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Hello guys!
I am a Nexus 5 user, would you recommend me to swap it for a LG G2?
I am looking for superior graphical performance / Smoothness, with Nexus 5 I get at max 34k on antutu.
I know that LG G2 has better battery life, camera and screen.
I will be trying different ROMs and kernels as I hate the crappy UI and should further improve performance.
Does it support ART and would it be as effective?
Have a nice day everyone!
sadinoide said:
Hello guys!
I am a Nexus 5 user, would you recommend me to swap it for a LG G2?
I am looking for superior graphical performance / Smoothness, with Nexus 5 I get at max 34k on antutu.
I know that LG G2 has better battery life, camera and screen.
I will be trying different ROMs and kernels as I hate the crappy UI and should further improve performance.
Does it support ART and would it be as effective?
Have a nice day everyone!
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It doesn't seem like the G2 will have ART in its upcoming KitKat update.
You have to ask yourself which kind of performance you want - is it benchmark performance (which IMO is useless) or is it real life usage? The stock LG UI works great and is indeed very smooth, but since the LG G2 and the Nexus 5 are very similar in terms of hardware, I doubt you will find any of those phones superior to each other
TL;DR - Upgrading to a G2 would give you better battery life, camera and maybe screen.
Thanks for the prompt reply
vPro97 said:
It doesn't seem like the G2 will have ART in its upcoming KitKat update.
You have to ask yourself which kind of performance you want - is it benchmark performance (which IMO is useless) or is it real life usage? The stock LG UI works great and is indeed very smooth, but since the LG G2 and the Nexus 5 are very similar in terms of hardware, I doubt you will find any of those phones superior to each other
TL;DR - Upgrading to a G2 would give you better battery life, camera and maybe screen.
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Does it have any overheating issues? They do have very similar specs.
so benchmarks don't reflect on day to day performance?
Whenever I activate ART it seems to cut back on alot of the Play store lag, is that existent in the lg g2?
sadinoide said:
Does it have any overheating issues? They do have very similar specs.
so benchmarks don't reflect on day to day performance?
Whenever I activate ART it seems to cut back on alot of the Play store lag, is that existent in the lg g2?
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There is no overheating issues if you don't mess with thermal throttling. The device will get "slower" in benchmarks when it's hot, but it still has a lot of processing power.
No, benchmarks do not really reflect day to day performance, the device is indeed smooth whether you score 29k on antutu or 36k.
LG G2 is still using 4.2.2 and that has no ART. It doesn't seem like it will be getting ART in the upcoming update to KitKat. At least for me, Play Store launches with just a milisecond delay. If that bothers you, stick to you N5.
Another thing, before you jump on the LG boat - LG is usually really slow with their updates. Last years flagship LG Optimus G is still running Jelly Bean 4.1.2 - not that it ain't smooth, but if you like to stay up to date then keep your N5 or flash custom roms on your G2.
I hope this helps
vPro
vPro97 said:
There is no overheating issues if you don't mess with thermal throttling. The device will get "slower" in benchmarks when it's hot, but it still has a lot of processing power.
No, benchmarks do not really reflect day to day performance, the device is indeed smooth whether you score 29k on antutu or 36k.
LG G2 is still using 4.2.2 and that has no ART. It doesn't seem like it will be getting ART in the upcoming update to KitKat. At least for me, Play Store launches with just a milisecond delay. If that bothers you, stick to you N5.
Another thing, before you jump on the LG boat - LG is usually really slow with their updates. Last years flagship LG Optimus G is still running Jelly Bean 4.1.2 - not that it ain't smooth, but if you like to stay up to date then keep your N5 or flash custom roms on your G2.
I hope this helps
vPro
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Thank you very much for clearing this up!
I have used a lot of modern smartphones and none were as smooth as the Nexus 5. it is very apparent while scrolling in the FB app or the Play store.
Using ART it is close to perfect, I want to know if I will be the experiencing the same performance on the LG G2, are you currently using a tweaked out Rom? are you experiencing any scroll lag?
Sorry to have bothered you, you have been very helpful, Have a nice day!
Hello all,
I've recently bought a LG G2 (D802). I've seen that there are a few ROMs which have been adapted from the G3 model to the G2: Cloudy G3, Optimus G3 and Lam Hoang G3. I have had a look to this last one and there are still some issues with the ROM.
