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DroidX User: Just bought my first tablet! TF300T

Hello folks I just bought the 32gb TF300T at Best Buy tonight. Got the price match via the "Office Max" ad for $349.99 plus tax...
Anyhow some questions.
I have rooted, rom'd, themed, ect... the heck out of my DroidX and am generally very comfortable mucking around in that territory but I'm reading various threads here and about concerning the permanent bricking of the TF300 if a person does something wrong. I'm used to being able to SBF & restore the DroidX if something goes amiss and bring the 'brick' alive again. That being said, I'm a bit squeemish at the moment to do any modifications with the TF300 but of course will be itching to nontheless... Mainly would like to definitely Root-Unlock(?)-Flash Roms. Any suggestions or particular threads to point me to concerning this? I've done a little looking around but there seems to be multiple methods discussed for even rooting and I'm a little uncertain on where to begin realizing this is likely a bit different than the DroidX.
Any recommendations as to "Must Have" apps and/or do most apps that work on the DroidX for example, still work on this tablet?
My uses will be for both work and play. A lot of web surfing, email, and media.
Any and all tips are appreciated! Thanks

Once you unlock the bootloader you should be good to go. Just make sure you follow directions and read up before you do anything new. Also just so you know once you unlock you cannot go back to locked and you will not get updates from asus. Currently I'm just going with it locked and rooted and I'm happy. Ics is so good already plus there aren't too many rooms out yet. Give it time though and once they start to roll out and I get sick of stock ill start flashing. I'm also holding out so that if anything goes wrong my warranty is still valid and I can get it replaced.
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Howdy!
First off, nice buy, I do so enjoy my TF300T, and I'm sure you will as well.
As you prolly know from the cheaper price, Asus also used cheaper parts to build their tablets. Make sure the screen is free of defects, so you can return it for a new one if something goes wrong. It's a beautiful tablet as long as your luck is up and you don't brick it by mistake. My advice: wait a week or two. If you're happy, go ahead and visit this thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669827) for a cyanogenmod 9 port. The Nightlies are stable, I'm using it right now, but there are still issues with GPS and Sound, which will be fixed with time and patience.
You can root (if you haven't updated past .17 and don't want to install CM9 yet) easy by using sparkyroot at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526487 ))) But if you have, do some research, and you'll find what you"re looking for.
If you do, here's something to help you along: http://www.android.gs/update-asus-t...anogenmod-9-android-4-0-4-ice-cream-sandwich/
There's more, but you have to search for it! Google is your friend.
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If I've helped you, please don't forget to thank me!

TDinsmoor said:
As you prolly know from the cheaper price, Asus also used cheaper parts to build their tablets. Make sure the screen is free of defects, so you can return it for a new one if something goes wrong.
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I second this completely. I'm on my third tablet. The first one had a dead pixel, and the second had a hardware defect where the touchscreen went crazy if I applied any amount of pressure to the left edge of the tablet. The second one took me a few days to figure out what exactly was happening.

Thanks for the replies! I did actually take that update from Asus last night after powering it up.
My Kernel version is 2.6.39.4
Wonder if I can even root now at this moment?
Thinking of holding out for now regarding unlocking as I would sooner keep it within warranty at this time plus it doesn't seem like there are any real perks in unlocking currently if the Roms & Kernels out now are still young in development.
I would like to root though if I haven't screwed up by already taking the update so I can run TB, ect...
Thanks again guys. I'm sure there will be many questions to come!

Yer very welcome.
I do recommend the updated build.prop, it's low-profile, but helps with things such as battery life and other optimization. You need root, however.

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Yer very welcome.
I do recommend the updated build.prop, it's low-profile, but helps with things such as battery life and other optimization. You need root, however.
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Thanks! I did get my root very easily per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689193
The thing is I tried to get the CWR via:
3. If you have root and need CWM recovery.
Why? Nandroid backups and restores. Debrick. Flexibility. Numerous other reasons. ( but no OTA)
- Step 1. Run the tool "1-Click Transformer Root.bat"
- Step 2. You'll be presented with a menu. Choose option (3)
- You'll have CWM Recovery
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And was unable to as option #3 is simply "Quit" :silly:
I'm wondering if one needs to be "Unlocked" to obtain CWM recovery?
Anyhoo, yea, could you point me to this updated "build.prop" discussion and method for obtaining? Anything in particular to be cautious of when doing it?
Thanks!

