to marshmallow 6.0 with images available on the internet. I will lose the ability to root the phone. But I may be able to run fake gps and play pokemon go.
Or I can try rooting it and then installing xposed or other frameworks to get the set up on lollipop 5.0 - which is root-able.
Which would be the recommended way for someone like me with mediocre android hacking skills and very little time?
Thanks.

Marshmallow will give you the option to make Fake GPS the default mock application.
However, Pokemon Go will not run on rooted devices unless you know of a workaround for that.

yelloguy said:
Hi,
I bought a used a Verizon S5 hoping to play PoGo using Fake GPS. But I am unable to select a Fake GPS app in Settings. I am currently on 5.0 (version ending in BPB1) and checking for software updates on the phone fails. Presumably because I do not have a SIM in the phone as I would like to continue to use my iPhone. The S5 would be only on Wifi (or iPhone's hotspot) and used only to play PoGo.
I have read through (most of) the painiac's (excellent) guide and I am trying to decide what to do next:
1. Try to install marshmallow update (no root) and see if the option to select the fake GPS appears in settings
2. Root the phone and try several custom ROM's to see if the option appears
3. Sell the phone back and try another phone
I have flashed custom ROM's with older Android phones some 3 years ago. Modding scene has considerably changed since then and I find myself reading warnings and seeing dead ends (permanently locked bootloaders etc) everywhere. Any advice would be appreciated.
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you've come to the right person asking this stuff lol I used to cover all that stuff daily on my yt channel. gained 2400 subs in 3 weeks due to posting my vids on other sites that allowed pogo hacks to be posted. was doing 3-4 vids a day.
AOSP based roms will not work on Pokemon Go. That leaves out anything like Cyanogenmod or anything compiled from it.
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.

loadedpampers said:
Marshmallow will give you the option to make Fake GPS the default mock application.
However, Pokemon Go will not run on rooted devices unless you know of a workaround for that.
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Thanks so much. I am currently not rooted and when I go to MM I cannot be rooted from what I understand. So I think I will do the upgrade when I have some time. I will lose the ability to root but I can live with that.

KaptinBoxxi said:
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
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I agree on the effort comment, but I am not sure why you are rooting the device if it does not work on rooted devices? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to stay un-rooted and keep it simple and stupid?

Also, can anyone point me to a legit MM stock ROM? I have downloaded ODIN but I am nervous about the sketchy websites needing registration for downloading the ROM image. I need stock un-rooted Verizon ROM so I was thinking it should be easy to find. However I am not having much luck on the Googles.

Using Magisk 10.2 and the root bundled with it works. You just have to use Magisk hide which is now bundled with magisk.
I'm on vzw s5 running phoenix rom with root. Can still play pogo. No luck on xposed though.

Just a quick update. I got all the things in place for updating the phone to Marshmallow 6.0 and connected the phone to the computer for the first time. The phone gave me messages about installing software update agent and I followed the instructions. It offered to install the marshmallow update from verizon and I took that offer.
After the update, the option to select a GPS app showed up on the phone. I selected my installed app and almost everything works on pokemon go now.
I say almost because PoGo still jumps back to home location for a short second from time to time. But from what I can tell, the fix needs root. So I'll just leave good enough alone for now.
Thanks for all the help.

yelloguy said:
I agree on the effort comment, but I am not sure why you are rooting the device if it does not work on rooted devices? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to stay un-rooted and keep it simple and stupid?
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i do so much with my devices that they need to be rooted. i do a lot of app debugging for my friend who makes games to help him out. i do have a spare phone that's not rooted for pogo now though. although htc m7's are awful haha

TechX1991 said:
you've come to the right person asking this stuff lol I used to cover all that stuff daily on my yt channel. gained 2400 subs in 3 weeks due to posting my vids on other sites that allowed pogo hacks to be posted. was doing 3-4 vids a day.
AOSP based roms will not work on Pokemon Go. That leaves out anything like Cyanogenmod or anything compiled from it.
The only way i got POGO to work on my spare s5 (i use it for testing) was to flash back stock NI2, re-root with towel root, flash a TouchWiz based rom with SafeStrap, then delete the Root binary and anything SU related, basically unrooting my rom and backing it up manually and only putting em back when it was needed
There's probably better ways now, but for me this worked 100%
POGO isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
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Anyone know how to get fake gps working on iphone full process please and stable working. I need to know full method which includes what jailbreak is best, what iphone versions are best and easy to do. Also how to disable or turn off mock location detection. Like in andriod you can do it via smali. Please I tried looking for usefull info on the net everywhere but can't seem to find solid info. Cheers

kani1544 said:
Anyone know how to get fake gps working on iphone full process please and stable working. I need to know full method which includes what jailbreak is best, what iphone versions are best and easy to do. Also how to disable or turn off mock location detection. Like in andriod you can do it via smali. Please I tried looking for usefull info on the net everywhere but can't seem to find solid info. Cheers
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This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it

TechX1991 said:
This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it
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bro chill man. i tried to google it but cant get the answer man. why are u getting so angry man. what did i do. Sorry i just posted my question at ur post to get my answers to my questions. But just curious why wont you share some info, is there some reason or something?

TechX1991 said:
This post is 6 YEARS old. What made you even think it was worth it to quote my 6 year old post to get information now?
Google would have answered your question faster than you typing out that whole post. I know the answer to your question, I'm not going to give it
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should we chat private pm or something thats why?