I wonder whether it's really worth it to install one of these ROMs or it would be enough just installing G2 Exposed and changing the theme to look like the G3 one?
Obviously there are some other differences like some new applications. However since they are both based on Android 4.4.2 I don't see how much difference there could be if I use Xposed.
Here are some of the pros and cons I can see:
G3 ROMs over stock:
Camera
Keyboard
UI (G2 can be adapted to look almost the same as G3 (Tweaks box + G3 theme) though)
Less bloatware as custom ROMs get rid of them in most cases
Smart notice (is it good?)
G2 stock over G3 ROMs:
Most stable software
Less risk of virus in your phone (if you install a custom ROM you don't really know if the person who built it put some spyware in it)
Official updates (I guess official G3 ROMs won't get official updates)
Are there any new applications/features apart from above which make worth it installing these ROMs? Maybe performance benefits?
*This is not a thread to discuss whether it's good or not making custom ROMs. In fact, I want to say thanks to all those developers who spend hours trying to bring something better to our phones.
Thanks,
Javier
I too am interested in hearing responses to this. I previously came from a galaxy s3 (d2spr) and I thought many roms were worth installing on that device as many actually improved either functionality, battery life, or performance. But with my g2, I'm really content with the stock kk. I've heard the camera on the g3 roms is pretty awesome, but I've also heard of issues with hdr not working. Can't wait to hear responses.
I'm on stock, rooted rom, g2 tweaksbox, g3 theme and the camera tweak which adds some features.
It's a great way to go, everything works like a charm.
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You won't find a single rom that doesn't have someone complaining of issues. So far though CloudyG3 1.2 has been exceptionally stable and pretty much fully functional. Even stock has its quirks in terms of issues.
I use Cloudy G3 1.2, and after a few tweaks, it runs pretty damn smooth. I like it over stock!
Using OptimusG3 and everything is smooth as butter!
I like to add one more candidate for a G3 rom: lamhoang G3 FINAL
https://translate.googleusercontent....4358/&usg=ALkJrhiaba6cK0mY2Vsbrcc3aGQFUPvzdg
The 1st fully deodexed art compatible rom, its very snappy and i find it the best of the G3 ports so far.
I think lamhoang rom eats battery very much
yken said:
I think lamhoang rom eats battery very much
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No, i getting excellent battery life on the Lamhong roms.
8+ hours screen on my 802 and 6+ hours on the 320k
OptimusG3 V1.2
Hi,
I'm running OptimusG3 v1.2. In the beginning tried CloudyG3.
I started experimenting with G3 ROMs since it's G3 has nicer interface than G2 ROMs. It has G3 camera and keyboard. It has also G2 FM Radio apk. CloudG3 has G3 FM radio apk that crashes.
Overall good ROM but battery live could be better when you use it, In stand by is OK.
I tried the G3 rom for a few days but ultimately went back to stock rooted. The flatter, minimal theme of the G3 looks great, but that was about it. I have the VS980 which isn't fully supported for the G3 rom (yet) so I had minor data/mms issues and poorer battery life. Plus, I think the camera on the G3 is a downgrade compared to the G2 - less features/options, and pictures seemed to look a little worse.
For now, I use Nova with a G3 theme, and G2 Xposed/Tweakbox to mimic some other aspects of the interface (notification toggles, status bar tint, etc)
I'm running CloudyG3 and i'm really enjoying it so far, the new 1.2 update added all the missing things so now im super happy
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javism1 said:
Hello all,
G2 stock over G3 ROMs:
Most stable software
Depends. Roms can be built from modded stock roms. It could be argued that removing bloat will result in a more stable rom.
Less risk of virus in your phone (if you install a custom ROM you don't really know if the person who built put some spyware in it)
Well, we KNOW of carriers that add spyware to our phones. Also, many devs post their source, so there's that...
Official updates (I guess official G3 ROMs won't get official updates)
Does this even matter when you can just update the custom ROM? You want the latest carrier update that bad, you'd only have to wait a couple hours.
G2 can be adapted to look almost the same as G3 (Tweaks box + G3 theme)
This is more a lack of a con than a plus.