lazer9 said:
Thanks! I did get my root very easily per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689193
The thing is I tried to get the CWR via:
And was unable to as option #3 is simply "Quit" :silly:
I'm wondering if one needs to be "Unlocked" to obtain CWM recovery?
Anyhoo, yea, could you point me to this updated "build.prop" discussion and method for obtaining? Anything in particular to be cautious of when doing it?
Thanks!
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You need to be unlocked for CWM. In relation to the modified build.prop AFAIK there isn't one made for the lastest firmware (.30), but here's the main thread for it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641219

jgaf said:
You need to be unlocked for CWM. In relation to the modified build.prop AFAIK there isn't one made for the lastest firmware (.30), but here's the main thread for it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641219
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Thanks for that info. I'll read up on the process now so I will have a good grip on it if/when one becomes available for the current firmware.

jgaf said:
....In relation to the modified build.prop AFAIK there isn't one made for the lastest firmware (.30), but here's the main thread for it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1641219
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Wait... From that thread: Post #261 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27666040&postcount=261
It seems there are actually two for the latest firmware or am I reading something wrong?
Edit: Disregard the above. I just realized those are for the WW version and not US. If I'm understanding correctly... Whew, so much to be careful about.

To Root or not to Root, that is the question

I've had my Nexus 7 a few days now and I am noticing ads all over the place. So, I am thinking about rooting my device so I can put one of the ad blockers on there.
1. Do you recommend it?
2. When Android brings new updates to their OS, does the root stay there or prevent you from upgrading in the normal way? Do you have to reroot each time they do an update?
3. Can I preserve all my data on the device as it currently is or will it get lost on my rooting escapade?
Thanks,
Jon

Jon12345 said:
I've had my Nexus 7 a few days now and I am noticing ads all over the place. So, I am thinking about rooting my device so I can put one of the ad blockers on there.
1. Do you recommend it?
2. When Android brings new updates to their OS, does the root stay there or prevent you from upgrading in the normal way? Do you have to reroot each time they do an update?
3. Can I preserve all my data on the device as it currently is or will it get lost on my rooting escapade?
Thanks,
Jon
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1. No, too fast system updates.
2. You habe to reroot it every update
3. No idea.
But no!
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Jon12345 said:
I've had my Nexus 7 a few days now and I am noticing ads all over the place. So, I am thinking about rooting my device so I can put one of the ad blockers on there.
1. Do you recommend it?
2. When Android brings new updates to their OS, does the root stay there or prevent you from upgrading in the normal way? Do you have to reroot each time they do an update?
3. Can I preserve all my data on the device as it currently is or will it get lost on my rooting escapade?
Thanks,
Jon
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You might want to read this OP POST and all user Questions and answers without this thread.. All of the above and more have been asked here. This Thread was STICKIED To avoid to many of this type of thread you just created.. With that said we all sometimes post without thinking.. Please go here where your Questions are already answered..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Good Luck
Erica Renee. Questions should be in the Questions and Answers Not General..

1 - I surely recommend. For me, root is the best thing you can do in Nexus 7, mainly because 3 apps i can´t live without now:
- PPP widget (3g modem working on Nexus 7) : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.draisberghof.pppwidget
- Stickmount (Any flash drive working on Nexus 7, i use it to keep all my emulators roms, and videos and it´s perfect!) : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount
- USB/BT Joystick Center 6 (it works with almost EVERY gamepad in the market, be it USB or wireless) and the best thing is that you can map buttons and analog sticks to use as touch controls, so it works with almost all games and emulators for android. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.poke64738.usbjoy
2 - There´s a way to keep your root before updating, search for ROOTKEEPER, easy as walk...
3 - You can preserve all your data. JUST DO IT NOW!

Without adding toooo much to the spam on the forums I'll answer some of your questions.
Should you root? imo yes, if like me you want to use otg and be able to dim the screen enough that night time use doesn't blind you.
Do updates mess it up? yes but with the likes of Wugs toolkit it's easy to root again.
Your user data is easy to back up and easy to reload if for any reason you lose it.

Jon12345 said:
I've had my Nexus 7 a few days now and I am noticing ads all over the place. So, I am thinking about rooting my device so I can put one of the ad blockers on there.
1. Do you recommend it?
2. When Android brings new updates to their OS, does the root stay there or prevent you from upgrading in the normal way? Do you have to reroot each time they do an update?
3. Can I preserve all my data on the device as it currently is or will it get lost on my rooting escapade?
Thanks,
Jon
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Normally I wouldn't respond to redundant threads, but I don't like to see misleading information like this post left around to confuse people:
bstosnbata said:
1. No, too fast system updates.
2. You habe to reroot it every update
3. No idea.
But no!
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1) Rooting is an individual decision, but there is no real reason not to - outside of personal preference. Sure you could do something stupid and break your device, but 99% of the time it's easily recoverable. If you want to use some nice and very hand apps like Titanium Backup, you need root. If you want to run custom software (kernels, etc.), you might not technically need root, but you will need to do almost all the steps necessary to get there (unlock bootloader, install custom recovery, etc.), so you might as well root it to. The fact that the OS updates come quickly on a Nexus device is irrelevant. While the stock OTA updates will remove root, it won't undo the other things, which makes restoring root (especially with a "root keeper" tool) take about 10 seconds.
2) Yes, OTA updates will remove root. But, as I mentioned above, the fix process is trivial, so that alone shouldn't make any difference in your decision. Having root by itself will NOT break OTA updates. However, modifying other files on the system (framework, system apks, etc.) will. But you can always just reflash the full newer version or make backups of the modified files.
3) The first step of the "rooting" process, or the process to do anything custom, will require you to unlock your bootloader. If you have not done this yet, it WILL force wipe you tablet. No way around that. But once you unlock your bootloader the first time, you're good to go and don't need to worry about it in the future. Additionally, once that's done, using tools like TiBu and custom recovery nandroid backups make restoring your data MUCH easier then stock options.
In my opinion, rooting is a definite benefit, especially on devices like the Nexus7. I would recommend it for anyone who likes to play with their devices and maximize their capabilities. But it's up to you. There really is no downside, and it can easily be undone if you want later.
But as the other poster said OP, you need to read the existing threads/stickies in the future before asking questions that were asked and answered already.

The OP question was about whether to root his device or not, then you shot him down by saying he should have done a search and provided a link to how to root his devices. Some thread spun off to other topic but from the thread heading you will not know if you do a search.
I know that search should be done first, but not unless I can't comprehend the English language, that thread will not be the goto thread to answer that question.
I myself try to search for things I have seen before and find it hard to get back to the same thread, we are all here to learn and discover from each other and you don't need to put people down on how you answer their question, not unless they're Apple fanboy (pun intended).
Flame suit on!
Nexus 4 & 7

kwabby said:
The OP question was about whether to root his device or not, then you shot him down by saying he should have done a search and provided a link to how to root his devices. Some thread spun off to other topic but from the thread heading you will not know if you do a search.
I know that search should be done first, but not unless I can't comprehend the English language, that thread will not be the goto thread to answer that question.
I myself try to search for things I have seen before and find it hard to get back to the same thread, we are all here to learn and discover from each other and you don't need to put people down on how you answer their question, not unless they're Apple fanboy (pun intended).
Flame suit on!
Nexus 4 & 7
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I agree, while it may be a bind for the regular contributors to answer the same questions over and over people like me learn a lot from others asking questions.
I could use the search function and learn for sure, however how would I search for a question that hasn't arose for me yet? Just reading posts is the best way to learn general knowledge, if people didn't ask questions then I'm unlikely to go searching random things in stale posts.
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As simple as if you want root apps like ad block, then root it.
There are no risk and you can always back to stock.
For me, a non rooted android is useless.
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kwabby said:
The OP question was about whether to root his device or not, then you shot him down by saying he should have done a search and provided a link to how to root his devices. Some thread spun off to other topic but from the thread heading you will not know if you do a search.
I know that search should be done first, but not unless I can't comprehend the English language, that thread will not be the goto thread to answer that question.
I myself try to search for things I have seen before and find it hard to get back to the same thread, we are all here to learn and discover from each other and you don't need to put people down on how you answer their question, not unless they're Apple fanboy (pun intended).
Flame suit on!
Nexus 4 & 7
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There are plenty of sociopaths on forums. I just ignore them.
Asking questions is what makes a community. Fresh discussion is where it is at, else we would all go to blog posts and read articles on a topic. "Hey, why don't you Google your answer?" Nutters.

New to s4 flashing few quick questions

Hi, sorry to sound like a noob, but I have read so much and am trying to keep up with what works now but didn't work when some of the old posts I read were posted, and just some general questions to clear things up. My s4 comes tomorrow and I want to be clear I have this down, seems like a much bigger pain than my S3 at least upfront.
So lets assume it comes with mf3 out of the box. I assume it will, is this still the issue? Safestrap is what I do, there still isn't an unlocked bootloader?
So assuming it is mf3 this is what I gather I need to do. I will root by doing the thing with terminal and a micro sd. This still works? It's still as easy as the guide I found says it is? Just have the files on root of micro sd and run the command in terminal?
Ok, so after I root I install the safestrap apk (turn on all sources of course first) and then install it or hit install recovery or whatever it says. Then boot and when I see the splash screen hit the recovery option.
At this point is the most confusion. There is a lot of talk in older posts about creating ram slots and not over writing stock rom. However some more recent posts I read mention over writing stock rom with a custom rom. So what do I do here. Assuming I create a few rom slots can I essential dual boot between roms? Can I have a google play edition and a TW edition just a reboot away?
After I do whatever with a rom then flash the kernal from the safestrap post.
Then reboot into said rom.
Then that's it? Going forward I can overwrite a rom slot with whatever custom rom I want?
Is there any limitations to roms or anything?
Lastely, is there any progress in unlocking the bootloader to just put a custom recovery on and have it be like other devices, or with safestrap has everyone just given up on that?
Thanks.