Are there any new applications/features apart from above which make worth it installing these ROMs? Maybe performance benefits?
Thanks,
Javier
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See above
lastdeadmouse said:
See above
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I've changed on the description that last point
javism1 said:
G3 ROMs over stock:
Camera
Keyboard
UI (G2 can be adapted to look almost the same as G3 (Tweaks box + G3 theme) though)
Less bloatware as custom ROMs get rid of them in most cases
Smart notice (is it good?)
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For Camera, you can install xdabbeb's camera. I read a couple of days ago that there will be an update and that his camera will be available in apk.
For the Keyboard, you can install the LG G3 keyboard as an apk http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793602
Mobius360 said:
I'm on stock, rooted rom, g2 tweaksbox, g3 theme and the camera tweak which adds some features.
It's a great way to go, everything works like a charm.
Sent from my LG-D801
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Does the camera launch directly from the volume down button when using the shortcut?
I mean does it turn the screen on too, so you can snap a picture?
icoman said:
Does the camera launch directly from the volume down button when using the shortcut?
I mean does it turn the screen on too, so you can snap a picture?
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Yes it does. Just tried it.
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i love the G3 rom im on cloudys g3 rom
On cloudys g3 rom been playing with settings and tweaks past few days and now I've found prefect balance of battery vs performance no bugs or complaints couple sods but kernel related and now fixed and other minor bugs I can work around till fixed great daily driver love the ui and phone is super snappy
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Danzano said:
On cloudys g3 rom been playing with settings and tweaks past few days and now I've found prefect balance of battery vs performance no bugs or complaints couple sods but kernel related and now fixed and other minor bugs I can work around till fixed great daily driver love the ui and phone is super snappy
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my eyes hurt... ever heard of punctuation?
i think lg did a good job with g3 stock but apart from the interface which looks more flat, you don't get too much over stock g2.
Hi everyone,
i'm thinking about buying a LG G2, i've read many topics about it but i still have some questions:
currently i have a galaxy S3 with a rooted stock room, and using powersaving mode and greenify to reduce battery usage
i am attracted by the G2 because of its specs and battery life, but it seems to have a lot of problems with kitkat update... ?
I didn't find any stock kitkat rom for G2 without bug, am i right ?
how about the cloudyG3 rom ? I don't want to flash and test many roms, in fact i just would like an updated rom with acceptable features and a very good battery life,
So i need your help my friends
thanks in advance
arya444 said:
Hi everyone,
i'm thinking about buying a LG G2, i've read many topics about it but i still have some questions:
currently i have a galaxy S3 with a rooted stock room, and using powersaving mode and greenify to reduce battery usage
i am attracted by the G2 because of its specs and battery life, but it seems to have a lot of problems with kitkat update... ?
I didn't find any stock kitkat rom for G2 without bug, am i right ?
how about the cloudyG3 rom ? I don't want to flash and test many roms, in fact i just would like an updated rom with acceptable features and a very good battery life,
So i need your help my friends
thanks in advance
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I don't know if there has been that many problems with KitKat and G2. The one that has affected me was the sound bug - hissing and weird noices when using headphones. That bug wasn't noticable to most users - it seemed to only affect or being noticed by them that used certain headphones (in my case AKG K551). The irritating thing with that one was that LG didn't seem to be able to fix it. They released new versions that made it a bit better but not good so to speak. I switched to using custom ROMs and Kernels because of it and got rid of the problem that way.
There are some very good ROMs out here. I've tried Cloudy Stock, Cloudy Flex and Pardus HD sensation and they were all good. I kind of liked Cludy Flex and Pardus HD Sensation best because they use a black color background to the screens. I've also tried both Cloudy and Optimus G3 ROMS, but my thought is that they are made for a different set of hardware and needs to be ported to G2 and that makes them a bit more suspicious to having bugs. so if you don't desperately want the G3 interface I would stick to one that is more specific to G2. I'm sure some one else will ha another opinion.
I've used Dorimanx's kernel more or less all the time. No sound bug there!