You need to read this from the beginning of the page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
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[email protected] said:
You need to read this from the beginning of the page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
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That doesn't really answer anything and in fact just seems to add to my issues.
"Also, at this time, only TW based ROMs will work with SS. CM, AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, etc will not work. "
is stated. However there are million other posts about people saying they are on CM or other AOSP roms.
It seems so much has changed over the past few months and sifting through all these posts and figuring what still applies now and what's old information seems impossible.
Plus I saw no post with actual discussion about overwriting stock rom. Just following along the safestrap thread all of a sudden people were saying don't do it, then all of a sudden people are doing it.

failedjedi said:
That doesn't really answer anything and in fact just seems to add to my issues.
"Also, at this time, only TW based ROMs will work with SS. CM, AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, etc will not work. "
is stated. However there are million other posts about people saying they are on CM or other AOSP roms.
It seems so much has changed over the past few months and sifting through all these posts and figuring what still applies now and what's old information seems impossible.
Plus I saw no post with actual discussion about overwriting stock rom. Just following along the safestrap thread all of a sudden people were saying don't do it, then all of a sudden people are doing it.
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Okay let me clear this up for you. A guy that worked at best buy got the mf3 tar files from the Samsung smart that they use at best buy to fix peoples phones. So with the newer posts saying do it, is because you have the tar files to Odin back to stock in case anything happens. So older posts we weren't able to do that because we didn't have the tar files.
Now there are 4.2.2 Google edition roms that are based on tw but has the aosp feel to it you can have as one slot, than you can have a tw in another slot and flash back and fourth, which you can have up to 3 or 4 Roms slots as long as you have the storage for it you can make it. It use to be that you could only make 1,2, or 3 gig ROM slots for safestrap but I think you can partition more gigs now.
The people that are saying that they're on cm, aosp Roms are people who have the MDL firmware which there was an exploit for the boot loader, once mf3 hit Samsung and att locked that exploit up and its been so locked down people are getting rid of their s4's.
If your phone comes with mf3 first thing to do is not to set up WiFi yet and don't take an update. Root the device via the SD card method or kingo root method, than get safestrap installed and flash whatever ROM two based ROM for 4.2.2 you want. Hope that clears up some things
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[email protected] said:
Okay let me clear this up for you. A guy that worked at best buy got the mf3 tar files from the Samsung smart that they use at best buy to fix peoples phones. So with the newer posts saying do it, is because you have the tar files to Odin back to stock in case anything happens. So older posts we weren't able to do that because we didn't have the tar files.
Now there are 4.2.2 Google edition roms that are based on tw but has the aosp feel to it you can have as one slot, than you can have a tw in another slot and flash back and fourth, which you can have up to 3 or 4 Roms slots as long as you have the storage for it you can make it. It use to be that you could only make 1,2, or 3 gig ROM slots for safestrap but I think you can partition more gigs now.
The people that are saying that they're on cm, aosp Roms are people who have the MDL firmware which there was an exploit for the boot loader, once mf3 hit Samsung and att locked that exploit up and its been so locked down people are getting rid of their s4's.
If your phone comes with mf3 first thing to do is not to set up WiFi yet and don't take an update. Root the device via the SD card method or kingo root method, than get safestrap installed and flash whatever ROM two based ROM for 4.2.2 you want. Hope that clears up some things
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Ok, thanks for clearing that app. So when browsing ROMS I just have to make sure I get a TW based one, or even within touchwiz is there specific ROMS for mf3?

failedjedi said:
Ok, thanks for clearing that app. So when browsing ROMS I just have to make sure I get a TW based one, or even within touchwiz is there specific ROMS for mf3?
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If you would have bothered to read the thread that was linked for you (that you claimed didn't help you) you would have seen a list of ROMs in the OP.