The G2 is a great phone with fantastic battery time - I truly recommend it!
thanks for your reply,
how about the battery life ? did you see any improvement with those custom roms ?
and finnaly how can i find the last and the best stock rom ? (i am afraid about the sound bug and the battery drain)
thanks a lot
I'm not sure were you got the problem with battery drain from. The battery time is great on the G2 (compared to most other phones). I can't say that I've noticed any differences in that aspect between the different ROMs. It's more a matter of what you choose to activate on your phone(as usual). High performance location service, WIFI, Google Now etc. So the more you activate the faster the battery will run out. The custom ROM:s also allow the use of tuning between performance and battery time.
If you want the most stock like experience I suggest using Clody Stock or Pardus Classic ROM. Both can be combined with the Dorimanx kernel.
G2 plus Cloudy's G3 rom has been amazing. Throw in G3 tweakbox and hold on!
thanks i will try it,
have you seen any bugs or battery drain with those roms ?
U can grab the whole info here :-
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g2-5543.php
If you want to keep the mst stable and stock possible debloated with perfect battery life, then sotmax 9+ stock rom is the perfect choice combined with bruce kernel
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No real KitKat problems here. Take a look at the specs, view some reviews on youtube and choose it... or not.
If you trust an guy who says "Flash a G3 rom" then buy a G3... But get a phone just for to use a ported ROM doesnt makes any sense to me. Even tho "G3 roms are best" isnt even a valid reason, read thru the G3 port threads and see the bugs etc. I prefer to use a Stock based ROM (Bruce, pardus or even pure stock rooted) and read into the threads (we all have done it - even me, i have my G2 for around 5-6 months now and i finally found my prefered ROM > BruceROM with his own kernel, so it might take some time to find your prefered ROM because there are plenty of choices, but if you are stock lover, just try the stock ones). With ported ROM's you always take the risk of bugs and the current builds are bugged, believe it or not. LG did a GREAT job on stock and 20F is almost perfect (at least for me). If you're a AOSP lover, there are good choices aswell, but i highly prefer a Nexus device if you are a hardcore AOSP user tho.
And dont take arguments like "G3 Roms are best because of UI" too serious, because i dont choose a Phone cuz of its UI...
Thanks everybody for your advices, @kewkie: thank you specially, that's exactly what i was looking for, i will look for the 20F,
in fact i would prefer the nexus 5, but the 3000mAh battery of the G2 makes me prefer the G2
Hi everybody. I was planning to replace my Nexsu 4 with an LG G2, and since I really like the pure android I will be (probably!) flashing CM on it. Now I am new to this world so please be gentle with me I want to know a few things:
1) Is the UI on LG G2 sluggish and slow? especially after installing apps?
2) Is the stable version of CM for LG G2 (I guess it is CM12 right now) bug free? (I have heard stories about battery drain and stuff with CM12).
3) Is the stock Lollipop stable? Do you recommend I upgrade OTA from KK to LP?
Thanks!
I came from Nexus 4 to G2 6 months ago.
1) LG UI is fast on 4.4.2, and about 20% slower (MY opinion) on 5.0.2 because 5.0.2 sucks :/ (5.0.2 was slow on my old Nexus 4)
2) CM is not 100% stable, if i recall correctly there are minor bugs that occur from time to time, lag in Google Play Music, DT2W works a bit worse than LG roms, also Camera is a bit worse than LG rom
3) Stock Lollipop is stable, you can OTA if your network carrier has the update (if not you will have to use LG PC Suite or flash KDZ image)
If you REALLY need stock Android you should get Nexus 5. I chose G2 because I was so mad after having Nexus 4 camera and audio playback quality, i simply refused to get Nexus 5. G2 has amazing sound (HD sound driver) especially if you have 50EUR+ headphones and a great camera
Also its questionable when and will G2 get official 5.1.1 or 6.0, the G3 only 2-3 weeks ago got 5.1.1
Thanks a lot! You answered all my question. Let me ask you a few more since you are the right person First of all, my Nexus 4 is amazing and works perfectly. My only complain (just like you) would be the camera (I only listen to audiobooks, so audio quality is not really an issue for me). Also I thought the battery on the G2 is above average (correct me if I am wrong).
1) How would you compare the G2 UI (4.4.2) with Nexus 4 (on 5.1.1)? Is it the same speed or you feel a lag?