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If you would have bothered to read the thread that was linked for you (that you claimed didn't help you) you would have seen a list of ROMs in the OP.
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I see the list, does it say "these are the only working roms" - no.
It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?
And lastly, the reason I made the original post in the first place, how current is that info. There is conflicting info all over the place, and so many posts like the one linked don't date updates and changes consistently.
If that was the definitive list 3 months ago, but more are widely accepted as working since then, I have no way of no way of knowing that.
There is no single post that has properly dated updated information all in one place. I appreciate there are people that have been doing this and keeping up with this stuff for a while now, but as a new s4 owner, this mf3 stuff is not only different, but all the proper info is spread out all over the place and not dated.

failedjedi said:
I see the list, does it say "these are the only working roms" - no.
It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?
And lastly, the reason I made the original post in the first place, how current is that info. There is conflicting info all over the place, and so many posts like the one linked don't date updates and changes consistently.
If that was the definitive list 3 months ago, but more are widely accepted as working since then, I have no way of no way of knowing that.
There is no single post that has properly dated updated information all in one place. I appreciate there are people that have been doing this and keeping up with this stuff for a while now, but as a new s4 owner, this mf3 stuff is not only different, but all the proper info is spread out all over the place and not dated.
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That is why you need to take time to learn and read. It sounds as if you are wanting someone else to do all of the research for you. If the information is spread out to you, than it is to others also. Search, read, and learn...that is the only way to get the information you need. I'm really not sure what else you are looking for? If you are looking for someone to tell you exactly what ROMs (out of every ROM available) will work 100% in your situation you are, that person doesn't exist. So like I asked, what is it you are looking for? Maybe if you clarify your request you can get more help, but remember, not that you will do this, but don't ask for anything that you should be able to do yourself.

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That is why you need to take time to learn and read. It sounds as if you are wanting someone else to do all of the research for you. If the information is spread out to you, than it is to others also. Search, read, and learn...that is the only way to get the information you need. I'm really not sure what else you are looking for? If you are looking for someone to tell you exactly what ROMs (out of every ROM available) will work 100% in your situation you are, that person doesn't exist. So like I asked, what is it you are looking for? Maybe if you clarify your request you can get more help, but remember, not that you will do this, but don't ask for anything that you should be able to do yourself.
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"It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?"
That's what I'm looking for.
Can I in theory flash any TW ROM without risk of bricking, or am I actually limited to those confirmed. And follow up, how up to date is the confirmed list?
I can see all the information, I can do all the research, the problem is none of the information is dated, I read something about not overwriting stock rom slot, then I read something about doing it, and when nothing is dated for edits just the date of the original post shown, I don't know which piece of information is relevant and which piece to ignore.
If that list was dated and it was dated recently, I wouldn't have asked, I would have trusted it as an up to date list. But what if that list is 2 months old and there other roms now that are more relevant.

failedjedi said:
"It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?"
That's what I'm looking for.
Can I in theory flash any TW ROM without risk of bricking, or am I actually limited to those confirmed. And follow up, how up to date is the confirmed list?
I can see all the information, I can do all the research, the problem is none of the information is dated, I read something about not overwriting stock rom slot, then I read something about doing it, and when nothing is dated for edits just the date of the original post shown, I don't know which piece of information is relevant and which piece to ignore.
If that list was dated and it was dated recently, I wouldn't have asked, I would have trusted it as an up to date list. But what if that list is 2 months old and there other roms now that are more relevant.
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This is probably the best answer you are going to get (though others might be able to help you). The thread states to only use 4.22 TW ROMs. That means, that in theory, any 4.22 TW based ROM should work. However, if the ROM isn't specifically listed in that thread, it is your own risk to try it. There is always risk. No one can guarantee anything even if it somehow worked for them them. So if you try a ROM that is not in the list, you are taking a risk. There is no other way to put it. If you want to know about a specific ROM not on the list, and it meets the requirements, you will need to search the ROMs development thread to see if it is mentioned as working with SafeStrap and if it hasn't been mentioned, then ask in that specific thread. The information in the SafeStrap thread's OP is generally current but it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on. It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it. It you choose to do something different than what the OP states, it is your risk. Good luck.

scott14719 said:
This is probably the best answer you are going to get (though others might be able to help you). The thread states to only use 4.22 TW ROMs. That means, that in theory, any 4.22 TW based ROM should work. However, if the ROM isn't specifically listed in that thread, it is your own risk to try it. There is always risk. No one can guarantee anything even if it somehow worked for them them. So if you try a ROM that is not in the list, you are taking a risk. There is no other way to put it. If you want to know about a specific ROM not on the list, and it meets the requirements, you will need to search the ROMs development thread to see if it is mentioned as working with SafeStrap and if it hasn't been mentioned, then ask in that specific thread. The information in the SafeStrap thread's OP is generally current but it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on. It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it. It you choose to do something different than what the OP states, it is your risk. Good luck.
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"it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on"
"It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it."
This is my issue with the snarky comments here. You have been helpful, but all over there are snarky comments all with similar statements.
Make sure you read it, but don't trust what you read, make sure you spend 4 hours reading a 100+ page forum before you ask a simple question, I have seen simple yes/no questions answered with paragraph responses bashing OP for not reading.
Now in my case the 3 main posts that people should read to do this, if they were dated I would have been fine.
Again, not anyone here specifically for the most part, but XDA in general is full of this superiority attitude.

failedjedi said:
"it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on"
"It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it."
This is my issue with the snarky comments here. You have been helpful, but all over there are snarky comments all with similar statements.
Make sure you read it, but don't trust what you read, make sure you spend 4 hours reading a 100+ page forum before you ask a simple question, I have seen simple yes/no questions answered with paragraph responses bashing OP for not reading.
Now in my case the 3 main posts that people should read to do this, if they were dated I would have been fine.
Again, not anyone here specifically for the most part, but XDA in general is full of this superiority attitude.
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It's not a "superiority" attitude as you put it, it is the RULES. You are expected to read as much as you need to to learn. If that means 1 day or 100 days, it's up to you. This is a development forum and not a "tutorial site. People are very helpful if you at least try to help yourself first. I told you, there is no "easy" answer for what you ask. You HAVE to try the ROMs for yourself if you want to risk it. Expecting someone else to do it so they can run back and give you the answer after they took the risk is a "superiority" attitude. I also told you,DO WHAT THE OP STATES! Anything else is your risk. Why is that hard to understand? Anything you try that is not stated in the OP is untried, unproven, and risky. It's that simple.

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It's not a "superiority" attitude as you put it, it is the RULES. You are expected to read as much as you need to to learn. If that means 1 day or 100 days, it's up to you. This is a development forum and not a "tutorial site. People are very helpful if you at least try to help yourself first. I told you, there is no "easy" answer for what you ask. You HAVE to try the ROMs for yourself if you want to risk it. Expecting someone else to do it so they can run back and give you the answer after they took the risk is a "superiority" attitude. I also told you,DO WHAT THE OP STATES! Anything else is your risk. Why is that hard to understand? Anything you try that is not stated in the OP is untried, unproven, and risky. It's that simple.
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I asked for clarification on conflicting information.
It's not hard to understand do what OP says. It's the fact that in 2 sentences you said both to read EVERYTHING for information, then insist on only getting viable information from OP, which is it?
I tried to only follow OP but saw conflicting info so asked for clarification, then get told to read everything. Then get told don't trust what I read only follow what OP says. When there are 3 different "must read" posts, by 3 different authors and they are conflicting what the f*** is anyone supposed to do.
You are the one that makes seem like I'm asking to be guided through baby steps. I didn't. I asked if all TW roms should in theory work, a simple yes, or as you finally did say in theory they should, would have sufficed. Just a simple clarification, instead you are the one putting more work into the issue. That could have ended it right there, instead you keep posting more contradictory statements.
I read, I figured out all the steps I needed to take, some stuff was worded odd, or had conflicting info and I just wanted clarification on what was still relevant. God forbid someone have to say yes or no to a few questions to save others the time of reading hundreds of pages stuff that is out of date.

Hey Mod this is going know where.
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Installed a custom KERNEL but it broke my phone (or I did something wrong) .

I really need help, my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge has just got a red screen since i installed a Kernel and i cant use my phone at all.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
The Kernel I uses was Super Kernel and I also had the Super Man ROM
Thanks A Lot Guys

Just flash stock boot.img from TWRP recovery and you will be fine if you cant get into recovery go to download mode and flash stock firmware with odin
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Why did you flash a kernel? Do you know what a kernel is, and what is does? Do you know how to recover in case things go wrong? Nope, so you should probably do some reading before you decide to modify anything next time.

You probably flashed the "Flat" kernel. Download the Edge kernel and install it.
I always do a nandroid,and back up recovery and boot via Flashify.
Your phone will live.
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J.Biden said:
Why did you flash a kernel? Do you know what a kernel is, and what is does? Do you know how to recover in case things go wrong? Nope, so you should probably do some reading before you decide to modify anything next time.
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he asked for help not a lecture.

simonhcai said:
he asked for help not a lecture.
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He still needs to do his research and tons of reading
"And on that bombshell!"
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simonhcai said:
he asked for help not a lecture.
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Do you really think that people are lining up here to help people that have not read a single guide or anything? Do you think people are getting paid helping around here? I'm not giving him a lecture, but it's expected that you know what the F you're doing before doing anything. You must be new around here.