2) When you say camera on CM12 is not as good as stock rom, do you mean the camera features? cause I know that the G2 camera has many features. Or you mean like the image quality with the same settings on the stock is better that CM?
3) In general, if you would choose again, now that you know how is the quality of Nexus 5, would you choose it against G2?
I was thinking of getting the N5 too, but the camera and the battery life on the G2 are tempting honestly. I am ok with 4.4.2 and I will stay on that if I think it performs better than 5.0.2. I think I will avoid CM though since I am afraid the headache does not worth it for me.
UI of G2 is not slow, it is pretty fast also on Lollipop. Only issue with official lollipop is memory leak.. You have to restart your device every day or you will suffer from launcher redraws.
Battery life on CM is worse than on stock. Also quality of photos is lower + G2 doesnt support Camera2 API so you don't have any advanced camera features on CM.
LG G2 offers GREAT performance for price, it has much better hardware than Nexus 5 but I still prefer Nexus 5 because of the software.
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Thanks a lot! You answered all my question. Let me ask you a few more since you are the right person First of all, my Nexus 4 is amazing and works perfectly. My only complain (just like you) would be the camera (I only listen to audiobooks, so audio quality is not really an issue for me). Also I thought the battery on the G2 is above average (correct me if I am wrong).
1) How would you compare the G2 UI (4.4.2) with Nexus 4 (on 5.1.1)? Is it the same speed or you feel a lag?
2) When you say camera on CM12 is not as good as stock rom, do you mean the camera features? cause I know that the G2 camera has many features. Or you mean like the image quality with the same settings on the stock is better that CM?
3) In general, if you would choose again, now that you know how is the quality of Nexus 5, would you choose it against G2?
I was thinking of getting the N5 too, but the camera and the battery life on the G2 are tempting honestly. I am ok with 4.4.2 and I will stay on that if I think it performs better than 5.0.2. I think I will avoid CM though since I am afraid the headache does not worth it for me.
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1) G2 UI (4.4.2) is as fast as Nexus 4 on 5.1.1. However, G2 UI at 4.4.2 has no material design. You can check it on youtube
2) The latest CM12.1 (not CM12) has a better camera, but yeah less features, and the pics are sometimes blurry (15% chance).
3) Ahh, I don't know, i really want 6.0 from Nexus 5, but N5 has a worse screen, only 2300mah, 8mp camera......i would get a G2, but this time in black color
Thank you guys! I will keep an eye on both G2 and N5. If G2 gets the update to 5.1.1 or 6.0 I will definitely go for it. If not, I have to decide which one to go, G2 or N5.
hey i wanna buy phone used from person who can sell phone g2. still worrh? lg has my first phone from lg brand. how battery life after 3years or two, i dont know what years the person gives. my opinion battery lasts throught day of heavy usage? i mean brightness over 70% and wifi or mobile data always on...help my choice. or sony z? i dont known
Get tha G2 , xperia Z is worse at performance ,display, battery, pretty much everything
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Get tha G2 , xperia Z is worse at performance ,display, battery, pretty much everything
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but out of box still 7gb free. i mean 16gb version
Well if you can live with 32 gb, change battery with a non oem, and use lollipop version, (if you care for good photos), then go for it.
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what ??? i can live with 16gb but my music cant hold up 10,8GB BECAUSE MY MUSIC HOLD 10,8GB ON PHONE SAYS FREE SPACE JUST 8-7GB with non download apps, i downloaded apps snapchat fb,and fb msngr, when i buy G2
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my g2's still gong strong. as a hand me down the mother in law loves it and wont be parted even for the g3 we have as she doesnt like the feel in hand and prefers the g2. its still performing strong.
OK, never flash a custom rom, always unstable and you need to change roms every 3-4 roms which is a pain.
Never download fb and messenger, download the lite versions.
If you're so old that you still download music, get a phone with sd card slot.
For me, custom ROM actually gives me way better smoothness, specifically I can vouch for AICP 7.1.2(AOSP was meh).
It's just much more smooth.
I just cant ever imagine going back to stock rom kitkat/lollipop even the debloated ones, all the small details and functions have been implemented well in AICP 7.1.2..
Surprisingly some apps dont work well with stock kk or L, once I got AICP 7.1.2 ,its back on track.