J.Biden said:
Do you really think that people are lining up here to help people that have not read a single guide or anything? Do you think people are getting paid helping around here? I'm not giving him a lecture, but it's expected that you know what the F you're doing before doing anything. You must be new around here.
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How do you know he hasnt read a single thing?everyone's a noob at some point and if hes made a genuine mistake then maybe asking for help from people who could stop him from ruining his phone which he might have a long contract on,if you know how to help him the time you spent replying you maybe could of solved this problem for him.

simonhcai said:
How do you know he hasnt read a single thing?everyone's a noob at some point and if hes made a genuine mistake then maybe asking for help from people who could stop him from ruining his phone which he might have a long contract on,if you know how to help him the time you spent replying you maybe could of solved this problem for him.
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He would know how to recover from this if he had done some proper reading. If he isn't even aware what a kernel is, or how to recover, he hasn't been reading, has he? The solution is not to first flash, fail, and then ask questions. Read, read and read, then flash and succeed.
TL;DR: Read.

J.Biden said:
He would know how to recover from this if he had done some proper reading. If he isn't even aware what a kernel is, or how to recover, he hasn't been reading, has he? The solution is not to first flash, fail, and then ask questions. Read, read and read, then flash and succeed.
TL;DR: Read.
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Basically sums up XDA. Also don't like people who go on spamming "HALP" without posting a logcat (or a last_ksmg in case of kernels) or any other info that could possibly help identify the issue and expecting devs to magically help them. People really need to read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
Although I would like to add that sometimes it's not totally the user's fault, as many kernel threads don't really provide any information regarding the behavior of the kernel in certain conditions, or the OP of the thread does a poor job at explaining which files to grab or how to flash and whether to wipe any cache partitions (or whatever the post-flash requirements are) or the requirements of the kernel. For example, I installed jesse's kernel and it caused my phone to fail verification on bootup, even when I had dm-verity disabled. Now, people should read the thread before flashing, because there's a possibility that someone else had a certain issue that you may face upon installation, but I feel the OPs should have a section called "Common/Rare Issues" in the thread where user-verified solutions to common/rare problems found when flashing the OP's kernel/ROM are available, so you don't have to search hundreds of pages to find a fix. If you look at the threads of some popular ROMs/kernels, they have one, for the same reason. In my case, I was the first one to face it, so I had to figure out on my own why it happened and find my own fix, that took me a couple of hours. But having such a section saves you time, which is helpful regardless of whether you're capable of identifying the cause of a problem and fixing it yourself or not. I have a "Common problems" section in my app's descriptions for the same reason, because I like to think from the user's perspective as well, plus I don't want my users to be spamming my inbox asking for fixes to common problems, it's more efficient to have a FAQ.
But yeah, READ, UNDERSTAND, LEARN, instead of just expecting people to magically help you with your problems.

Hello !
1. Download Samsung-smart-switch.
2. Install it and run it.
3. Choose more on Top of program and choose the first Part of the menu (intialize software...or so)
4. Follow the instructions on screen and voila .....
YOUR PHONE IS BACK WITH ALL ON STOCK
Hope it helps you

[MODS & FIXES] G955U/G955U1 SamPWND List

This is an effort to consolidate fixes, tweaks and mods specific to the rooted G955U/G955U1 SnapDragon S8+ via SamPWND.
The initial release of root for this version by the development, contributions and tireless efforts from elliwigy, Harry44, akiraO1, BotsOne, GSMCHEN and jrkruse are obviously being enjoyed by many, as is evident by the visits to elliwigy's release page.
Unfortunately, that thread is in dire need of clean-up because it has become a hodgepodge of redundant rooting questions, helpful answer posts (and complaints), all infused with a few mods and tweaks mentioned.
So let's share what can be done (and what cannot thus far) with this rooted version.
Please (!!!), already be aware of which device you have, and if SamPWND works on your device. "How do / Can I root my..." questions simply don't belong here!
Let's try to keep it clean in here by looking around the forum first before posting, but also by being helpful and not condescending to those of us enjoying root who are perhaps not as knowledgeable about such matters as others.

Some of the most common questions being asked, and their answers from that thread
Flashfire infinitely spinning for part 2 root steps
Turn on airplane mode
Is there a fix for the 80% battery max capacity?
No, and it seems unlikely at this stage. Make yourself happy and hide your battery percentage.
Green/glitchy screen
Most (including myself) have resolved or heavily mitigated this via the AQI1 fw posted recently.
S8+: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...sampwnd-root-green-screen-corruption-t3673810
S8: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ampwnd-green-screen-corruption-fixed-t3673782
Does Magisk work with this root?
No.
Does Xposed work on this root?
Unofficially yes, search for unofficial Xposed s8, it will be in the device forums. Edit-or use this link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/unofficial-xposed-guide-snapdragon-s8-t3663728
Can I install custom roms?
No, the BL is still locked. The last I read is there are some ideas around how we might achieve an unlock, but nothing so far. There's is the modified stock rom available in the OP of the root thread that provides csc and superSU but beyond that, no.
Screen rotation is messed up / reversed
You downloaded the wrong step 1 files. Try again for your device (plus or non-plus)
I can't think of any other recurring questions, but I've been keeping up to date on that post for more of the 318-or-so pages, and there's a lot of other useful information held within them. Worth a read.

Awesome first response!
So can I start with this:
"Unofficial Xposed'...
Where are the where's & how's located for our specific device, along with the yeahs & no's about what Xposed can do? I've looked and read, but there really is no clear post (that I have found) saying that our model can (or can't) DL Xposed and make things work.
Out of level 8, I'm probably a level 2 coming from rooting back in the days of the first Droid LOL! So I figure if we can keep things down to a level 3 or 4 here, we can learn and teach about WHY certain things won't work.
I'm also very interested in the capabilities of our camera. I used to use chdk to hack Cannon P&S cameras, and despite all my hours doing so, the hardware could never deliver night shots like this phone!

AddictedToGlass said:
Awesome first response!
So can I start with this:
"Unofficial Xposed'...
Where are the where's & how's located for our specific device, along with the yeahs & no's about what Xposed can do? I've looked and read, but there really is no clear post (that I have found) saying that our model can (or can't) DL Xposed and make things work.
Out of level 8, I'm probably a level 2 coming from rooting back in the days of the first Droid LOL! So I figure if we can keep things down to a level 3 or 4 here, we can learn and teach about WHY certain things won't work.
I'm also very interested in the capabilities of our camera. I used to use chdk to hack Cannon P&S cameras, and despite all my hours doing so, the hardware could never deliver night shots like this phone!
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You may have read my post just before I edited it to add the links. The link I posted for the s8 is where all if the Xposed info is held for our devices. I am currently running it with the latest fw I also linked to with no problems. That thread also contains a few modules the OP has verified working. I am currently only using it for a couple of tweaks from "all my.." and xVoice++. I also was utilizing this Xposed version before flashing the fw mentioned, and it's worked perfectly for both. I can't remember which fw I was on previously though.
regarding camera mods, I made an attempt the moment I got the phone to replace the stock camera with a ported pixel, before researching how to do it properly these days. Wound up with crashing camera warnings every 30 seconds and my backup wouldn't restore properly in titanium and had to reset completely and start fresh.
I used to root back in the Motorola Droid (original) days, when root required 30-or-so lines of commands, I'm sure you remember funny how we've come full circle. I swapped to iPhone for the iPhone 4, enjoyed a bootrom exploit for several iOS versions, and stuck with apple up until just last weekend so it's been a while since I've been on the root scene myself, much has changed indeed. It's the first Android device (S8+ here) that actually made me want to switch away from apple, and I don't yet regret it.

nice concept.. just a forewarning tho, these posts typically go in general discussion..

elliwigy said:
nice concept.. just a forewarning tho, these posts typically go in general discussion..
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Thanks! And it's alright if it gets moved there so long as it still helps everyone out and you wizards walk through once in a while to bless us all with a bit of wisdom. LOL!
Meanwhile, for as long as it's allowed to stay here, it might serve well to keep distractions off your release thread.

elliwigy said:
nice concept.. just a forewarning tho, these posts typically go in general discussion..
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Considering less than one hour after I replied with the common questions and answers, someone asked about flashfire on page like 318 again, I'm sure this post is pretty low on priority for the people who tend to ask the questions.

I just finished rooting my sprint s8+ with sampwned. I installed my 256gb micro sdcard and I get the kernel panic reboot to error screen. Am I unable to use the sdcard? I'm scouring xda for any info. Just looking for a little help if anyone knows anything I don't. Thanks.

Nice idea OP.
Some fixes may be had by using the @partcyborg ROM for S8. It is in the S8 ROMs, Kernels, ... Forum https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/root-partcyborgrom-aqi6-deodexed-t3702988
For the S8+ @jrkruse has some good info in the S8+ Verizon, ROMs, Kernels, ... Forum. https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s8+/development

monroe0328 said:
I just finished rooting my sprint s8+ with sampwned. I installed my 256gb micro sdcard and I get the kernel panic reboot to error screen. Am I unable to use the sdcard? I'm scouring xda for any info. Just looking for a little help if anyone knows anything I don't. Thanks.
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i think u pmd me but flashing a newer combo boot.img fixes it.. its a known issue with samsungs older combo firmwares, not related to root

elliwigy said:
i think u pmd me but flashing a newer combo boot.img fixes it.. its a known issue with samsungs older combo firmwares, not related to root
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Yea thats what I did. Problem solved.

Just want to add that the Official xposed app and framework, work on this device
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